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release month announced!

new trailer!

other shit!

"11/10 - this game will own"!

deserves own thread!

now yall xboxers can play too!

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 12 May 2011 02:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYh8phZ4Dvw

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 12 May 2011 02:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

kinda all over this, hope they didn't decide to be like "OH YOU LIKE IT HARD HUH WE'LL MAKE IT EXXXXXXXXXXXXTRA HARD" and now it sucks

beefaroni merchant, part-time fish tank bitch. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 May 2011 04:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think that is a distinct possibility given From's spotty overall track record but as good as Demon's Souls was there is zero chance of me not getting this game day one

you penis-curling she-devils (jamescobo), Thursday, 12 May 2011 07:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

I only just noticced this is from software -- good to know that they have another great game that they can make progressively shitter over iterations for the next 10-15 years #armoredcore

Alderaan Duran (Will M.), Thursday, 12 May 2011 08:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

that said i was supremely jailhouse of my ps3 owning friends and now i can get a demon souls-ish game, NOW ALL I NEED IS VALKYRIA CHRONICLES!!!

Alderaan Duran (Will M.), Thursday, 12 May 2011 08:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://www.destructoid.com/preview-dark-souls-200954.phtml

gddmn

oct 11th app

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 12 May 2011 23:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

makes it sound like it's a "more of the same" sequel that takes into account the fact that you've played the first one and ramps up accordingly, more diverse color palette, more of the same but a lot more
i'm down with that IF THE PUZZLE CHOICES ARE GOOD AND FAIR because if this has enough cheap hits that i notice it, it is not demon souls
i don't mind dying if the game is honest.

beefaroni merchant, part-time fish tank bitch. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 May 2011 23:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

i think the fact that it's open world - continuous, varied, full of secret shit to stumble upon - is a big change tbh, and i am psyched about it. i didn't want to hear about them fucking with the actual controls, combat mechanics, etc because all of that was gold in the first game, so i am doubly psyched about that. and a spit polish on the visuals is just gravy.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 12 May 2011 23:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

somehow i missed the open world mechanics; not sure how that'll work, but willing to try
i need to just not work and only play games

beefaroni merchant, part-time fish tank bitch. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 May 2011 23:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

awwwwwesome new trailer at http://www.fromsoftware.jp/darksouls/contents/movie3_en.html

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 3 June 2011 12:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://i54.tinypic.com/25ezpzo.png

forks, pls update thread title to show correct release month "octover"

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 3 June 2011 12:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

gracias

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 3 June 2011 14:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

YOU WILL REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE AND FUN OF TRIAL AND ERROR

http://www.fromsoftware.jp/darksouls/contents/img/outline/img_outline_en.gif

YOU WILL ALSO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO ROLE-PLAY MUTUALLY IN THE GAME

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

i welcome these opportunities

I'm a nerd and nerdy things happened (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 August 2011 04:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

I am going to buy this video game

nh (cozen), Thursday, 4 August 2011 06:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

i already did.

I'm a nerd and nerdy things happened (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 August 2011 14:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

owned

I AM JOHN MAUS (Lamp), Thursday, 4 August 2011 14:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Deprived! Hardcorest of the hardcore!

I'm a nerd and nerdy things happened (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 12:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yopt1hJtzQU

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 16 September 2011 01:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

really looking forward to disappearing into this.

A Fudgesicle is a frozen, ice cream-like snack. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 September 2011 12:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeh i've been on complete media blackout about this ie not gonna watch that youtube!

zappi, Friday, 16 September 2011 13:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

^

A Fudgesicle is a frozen, ice cream-like snack. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

I really want to play this but after Demon's Souls I have a strong suspicion that I am simply not good enough at video games to make any significant progress. :(

polyphonic, Friday, 16 September 2011 20:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol

From Software, developers of Demon's Souls and it's upcoming 'spiritual successor' Dark Souls, are taking a characteristically uncompromising approach to players who have managed to get their hands on the game early.
Like Demon's Souls, Dark Souls comes packed with a mechanic that allows players to invade other's worlds. From Software are using this feature to send out maxed-out characters into the early-adopters games and systemically killing them off.

zappi, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 17:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 17:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

ok a+++ thats awesome

guh (jjjusten), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 17:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

holy fuck. i want that job!!

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 17:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

U DIED

Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 19:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

basically i am going to play the fuck out of this game and not eat or sleep is kinda how i break it down to an extent

Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 19:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

these are those times where i wonder if i am just wired oddly as a gamer because punishingly difficult isnt a positive in my book

guh (jjjusten), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 19:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

no need to respond to that, i made a different thread to talk about how i am weak-willed and cowardly

guh (jjjusten), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 20:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

i never really found dark souls impossibly difficult. it's hard yeah, but i find it WAY easier and more rewarding than, say, halo. I'm just hardwired to deal well with this kind of shit i guess. I can't get past the first half hour of gears of war or handle bullet hell tho.

Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 20:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

wait, so do you have to play this online? p much not interested if that's the case.

original bgm, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 20:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

don't think you HAVE to, just opens up some elements of bizarro multiplayer

Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 20:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

sick.

demon's souls seemed right up my alley but I don't have a ps3. I'm thinking that this might do nicely in its absence.

original bgm, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 20:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

"You're already dead, and so is everything else, and all of it hates you."

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 3 October 2011 14:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

hah is that from the eurogamer review?

strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh man, that reviiew was JUST what i wanted to hear

Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

WHICH CLASS DO I START WITH?>???

I might try thief at the outset but if I get brutally murdered I will explore other options..

strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 23:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

We thought you'd like to know that the following item has been despatched and should be with you in a few days.

SO HYPED

zappi, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 23:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

i died

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 00:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

My characters name is YOUDIED

strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 02:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

play as deprived or feel eternal shame

my other display name is my facebook status (Lamp), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 02:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

EXACTLY
damn i gotta check amazon to see when they're shipping my KOLLEKTERS EDISHUN

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 03:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

Delivery Estimate: October 12, 2011 - October 17, 2011
boo

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 03:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

the sealer straight up tells you about needing the ring and where to get it and i think the curse is mentioned on the item description and you can grab at least one in the ghost-free beginning of the level

Congrats on the second try kill, this is one of the most annoying trips back to the boss. what's with this board and people steamrolling this game?

chihuahuau, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 03:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

If it's any consolation, capra and stray demon took me a million tries.

I got the ring way earlier, after I killed Sif, but I don't remember being told what it does. Did the guy on the roof in New Londo say something about Artorias? Anyway, the description says something about the Abyss, but I wouldn't even know what the Abyss was unless I was down in it, and if I was down in it without the ring I would be dead. Right? Sometimes (so far) I think the most difficult thing about the game is all the shit you accumulate and discover, some of which means something, some of which doesn't, some of which might, some of which might not, much of which can be ignored, or, conversely, be essential, depending on how you are playing. Like, I've got everything from gold coins to rubbish and I literally have no idea what to do with it.

I still contend there is next to no way to know some of this stuff without looking it up, and there is some stuff I am just dumbfounded that anyone ever discovered in the first place. Like locations of certain merchants and blacksmiths, or how the upgrade system even works, and so on. Just blows my mind. Respect to the spreadsheet nerds that figured it out, though I also suspect someone must have prodded their progress. Though who knows, people figure all sorts of shit out. That was one of the biggest problems with Ready Player One. Some dork would have solved the mystery in like 8 hours.

Speaking of which, having played (still playing) the first Dark Souls, when I move on to II and III, will I more or less know what to expect? Or look for? Or how things work? Or is it impenetrably arcane in whole new ways?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 04:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The details and mechanics change slightly in each game, but the overall approach is the same. III is much more like I, I'd actually recommend doing that before II (which is sort of its own animal).

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 05:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah, without spoiling things too much, ds3 is a much more direct sequel to the first game than ds2 - i'd probably just skip straight to the third one and then if you're still jonesing for more dark souls action go back to 2

tbh i'd probably recommend playing bloodborne before circling back to ds, bloodborne is very much a masterpiece in its own right

sign up for my waterless urinals webinar (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 11:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I think that might be the plan, as such. I actually already have Dark Souls II, because a while back the complete version with the DLC was on sale, but DSIII I guess hasn't put its complete version on sale yet so I will wait for that. I do have Bloodborne, though (in fact through a comedy of errors I have two copies) plus its DLC, so will get to that at some point.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 12:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Killed Gravelord Nito. Tomb of the Giants was a huge pain in the ass.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2018 21:57 (one week ago) Permalink

Blightown was more annoying than I remembered on NG+. On my first play through, I was the most guide-dependent in this area, and with no guide, it's just a confusing mess. Unhollowed and murdered Quelaag first-try (with Mildred in tow), but then died very honestly (several times) while attempting to ascend the conveyor belt to get home.

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 30 November 2018 22:18 (one week ago) Permalink

If you wanted to, you could have just taken the back door! Dip down from Firelink to New Londo, take the elevator to Valley of the Drakes, then take the conveyor belt down to Quelaag and you're done.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 30 November 2018 22:22 (one week ago) Permalink

Btw a friend doing his first playthrough brought his Switch over so I could get him to Andre's bonfire (I think he had gotten there himself, but hadn't noticed the stairs, then kept dying and lost motivation). I've never felt more useful in my life.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 30 November 2018 22:28 (one week ago) Permalink

So what am I supposed to do next? I can't remember if I was told or if there was some hint, which is one other downside of a game this esoteric, especially if you take a few days off, or hope around in a weird order. For example, I bumped into someone at Firelink but I wasn't sure if I recognized them. Asked me a question about pyromancer, I told him, and ... now he's vendor. Then there was a woman in Tomb that I didn't know; I killed her dudes, and she gave me something, but I don't know what to do with it. Was she the one who used to be praying in Firelink with a bunch of bodyguards? Also down in Tombs some asshole kicked me off a cliff; was I supposed to know him? And last I saw my bud Solaire he was moping defeated in Lost Izalith. Why? Did I miss something?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2018 22:38 (one week ago) Permalink

Ok Josh I think it's time to look at the wiki
http://darksouls.wikidot.com/npcs

I think now you can either go to the final boss, or go to the dlc. You should go to the dlc (and that you definitely need a guide on how to access...it's ridiculous, but I think when they released it they really wanted people to go back through the game to figure out what was different, and work together to figure out how to do it).

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 30 November 2018 22:42 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah I know about that shortcut but I just kind of... ended up dashing through the world and not thinking. Got to Quelaag's sister-- also, I FORGOT SHE WAS HIDDEN BEHIND A SECRET DOOR, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS GAME-- and realized that there was no shortcut activated, just the Lavalous Chamber Of Boredom, so I turned around

I am definitely probably not going to move on past getting the Lordybowl, no real positive memories of the back half of this game

Might do DLC again though

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 30 November 2018 22:43 (one week ago) Permalink

Things I haven't done, afaict: giant tree/ash lake, Crystal dragon area (?), final boss, vanishing boss in a long hallway ... ? I'm sure there is a ton of other stuff I've missed, too. It's hard to tell what to do next because the goal of the game has always been deliriously vague!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2018 22:45 (one week ago) Permalink

Wow, I looked at that wiki and it is remarkable how few of those names I recall from memory, how few of those NPCs I recognize even from reading their descriptions, and ... well, why I should care? Onion Knight is the only one I ever really seemed to interact with much. And Solaire, I guess. The other people would talk and offer things, but to what end ... I dunno. I assume if I had a different build. So far in the game almost all my purchases and equipment and upgrades I've gotten from Andre and the Undead Female Merchant.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2018 22:53 (one week ago) Permalink

Giant Tree is annoying, Ash Lake is a slog but it's pretty. Doing the vanishing boss was sad, because you break bad to do it, but it was fun and worth it, I guess, it kind of goes full Japan on you for a bit.

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 30 November 2018 23:22 (one week ago) Permalink

Hmm, so I've been spending time Duke's Archives, and as far as I can tell I've killed everything but Seath the Dragon, more than once, and 1) I still haven't found a key to unlock Hatman in the basement and 2) the two times I faced Seath he just kept his distance and then killed me instantly with those crystals. Is this like the Hydra, where you have to find the magic spot? And where is that stupid key?

I did like how the first time I faced Seath he was pretty easy to get to, and then as soon as I died I woke up in some random cell by a random bonfire that wouldn't let me warp. So far I think I've found three bonfires in Duke's Archives, which seems ... excessive?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:02 (one week ago) Permalink

you can't kill seath in that room, you need to ignore him and find another way out of the archives. i don't remember where logan's key is exactly

chihuahuau, Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:08 (one week ago) Permalink

I must be turned around then, since I thought I explored everything.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:29 (one week ago) Permalink

*extremely quiet whisper* you have to let Seath kill you

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 2 December 2018 00:05 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh wait you did that. I can't remember where Logan's Key is but you need to unlock him to kill Seath iirc? I remember Duke's Archive's being very long and very tedious

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 2 December 2018 00:06 (one week ago) Permalink

The cut scene had a hint, but you need to find something in that room that will make him vulnerable.

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 2 December 2018 00:45 (one week ago) Permalink

(no need to unlock Logan, he's optional, but the key is near the bonfire before you leave the Archives to go to the caves area, behind the bookshelves somewhere)

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 2 December 2018 00:52 (one week ago) Permalink

huh. I really must have just gotten turned around.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 December 2018 01:02 (one week ago) Permalink

doesn't make it any less confusing to throw one of those turning staircases in the middle of it.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 December 2018 01:03 (one week ago) Permalink

Killed Seath, was relatively easy once I stopped getting cursed. Fount Gwyn once and lost, but don't foresee it being too bad when I head back to the game. I like the spooky, desolate, lonely vibe of that last level, and particularly like that they don't make you fight a million pia monsters on the way to face the Big Bad, just a few easy to kill knights.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 December 2018 20:51 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh, wait, do I do the DLC before or after I face him? How about the Giant Tree and Ash Lake, should I do them first? Is Gwyn the end-end, roll-the-credits end?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 December 2018 21:03 (one week ago) Permalink

DLC (and everything else) is before Gwyn. If you defeat Gwyn, you go into NG+ whether you want to or not.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 3 December 2018 21:06 (one week ago) Permalink

NG+ is ... the hard version? Do you start from scratch? I don't think I want to do that, so maybe I will explore the stuff I've missed first.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 December 2018 21:09 (one week ago) Permalink

You start over, nothing's really different except you keep most of your gear and enemies do more damage and have more health.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 3 December 2018 21:11 (one week ago) Permalink

Eh, I think that means I should hold off on Gwyn for now and maybe try to other stuff I've missed.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 December 2018 21:57 (one week ago) Permalink

OK, figuring it was sort of a use it or lose it situation, I went to the Great Hollow, which was mostly a pain, because I kept getting cursed, which was as annoying as Sen's. But at this point I'm pretty powerful, so even at half strength it wasn't that bad, though in the end there really doesn't seem to be much in there. Which leads me to Ash Lake, which might as well be called the Great Empty. There's even less there, afaict, other than a chill dragon you can pray to, and not only do they recycle the hydra as a mini-boss, they more or less recycle the way to kill it, and ... you don't even have to chop off all of its heads! Kinda lame. One of the stupidest bosses along with Seath, who is otherwise in this really cool environment, gets a cool intro, and turns out to be an albino dragon slug that moves slowly and curses you if you get overambitious while relatively easily kicking its ass.

So now all that's left is the DLC (which I haven't looked into yet) and that hidden dark wizard in Anor Londo. Oh, and Gwyn. Kind of weird how this ultra challenging game sort of peters out at the end with all these big empty places.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 21:53 (one week ago) Permalink

You don't have to chop off all the first hydra's heads if you do enough damage, I think. Alternatively, you can chop off their heads but still leave the body alive if you do really low damage, then you have to finish it with arrows or whatever.

Apparently they were running out of dev time for the late game sections, which is why the Demon Ruins etc aren't nearly as interconnected and cool as earlier parts.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:24 (one week ago) Permalink

It's such a bummer, because obviously a lot of work was still put into those sections. Also, it's been 7 years or whatever, so I'm a little surprised they didn't fill in the gaps, so to speak. Plus I've encountered more than a few glitches so far - books floating in midair, enemies attacking through walls - and while ironically that has traditionally been part of the Dark Souls experience, as I understand it, you'd think they'd have cleaned it up a bit.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 23:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah I don't expect I'm gonna go further in my NG+ play through than Anor Londo + Painted Ruins + Lordvessel + DLC. I don't look forward to the Catacombs/Tomb/New Londo/Archives/Crystal/Tree/Lake/Hellscape nearly so much as the first half of the game

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:10 (six days ago) Permalink

Honestly! Demon Ruins + Lost Izalith are not fun!

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:11 (six days ago) Permalink

agreed. post anor londo, only tomb and new londo are comparable to the first half

painted > catacombs > blighttown > undead > depths > tomb > anor londo > darkroot > new londo > sen

chihuahuau, Thursday, 6 December 2018 12:42 (six days ago) Permalink

I kinda liked Archives, at least on my 1st playthrough. Seath was kinda bad tho, and the boss run seemed waaaaaay long.

Anor Londo
Undead
Sen
Painted
Blighttown
Tomb
Darkroot
Archives
Catacombs
Depths

closed beta (NotEnough), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:01 (six days ago) Permalink

Hmm, I'm not sure how I would rank things at this point. I guess it would have to be a balance of enemy and environment, which actually supports Blightown and Painted or even Darkroot or New Londo as peaks. The issue I've come up with is as you make your way you get stronger and better and more powerful, but the enemies don't really scale with you. That is, they get more difficult, but only if you're not leveled up. Which makes the environments do the heavy lifting for the game, which in turn makes things frustrating. The enemies become incidental and the long walk becomes the challenge, which in turn becomes kind of boring, since it's often your own stupidity or sloppiness after having to do the same run again and again that's the challenge, not the fight. I dunno, I guess that lend weight to the first half of the game being the best, but it's a tough call, since a lot of what makes that first half so fun and rewarding is just figuring things out. And then your reward is that the second half isn't so bad. Another easier aspect of the later stages is that dying is even less of a big deal, because you are plenty leveled and blowing off 40k souls or whatever is nbd.

I'm going to dive into the DLC today, that looks pretty cool. And yeah, there is no way I would have known it was there or where it was if I didn't look it up.

Speaking of which, I must have interacted with the NPCs out of order or forgotten to do something. Solaire, as I mentioned, I last saw sitting dejected near Demon Ruins. Why? What's up with him? And Onion Knight, I've seen him all over the place, perhaps last being rescued by me in Anor Londo. And then later I saw his daughter (maybe in Crystal Caverns or Archives?) and told her, yes, I'd seen her dad. But then I saw her again in Firelink and she asked me if I had seen her dad again. So I said yes again. But then I bumped into Onion Knight sleeping in the swamp when I went to explore the tree, gave him some Moss, and helped him escape again. A lot of the other Firelink NPCs have just sort of vanished, and I can't remember where they've gone, whether they went aggro and I killed them or if they left for a quest or whatever. For example, once I was down in Blightown and I got invaded by some NPC, which I killed easily. Who was that/ Dunno. But the most recent trip to the swamp I got rushed by what I assume is a different NPC, one with pyro. I easily beat that one, too, but have no idea who or what it was.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:34 (six days ago) Permalink

One of the things that really appealed to me about Ico back in 2003 or whatever was the feeling that the "show" was the environment, the way it revealed itself, that you'd see the windmill in the distance, and then you'd be at the windmill, and then hours later you'd be out on the ramparts and see the windmill still blowing in the wind, 500m away in-game.

Dark Souls really did that in the way the environments twist and turn and have back doors to each other. In general I loved the denseness and variety of the basic Burg / Parish / Lower Burg / Woods / Basin kind of hub. It was only when shit started to become more linear that the game started to feel less interesting. The DLC was probably my favourite part of the game after that.

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:48 (six days ago) Permalink

I wonder what the game would have been like with no fast travel? On the one hand, it could get super annoying. On the other hand, nothing is really too far away, and late in the game it would be pretty easy to run past or beat most enemies. Might have made it feel less ... rushed? Pro forma? I'm still having fun in these end moments, but a lot of it also feels sort of rote. Like, with only one attempt under my belt I have no doubt I'll be able to beat Gwyn, just messing around elsewhere for the time being and putting off the inevitable.

Having just played it beforehand, I think Hollow Knight might have ultimately been more challenging/rewarding, though obviously it would not have existed were it not for Dark Souls, and Dark Souls has still been a total blast.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:59 (six days ago) Permalink

xxp

the pyro npc was laurentius, who was trapped in a barrel in the depths and sold you the pyromancy flame in firelink

onion moves from the swamp to izalith and 3 things may happen there. another one for looking it up on the wiki, if you do things right you get a slab

logan moves to the archives

solaire moves from the ruins to the izalith corridor shortcut that's only open if you're a good chaos servant and fights you. if it's open he survives and can be summoned for gwyn

chihuahuau, Thursday, 6 December 2018 15:02 (six days ago) Permalink

Huh. I rescued Logan from the archives, but I don't know where he went after that. Onion guy, I feel like I interacted with him and his daughter a bunch, but seeing as I am almost finished I must not have done the right thing. The pyro guy, yeah, I seem to remember rescuing him from a barrel in lower depths, so why did he try to kill me? Is that part of the mythology I somehow missed? There was a guy I rescued from sen's fortress as well, who is that and where did he go? When I'm done I'll have to look all this stuff up, assuming I even remember who these people are and where I encountered them.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 December 2018 15:31 (six days ago) Permalink

it's dark souls, all npcs die at the end of their quest
logan should still be in the archives' library side room rapidly losing his sanity, he's the one you rescued from sen's
laurentius goes hollow if you tell him where quelaana is, if you don't he'll stay in firelink forever

chihuahuau, Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:37 (six days ago) Permalink

Dag ... Artorius. This guy might be the most times I've gotten my ass kicked in a row since Capra Demon, and there are no dogs or tight spaces involved. Gotta figure out a good strategy!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 December 2018 20:51 (five days ago) Permalink

I was close to taking down Artorius before I had to go on a trip. I assume there will be a slight curve getting back up to speed now that I'm back, which will leave me with him, the dragon, and Manus. Right? Oh, and I guess that disappearing Anor Londo hallway wizard, but that doesn't seem like much of a battle.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 01:09 (yesterday) Permalink

Playing on Switch. Up to Sen's Fortress. First couple of tries, I hated it. Dozens of deaths later, I love it. Is Dark Souls just Stockholm Syndrome: The Game?

days of being riled (zchyrs), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:05 (yesterday) Permalink

It feels good the first time you figure out you can waste lizardmen with the traps

days of being riled (zchyrs), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:06 (yesterday) Permalink

There's definitely a steep learning curve but it's so empowering once you nail it.

closed beta (NotEnough), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 20:08 (yesterday) Permalink

that disappearing Anor Londo hallway wizard, but that doesn't seem like much of a battle.

Actually one of the harder bosses for me, since you need to have a read on each of his ranged attacks and know how to react (and some of them can kill you in one shot). And you can't make it much easier with poise/damage racing etc (although actually a shield + armor with amazing magic resistance probably trivializes the fight, I've never tried).

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:01 (yesterday) Permalink

I killed Gwyn first try with my overpowered muscle bastard but it was definitely a challenging fight

Unfortunately Mario Fight Club has taken over this household and Dark Souls is no longer on my brain

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:40 (yesterday) Permalink


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