Red Dead Redemption

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Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 03:52 (twelve years ago) link

high hopes for this

aarrissi-a-roni, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

I was looking forward to it before, but after the trailer it has probably become my most anticipated game of 2010.

Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

I'm a sucker for games set in the Old West but there aren't many of them, and usually they're a bit of a letdown, but this looks great.

HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

This interests me way more than any GTA ever did. Setting makes such a huge difference.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

The trailer looks great! From its looks it'll be somewhat more RPG-y than GTAs have been; I'm thinking of the scenes killing bears, though maybe those are just parts of quests rather than RPG random encounters.

Euler, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

(xpost) seems also there's more emphasis on strategy and planning your next move in RDR, whereas with GTA it's often "get in car, cause chaos, get back to the garage before the cops catch you"

HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

wow looks awesome

bnw, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

looks dope, like deadwood: the game in parts. too bad i don't generally have time for open-ended sandbox epics.

hey trader joe's! i've got the new steely dan. (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

woah wasn't even on my radar before I watched that, def anticipating it now

cozwn, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

okay i will admit, that is a REALLY GOOD trailer. seems to be really inspired by The Wild Bunch which is pretty cool.

how is this related to Red Dead Revolver? direct sequel? not really?

Nhex, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

No relation except for the name and western setting (from what I understand).

Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty sure I am going to play this until my fingers fall off.

real bears playing hockey (polyphonic), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

i think it has the quick-time red-dead aiming device, too

(I don't crap in public toilets) (stevie), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

That video actually reminds me of fallout 3 in lots of ways.

JimD, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 23:40 (twelve years ago) link

(xpost) "Dead Eye Targeting System"

HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 17 December 2009 09:25 (twelve years ago) link

Looks like gta out west basically , which is ok by me.

calstars, Monday, 28 December 2009 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

I missed that there was an excellent, new trailer going over weapons and death...

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

still don't have ps3 or xbox but God I loved Red Dead Redemption

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

Revolver I mean

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

you are a good man, that game is so much fun.

this better not suck

Jake Gyllenhaal needs more juggalo in it (jjjusten), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

this looks pretty good! beautiful even. let me get real here, those horses' asses looked impressive.

but i hope there is more going on w/ the gameplay than an old west GTA

goole, Thursday, 4 February 2010 01:21 (twelve years ago) link

being able to set buildings on fire looks boss; I just hope it's not merely something the designer has to specially trigger, but that you can just chuck a fire bottle at any barn you like and poof.

Euler, Thursday, 4 February 2010 08:40 (twelve years ago) link

I'd be very surprised if you could actually set buildings on fire. In that video the molotov cocktail looks like an animation that'll burn out over time. But that would be AWESOME.

antexit, Thursday, 4 February 2010 12:20 (twelve years ago) link

It would be awesome! This is one of the things that bugs me about playing for mass destruction in GTA: you can blow up cars but you can't reconfigure the city, which seems so un-sandbox-like (like, isn't the point of a sandbox to kick over your siblings' castles?)

Euler, Thursday, 4 February 2010 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, environment destruction is like the holy grail of sandbox games. Especially if it stayed like that and effected gameplay in the future, the way it (apparently) does in Battlefield. I remember some BS about gta4 saying something to that effect was in it. You can go into every building and you can blow up buildings and when you shoot a building the bullethole stays for 100 yrs and also it is a fun game

antexit, Thursday, 4 February 2010 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

also u sound like the meanest brother ever fwiw

antexit, Thursday, 4 February 2010 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

haha well when my kids play in sandboxes, they each build castles and then kick each others' over; it's not what I'd do but it seems to be lots of fun for them.

in Saints Row 2 you can blow up the subway train on the elevated tracks and if you hit it hard enough (I did it using cheats) it falls off the tracks and disrupts traffic. It's cool b/c it's a huge train, not just a bunch of cars like you can set up in GTA4. But leveling a building would be orders of magnitude more fun.

Red Dead Redemption would be a good place to try this b/c I expect the urban environments will be pretty sparse compared to e.g. Liberty City.

Euler, Thursday, 4 February 2010 13:36 (twelve years ago) link

hopefully they'll turn their hand to another bully after this

cozen, Thursday, 4 February 2010 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

antexit / Euler - a few points 1. Battlefield isn't a sandbox game. 2. in the last Red Faction game you could destroy pretty much everything (that was kind of the point of the game) and it stayed destroyed - but destroying stuff endlessly gets boring fast - it's hardly the "holy grail." 3. Permanent environmental destruction certainly will not be in Red Dead Redemption as they're using basically the exact same engine as GTA 4

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 4 February 2010 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

well yeah destroying things endless does get boring fast, but so do sandbox games generally when all you do is mass destruction. The good sandbox games, like Bully, give you things to do that are fun besides just going nuts. But in an environment like Liberty City it'd be great if you could destroy buildings and then they'd be replaced with new ones, à la Sim City.

Euler, Thursday, 4 February 2010 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

a little more new footage (in this ad for Gamestops lame pre-order bonus deal)...

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 4 February 2010 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

lol at 'realistic physics' that involve people flying backwards when they get shot

smashing aspirant (milo z), Thursday, 4 February 2010 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

I thought people did fly backwards when they were shot with shotguns. Have movies, video games, and Luis Guzman in Carlito's Way led me astray?

antexit, Saturday, 6 February 2010 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

I've shot a big stuffed animal with a shotgun from 50 yards away and man did that thing fly.

calstars, Saturday, 6 February 2010 13:54 (twelve years ago) link

i think milo's point was that the silliness of people putting a lot of work into developing a realistic engine, and making it a selling point of the game, all for the ultimate goal of making people fly backwards when they get shot.

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 8 February 2010 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

I just realised this game is probably going to have similar online modes to GTA4

0_o awesome

cozen, Saturday, 20 March 2010 11:32 (twelve years ago) link

considering a PS3 just for this

Thierry Ennui (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 March 2010 11:49 (twelve years ago) link


black jeans stained by (snoball), Saturday, 20 March 2010 12:17 (twelve years ago) link

the MP lobby... is the game world

"Seriously, who'd have thought that something as dry as a game lobby could be exciting? Leave it to Rockstar to prove us all wrong. The Grand Theft Auto developer recently unveiled the oft rumoured but never confirmed, multiplayer portion of its next open-world saga, Red Dead Redemption -- and the lobby might be the game's most exciting element. Why? Because it's practically a Wild West MMORPG.

The lobby is a fully playable version of the entire game world that's populated with both random CPU characters and live gamers -- though the numbers will never approach World of Warcraft levels. In our visit, we created a "posse" with friends and roamed freely about the map, engaging in activities from hunting wild animals to hunting other gamers. There are even ad hoc missions (like besieging a desert ranch filled with bandits) that feel a lot like raids. Whether running from the sheriff or shooting wildlife in the desert, everything we do can net us experience points which are used to customize our appearance and upgrade our horse, weapons, and "title". There are also new multiplayer modes to unlock like the standard 16-player deathmatch and a team-based "capture the bag" (both of which start with a spectacular face-to-face quick-draw duel). But. to be honest, we didn't spend a lot of time with those other modes, because we couldn't pry ourselves away from the lobby!"

Picture 1: Two players on a horse-drawn carriage. "The lobby is like a limit-free version of GTA IV's free roam mode set against a brilliantly atmospheric Wild West backdrop."

Picture 2: Player as Sheriff, points gun at camera; another player waits to shot him in the back. "Once we joined a party-- er, "posse" -- we were in constant communication with teammates."

Picture 3: 3 on 5 Gunfight near the wreckage of an abandoned church in the desert. "Anyone can travel to any point on the map (including building interiors), regardless of the location of lobby visitors."

cozen, Sunday, 28 March 2010 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

This game is going to pwn my life

antexit, Sunday, 28 March 2010 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

This game is going to give meaning to my life.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Sunday, 28 March 2010 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

This game probably won't affect my life much but I'm looking forward to it.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 28 March 2010 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

chances of me not going outlaw immediately upon starting this approx 0%, with rounding. the old west is not the kinda place to be a good guy imo.

aarrissi-a-roni, Sunday, 28 March 2010 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

I always play moral choice games as a good guy with a cruel streak.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Sunday, 28 March 2010 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

I am officially mega-psyched about this game

antexit, Monday, 29 March 2010 12:17 (twelve years ago) link

this looks a lot better than call of juarez 2. wish i had a ps3.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 29 March 2010 12:34 (twelve years ago) link

Why do people keep saying ps3? Is this an exclusive? Do third-party exclusives still exist?

antexit, Monday, 29 March 2010 12:53 (twelve years ago) link

Def not an exclusive. I'm already preordered for the 360.

Mordy, Monday, 29 March 2010 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

uh i just picked that up in this thread somehow, you're right obviously and i need coffee. good news!

sonderangerbot, Monday, 29 March 2010 13:04 (twelve years ago) link

by the time I get around to gta5 games will be holograms implanted into our brains. but the brain chip shortage will mean I miss that generation, too.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 September 2021 21:28 (one year ago) link

I found GTA5 really quite difficult from the start. Had to have several goes at even the first mission.

I don't think I could in good conscience give RDR2 an A+. It is flawed throughout, it is incredible throughout. But it is just a bit below Witcher 3, Death Stranding and probably Control in terms of games I've played through on PS4 so far.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:27 (one year ago) link

I suppose from my vantage I just don't see how the graphics, characters, story or music could be any better, and that's what drove me and kept me engaged. Sure, some of the actual gameplay got a little repetitive, but I found that gameplay a means to a narrative end. I also never stopped getting surprised by cool stuff, whether ambushes (like the people that lured me into a pit) or getting attacked by animals or just pleasant diversions and fun tasks/exploration. And I suspect I barely scratched the surface of that stuff, too. Last, factor in that as easy as the game is, I also never really tried that *hard*. If I wanted to I could have made it much more challenging for myself.

I do have copies of Witcher 3 and Control to get to at some point, which I'm looking forward to (next year some time, at this rate). Death Stranding unfortunately looks totally unappealing to me, which is weirdly welcome, given my backlog.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:50 (one year ago) link

The opening loading screen daguerreotypes (?) are beautiful

calstars, Sunday, 26 September 2021 20:54 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

I just started to play this a few weeks ago. Still on Chapter 2, taking my time.

I think I've sold Seamus one stagecoach so far. Been going up and down to meet the trapper in the woods. Been up and down the coast, from Annsburg to St. Denis. Went to Strawberry the other night. Again, the only town I've "officially" gone to is Valentine.

I don't want to have too much spoiled, but yet, I don't want to walk through this game blindly either. I know Valentine gets locked down at some point, so if I want to rob that doctor's office, I should do it soon. I also know that the lead POV changes at some point. How and why that happens, I'm still blissfully unaware.

I don't particularly feel like robbing everyone? I see those plumes of smoke like everyone else, but I'm content to hunting. If someone tries to start some shit, sure, I'll take care of it and loot the bodies. I'm really bad at doing anything when there's more than one O'Driscoll involved. It's like a nightmare when they show up and start yelling at me, when all I was doing was riding around, picking Yarrow. Haven't won one of those encounters yet.

Which is weird, because I was really good at picking off the bad guys in GTA-5. Do these 19th century characters have more innocence than the gangsters and cops of Los Santos? I kinda worried about that in myself -- why the modern NPCs were more dispensable. Saying it out loud, was because they were little black characters running around, calling me a bitch if I didn't shoot?

The other night, I came across two guys trying to blow open a safe. I waited until they got something done, and then I blasted them. And then I legitimately felt kinda bad when I realized they were African American. I don't need to be going back to 1899 and killing people already struggling.

Yeah, I'm reading too much into it. Blame Charles. He's the one who taught me to hunt in the first place.

pplains, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 02:00 (three months ago) link

Saw a man get hanged in Valentine, and his soon-to-be widow was wailing. I mean, fuck, I appreciate the realism, and I also appreciate Rockstar going, "Oh, so you thought this was a GAME, didya?"

But damn.

pplains, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 02:04 (three months ago) link

I loved this game, and it's one of the few of its type I totally plan to play again.

From memory, I want to say this one is OK to tackle blind (I think I did?). There's stuff you'll miss, but you'll still be channeled to all the important stuff and have a lot of chances to do stuff you missed, and regardless, there is soooo much to discover (fun stuff, funny stuff, weird stuff) on your own. In terms of robbin' and killin', I think it gives you a good deal of leeway how you want to play it. You'll have opportunities to help people, if you want, or you can be a jerk, if you want (though you don't want too many bounty hunters after you, and starting shit in towns is typically asking for trouble). Of course, as you already suspect, this game is pointing you in a particular (and particularly complex) moral direction, enhanced by the excellent characters and writing. I recall the game having some sort of goodness/morality meter, but I can't remember if it had any real effect.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 12:17 (three months ago) link

Oh, also, the NPC dialogue is this game, just random man or woman on the street stuff, is so rich and detailed and full of personality. I don't think I ever got bored, because I was constantly hearing or seeing new things.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 12:50 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Played this a couple times this week after a two year hiatus. Good game

calstars, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:16 (three months ago) link

28.9% or something

calstars, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:17 (three months ago) link

I've had nights like that "Quiet Time" mission. Trying to avoid guy in bowler hat, standing rigid on the stairs, except in IRL, guy usually turns out to be a coat rack or something.

pplains, Friday, 24 June 2022 03:32 (three months ago) link

lol what

calstars, Friday, 24 June 2022 03:38 (three months ago) link

The mission where all you do is get wasted, lose your friend Lenny, piss all over the backyard, everyone becomes Lenny, and oh yeah, there's some overgrown leprechaun in a bowler hat trying to start shit.

I think I'm playing the same game as the rest of you.

pplains, Friday, 24 June 2022 12:55 (three months ago) link

ah right

calstars, Friday, 24 June 2022 13:32 (three months ago) link

I... I would really like to learn in this game how to shoot wolves, O'Driscolls, innocent witnesses... with my guns.

The bullets just seem to make everyone angrier.

pplains, Friday, 24 June 2022 14:11 (three months ago) link

hold down L2 while turning R3 in a clockwise direction. Then press A and down on the arrow pad

calstars, Friday, 24 June 2022 16:13 (three months ago) link

Don’t forget - you must be standing in a river on a new moon as well

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:40 (three months ago) link

St Denjs at night is prettty
Visited the fence and sold all the rings and jewelry I had accumulated

calstars, Sunday, 26 June 2022 11:50 (three months ago) link

MICAH: You're a small tree with a large shadow!

ARTHUR: I don't even know what that means.

pplains, Sunday, 26 June 2022 16:55 (three months ago) link

I went through a Groundhog's Day of annoyance last night.

Grabbed a bounty for former Confederate Lindsey Wofford, holed up in a fort up north from Saint Denis. Rode out there, arriving around two in the morning. Trying to sneak around for some recon, but Arthur's whistling?

Then I realize there's a camp right by the riverbank, in full view of the fort. It's my old buddy William! I bet he's going to ask me to go pick a bunch of herbs that I've already got a million of in my satchel. Well, ok, the fort can wait.

In the distance, gunshots. What, is the sharpshooter guy out here too in the middle of the night?

William asks for some currant. Shit, William. I've been grabbing currant left and right ever since Kieran asked for some too. I hand it over. He gives me a bottle of miracle tonic. We affirm our friendship. I wander back to my horse and hop on.

WANTED! HORSE THIEVERY! What? Oh, shit. My bad! Jumped on the wrong damn horse! My horse is right over there and they both look very much – Fuck! William comes at me with a knife, cursing me. IT WAS A MISTAKE, WILLIAM. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW COMMON THIS IS? I DRIVE A BLACK HONDA CRV IRL. LIKE, EVERY TRIP TO KROGER!

William's not listening to me. This is either not going to end well or it's not going to end well. Even if I get away from him without killing him, or being killed myself, I doubt we're ever going to shoot the shit over Orelander Sage again. I make the decision to load the previous game back in. Before I do, I tie up William and loot his camp. For what it's worth if you've ever wondered, he's got some more tonic in the horse satchel and a can of peaches.

Load game... I'm up north from Saint Denis. It's dark, around two in the morning. There's the glow from a camp by the river. In the distance, gunshots.

Hey, it's William! Howya doin', old friend? He calls me "Traveler" which I like. Currant? Pfffft. My pockets are full of currant. Anything for you, William. Or can I call you Bill?

I head up to the fort. How they haven't heard me and William carrying on just down the hill, I have no clue. I call out Lindsey Wofford. He makes some peacock speech about sovereign rights, and then his boys start shooting. First time I see a gatling gun in the game, and it stings!

My personal mission is take Lindsey alive back to Saint Denis. The reward's the same either way, but if he's dropped off alive, there's apparently a whole cut scene of him being hanged at a public execution. Neat! Bringing back the body, eh, toss him in the dumpster.

Well you know these types. They don't want to go alive. So without even really trying, I kill the guy. I ponder this for a few moments. No, I want to take this guy downtown, let him enjoy the view of my horse's ass the whole way.

So I quit and load the game. I'm way north of Saint Denis in the middle of the night. Dammit, there's William again. Why didn't I save this after I had my meet-up with him?

In the distance, gunshots. A woman screams. OK, this doesn't sound like the sharpshooter. "They killed him!" I ride past a bewildered William to find a man dead in the road next to his two horses and overturned stagecoach. Two of the ugliest hillbillies are making the worst conversation with each other as they carry off a hogtied woman. I open fire.

The hillbillies are dead, but I can't find the woman. There she is in some bushes. It's very dark out here! I pick her up to carry her out to the road. She's obviously in distress and wants to be put down.

The only option the controller gives me is DROP. "Kinda rough with me, aren't ya?"

I untie her, she tells me her whole sad story and wants to be given a ride to Van Horn. Sheesh, I'd be happy to do so even though it's way out of my way and – well, hold on. She gets on my horse and I ride the 100 yards over to William's to go through that whole currant routine again. Except he's gone, leaving everything including his fire unattended. Smart man, that William.

"This doesn't seem to be the right way to Van Horn!" my backseat driver tells me. OK, screw this. Load game...

It'sthemiddleofthenightinthewoodsnorthofSaintDenis. I try to circle around to William's post without spawning the whole disturbing hillbilly hostage event. Just as I come up to him from the north, there's a gunshot, and William goes, "Hey, friend! Been awhile!" Ok, maybe he aborted the whole hostage thing by beginning his spiel with me.

I take his miracle tonic, go up the road, and there's the two horses. Nothing but tracks anywhere else.

This isn't a good sign. I go up to the fort and go through several different variations of getting tore open by the gatling gun or killing Lindsey Wofford. The times that I do walk across the little bridge to his hideout, throwing my lasso around like I'm Will Rogers, well, even I have to chuckle at how ridiculous this is. Just how badly do I want to see a public hanging anyway, even of this proud soldier of the once-great Southern Army?

At one point, I start snooping around the fort, looking for gold and a certain kind of gun in the basement. All this while racist NPCs are still shooting at me. Clearly, I'm a little shell shocked.

Load game... certainly, I saved it after my last William encounter, right? Or did I? I'm in the woods north of Saint Denis in the middle of the night. William isn't there. No screams or gunshots.

Just the fort up ahead, where at this point, we're all just daring each other to kill us again.

pplains, Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:10 (two months ago) link

“I’ve got a secret…”
“You’re secretly normal?”

calstars, Sunday, 10 July 2022 19:21 (two months ago) link

Finished the main missions and epilogue. Still got 15% more to go.

pplains, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 03:07 (two months ago) link

Kinda taken off guard when the three characters got caught in a freeze-frame during a group high-five and "In the City" by Joe Walsh came on.

pplains, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 03:08 (two months ago) link

There was all sorts of stuff I heard about but never experienced, like the supernatural stuff and the like.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 03:26 (two months ago) link

"My people... need peace. We cannot afford to wage a war we cannot win. Our spirit... HEY, WATCH IT! YOUR HORSE BUMPED INTO MINE! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? NOW GET BACK UP HERE, YOU'RE TAKING TOO LONG! What was I saying again? Oh, yes. Our spirit can only remain strong if..."

pplains, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 15:04 (two months ago) link

*horse smacks into a tree and Arthur is thrown 20 feet*

calstars, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 17:55 (two months ago) link

All it does is rain now. If it wasn't for the fact that I've already seen how this guy dies, I'd say he's going to die from pneumonia.

(Along those lines, I slow walk through Armadillo whenever I'm there, knowing full-well that I'm somehow immune to cholera.)

I've collected a set of cigarette cards. I've found all the bones and dreamcatchers. Don't know what to do now except go look for Bigfoot.

pplains, Monday, 1 August 2022 12:58 (two months ago) link

Run into Pearson at the Rhodes General Store.

"Marston! You're alive! How are ya! Yeah, here I am. Lot better than that old butcher's table!"

*Five minutes later*

"So you gonna buy something?"

^^ My life in a nutshell, living in the same town from where I graduated high school.

pplains, Monday, 1 August 2022 13:04 (two months ago) link

There is definitely a Bigfoot reference in this game (RDR2).

Man, I hope they give this one a PS5 polish to convince me to play it again. I'll probably end up playing it again sometime anyway.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 August 2022 14:04 (two months ago) link

I think the way I’m meant to play this is just to go from bar to bar in the different towns, drinking and smoking all day and stealing when the money runs out

calstars, Monday, 1 August 2022 14:42 (two months ago) link

I think that's definitely *a* way to play, lol. There was a point in St. Denis where I had attracted so many police I wanted to see how long I could hold out and defend myself against/elude them, but they just kept coming and eventually I had to go out in a blaze of glory.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 August 2022 14:54 (two months ago) link

I have still yet to rob a stagecoach on my own. Nobody's given me reason to? Same thing with robbing the stores. The fact that my options when I saunter up to the trapper's tent is buy, sell, or AIM WEAPON is a little disheartening.

I have robbed from campsites, and not just from gang members either. Sometimes I'll mosey up, and the campers will tell me a little story about how you have to trust people in order to make the world a better place. Or, maybe how they're haunted every night by the faces of the Native Americans they imprisoned. Those folks can keep their canned peaches. But when someone tells me I better git and AIMS WEAPON at me, well. Those peaches sure taste good later on.

And oh, how I love the home robberies. It's just like browsing Zillow, except I get to open the drawers and closets. There have only been a couple of guys who have come from out of nowhere to admonish me. And while I'm smashing DEFUSE, they pull out their guns and AIM WEAPON. Dropped one guy, who fell right beside a grave next to his house. Almost too perfect.

For the most part, I don't want to cause too much trouble. Since the missions ended, I've only committed two acts of actual murder. I'd call them mercy killings, but I know what the law would say.

First one was the Englishman looking for Gavin. I was tired of this guy already when Arthur was alive, and when he showed back up on the streets of Blackwater seven years later with the same schtick, I knew something was going to have to happen. I got my chance up near Beaver Hollow. It was either going to be me or the Murfrees. So I tied him up and laid him out on the train track, just on the other side of Ambarino. While I watched him from the woods, he said something like "Well, I certainly don't like this!" and UNTIED HIMSELF. Shot him as he ran across the train bridge and watched as he fell into the ravine below. Passed his body on the way out.

Other guy was the old man in robes who's always standing in the water. Seven years of that is long enough. I roped his feet and drowned him. You could call either of those a mercy killing, but really, I was getting tired of hearing voices and thinking, Oooh, a new stranger to check out! Only to find it was one of those two.

(So of course in Rhodes last night, I hear "Gavin???" Maybe that's your supernatural content.)

pplains, Monday, 1 August 2022 16:13 (two months ago) link

I don't think you can ever find Gavin, tbh. I think if you kill the mad preacher in the river he comes back (!), dunno if that's a glitch or intentional.

And yeah, I pretty much shot anybody that pulled a gun on me first. Like, oh, so that's how you want it to be?! I felt the worst when I rescued someone from a cage on the back of a wagon, killed their captors, but then accidentally pointed my gun at the rescued person and scared them away. I wish there was a "no, wait, please come back!" button.

The supernatural stuff, iirc there is something about a vampire, a bit about ghosts, and also a UFO sighting, but a couple of the quests are pretty obscure and convoluted.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 August 2022 16:31 (two months ago) link

Yeah, I've read about the ghosts and vampires, how you have to time it just right and be in the area within a certain window. Nah, let that vampire come and find ME.

I felt the worst when I rescued someone from a cage on the back of a wagon, killed their captors, but then accidentally pointed my gun at the rescued person and scared them away.

Happened to me last night. Came across the Skinner Bros giving a woman a hard time after they had put an arrow through her husband's chest. Killed the Skinners, but instead of bringing up the GREET or ADMONISH choices as she was was kneeling over her husband's body, I aimed my rifle right at her head. This understandably did not improve a bad situation, so I restarted from my last save.

(If I find a nickel, I'm re-saving the game.)

pplains, Monday, 1 August 2022 16:47 (two months ago) link

Revisiting online lately (as well as gta too) and having a bit of fun with a mate. We got the collectors bag and just enjoying roaming around looking for stuff.

gta I've been spinning that wheel and winning bundles of cars!

Ste, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 15:45 (one month ago) link

I'm going to break down and buy that PS+ card at some point.

pplains, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:22 (one month ago) link

"Ah! It's good to see you again! That's a fine pelt you have there with you. Are you looking to sell?"

"Listen. It's time for you to answer a few questions. First of all, how are you always here in the market when I just saw you in the goddamm woods?"

"I don't buy from stores. Everything I sell is handmade –"

"Shut the fuck up! I fast travel from Strawberry to St. Denis, and you've somehow disassembled your camp, packed all your game, gotten here first and set everything back up again before I'm even back in town! What the hell is going on?"

"If you ever see a man near Rhodes –"

"And speaking of those bumfuck areas you set up camp in! I once built a fire 300 yards away from you and was set on by the Skinner Brothers within seconds. How do you sit alone up there and not get fucked with? By the Skinners, the Murfrees, or hell, even A BEAR."

"The new president is trying to turn the West into a theme park."

pplains, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 21:55 (one month ago) link

I've basically wrapped it up, around 93.7%. Just riding around, tying up a few loose ends.

And I'm still finding new stuff just out of nowhere. Strange statues. The guy who challenges me to a duel and then keels over dead before anything happens.

Stopped to admire the view from atop a mountain, look down, and there's a monk meditating on the edge of the cliff!

He was not responsive. Especially to John Moronston, who just kept going, "What are you doing?"

I know the guy is the face of the franchise, but man. His dumbfuck little scribbles in Arthur's notebook. How he can't ever remember what his name is supposed to be. My favorite is when I see a bonfire in the woods and bring my horse to a slow, stealty trot, the way Marston yelps, "HELLO?"

Anyway, last night I saw the guy who's the subject of this wiki tip:

• He cannot be looted since he is not wearing any clothes.

I wasn't planning on getting that close to him anyway.

pplains, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 13:23 (one month ago) link

Wow 90 percent
Maybe I’ll get there by 2025

calstars, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 14:17 (one month ago) link

I look at what's left, and it just doesn't light a fire under me to get them done.

For example, my next step in the horseman challenge is to drag someone 3,330 feet with the lasso. Went to Armadillo, found some poor sick person vomiting into a horse's trough and roped him up. He screamed in agony until finally dying around the 2,400-ft mark.

Just wasn't that fun, for obvious reasons. Even on the next three times I tried it.

pplains, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 14:21 (one month ago) link

i'm also in chapter 4, and it's a little disappointing because i totally explored this city a couple chapters ago. i really goofed off a ton during chapter 2, avoiding the story entirely. but i imagine that the chapter 4 stuff will let me interact with things a little more

― Karl Malone, Friday, November 23, 2018 10:46 PM

Alongthoselines, I saved the treasure maps for last. Kept getting ones that looked like places I had already explored.

ME: I've already been behind this waterfall. There was nothing there!

THE INTERNET: *look again!*

pplains, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 20:17 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Finally started this and loving it obviously (on Chapter 2)

Anyone got any advice on upgrades (camp or otherwise)? Like is there a satchel or saddle or whatever that you should really try and craft early on?

And do the ammunition ones make much difference? I've been doing just fine in shootouts so far without having bought any ammo, let alone crafted any special bullets

groovypanda, Monday, 12 September 2022 10:48 (three weeks ago) link

I don’t think it matters that much. The game makes shooting pretty easy. It doesn’t want to get you frustrated and rage quit …

calstars, Monday, 12 September 2022 11:59 (three weeks ago) link

I don't think ammo really matters. In terms of upgrades, I want to say focus on stuff that increases capacity. There are some good quality of life trinkets and talismans to aim for, too, though there's no hurry.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 September 2022 13:35 (three weeks ago) link

I found that I eventually had so much money that I upgraded everything just for the sake of spending it, so just prioritize what ever seems to make life easier for you in the start, because you’ll get everything else eventually.

blatherskite, Monday, 12 September 2022 15:04 (three weeks ago) link

The fight in the art gallery was probably the funniest moment in the game for me so far

calstars, Monday, 12 September 2022 15:10 (three weeks ago) link

Anyone got any advice on upgrades (camp or otherwise)?

Get that Legendary Buck first. The prize will be more findings of three-star animals.

There's also a good trinket to get that keeps animals from spoiling on your horse.

Chapters 2 and 3 are a good time to get a lot of that stuff out of the way.

pplains, Monday, 12 September 2022 21:26 (three weeks ago) link

Man, this game

Have only just completed Chapter 2 and reckon, similar to the first one, 90+% of my time is spent hunting animals, collecting herbs, doing challenges and generally just wandering around. So fucking good

groovypanda, Thursday, 22 September 2022 08:39 (two weeks ago) link

I wish I had done a lot more of that stuff right around where you are now, Chapters 2 and 3.

It did leave me with plenty to do after the missions were over, but whenever I'd complete a challenge and get the reward, I'd think, "Boy, I sure could've used that a month ago."

pplains, Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:28 (two weeks ago) link

Best moment so far was when I shot the Legendary Bison with a poison arrow and then the fucker decided to run into the lake and drown, leaving me unable to skin it and harvest the parts (thankfully they then auto appear in the fence's inventory so it doesn't stop you crafting any of the talismans)

groovypanda, Thursday, 22 September 2022 14:50 (two weeks ago) link

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