The Third Annual Coint and Plick Poll: ILG’s Best Video Games of 2009 - Part Two: #52 through #75

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Continuing from here: The Third Annual Coint and Plick Poll: ILG’s Best Video Games of 2009 - Part One: #77 through #93

Here's what's come before:
#93: Bomberman Ultra – PSN – 1 point – 1 vote
#92: HALO 3 ODST – 360 – 3 pts – 1 vote
#91: Colin McRae’s Dirt 2 – 360 – 4 pts – 1 vote
#77: Virtual On Oratorio Tangram 5.66 – XBLA – 5 pts – 1 vote
#77: 50 Cent, Blood On The Sand – 360 – 5 pts – 1 vote
#77: Rock Band – iPhone – 5 pts – 1 vote
#77: Red Faction: Guerilla – 360 – 5 pts – 1 vote
#77: House of the Dead: Overkill – Wii – 5 pts – 1 vote
#77: PixelJunk Shooter – PSN – 5 points – 1 vote
#77: Muramasa: The Demon Blade – Wii – 5 pts – 1 vote
#77: Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2010 – Wii – 5 pts – 1 vote
#77: Forza Motorsport 3 – 360 – 5 pts – 1 vote
#77: Critter Crunch – PSN – 5 pts – 1 vote
#77: Need For Speed: Shift – 360 – 5 pts – 1 vote
#77: DeathSmiles – 360 – 5 pts – 1 vote
#77: NHL 2010 – PS3 – 5 pts – 1 vote
#77: Droplitz - XBLA – 5 pts – 1 vote

Two way tie for #75.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 29 January 2010 06:48 (nine years ago) link

#75: Way of the Samurai 3 – PS3 - 7 pts – 1 vote
Official Game Site


Forksclovetofu: A Feudal Japan sandbox game where you can wander the countryside like Toshiro Mifune in search of the next town to save or ravage? I gotta pick this up soon.

This is not a Review

Jamescobo: Way of the Samurai 3 is an assload of fun. Just a heads up: the first print run is apparently something like 20 or 30 thousand copies and stores don't know how many copies they'll be getting (if any). Buy it if you ever see it.

Developer Interview

"Get that katana sharpened and start eating things you pick up off the ground!"

forksclovetofu, Friday, 29 January 2010 06:50 (nine years ago) link

I'm intrigued by Anno 1404 (and by other versions on other platforms). It looks gorgeous at any rate.

Euler, Friday, 29 January 2010 06:54 (nine years ago) link

Three-way tie for #72.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 29 January 2010 06:55 (nine years ago) link

#72: Madden ’10 – PS3 – 8 pts – 1 vote
Official Game Site

Polyphonic: Much better graphics, better overall presentation, online multiplayer. Otherwise it's exactly the same as last year. I would get 2008 used instead of getting 2010.


Mordy: So expensive for a game with an expiration date!

Mr. Snrub: Seriously, fuck Madden football. And fuck the NFL and its exclusive contract with EA.

This guy is REAL pissed

Aarissi-a-roni: I took back my copy; it’s pretty horrible. The gameplay is basically identical to the last two versions except where they’ve broken it: the ball is constantly popping into the air when the QB gets hit; d-linemen intercept fumbles without ever seeing the ball; running backs get clobbered by five guys at once and still stay on their feet. I appreciate the effort to vary what happens on the field but the kind of thing I’m talking about should happen maybe once a season, not every other drive. The presentation is great except when it completely gets in the way of playing the game; after the first few times, the halftime show gets _real_ tired and there's no way to turn it off.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 29 January 2010 06:56 (nine years ago) link

#72: Infamous – PS3 – 8 pts - 1 vote
Official Game Site

Jeff Levine: The technical issues take me out of this game a bit, particularly the horrible civilian programming, weird behaviors and clipping. The city just doesn't feel as alive as GTA IV, yet it's not cartoony or as polished as Crackdown. It's sort of stuck in a weird middle ground. Missions so far are okay, though occasionally so short as to be comically pointless (I've beat several missions in under fifteen seconds). Combat is fine; I enjoy the lightning powers, jumping from tall buildings and healing downed civilians. The storytelling, especially early on, was surprisingly clunky.


Antexit: I think the combat's fine, but I feel like there should be some sort of a lock-on, even just for melee. I can't understand why there isn't, especially since every single bad guy in the game can hit you 95% of the time no matter what you're doing unless you're hitting the "evasive maneuver" button. The story is surprisingly terrible and poorly told. However it’s still lots of fun and really pushes my buttons. The grind where you beat an NPC unconscious and then heal them for the EXP is hilarious. I think the karma evens out for beating them and healing them, too. I did it for like an hour.

Zero Punctuation Review

Telephone thing: I like this game but it is buggy as shit.

Ste: It's been a fun run, but I don't think Infamous has any replay value. For me, GTA still rules the sandbox.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 29 January 2010 07:00 (nine years ago) link

#72: Trash Panic – PSN – 8 pts – 1 vote
Official Game Site


Gamasutra soundtrack interview

Smashpad Review

Daniel Primed discusses Trash Panic

Antexit: This overlooked game reminds me of the Japanese imports for the PS1 I used to get and have the best time ever playing with my friends. So weird and fun and original. Trash Panic is an innovative blend of puzzle play, resource management and action.
You have to love a game where half your games end with an action-movie slowmo shot of a roll of toilet paper or a sardine falling to the ground, like it was a cop who got shot on his last day before retirement. "NOOOOOO!!!!!!!"

Game Observer Review

forksclovetofu, Friday, 29 January 2010 07:02 (nine years ago) link

More soon; maybe Monday but more likely Sunday.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 29 January 2010 07:04 (nine years ago) link

people really should give WotS3 a chance

/no cobo (jamescobo), Friday, 29 January 2010 07:23 (nine years ago) link

Never heard of Trash Panic - looks fun!

Nhex, Friday, 29 January 2010 08:32 (nine years ago) link

Anno 1404 looks incredible! Aside from the ol' time/motivation issue would be tempted to give it a go, have never really seriously played a god game since populous.

take me to your lemur (ledge), Friday, 29 January 2010 10:22 (nine years ago) link

Playeed Anno on DS, got bored. They're really pretty but they're still just resource management sims at the end of the day. Although whoever voted for it would probably disagree with me on that.

JimD, Friday, 29 January 2010 10:51 (nine years ago) link

DS version seems to be a lot different from PC version. I'm still intrigued by both, esp. the PC version. I suspect I don't have the time to really get into this game. That's the problem with the kinds of games I want to like---they're huge and massive and meant to be played again and again (think Civ or Total War style games) but when you can play at most 1 or 2 hours a day, maybe 5 days a week...and the game takes repeated plays to open itself's hard to ever to get to point where it opens up. What games are actually worthy of making that kind of effort?

Euler, Friday, 29 January 2010 10:59 (nine years ago) link

they patched madden up a bit and the gameplay issues are nowhere near as bad as they were. shortly after i sold it i ended up with a free copy, so it's like the game wouldn't let me go. i like it fine now but the franchise is getting a little stale now, and it's not like there isn't a ton of things they could do better if ea moved some people off the 'gimmicks' team and onto 'make a better game' team.

aarrissi-a-roni, Friday, 29 January 2010 13:16 (nine years ago) link

oh wow, someone else voted for time fcuk apparently

abanana, Friday, 29 January 2010 13:19 (nine years ago) link

yeah I kinda have no desire to mess with Madden anymore. I love the Blitz franchise b/c it's just dumb arcade football and while it would be cool if it had an NFL license I like what they can do without that license (drugs, sex etc).

Euler, Friday, 29 January 2010 13:24 (nine years ago) link

I def don't have the ability to try out the PC version, but this thread convinced me to give DS Anno a go. I haven't used my DS in a bit, but I'll travel with it next week to give it a go.

Mordy, Friday, 29 January 2010 18:28 (nine years ago) link

It bums me out even thinking about Madden. What a waste.

Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Friday, 29 January 2010 20:16 (nine years ago) link

anno 1404/dod is kinda just resource mgmt at the core of it - havent played the ds verz so idk how stripped down that is - but it continuously builds upon that premise. theres almost no downtime in this game - none of the dull dragged-out periods in stuff like civ and the campaigns are genuinely challenging

i mean its basic civ + sim city w/the deepest elements of both taken out but its super compulsive and really well-designed. the missions are logical and build well upon each other - its a deeply engrossing game w/o being frustrating. also on pc it looks ~*amazing*~ u srsly cant front on what a good looking game this is

b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Saturday, 30 January 2010 05:26 (nine years ago) link

fwiw if i had had time to play it in 2009 ida voted europa III maybe - its got a lot more depth and the gameplay is way more interesting - but i can c y anno would work on ds well - its got a really good sense of visual space/logic

b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Saturday, 30 January 2010 05:28 (nine years ago) link

also worst game so far listed has 2 be forza 3

b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Saturday, 30 January 2010 05:32 (nine years ago) link

I played forza 3 once and I was impressed by the scenery having just been to one of the race tracks (georgia one)

stop assuming I assumed something LOL (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 30 January 2010 19:51 (nine years ago) link

worst game has to be 50 cent no?

stop assuming I assumed something LOL (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 30 January 2010 19:52 (nine years ago) link


rhea perlman is "horrible" (jjjusten), Saturday, 30 January 2010 19:53 (nine years ago) link

From now on (ie. for C&P '010) i am giving games at the bottom of mine 6 point just so my also-rans they are more 'special' than ALL YOUR ALSO RANS WHATTTTTTTTT!!!
this year i employed the gradient 5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/19 scale because i wanted 9 to be above 10 etc/for maximum irritation of forks (sorry forks!).

The controls are janky (Will M.), Saturday, 30 January 2010 23:40 (nine years ago) link

in fact -- 6 6 6 6 6 11 11 11 11 24 = lol

The controls are janky (Will M.), Saturday, 30 January 2010 23:43 (nine years ago) link

Coint and Plick -- the only end-of-year poll where someone puts thought into GAMING the system! zzzzzzzzzzzzing otm will m

The controls are janky (Will M.), Saturday, 30 January 2010 23:43 (nine years ago) link

o/ \o

brews before HOOS (s1ocki), Sunday, 31 January 2010 01:51 (nine years ago) link

oh, i'm maximally irritated alright. maximally irritated LIKE A FOX

forksclovetofu, Sunday, 31 January 2010 05:25 (nine years ago) link

10 point and 1 vote logjam starts here: 11 way tie.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 1 February 2010 06:53 (nine years ago) link

do it roger, do it

Nhex, Monday, 1 February 2010 06:55 (nine years ago) link

who's roger?

#61: Professor Layton and The Diabolical Box – DS – 10 pts – 1 vote

Official Game Site

Layton on Facebook


Zappi: This was excellent; I enjoyed it more than the first game... apart from the chess puzzles. Grrrrrr...

Wired developer interview

Forksclovetofu: I know they added the Dragon Quest alchemy subgame and the hamster hunt and all that wacky stuff and the animation and music are just as sweet as they were in ’08, but for some reason this felt like more of the same. I need a button that says “OKAY, I GET THE PLOT TWIST, CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT BIT OF STORY PLEASE?” I have every intention of returning to finish this sucker but it might be quite a while.

The First Hour

forksclovetofu, Monday, 1 February 2010 06:56 (nine years ago) link

#61: Bayonetta – 360 – 10 pts – 1 vote
Official Game Site


JimD: I maybe shouldn't really vote for this, I'm only about a third of the way in and it’s technically a 2010 release (ed. note – We’ll allow it; remind me to include this vote in the ’10 poll if I do it again). But it's ridiculous and audacious and hugely funny. And it feels like it manages to mock every stupid video game idea that's emerged in the last ten years, while simultaneously showing how cool those ideas could have been if they were handled less stupidly. I'm in love with it. I hope it stops kicking my arse soon.

SexyVideoGameLand Discussion

Zero Punctuation

Cozwen: u can play it w/one hand u know

Gamasutra’s “The Cultural Clash of Bayonetta”

Particularly icky costume customization

JamesCobo: I love everything except the loading times. I’m PS3 btw.

Versus CluClu Land

Gay Gamer Review

forksclovetofu, Monday, 1 February 2010 06:59 (nine years ago) link

#61: Style Savvy/Style Boutique – DS – 10 pts – 1 vote
Official Game Site


House of Dereon in Style Savvy

Cozwen: style savvy > big world puzzle book

Gay Gamer Review

Forksclovetofu: I made the mistake of giving this to my girlfriend this weekend and she put in about thirteen hours on it over two days. I've created a monster; it's like pokemon, but with slacks.

CNet Review

forksclovetofu, Monday, 1 February 2010 07:04 (nine years ago) link

I'll do the next six at #61 on Tuesday.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 1 February 2010 07:07 (nine years ago) link

Ha, Bayonetta was on the noms list you know (not nommed by me), and it did come out in december in Japan, which is why I figured I'd better get my vote in this time round (I'm never sure which release dates we take as definitive here - US ones?). But if it's valid next year too then hey, that's cool.

JimD, Monday, 1 February 2010 08:45 (nine years ago) link

Diabolical box only got one vote? Surprising

Mordy, Monday, 1 February 2010 14:59 (nine years ago) link

I'll be surprised if I don't love it but I won't get to it for at least 8 more months. I'm terrible at year-end polls b/c I fall so far behind.

Euler, Monday, 1 February 2010 15:02 (nine years ago) link

woah top psn game with 1 vote! that game looks great, wish it was on a system i owned.

abanana, Monday, 1 February 2010 18:35 (nine years ago) link

well, top PSP game; it's played on the handheld. There's definitely higher PSN (the ps3 downloadable service) games on the poll.
But the PSP is hella underrepresented, yes.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 1 February 2010 18:38 (nine years ago) link

I almost voted for F1 2009 PSP. And Final Fantasy Dissidia and Little Big Planet are both pretty decent. For PSP games.

if, Monday, 1 February 2010 18:57 (nine years ago) link

About Layton, same here! I'm sure it would've gotten on my poll if I'd gotten around to it, but I won't for a long while.

Nhex, Monday, 1 February 2010 20:08 (nine years ago) link

I was pretty underwhelmed by the first hour of Layton 2, after loving the first. It felt like it had shifted from nice proper puzzles to rubbish lateral thinking tests, which I hate (that thing with the flags and stuff outside the windows was just a bag of shit). I never went back to it.

JimD, Monday, 1 February 2010 20:24 (nine years ago) link

Bayonetta is my GotY 2010 until further notice (would have been in the top 4 of my 2009 ballot too), and the only game currently on the horizon which I can imagine unseating it is Yakuza 3.

/no cobo (jamescobo), Monday, 1 February 2010 21:17 (nine years ago) link

my browser really doesn't like this thread :(

brews before HOOS (s1ocki), Monday, 1 February 2010 22:04 (nine years ago) link

wish i knew how to make it more browser palatable.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 1 February 2010 22:15 (nine years ago) link

maybe make some of the youtubes and pics into links with url tags?

bnw, Monday, 1 February 2010 22:38 (nine years ago) link

I already templated this stuff out and REALLY don't want to retype this mess.
part of the desire is to make an interactive thread to browse. Try loading it with images off and it should be fine.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 1 February 2010 22:47 (nine years ago) link

This thread works great for me in Chrome.

Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Monday, 1 February 2010 22:59 (nine years ago) link

Chrome and Safari render it wonderfully with no hitches... it's Firefox unfortunately, which will still be my primary browser for some time. I guessing IE doesn't do well with it either.

Nhex, Monday, 1 February 2010 23:09 (nine years ago) link

#61: Tekken 6 – 360 – 10pts – 1 vote

Official Game Site

JimD: Probably helps that I skipped Tekken 5, but I was amazed to find myself really enjoying the weird story mode in this. It's got plenty of what I always loved about Tekken: ridiculous characters, stupid plots and utterly mental cut scenes. As a fighter it's mashy, but mashy is kind of what I like anyway.

Developer interview

RIP Heihachi

Cozwen: R U nominating tekken 6 from a future where it has good netcode?

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 05:50 (nine years ago) link

#61: Ghostbusters – 360 – 10pts – 1 vote
Official Game Site


The long, torturous road to The Ghostbusters Game

Zero Punctuation Review

Jjjusten: I almost rated this higher simply to get it boosted numerically on the list, because I think this game got slept on. It's way more fun than expected. Sure, getting the original actors to voice the characters and write the story is a huge plus, but that isn't what makes this game shine. Simply put, the gameplay is so good that it would be enjoyable if it were a Ghostbusters game or not. The graphics are stellar; ghost-trapping ghosts in particular. Unfortunately, as in Arkham Asylum there is a sad tendency to spend a lot of time using the alternate viewing mode (PKE sensor here, detective mode in Arkham) so you end up missing a lot of gorgeousness… let this be a heads up to designers to make these modes either integrated or timed in the future. Level design is great and smart; whenever you get in a rut the game upends your situation so you are suddenly in an alternate dimension or wandering the streets of NYC. To be fair, you still spend a lot of time in generic hallway/tunnel stomps, but it is juiced up enough to keep from going all Doom III on you. Default difficulty = u gonna die. A lot. This isn't a bad thing, but it does highlight the crushing flaw in this game, which is that the load screens are INTERMINABLE. Let me rephrase that: load SCREEN, as in only one, which by the time you finish the game you will have seen HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF TIMES. There is apparently a wealth of online coop/versus modes, but since no one else ever bought the damned game, that’s a sort of bittersweet fail.

A history of Ghostbuster video games (spoiler: they mostly suck)

"If we didn’t know any better we would have thought the Ghostbusters was developed on the Xbox 360 and ported, poorly, to the PlayStation 3."

Nhex: Surprisingly very hard! A total nostalgia trip for fans of the original movies; the sound effects (especially for ghost-trapping) are just so, so good.

Ghostbusters Porn

S1ocki: It's a renter imo. I kinda hate all the PKE meter stuff and it gives me a headache putting the goggles on and taking them off.

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 05:59 (nine years ago) link

#61: Killing Floor – PC – 10 pts – 1 vote
Official Game Site


Forksclovetofu: MMO-LFD2 4 UK PC AFAIK

Eurogamer Review

Gamer Limit Review

Will M: I was going to put Left 4 Dead 2 up here until I played this game. I am so glad I have. Now, don't get me wrong, it’s chock full of things I HATE in games: stupid nu-metal/industrial music; awful, awful attempts at fiction; endless cliché; the tired "you vs. zombies" motif. That said, when you get six friends together, welding the doors shut on a cabin and shooting desperately out the windows is insane fun. Plus, you can play solo to six players, unlike L4D2, where you pretty much need either four or eight to have any fun.

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 06:05 (nine years ago) link

*smacks head*

b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 06:09 (nine years ago) link

we got a ways to go in one/two vote territory, tune in tomorrow for the same.

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 06:10 (nine years ago) link

*questions head smacking*

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 06:11 (nine years ago) link

i think i understand the y of mb 6 of the games listed so far itt & 1 of those is style savvy i mean

b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 06:13 (nine years ago) link

Jamescobo: I have now bought Bookworm for four fucking platforms.

Peggle, actually; so far I have only bought Bookworm ON IPHONE (and it owns too)

/no cobo (jamescobo), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 06:13 (nine years ago) link

ppl r an unknowable mystery

b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 06:14 (nine years ago) link

whoops, sorry james. my misreading.

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 06:18 (nine years ago) link

im using chrome

brews before HOOS (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 18:03 (nine years ago) link

Two way tie for #59.

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 03:29 (nine years ago) link

#59: Money Seize – Flash – FREE - 11 pts – 1 vote
Official Game Site

Game discussion on Kongregate

Abanana: An addictive flash platformer. The "gentleman" main character seems to be a running trend among these games (see also Braid and Hatsworth).

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 03:30 (nine years ago) link

#58: Suikoden Tierkreis – DS – 11 pts – 2 votes
Official Game Site


Developer Interview

Sound Director Interview

The First Hour

Will M: I can't be sure: are Suikoden games actually good, in their own right, or are they simply stupid time-wasting collect-a-thons? I can't be sure, but I always gotta catch 'em all.

Lamp: I think its fantastic. It’s pretty straightforward and simple and looks really lovely. Not very open-ended though.

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 03:34 (nine years ago) link

57: MLB 2009: The Show – PS3 – 12 pts – 1 vote
Official Game Site

Jamescobo: You basically just have to learn to love the difficulty. It's like Demon's Souls with pitchers instead of giant spiders.

NYT Review

Polyphonic: I'm sure it's fun if you're good at it, but I never figured out how to hit. :(

The Noob Guide to Hitting

JeffLevine: I guess this is the Gran Turismo of baseball games? Hitting is quite the challenge - I already appreciate the practice mode. Developing patience seems important. I'm not totally sold on the betting mini-game before each pitch. The extra hint helps, so it's hard not to take advantage of it, but it's the one aspect that feels less sim. 09 looks so good in the standard batting view and in any long or medium shot, but some of the close-up stuff can look pretty monstrous and strange. If they can't get it right, maybe they should take out those close-up views from the next game. All the cut scenes give it a very relaxing TV broadcast like feel, but I feel a little bit like it makes things too slow and/or I have to hit X too often to skip thorough that stuff. I don't know how pitching could be better.

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 03:35 (nine years ago) link

#56: Saint’s Row 2 – PC – 13 pts – 1 vote
Official Game Site

Antexit: The crappy graphics engine looks decrepit after GTA IV but this is a way more fun place to just be in. I turn it on to fuck around and play side missions for a half-hour, which I never do with GTA IV. It's not quite as mean as the first one just because it's SO RETARDEDLY SILLY. You’ll be rescuing your friend in the middle of a trial and when you start to kill the security guards, the judge rushes out with a pump-action shotgun. There’s ‘cop missions’ where you’re told "These factory workers are protesting unsafe working conditions! Take this chainsaw and go kill them!"

Webinar: It’s quite a nasty and hateful game and it has less charm or beauty than GTA IV but there is LOADS to do and see in this game; lots of unlockables spread out really evenly, so there’s a nice feeling of progression. Unfortunately the engine looks the same as the prior game and it is creaky as all hell, seriously last gen and buggy. Worst of all are the game crashes, which come randomly and often; I've had six in twenty hours of play. I find it so hard to recommend this game because it's just flat out broken. I've had players disappear, cars disappear, people and cars fall out of the sky, you name it... but despite all this it is very addictive and very fun and very recommended!

Stevie: I always felt Saints Row felt like playing with crappy action figures that weren't even as well painted, detailed or articulated as GI Joes. SR 1 actually bummed me out when I played it; it seemed nasty in a way that GTA rarely deigned to be. I missed whatever surface morality lingered in the game; in Saint's Row, your character seemed like one of the NPCs in a GTA game that you were suggested to find faintly reprehensible.

Polyphonic: It's really weird to hear people complain about this game's morality. I can't tell you how many times I've murdered some poor random stranger in GTA in the most heartless, evil way. What makes this any worse? In Saint’s Row 2, I made an obese Latina protagonist, dressed her in granny panties and an ill-fitting bra and turned on a lot of cheats. I made it so that it rained people then turned on the cheat that made bodies ascend to heaven once they died, so what you get is a continuous hail of people splatting to the ground and then immediately rising back up into the sky. This game is bizarre, cheaply made and hilarious.

Euler: Fucking awesome! The missions are actually fun instead of as gritty and difficult as GTA IV. So far (and I'm just a few hours in) it has been hard to die… unlike in GTA IV where I have to try the same boring mission twenty times cause I keep getting killed.

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 03:45 (nine years ago) link

We'll get to 52 tomorrow and march interminably to the top 50. GODDAMN this is more work than I thought it would be. Remind me next year to just do a top fifty.

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 03:48 (nine years ago) link

I almost felt a little bad for voting for SR2 since it did make #35 last year, but it's still pretty underlooked - probably because the first one was supposedly pretty awful (never played it), and because at release it was horribly buggy. And the PC release was in January so it technically just made it eligible. But damn it, I just had to - it was just so ridiculous and fun.

From a design standpoint it was miles over the GTAs for not hassling you with stupid stuff like garage management or losing your ammnunition on death and telling you from the very beginning where 90% of the wacky side missions were - it even encouraged you to do those over the main story missions, which were very leisurely paced, and you had a good degree of choice about what order to take them in. Compared to GTA where you're generally railroaded into a path, and then you're kind of either goofing around and ignoring the plot or you aren't, this game was a lot better about mixing it up.

Nhex, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 04:32 (nine years ago) link

lol sum1 else voted for suikoden tierkreis and it still didnt make the top 50!

Lamp, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 04:34 (nine years ago) link

what the hell, nobody else voted for The Show? that shit is amazing.

/no cobo (jamescobo), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 05:33 (nine years ago) link

'cozwen'? tht's worse than the kids on xbl tht call me conezy

cozen, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 08:51 (nine years ago) link

forks, conezy's gonna let u finish but MW2 is one of the best games of all time

antexit, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 12:44 (nine years ago) link

Is there a Cozen and Cozwen on here? Or are my eyes going bad with age?
Cozen, let me know where you're misattributed and I'll fix.

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 14:02 (nine years ago) link

nah it's fine I'm just grousing; don't really follow ilx polls but sterling effort here john

cozen, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:25 (nine years ago) link

quit frontin

bnw, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:33 (nine years ago) link

hey somebody remembered their old password

Nhex, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:53 (nine years ago) link

Aw, no update today?

JimD, Thursday, 4 February 2010 11:35 (nine years ago) link

Two way tie for #54.

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 4 February 2010 17:42 (nine years ago) link

#54: Fallout 3: Broken Steel – 360 – 15 pts – 1 vote
Official Game Site


Jordan: Broken Steel adds a "Puppies!" perk so that if your dog gets killed you can just grab a new one from the litter.

Ars Technica Review

Goole: BS raises the level cap to thirty and extends the main story. If you're gonna get only one bit of DLC for Fallout, I'd get this one.

MH: I'm amazed by the power of the Tesla Cannon; it completely sucks in a close-quarters firefight but if your character stats are reasonably high, you can pick off Enclave guys from what seems like a half mile away.

CraigG : Fallout was the game I played most in '09, but it's an '08 game. Hooray, then, for the DLC. Broken Steel was a good, tight bunch of missions with a fairly linear story line which would normally be a bad thing, but I think it's exactly what the DLC needed to be. I think it was made all the more enjoyable because it raised the level cap, so your character was leveling up, plus you are killing so much enclave that you just keep filling your pockets with great armor and guns. I did have a few embarrassing moments though where I would be repairing my armor with some newly acquired armor and end up with my dude running about in his pants for a while accidentally, but I think that's a Fallout staple. My only criticism of this expansion was the albino radscorpions.

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 4 February 2010 17:45 (nine years ago) link

#54: Madworld – Wii – 15 pts – 1 vote
Official Game Site


Designing for the Wii remote

Jamescobo: It reminds me of both Jet Grind Radio (though way more violent -- it's pretty much more violent than everything) but with same use of directional input and, of course, God Hand (the slightly clunky tank controls, the camera woes, the basic design principle of advancing by wrecking everyone's shit). Admittedly MadWorld's kill-motherfuckers-creatively mechanic isn't anywhere near as deep as God Hand's seizure-inducingly deep combo system, but it's plenty of fun in its own right. My only complaint is that I keep accidentally pressing the pause button while I'm wildly gesticulating with the Wiimote, but I guess it's not fair to hold game designers accountable for my spazziness. Think of this as No More Heroes without all the "LOL, production values" shit or God Hand for people who thought it was too hard and with all the in-jokey stuff replaced with an immediately accessible aesthetic.

Zero Punctuation Review

Only twelve bucks!

”Sega sticks by Mature Wii releases"

Jeff LeVine: My major complaints: while the black and white artwork looks really good, it doesn't serve the gameplay. It's hard to see the tires and signposts and spiked walls you need to kill guys with to rack up the points because of the monochromatic color scheme. The 3D movement and camera is awkward. The Wii motion controls are lame; as in No More Heroes, the movement choices just feel arbitrary and don't immerse you any more into the game than standard button presses would, but are more unpleasant and harder to remember than just pressing buttons.

"More Madworld in Wii’s future"

Jjjusten: I make no attempt to hide how angry a Wii owner I am. I'm one of those guys that look at this particular console with a little more bile rising in my throat every week that a new fitness program or pet management simulator falls like a turd onto the new release list. So when MadWorld rolled out, I was very glad to see it. The game has its faults: there are times where the wiimote works against you rather than for you; songs are AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL and the game is SHORT. All those caveats fall away the first time you impale someone with a signpost, necklace them with a tire, jam firecrackers down their throat and THEN bisect them by slamming their body in a dumpster. Boss battles are even more insane. Anybody who whines like a baby about the lack of hardcore games on the wii that didn't buy this is a jerk and a traitor and I hope they realize that I will hold them directly responsible when "Wii Play Tamagochi Fitness 3" sells 40 billion copies.

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 4 February 2010 17:48 (nine years ago) link

to this day, I have MadWorld envy

PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! (HI DERE), Thursday, 4 February 2010 17:50 (nine years ago) link

Two way tie for #52.

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 4 February 2010 17:51 (nine years ago) link

#52: Big Word Puzzle Book – DS – 15 pts – 2 votes
Official Game Site

Forksclovetofu: This game is as good an argument for importing/R4 for US DS players as you’re likely to find. It’s also woefully under served on the web; even Metacritic doesn’t list it. So here’s the skinny: BWPB is eight word games bundled in a fairly simple but spectacularly effective package. There’s hangman, find-a-word, several variations on coded crossword puzzles, a solitaire game that’s a lot like Wordjong and the game’s true killer app: “guess what word the DS is thinking of” which I’ll talk about more in a second.
There’s running statistics to show how well you’ve done on each of the game’s four difficulty levels (expert is a bitch almost every time) and when you beat a game, you get a hint chit that can be used to get an in-game clue. Every win also scrolls through a list of the game’s dictionary words, reeling the entire English language backwards from Z to A. I’m on “wrangles” now; the game offers multiple saves so that multiple users can compete for most playtime wins.
Back to “guess the word” here: you touch type in a word, any English language word. The game pushes the word to the top of the screen (signifying that the word the DS is guessing is alphabetically following the word you’ve typed) or to the bottom (the word the DS is guessing falls alphabetically before). The next word gives you a proscribed range. So let’s say you start with “manic” and follow up with “zygote”. Okay, now you know the word falls alphabetically between “MA” and “ZY”. “Rabbit”? Okay, between “manic” and “rabbit”. And so on. The goal is to guess in as few tries as possible, but more often you’ll be happy just to figure out the secret. As origin, origins, originally, originator, originate, originates, origination and so forth are all read as different words, the endgame can be maddening… but the sense of accomplishment is great when you nail it.
On separate occasions, I played BWPB with small children on easy, my girlfriend’s seventy-year old parents, through a three hour plane trip, at dinner parties and in the hospital. It’s the perfect swiss army knife of a time waster for groups or for single play. It’s nothing spectacular but it the few things it does, it does incredibly well.

Jamescobo: Every time anyone bashes the majestic and unassailable Big Word Puzzle Book, I resolve to send in another socko C&P ballot with it at #1.

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 4 February 2010 17:52 (nine years ago) link

#52: Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes – DS – 15 pts – 2 votes
Official Game Site


Developer Interview

Forksclovetofu: Capy, makers of this year’s underrated Critter Crunch, brought most of the same gameplay and approach to the new DS Might and Magic, turning what anyone might rightly assume to be a Puzzle Quest or dungeon crawl clone into something unique, complex and engaging. The gameplay can occasionally get frustrating but the surprisingly deep RPG elements and brief “battles” keep new characters and challenges incoming.

Nathan Vella Interview

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 4 February 2010 17:54 (nine years ago) link


Jake Gyllenhaal needs more juggalo in it (jjjusten), Thursday, 4 February 2010 17:56 (nine years ago) link

ugh my computer just hates this thread, no matter what browser i use. forks can i respectfully request that the next ones be not so flash-heavy? as it's pretty much unusable for me.

brews before HOOS (s1ocki), Thursday, 4 February 2010 18:12 (nine years ago) link

We're moving here tomorrow S1ocks:
The Third Annual Coint and Plick Poll: ILG’s Best Video Games of 2009 - Part Three: #51 through #21
I didn't intentionally add any flash? Is it maybe the youtubes?

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 4 February 2010 18:13 (nine years ago) link

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