everything rad is good for you: a persona/shin megami thread

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i know i'm late on this but what does the title of this thread refer to, anyway (rad?)

Nhex, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

its a play on the title of the book "everything bad is good for you"

have to say, I know you gotta keep fusing to stay competitive, but I will be missing some of my demon bros.

yah you really have no chance but to fuse as much and as quickly as possible in order to finish the later dungeons. im kinda used to being a little lazy about demon mgmt - hanging on to dudes with one skill i really liked or just needed for s.link (obv not a factor) or wanting to avoid paying to resummon them for future fusions but you really need a full component in this game

a little bit stalled btw school and some other things but still hype 4 this

Lamp, Monday, 19 April 2010 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

i actually have heard of that book but i thought there was some kind of SMT-related punning going on

Nhex, Monday, 19 April 2010 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

yah i think i had some convoluted deep meaning in mind when i started this thread but that was kinda @ the height of my obsession. dont remember what i was referring to lol

most o_O thing for 2day: eo3 is out in jpn

( ª_ª)○º° (Lamp), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

ebigfy opening para has sibling synchronicity w/P3 iirc tho it's a while since I read it

Steve Sharta (cozen), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

are any of the 8/16-bit shin megami whatever games worth emulating while i look for a copy of strange journey

thomp, Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:59 (nine years ago) link

i am oddly fascinated by this blog: http://whatyuwannaknow.tumblr.com/

thomp, Sunday, 15 April 2012 00:09 (nine years ago) link

what a great idea!

boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 15 April 2012 00:11 (nine years ago) link


is this, like, a thing

thomp, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 01:45 (nine years ago) link

lots of SMT & related news recently
PS1/Saturn game Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers is being remade for 3DS
P3:FES is up for download on the PS3 in US, both Digital Devil Saga games coming next month to EU PS3
Ghostlight are localising Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked 3DS and its DS sequel Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 in EU

where will i find the time/when will Atlus stop with ports and make a new game dammit

zappi, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:22 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

oooh Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS
playing thru Strange Journey atm, the demon conversations can get pretty funny

zappi, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 00:10 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

is something weird going on with experience distribution in strange journey or am i missing something

thomp, Thursday, 5 July 2012 16:25 (nine years ago) link

I'm playing through P3P on vita, yes I am

killer camel beej (cozen), Thursday, 5 July 2012 20:57 (nine years ago) link

this game has the biggest disconnect between theme and mechanics of anything i've played since left 4 dead afaict

thomp, Friday, 6 July 2012 09:21 (nine years ago) link

thomp did you ever emulate any of the old-school SMT games? i fucked around with the fan translations of the first few but never made any real progress.

adam, Friday, 6 July 2012 12:18 (nine years ago) link

nah i just decided to order a copy of strange journey. apparently they're a lot more annoying/arbitrary? i feel like the more user-friendly version of this experience is probably all i need for the moment, especially given the more user-friendly version still means running into enemies with a one-hit instant kill game over for a couple of hours before you can do anything to avoid it

thomp, Friday, 6 July 2012 12:21 (nine years ago) link

avoiding the majority of random encounters by talking to demons is a pretty good mechanic

dark rooms you can't automap is kind of an annoying one

thomp, Friday, 6 July 2012 12:22 (nine years ago) link

"Yes, the Shibboleth ...
You pronounce it well, Zelenin."

thomp, Friday, 6 July 2012 15:36 (nine years ago) link


thomp, Friday, 6 July 2012 15:36 (nine years ago) link

i gave my dude a polack name in this and have found myself getting more and more resentful of how the fn WASPs on board the red stripe keep expecting the ethnic minorities to do all the work

thomp, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 10:54 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

Buncha these are on sale for 3ds. I'm just wondering if the Soul Hackers or DDS Overclocked are actually worth picking up thru the 3ds

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Friday, 16 January 2015 08:19 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

new Persona 5 trailer, looking and sounding good!


( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 5 February 2015 13:15 (six years ago) link

came here to post this too haha

the angles/etc during many of the scenes are very Catherine

otm rcuise (Will M.), Thursday, 5 February 2015 15:50 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

no surprise that P5 has been delayed, now coming out "Summer 2016" ... maybe.
new trailer

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 17 September 2015 13:21 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

I was getting frustrated 50 hours into P2: Innocent Sin when I was in what was clearly the final dungeon for forever and the difficulty suddenly jumped into the stratosphere and I was randomly encountering one-hit-killers like 2/3 of the time and using up all of my unreplenishable items, and I was seriously about to pack it in but I stuck it out until the end and I'm glad I did because the penultimate boss was (spoilerz) Hitler. Sorry, 'Fuhrer'. But seriously: Hitler. Followed by Nyarlathotep. So that was dece.

I think I'm going to take a break before hitting the second P2 though.

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 02:06 (five years ago) link

the difficulty suddenly jumped into the stratosphere and I was randomly encountering one-hit-killers like 2/3 of the time

yeah that's the point where I tapped out of P4.

JimD, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 10:07 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

gotta admit i am super fucking psyched for persona 5

adam, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 14:48 (four years ago) link

yeah! for whatever reason i thought it was delayed until september

just another (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 15:55 (four years ago) link

94 on metacritic is currently enough to make it the highest rated non-remake in ps4 history

i should get off my ass and go pick it up before t he store closes

why ruin a good tradition? (Will M.), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:48 (four years ago) link

Played the first couple of hours, strong start and super stylish. Already fighting the urge to play all night!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:18 (four years ago) link

2.5 hours in and i am bored as fuck tbh

adam, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:22 (four years ago) link

feels slow and clunky and talky after nier: automata

adam, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:23 (four years ago) link

did you like p3 and p4?

the pacing so far is pretty much exactly that, slo to start but ramps up into itself after a while. i'm enjoying it!

why ruin a good tradition? (Will M.), Thursday, 6 April 2017 03:09 (four years ago) link

Oh, huh, I blasted through the first two and guess I got distracted like an hour into 2b. Maybe I should just jump ahead to 3 so I can get caught up and play 5 in like 2021.

The Godzilla/Globetrotters Adventure Hour (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 April 2017 03:50 (four years ago) link

P5 otm

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 7 April 2017 00:56 (four years ago) link

Do I have to play any of the first 4 because I'm only just hearing about this

Gukbe, Saturday, 8 April 2017 18:59 (four years ago) link

You can start wherever, they aren't really linked (apart from the two P2 games obv)
Into the second dungeon, this game has really got its hooks into me now. Appreciate the minor SMT tweaks added to the battle system. Soundtrack is incredible.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 8 April 2017 19:19 (four years ago) link

P5 is probably the best place to start due to all the quality of life improvements in the menus and such, no more 5 minute long re-rolls of fusion results to get the right skillset inherited.

chihuahuau, Saturday, 8 April 2017 19:44 (four years ago) link

it's a paradox. all can be played separately. P5 is probably the best. (i'm not done yet but i already like it more in every conceivable way.) however P3 and P4 I also LOVE and they'd be hard to go back to. but i'm not gonna sit here and tell you to get a SP and PS Vita to play the essential versions of those two sooooo

why ruin a good tradition? (Will M.), Monday, 10 April 2017 20:46 (four years ago) link


also lmao

why ruin a good tradition? (Will M.), Monday, 10 April 2017 20:46 (four years ago) link

i have been playing this fucking compulsively for the past week. being unemployed + this existing = uh oh

per my post 2 above, this may be my fave entry into one of my fave series OAT. wow wow wow

why ruin a good tradition? (Will M.), Monday, 10 April 2017 20:48 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

surprisingly long for a gag game. i got to the second teleporter and had to take a break.

Einstein, Bazinga, Sitar (abanana), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 06:32 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

holy shit @ this game

i don't really play rpgs ever, but... dang dog

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:31 (three years ago) link

this game is going to take over my life, isn't it

i keep reading about "time management" and choices i get to make about down-time but so far there hasn't been any. i keep getting hustled to the next bit and then told to go to bed. don't get me wrong, the game is amazing (if a bit disturbing tbh) but i do feel a bit pushed around like it's on rails

i forgot how much fun turn-based battles can be. still trying to work out how confidantes' abilities map into this, how to "fuse" persona, wth arcana are, etc

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 February 2018 11:44 (three years ago) link

the game does take a while before it opens up, the 'hustling' in this one definitely felt more obnoxious than in P4. You should be able to fuse by talking too the twins but basically you can make new persona by combining two or more other ones and it will let you choose certain abilities to gift to them based on the persona you are fusing. the game will also allow you to go back and buy persona you've fused at the level you last had them so there's no need to worry about losing certain persona.

each confidante represents an arcana and the higher yr social link with that character the more bonus xp you'll get when you fuse a persona of that arcana. Also if you currently have a persona of a certain arcana in yr 'deck' your relationship with the corresponding character will grow faster when you hang out with them. which are good reasons to be fusing persona.

sorry if that made no sense

devvvine, Thursday, 15 February 2018 13:26 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

lol it totally makes sense now, feels funny that i ever had to wonder about it

question though: how do you get the background music out of your head??????? this is a major problem with videogames with this many hours of play built in imo!!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 23:17 (three years ago) link

I realized that I'm never going to actually push through with Persona 2B (which, I gather, is just a variation on the first version of Persona 2) so I jumped ahead to Persona 3. I don't know how I feel about the PSP version so far, since it does that thing that way too many Japanese Vita/PSP games do where they reduce the gameplay to not much more than clicking buttons amidst static images of talking heads (just watched some PS2 clips to confirm that the portable version strips away all of the cutscenes and character animation). Maybe the actual battles will make this feel like less of a (yaaaaaaawn) visual novel? Everyone seems to agree that it's actually better than the PS2 version so I'm hanging in there. I'm probably just spoiled by the fact that the PSP ports of the first two games are newer and more polished than P3.

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I'm not meltdown. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 March 2018 02:57 (three years ago) link

the psp version is far superior in that you actually get to control your whole party, iirc. in the original i think you just set their "AI" and only had direct control of your own character. plus they added some stuff like the other gender main character. enjoy it! that game gets buckwild in the best way.

flippy bard (Will M.), Thursday, 8 March 2018 16:18 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Persona 5 (PS3) is finally a reasonable price on the PS store so here I go

Simon H., Wednesday, 20 June 2018 00:33 (three years ago) link

Cautiously good news: https://kotaku.com/persona-5-royal-is-editing-two-homophobic-scenes-1841751118

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 20:46 (one year ago) link

its just the english localization team changing it as far as i can tell, atlus/hashino still don't care

ciderpress, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 21:01 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

i like persona 5 now. the black and red plaid punkish aesthetic really turned me off at first, strong early 00s mall punk sum 41 vibes, but i have come to terms w it.

5 makes a lot of the social mechanics more explicit which takes away some of the immersiveness of 3 (the best game of the entire megaten series imo, followed by nocturne) but also makes it less stressful, wondering if i was totally blowing the late game by eating the wrong ramen or whatever. music is also not as good as 3 or 4 but there are def some tunes.

adam, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 13:01 (one year ago) link

it's a good game, though i did stop.

the dating stuff gave me massive anxiety. what if i gave the wrong gift and didn't get to fuck the one i wanted to fuck????

there was also a serious difficulty spike in mementos which scared me

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:23 (one year ago) link

3, 4 and 5 are all near-perfect no back answers

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:26 (one year ago) link

no i agree - i feel that i failed it, rather than the other way around

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:31 (one year ago) link

tbf i've NG+ed all of them 3 or 4 times, it gets a lot easier

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:34 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...
one month passes...

hey Persona 4 Golden is out on Steam, only $20/£16 too
hope they port P3 next

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 14 June 2020 04:25 (one year ago) link

Here I am, 12 years late to the party, playing P4 for the first time, having never played a Persona before. I like pretty much everything about it except for the bland randomized dungeons. The soundtrack is having a Major Effect on me, let me tell you.

american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 13:24 (one year ago) link

it's a shame it's a straight port otherwise i'd've bought the fucker again

the dungeons are one of the weaker elements until 5 tbf

comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 13:25 (one year ago) link

Ugh I am so tempted to rebuy it and play it again but I have enough to play

Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 16:33 (one year ago) link

i bought a PS TV just so i could play the Golden so i'm not gonna get the PC version

Ivan Scampo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 16:35 (one year ago) link

I’ve been thinking of getting P4G because it looks like the kind of game I’d like (turn-based RPG, colourful visuals, weird as hell), but i fear it might be too dense for me since I’m not much of a gamer.. should I just say fuck it and go for it anyways?

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 22 June 2020 06:24 (one year ago) link

yeah, it's very user friendly and the learning curve is gentle

never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 June 2020 10:02 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

P5R is on sale and I'm trying to be smart and resist buying it as I played the base game already. Maybe if it ever goes under $20, I'll give it a try.

Basic Chan Ho Park (Leee), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 17:49 (eight months ago) link

Lol that didn't last long! Bought it just now anyway.

Basic Chan Ho Park (Leee), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 18:04 (eight months ago) link

i'm tempted to give it another try, i own the base game but fell off it 25-30 hours in and there being a Better version makes me less inclined to resume

ciderpress, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 18:26 (eight months ago) link

Apparently Royal has quality of life improvements too.

Basic Chan Ho Park (Leee), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 18:30 (eight months ago) link

i've put 400+ hours into P5 and i'm getting Royal as soon as i've got a machine to play it on, worth every penny

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 18:42 (eight months ago) link

i should play TMS first though since i already own that one

ciderpress, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 18:51 (eight months ago) link

actually P5R is half price on the PS Store over here, very tempted to buy it now so it's ready for when PS5's are available next summer

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 18:54 (eight months ago) link

eight months pass...

been playing a lot of persona 3 lately. I haven't played any other games in the series yet so I don't know how it stands up against the others, but the world it creates is just so perfect. and the characters! and dialogue! I'm far from even being halfway through the game, but I already feel so attached to the characters and story

the summer vacation beach scene -- where junpei drags akihiko and the protagonist into trying to pick up girls at the beach before they meet aigis -- is such a good portrayal of adolescent male awkwardness and arrogance (except for that one part where it gets weirdly transphobic. that part has not aged well!)

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 26 July 2021 04:10 (five days ago) link

sadly you get those little moments of stupid unpleasantness in the series but yeah otm, the Persona games have become the most emotionally affecting games I've ever played and I'm fairly obsessed.

(not obsessed enough to take a chance on Strikers yet tho. has anybody played that?)

mogwai oh wai oh wai (Noodle Vague), Monday, 26 July 2021 07:16 (five days ago) link

those atlus writers are really queer-phobic. look up the scenes they added in catherine full body if you want to be disgusted.

wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, 26 July 2021 17:26 (five days ago) link

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