Red Dead Redemption

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAvyU-kHKyg

high hopes for this

I was looking forward to it before, but after the trailer it has probably become my most anticipated game of 2010.

I'm a sucker for games set in the Old West but there aren't many of them, and usually they're a bit of a letdown, but this looks great.

This interests me way more than any GTA ever did. Setting makes such a huge difference.

The trailer looks great! From its looks it'll be somewhat more RPG-y than GTAs have been; I'm thinking of the scenes killing bears, though maybe those are just parts of quests rather than RPG random encounters.

(xpost) seems also there's more emphasis on strategy and planning your next move in RDR, whereas with GTA it's often "get in car, cause chaos, get back to the garage before the cops catch you"

wow looks awesome

looks dope, like deadwood: the game in parts. too bad i don't generally have time for open-ended sandbox epics.

woah wasn't even on my radar before I watched that, def anticipating it now

okay i will admit, that is a REALLY GOOD trailer. seems to be really inspired by The Wild Bunch which is pretty cool.

how is this related to Red Dead Revolver? direct sequel? not really?

No relation except for the name and western setting (from what I understand).

Pretty sure I am going to play this until my fingers fall off.

i think it has the quick-time red-dead aiming device, too

That video actually reminds me of fallout 3 in lots of ways.

(xpost) "Dead Eye Targeting System"

Looks like gta out west basically , which is ok by me.

I missed that there was an excellent, new trailer going over weapons and death...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj_cKIMrkUY

still don't have ps3 or xbox but God I loved Red Dead Redemption

Revolver I mean

you are a good man, that game is so much fun.

this better not suck

this looks pretty good! beautiful even. let me get real here, those horses' asses looked impressive.

but i hope there is more going on w/ the gameplay than an old west GTA

being able to set buildings on fire looks boss; I just hope it's not merely something the designer has to specially trigger, but that you can just chuck a fire bottle at any barn you like and poof.

I'd be very surprised if you could actually set buildings on fire. In that video the molotov cocktail looks like an animation that'll burn out over time. But that would be AWESOME.

It would be awesome! This is one of the things that bugs me about playing for mass destruction in GTA: you can blow up cars but you can't reconfigure the city, which seems so un-sandbox-like (like, isn't the point of a sandbox to kick over your siblings' castles?)

Yeah, environment destruction is like the holy grail of sandbox games. Especially if it stayed like that and effected gameplay in the future, the way it (apparently) does in Battlefield. I remember some BS about gta4 saying something to that effect was in it. You can go into every building and you can blow up buildings and when you shoot a building the bullethole stays for 100 yrs and also it is a fun game

also u sound like the meanest brother ever fwiw

haha well when my kids play in sandboxes, they each build castles and then kick each others' over; it's not what I'd do but it seems to be lots of fun for them.

in Saints Row 2 you can blow up the subway train on the elevated tracks and if you hit it hard enough (I did it using cheats) it falls off the tracks and disrupts traffic. It's cool b/c it's a huge train, not just a bunch of cars like you can set up in GTA4. But leveling a building would be orders of magnitude more fun.

Red Dead Redemption would be a good place to try this b/c I expect the urban environments will be pretty sparse compared to e.g. Liberty City.

hopefully they'll turn their hand to another bully after this

antexit / Euler - a few points 1. Battlefield isn't a sandbox game. 2. in the last Red Faction game you could destroy pretty much everything (that was kind of the point of the game) and it stayed destroyed - but destroying stuff endlessly gets boring fast - it's hardly the "holy grail." 3. Permanent environmental destruction certainly will not be in Red Dead Redemption as they're using basically the exact same engine as GTA 4

well yeah destroying things endless does get boring fast, but so do sandbox games generally when all you do is mass destruction. The good sandbox games, like Bully, give you things to do that are fun besides just going nuts. But in an environment like Liberty City it'd be great if you could destroy buildings and then they'd be replaced with new ones, à la Sim City.

a little more new footage (in this ad for Gamestops lame pre-order bonus deal)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ9WUStl4vE

lol at 'realistic physics' that involve people flying backwards when they get shot

I thought people did fly backwards when they were shot with shotguns. Have movies, video games, and Luis Guzman in Carlito's Way led me astray?

I've shot a big stuffed animal with a shotgun from 50 yards away and man did that thing fly.

i think milo's point was that the silliness of people putting a lot of work into developing a realistic engine, and making it a selling point of the game, all for the ultimate goal of making people fly backwards when they get shot.

I just realised this game is probably going to have similar online modes to GTA4

0_o awesome

considering a PS3 just for this

^^^

the MP lobby... is the game world

"Seriously, who'd have thought that something as dry as a game lobby could be exciting? Leave it to Rockstar to prove us all wrong. The Grand Theft Auto developer recently unveiled the oft rumoured but never confirmed, multiplayer portion of its next open-world saga, Red Dead Redemption -- and the lobby might be the game's most exciting element. Why? Because it's practically a Wild West MMORPG.

The lobby is a fully playable version of the entire game world that's populated with both random CPU characters and live gamers -- though the numbers will never approach World of Warcraft levels. In our visit, we created a "posse" with friends and roamed freely about the map, engaging in activities from hunting wild animals to hunting other gamers. There are even ad hoc missions (like besieging a desert ranch filled with bandits) that feel a lot like raids. Whether running from the sheriff or shooting wildlife in the desert, everything we do can net us experience points which are used to customize our appearance and upgrade our horse, weapons, and "title". There are also new multiplayer modes to unlock like the standard 16-player deathmatch and a team-based "capture the bag" (both of which start with a spectacular face-to-face quick-draw duel). But. to be honest, we didn't spend a lot of time with those other modes, because we couldn't pry ourselves away from the lobby!"

Picture 1: Two players on a horse-drawn carriage. "The lobby is like a limit-free version of GTA IV's free roam mode set against a brilliantly atmospheric Wild West backdrop."

Picture 2: Player as Sheriff, points gun at camera; another player waits to shot him in the back. "Once we joined a party-- er, "posse" -- we were in constant communication with teammates."

Picture 3: 3 on 5 Gunfight near the wreckage of an abandoned church in the desert. "Anyone can travel to any point on the map (including building interiors), regardless of the location of lobby visitors."

This game is going to pwn my life

This game is going to give meaning to my life.

This game probably won't affect my life much but I'm looking forward to it.

chances of me not going outlaw immediately upon starting this approx 0%, with rounding. the old west is not the kinda place to be a good guy imo.

I always play moral choice games as a good guy with a cruel streak.

I am officially mega-psyched about this game

this looks a lot better than call of juarez 2. wish i had a ps3.

Why do people keep saying ps3? Is this an exclusive? Do third-party exclusives still exist?

Def not an exclusive. I'm already preordered for the 360.

uh i just picked that up in this thread somehow, you're right obviously and i need coffee. good news!

I think I'm about 75-80% done. seems like such a slog to get through the rest...maybe I should just start playing last of us?

have you finished the main story?

no

You should probably do that, unless the story hasn't gripped you at all. It has a pretty well executed conclusion.

Heh.

Ok

couple of different ways it could end, but "well executed" can apply to any of 'em, one way or the other.

Vaguely intrigued

i thought i was basically done with this game and then "EPILOGUE: PART I" popped up. i genuinely laughed out loud

not really enjoying "nagging wife simulator 2018" that much so far though

Haha, yeah that first bit when you're just doing farm chores is a bit of a drag but it does get better.

I guess the main purpose, given how the main story concludes, is that it lets you continue playing to complete any outstanding tasks, challenges, rock paintings etc if you so wish

I'll take the nagging wife simulator over the know-it-all uncle MCM though

Isn't the gist of it thematic, setting things up for the Godfather III-like "just when I thought I was out ..." shift?

i was going to spoiler tag this but but the game is five years old so just uh beware spoilers

does the "epilogue" part of the game really open up the full map from RDR1? or just part of it? it's been so long since i played it but i recognize some of the landmarks for sure

i guess it's just part, since there's no mexico

I tried again the other night to heroically trudge on to the main story conclusion. I think I’m on chapter 6 now. We’re looking for new land because Dutch is a dumb fuck so we take a canoe to a dimly lit wood and I have to choose between using dynamite to flush out the bad people from their cave hideout or use stealth. I choose dynamite. I’m trying to move the damn character to the area where the dynamite has appeared as an item to interact with. I guess I get close? Then I’m throwing the dynamite and suddenly I’m in the cave somehow, and there’s a lady screaming and people shooting at me. I start to mash all the controller buttons together while turning the character around and jumping because I still cannot remember the mappings.

Apparently parts of Mexico are there but you have to use a glitch to get those parts of the map xp

I'm the white dot!

Red Dead Redemption

Reportedly "Red Dead Redemption" was just given a rating in South Korea, implying a remaster or remake is on its way.

https://www.gematsu.com/2023/06/red-dead-redemption-rated-in-korea-in-2023

That would be decent, and long overdue. The undead nightmare dlc was brilliant.

I’m going to need a PS5 version of RDR2 running at a consistent 60fps first. (And thus marks my first ILG post, I think?)

People a talkin' about a new logo just introduced at Rockstar for "Red Dead Redemption" ...

That's pretty cool - never played it and dove into RDR2 first, which as a prequel, makes playing RDR1 remastered a "sequel" of sorts that will slot in perfectly once it's out.

I've got a huge backlog of games great and small, but even though I can't imagine a remaster/remake is particularly imminent, if it dropped tomorrow it would be at the top of my queue.

Allowing Morgan to be able to swim, but not Marston since he wasn't able to in RDR1, was both trolling and a brilliant move at keeping continuity.

Though I sure hope the GTA6 characters can swim in Vice City.

lol it looks like Rockstar is pulling a Nintendo, releasing a straight port of the 13-year old Red Dead Redemption to PS4 and Switch for a very contemporary $50. It includes the Undead Nightmare DLC and ... that's it. No remaster, no remake, no 60fps, etc.

You mean PS5?

No! It's being released for Switch and *PS4*! Which of course can play it, but I mean, a 13-year old game getting belatedly re-released for ... the previous console generation that's not even being made anymore?

Saw a comment that it may be cheaper to buy an old PS3 and a copy of the game.

grimly amusing that the reason it's not being released for the current-gen xboxes is because microsoft's backward compatibility / fps boost feature means that rdr already runs at 4k there if you have a copy of the 360 version

meanwhile rockstar/take two are trying to squeeze 50 bucks out of everyone else for a 'remaster' that's at best gonna be exactly what xbox owners get for free

good to see that the universally appalled reaction to their gta remasters hasn't soured them on the idea of money for old lassos

Was this even billed as a remaster? I could have sworn I saw that it was just a straight port!

And once again, Rockstar (no doubt busy with GTAVI) isn't even handling it themselves, they are outsourcing it. What could go wrong? Again?

i'd assume that since it's coming to ps4/5 there might be the possibility of running it at 4k which you might stretch the definition of remaster to encompass

but given their history of shocking laziness i guess it's entirely possible it'll top out at 720p

The demo looks very PS3 graphics wise

GTA 4 remains the game that rockstar doesn’t want anyone to play anymore

I'm bummed, because I was looking forward to it, but not for $50. Or $40. Or anything over, I dunno, $20. If RDR2 is (often) $20 and one of the most technologically accomplished games of all time, then no way am I paying more than that for a (last gen!) port of a very old game, unless it runs like a miracle or something. $50 is what you pay for, like, a boutique limited edition physical reissue.

I'm bummed because this was it. If there's ever a RDR3, they won't start producing it until 2030. I doubt they'll remaster RDR2 for the PS7 or whatever if they can't be bothered to do this one.

Hell, you already have half of the game's setting redone. How much longer would it take to scope out Mexico and make the horses gallop more lifelike?

And even if it took a bit of work to (literally) bring it up to speed, expand the map a bit, add some more connective tissue to the sequel/prequel, bump it to 60fps, etc., at least they could justify $50. But hell, they haven't even unlocked RDR2 to 60 fps. This is such low effort it's almost trolling.

Sounds like this port is perfectly fine, but as expected absolutely nothing more than that, a totally bare minimum effort, which is a bummer. Had they spiffed it up a bit I would have happily bought it at full price; I loved the second game and I've never played this one. But for $50, when a modern technological masterpiece like RDR2 can be purchased for $20, or The Last of Us Part 1 justifies its high price by offering a completely (re) polished current gen version? Sigh.

Really disappointed this wasn’t ported to PC, where at least modders could have brought it up to snuff and added new content.

Apparently they added 60fps and 4k to the PS5 version of Red Dead 1. Why didn't they have that shit ready at release just a few weeks ago?

wow crack that whip bossman. maybe because they were already worked to the bone under an unrealistic deadline???

guessing they prob did have it ready they just wanted to make sure the base version was running good before pushing it

so selfish!!

This is the bare-bones 2013 port we're talking about, which was all but surprise-dropped for Switch and PS4, priced at a shocking premium. If it was that close to being ready they should have just waited a month, it's not like it was part of some coordinated million dollar multi-month marketing campaign.

guessing they prob did have it ready they just wanted to make sure the base version was running good before pushing it

― lag∞n, Wednesday, October 4, 2023 9:32 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

That makes sense, I guess. Anyway, upgraded performance is certainly a greater incentive to get the game than it was before, though it's still way overpriced.

releases would go smoother if that was the general approach, turning on advanced tech on incrementally and then optimizing between steps, but they dont do that because it would be bad from a marketing perspective if they had to be all just wait a few months and the game will be better, of course they do often have to do that anyway when they ship broken shit

I honestly have no idea how much work it takes or doesn't take to unlock/increase the frame rate of a 13-year old game. Granted, this port wasn't even released for the PS5, just for the PS4 and Switch, so I guess a modest and slightly belated PS5-only upgrade by way of the PS4 version is an OK perk.

i think compared to most video game dev things is not that much work but running that stuff on your console is very resource intensive so theyd want to make sure they have it dialed

Saw someone say (think it was digital foudnry) the ps4 port seemed to be an afterthought for a switch original release based on performance. Makes sense of the timeline (and the fact that the ps4 was literally exactly the same as the switch at launch despite its ability to do higher resolution/other things with minimal technical work).

xp Tracer, I can see why you and gyac are friends

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I don’t know anything about this game but my history professor friend wrote a book about it https://read.macmillan.com/lp/red-deads-history/