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I couldn't find a thread at all on this, which is a little surprising.

I tried the trial game last night. Anyone else play it?

Not totally gripped by it yet, but I'll give it the 14 day stint for a thorough examination.

And can you not control your ship manually? This is awful, and takes away a huge sense of being in control and being part of the world.

Ste, Thursday, 28 February 2008 09:43 (sixteen years ago) link


Ste, Thursday, 28 February 2008 11:47 (sixteen years ago) link

you can get frontier for free still :D

DG, Thursday, 28 February 2008 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link

and crash into planets on autopilot? no thanks


Ste, Thursday, 28 February 2008 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link

the funny thing was, the bugs in Frontier never stopped me from endlessly playing it. haha

Ste, Thursday, 28 February 2008 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link

a whole galaxy on a 1.44Mb disc

DG, Thursday, 28 February 2008 14:37 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah it was pretty big wasn't it. Although i don't think i ever had enough fuel to get further than about 3 systems.

Ste, Thursday, 28 February 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

and space battles with pirates were just a joke, they'd kill me every time

Ste, Thursday, 28 February 2008 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

i've come to the conclusion already that this game is a bit turd and tiresome.

Ste, Thursday, 28 February 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

I've recently stopped playing it. I think in theory it is complex and fascinating and has a persistent-world element in that the politics/economics of the game are player-driven and vital, but in practice, it requires a good deal of time-committment to see any of that stuff in effect.

I knew it wasn't a casual player's game, little did I know circumstances would turn me into a casual player within a few months of taking it up.

If anyone is thinking of joining, I'd strongly recommend finding a guild to join, but not a mercenary guild unless you are able to play several nights a week and don't mind a lot of time spent playing 'hunt the wabbit'.

Zora, Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah I have a friend who is super-into this game, but apparently all he does is pilot his mining ship around and shoot lasers at space rocks / space ice? I'm not really sure what he's getting out of it.....

I'm intrigued by the economic aspects of the game and being able to margin / commodity trade is neat but it would probably a) take up too much time and b) be eerily similar to my day job...

Matt D, Thursday, 12 June 2008 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, i already pilot a space ship for 8 hours a day, thankyouverymuch

Will M., Thursday, 12 June 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

four years pass...

I barely understand a single thing in this post, but apparently there was a giant battle that involved over 3000 players and the destruction of $154,000 of in-game value. Follow-up post here

The video of the battle is 100% insane


Elvis Telecom, Monday, 28 January 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

i understand nothing about eve online but i lovelovelove stories about it

SOYLENT GREEN IS SHEEPLE (stevie), Monday, 28 January 2013 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

Are the lines lasers or something

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Monday, 28 January 2013 23:10 (eleven years ago) link

Yah, some sort of laser or energy weapon. I really want to play it, but am afraid.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 07:25 (eleven years ago) link

True story - I was once interviewing a guy when he suddenly dug into his pocket and pulled out printouts of his EVE company accounts as "proof of his business acumen".

JimD, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 09:15 (eleven years ago) link

Great Cthulhu, I gotta admire the dedication...

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 10:37 (eleven years ago) link

TS: complex dedication of EVE Online players vs. complex dedication of airline frequent flyer hyper-milers.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 10:56 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

EVE Online once again makes traditional space opera completely obsolete. I never want to play this game, hearing the stories third-hand really does make them sound like they're in a galaxy far, far away.

The EVE Upset (good quotes in that one)

Eve Online ship worth 309 billion ISK goes up in flames, comms goes wild

Eve Online spy disbands major alliance from the inside, takes up to 400 billion ISK

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 12 July 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link

Again, I don't understand any of it, but it sounds awesome whatever it was.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 12 July 2013 12:07 (ten years ago) link

A week ago, an Eve spy disbanded a major alliance from the inside and made off with up to 400 billion ISK. Meticulous planning, months of deception and the advice of GoonSwarm’s finest espionage experts all contributed to what seemed like the crime of the century.

Well, here’s another. On Sunday night, a spy embedded within Pandemic Legion led a fleet of supercarriers into an ambush in Odamia space. A 309 billion ISK Revenant, one of only three in existence, was destroyed so quickly that it made alliance figurehead Jeffraider “kind of giddy”.

why even bother writing "hard" science-fiction after that?

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 12 July 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Now it's BBC-worthy: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23489293

Eve players stage giant online space battle

29 July 2013 Last updated at 07:05 ET

Space battles are a fact of life in Eve Online

One of the largest video game space battles ever seen has taken place in the Eve Online game.

For five hours on 28 July about 4,000 players took part in the epic battle between two of the game's biggest alliances.

The two sides were fighting for control of resources within several of the game's solar systems.

Time was slowed down in the virtual universe to help servers cope with the huge numbers of players and ships.

The battle pitted spaceships belonging to CFC against those from the Test Alliance in a region of space known as 6VDT. It ended in victory for CFC.

Eve Online is a detailed space simulation that sees players fly spaceships through thousands of virtual star systems, seeking resources they can use to prosper.

The resources can be found on planets and in asteroid fields or acquired through piracy or other underhand means.

Ships vary in size from small trading vessels to giant capital ships.

Erlendur Thorsteinsson, one of Eve Online's developers, confirmed in a tweet that the battle was the biggest ever seen in the game.

At its peak the battle involved 4,070 pilots and their ships.

Game time was slowed to 10% of normal to lighten the load on servers working out who was shooting at whom.

The pivotal moment in the battle took place two hours in, when CFC sent in a large fleet of capital ships - the most powerful in the game.

Their arrival prompted many members of the Test Alliance to try to flee.

By the end of the conflict thousands of ships are believed to have been destroyed.

Their destruction has a real-world cost as the game's internal currency can be bought with real money.

So far no-one has worked out the total value of the ships destroyed, but a far smaller battle earlier in 2013 laid waste to far fewer spacecraft that in total were estimated to be worth more than $15,000 (£10,000).

The giant battle was the culmination of a long campaign by CFC to force the Test Alliance out of 6VDT.

Some have speculated that it may be the only the first of a series of conflicts that seek to extinguish TEST.

"These kinds of conflicts are business as usual in Eve but this one was bigger than normal," said James Binns from the PCGamesN website.

Mr Binns said several big events had made the last few weeks in Eve absorbing to watch. During that time a giant ship was hijacked and then destroyed in a carefully co-ordinated ambush and a huge in-game corporation was disbanded and its resources stolen by a spy from a rival faction.

"It's a fascinating online world and its constant drama is nothing like any other game," he said.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 08:18 (ten years ago) link


Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 08:40 (ten years ago) link

I've never played Eve, I will never play Eve. But I find all this endlessly fascinating.

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets. (stevie), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 09:14 (ten years ago) link

The foe is doing morale pings with LOTR quotes. We're not going to bother with a morale ping because we're in the system first, we have seven Baltecfleets, one AHAC fleet, two Bomber wings, one FuckYouFleet, and yeah.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 09:36 (ten years ago) link

OK, here's a battle report from a CFC Fleet Commander. It's borderline bulldada, but mad respect to the dedication.

(Editor's Note: This battle report is the personal account of Vily, a Goonswarm Federation Fleet Commander and the leader of one of the CFC Megathron fleets in the battle of 6VDT.)

Today, ladies and gentlemen, we saw the largest engagement in the history of video games.

I say that because a battle involving over 4000 pilots is now over, with the embers of our enemies' wrecks still smoldering (even though they technically can't) in the cold, dark space of 6VDT-H in Fountain.

This battle is the culmination of what will likely be called the Fountain War, a war that has raged for two months and represents one of the most dynamic conflicts of EVE Online in the last two years.

When we (the CFC, or ClusterFuck Coalition) decided to reinforce the 6VDT-H station, we did so merely on a whim. TEST Alliance had shown an unacceptable level of resistance to one of our daily European timezone siege groups; the farther they let us push, the farther we shall push. In a surprising turn of events, TEST Alliance decided to time the station timer for European prime (afternoon US timezone) instead of the usual Australian timezone strategy, which has, while providing little success in the past, at least allowed them to resist at a moderate level.

We didn't think particularly much of the timer; 6VDT-H is not anywhere near the level of strategic importance it once held. Its use as a transit hub is mostly deprecated, and it no longer represents an active military base for more than a fraction of TEST's forces. However, the morning after the initial attack, we awoke to a surprise: All TEST operations for the following two days had been canceled. All forces were to prepare for a defence of 6VDT on Sunday, the 28th of July. This was where they would hold the line. This was where they would end our advance.

So: we in the CFC prepared, as we do for all operations. We analyzed the locations and timers and organized our allies and membership. We were told that TEST Alliance, along with their returning allies N3/Nulli (altogether known as N3ST), would make a stand. This would be their Alamo. We found weaknesses. N3ST's moon control was lacking, allowing us, with moderate effort the day before, to gain complete moon supremacy, thereby ensuring that there would be no "high ground" (a moon-based tower) for N3ST to fall back to. This would limit their options if they chose to deploy super-capital class assets into the fight. Preparation and organization is a hallmark of CFC strategy, and for a battle as important as this, no opportunity for advantage would be passed up.

The morning of the fight we had some chats, but the FC group in charge of the CFC war machine are old dogs for this type of fight. We know the mechanics of herding our people, moving them at best speed, and getting there to the destination in best order. Before a single broadcast had gone out, 2300 people sat ready in 4-EP (the CFC staging base). More would log-in over the course of the day. The N3ST staging systems amassed just under two thousand pilots, leaving them slightly outnumbered, but not by a margin anywhere near what we had expected.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 10:53 (ten years ago) link

One more...

At approximately 5 minutes left of the station timer, hostile cynosural fields were spotted in system and the enemy (N3ST) forces took titan bridges into system. It's hard to describe the sense of anticipation one feels when preparing for something of this grand scale, and certainly the pulse of myself and many other of the fleet commanders rose. The fight was coming; it was happening.

Our position on that station was the best equivalent to a proper formation in EVE I can describe. With each member of each fleet orbiting a single point (the station), we created a spherical wall with a roughly 80km edge from side to side. Spread out this much, we were almost entirely invulnerable to bombers, while at the same time within range from both sides for our Megathron guns to target any ship that came at us. This was the stance we chose, and doing so surrounding the enemy station. The ball was in their court. Come to us, we said; they had to, so they did.

The fight, like most fights, didn't happen as the N3ST forces would have wished. A bomber group under Dabigredboat started the fight by initiating a bomb run against one of the hostile fleets, forcing them to stay in position or warp to their only aligned point - the station. Rather than accept their instant destruction under a hail of bombs, they took the next worst choice: engage warp and prepare to fight. Rather than let their comrades die alone, several of the other TEST fleets entered warp as well. There was no going back.

The first fleet to land was a segment of the electronic warfare group avoiding the bomb run, but it would be followed in such close succession by Prophecy and AHAC groups that it could have hardly been more than a minute between warp-ins. Now we were truly engaged. Fire was exchanged, and the massive groups of railguns carried by the Megathron fleets spun into action. At the same time, the Prophecy groups began dropping and assisting their sentry drones and focusing their huge salvos of damage.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 11:01 (ten years ago) link

Just as I was reading that someone behind me in the office starting humming the Star Wars Imperial March.

click here to start exploding (ledge), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 11:04 (ten years ago) link

The images of the space battles remind me of the chaos of the 21st centurey Battlestar Galactica dogfights

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets. (stevie), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 11:11 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

I love that there were privateer interceptors flying from wreck to wreck looting and salvaging while battle was in progress.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 31 January 2014 06:15 (ten years ago) link

Any ILXors actually playing this? I succumbed and got a 14 day trial account.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 08:54 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...



Naturally, the record for the largest and most costly single engagement in EVE history was expected to stand for some time.

It didn’t.

In fact, B-R5RB’s record was shattered a little over two months later by players on EVE Online’s other game server, Serenity, which hosts Chinese players and is operated by CCP partner TianCity.

Behold the Battle of 49-U6U

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 02:23 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

i understand nothing about eve online but i lovelovelove stories about it

― SOYLENT GREEN IS SHEEPLE (stevie), Monday, January 28, 2013 5:09 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gbx, Monday, 19 May 2014 02:57 (nine years ago) link

the part of me that loves neal stephenson thinks that we should be using EVE to create artificial intelligence but idk it's late and i'm tired

gbx, Monday, 19 May 2014 03:07 (nine years ago) link

this game is weird because the stories you read are so interesting and then you watch gameplay videos and have absolutely no fucking idea is happening and it looks p boring

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 19 May 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link

serious question - should i download this and try playing it? the stories make it sound amazing

Mordy, Monday, 19 May 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

I had a trial account and ended up letting it expire. The UI is... daunting, but I did managed to successfully loot some dead ships and explore a planet. Would have loved to keep going but the gameplay doesn't lend itself to a quick 30 minute play before going to bed.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 19 May 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

I re activated my trial acct last night and whereas before I was lost and couldn't manage more than 20min, last night I got sucked in for like three hours

gbx, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

so i've been playing this lately. i joined Eve U and i'm working on solo PVP. i like it!

Mordy, Monday, 18 August 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link

There was a really interesting podcast about this person in it, Vile Rat, who was killed in Benghazi but was a very prominent character in the game.

Explains a bit of the game as well:


hyggeligt, Monday, 18 August 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...


, Thursday, 31 March 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

i love the maps


, Thursday, 31 March 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link

I don't know why I find stuff like this fascinating, but I do.

emil.y, Thursday, 31 March 2016 23:11 (seven years ago) link

I like that this was started by that Mitani dude starting a kickstarter to toot his factions horn in some video

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 1 April 2016 00:12 (seven years ago) link

i would like to play this but afraid of time suckage

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 1 April 2016 00:15 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I played this for a few months last year. Had some fun times but mostly it just felt like a second job.

circa1916, Friday, 1 April 2016 01:38 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

How EVE Players Pulled Off The Biggest Betrayal In Its History

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 15 September 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link

there's a new one of these "biggest betrayal's in eve history" articles every couple years but i love them all

Mordy, Friday, 15 September 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

i have, once again, reactivated my account, and have managed to read enough to think i might last oh say at least a month this time

gbx, Monday, 15 April 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link

Had no idea this was still active

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 April 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Eve provides something no other MMORPG does, a persistent universe where people who have little control in their real lives can rise to meaningful social prominence. That alone could guarantee its persistence for decades to come, even with little investment in updates or promotion.

despondently sipping tomato soup (Sanpaku), Saturday, 13 July 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

One player spent 10 years exploring every corner of Eve Online

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 14 July 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link

one year passes...


In 2014, an Eve Online player by the name of Vily was a fleet commander for one of the most powerful groups in the game. After helping to lead thousands of other players on successful campaigns across the virtual galaxy, he informed his in-game boss that he needed to step away for a real-world military deployment. When he returned just a few months later, Vily learned that he had effectively been laid off.

“When I came back,” Vily told Polygon during an interview last week, “they were like, ‘No, we don’t really need you anymore.’ So I said, ‘All right. If you’re going to ignore the contributions I’ve made over these four or five years, I’ll go do something else somewhere else. And I’ll enjoy tearing you down, if that’s the game you want to play.’”

Five years later, Vily is a fleet commander once more. This time he’s in charge of one of the most massive fleets in gaming history. Tens of thousands of player-owned accounts have rallied to his flag. The target of his virtual conquest? None other than his former employer, the notorious Alex “The Mittani” Gianturco.

Multiple sources inside and outside the conflict tell Polygon that the pieces are in place for an epic confrontation, one that could spell the end of Goonswarm — one of the most powerful factions in Eve Online.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 19 December 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Eve Online fans literally cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

There aren't many games for which built-in integration with Microsoft Excel would be a major feature whose announcement would draw literal cheers from fans. But Eve Online showed itself to be the exception when developer CCP announced coming Excel integration during its Eve Fanfest keynote this morning.

Through an official partnership with Microsoft, CCP said it is creating a JavaScript API that will allow players to "seamlessly export data from Eve Online" into the popular spreadsheet program. That "will help players access and calculate everything from profit margins to battle strategy, making day-to-day Eve operations easier to execute," the company said in a press release.

"It's not April fools; this is real," Eve Online Creative Director Bergur Finnbogason said on the Fanfest stage, receiving bemused laughter in response. "I'm not lying—we actually reached out to Microsoft and they were like, 'Oh my god, we love Eve!'"

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 7 May 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

EVE Online player uses obscure rule to pull off the biggest heist in the game's history

Back in 2017, we learned about the biggest heist in EVE Online history: A year-long inside job that ultimately made off with an estimated 1.5 triillion ISK, worth around $10,000 in real money. But now another EVE player claims to have pulled off a heist worth significantly more than that—and with significantly less work involved.

The 2017 heist, like so many of EVE's most interesting stories, relied primarily on social engineering: Investing months or years of time into grooming a target before pulling the rug out from beneath them. But redditor Flam_Hill said this job was less bloody: Instead of betrayal, this theft was dependent upon learning and exploiting the "shares mechanic" in EVE Online in order to leverage a takeover of Event Horizon Expeditionaries, a 299-member corporation that was part of the Pandemic Horde alliance.

Using a "clean account with a character with a little history," Flan_Hill and an unnamed partner applied for membership in the EHEXP corporation. After the account was accepted, Flan_Hill transferred enough of his shares in the corporation to the infiltrator to enable a call for a vote for a new CEO. The conspirators both voted yes, while nobody else in the corporation voted at all.

This was vital, because after 72 hours the two "yes" votes carried the day. The infiltrating agent was very suddenly made CEO, which was in turn used to make Flan_Hill an Event Horizon Expeditionaries director, at which point they removed all the other corporate directors and set to emptying the coffers.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 05:55 (ten months ago) link


brimstead, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 15:08 (ten months ago) link

that's definitely gonna get written up in money stuff

, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 15:16 (ten months ago) link

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