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FUCK YEAH!

Anyone else here playing this? I'm only on Chapter 4, got it yesterday.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 28 September 2006 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I really don't like it at all.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 28 September 2006 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link

The demo did nothing for me.

adam (adam), Thursday, 28 September 2006 03:33 (thirteen years ago) link

This game is incredibly frustrating and irritating. There's a lot I like about it, especially its hilarious Japaneseness, but I kind of with I had rented i5t and not bought it. Anyone want to trade for Okami?

antexit (antexit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't found it to be particularly frustrating at all. What's been giving you trouble? I've only lost one fight, in Chapter 2 when I was still figuring out the controls, and I've been doing all the optional missions for EXP. It took a few hours, but in Chapter 5 I already have 5 Soul 7 Tech and 7 Body, with close to 1,000,000 yen and over half of the locker keys. I guess a lot of people hate the random encounters (and the loading time that comes with them), but I wouldn't say there are any more than your average RPG. There's an EXP cap on those things, too. Since doing all those missions, I haven't had any apart from the scripted ones while you're carrying Haruka to Serena.

I'm liking this a lot more than I thought I would from the demo.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Friday, 29 September 2006 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link

What I find frustrating is mainly the fighting mechanic, the stupid combos that continually leave you punching the air while the guy you're fighting punches you in the back of the head. And I actually liked the random encounters at first, since fighting can be really fun, but there's just too many of them; they should have made them more avoidable. What I like: the story, how weirdly adult it all is, how the usual levelgrinding stuff in the game actually makes you feel like you're living the depressing life of a Tokyo salaryman, the way the city looks, all the shops you can go into and things you can do that have no bearing on the game itself (in that way it's like Shenmue in a way I hoped it'd be.) Also, fuck! All the fucking swearing becomes fucking irritating after a fucking while! Fuck! What's the fucking point? Again, trades for Okami: hit me up

antexit (antexit), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

the stupid combos that continually leave you punching the air while the guy you're fighting punches you in the back of the head.

I've heard this complaint before, and while I haven't had too much trouble with this, there is a solution fairly early in the game. Aside from remembering to hold down R1 while fighting and using the shift technique to quickly escape when you find yourself in this situation, there are two reverse attack moves you can learn that pretty much make this a non issue. At the start of Chapter 4 you can go to the alleyway southwest of Theater Square to find Coin Locker Key No. 50. Unlock this locker to get a book on Roundhouse kick techniques. Once your Tech stat reaches 4 you will automatically learn this if you have the book. There is also a Reverse Strike punch to learn from Sensei Komaki in Purgatory, but you have to have Tech built up to 6 for him to teach it to you.
The only "random" encounters in all of chapter 5 for me were the ones on the way to meet Majima, again scripted so they don't really count, none in chapter six so far. Again, too many random encounters is the game telling you to earn more EXP.
All the swearing is an attempt to approximate in English the way Yakuza actually talk. It sort of works but I could see it all coming off much better in Japanese with subtitles. I read that they wanted to include the Japanese language track but there wasn't enough room on the disc.

Okami is great but if I didn't have it I wouldn't trade this for it. The story alone makes it a keeper, for me.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

hold down R1 while fighting and using the shift technique to quickly escape

Should read: hold down R1 while fighting to shift and using the dodge technique while shifting to quickly escape

Marmot (marmotwolof), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

did anyone play yakuza 2 through? seen it mentioned a few times on ILg I think

cozwn, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 13:25 (ten years ago) link

Sitting on my to-be-played shelf :(

Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 16:36 (ten years ago) link

some solid praise from good writer types. been meaning to pick up a copy, but that would necessitate buying a new PS2 memory card.

GM, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 17:11 (ten years ago) link

Yakuza 2 was probably my favorite game of last year. the story is stunningly non-retarded (I never played the first one so I had no idea what to expect), the action is frantic and awesome, and then there's this:

jamescobo, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 17:28 (ten years ago) link

this game is great (regretting putting it on easy tho cos it's a pinch too easy); as james says the story is surprisingly nonretardo, the presentation (gfx+music) is great and the combat is rly satisfying

my only complaints are petty: no 480p even tho the box says so, the camera is a bit iffy, eh

cozwn, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:17 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

we're never going to see yakuza 3, kenzan or yakuza 4 in the west are we?

m. white btw (cozwn), Friday, 24 July 2009 07:24 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

fuck yeah!!!!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18013966&postcount=424

I peacocked your mom (webinar), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 14:09 (ten years ago) link

if this actually goes down I am bullish as hell on the chances of it selling well enough to justify the other games being brought over since (1) there's an actual groundswell of support behind the release and (2) people still haven't figured out how to pirate PS3 games yet. (assuming we're talking about a disc release and not on PSN like foax had been a-sayin').

"I have seen bloodstains on the Pac Man joystick" (jamescobo), Thursday, 15 October 2009 00:33 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

It's not going to win any awards - unless there's a category for "best golf game unexpectedly inserted into a violent RPG" included in end of the year round-ups - but it's slick stuff, and in the quirky wholeheartedness with which SEGA's underworld adventure throws itself into capturing the feel of Tiger Woods, you can see why people often refer to this series as the spiritual successor to Shenmue.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/yakuza-3-european-hands-on

forksclovetofu, Monday, 15 February 2010 23:08 (nine years ago) link

only one flaw w/that argument YAKUZA rocks SHENMUE sux

dnw (cozen), Monday, 15 February 2010 23:11 (nine years ago) link

anyone who doesn't buy this game should be reincarnated as Amy Winehouse's taint

/no cobo (jamescobo), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 20:01 (nine years ago) link

i say no, no, no to that

antexit, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 23:38 (nine years ago) link

i heard eliza dushku is in this, true?

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 01:03 (nine years ago) link

lol

Nhex, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 01:09 (nine years ago) link

poor old sega ;_;

a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 17:14 (nine years ago) link

true, but they put out at least 3 classics in the last 3 years (Yakuza 2, Valkyria Chronicles, Bayonetta)

/no cobo (jamescobo), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 17:48 (nine years ago) link

do you have a take on this whole saga jc?

a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:14 (nine years ago) link

(I assume you've been following the saga of the removed hostess sections in the NA release of Y3; general internet bitching and whining as per)

a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:15 (nine years ago) link

it sucks that they're removing content, but I never got as much into the hostess stuff as other Yakuzatards so I'm not slitting my wrists over it or anything. as long as I can still win a fight with a tiger by sticking a cigarette in its eye, I'll be good.

/no cobo (jamescobo), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:29 (nine years ago) link

new trailer up on PSN for yakuza 4 apparently; features a chainsaw

a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:31 (nine years ago) link

btw Sega has said that if Y3 sells well enough they'll consider bringing over Yakuza Kenzan (the one set in like 1885), so everyone buy like eight copies

/no cobo (jamescobo), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:41 (nine years ago) link

omg cig flick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl11P__gN1Q

a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Thursday, 25 February 2010 08:30 (nine years ago) link

oh fuck yeah

antexit, Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:00 (nine years ago) link

want to play this so bad ;_; are there any ps2 emulators?

Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ (dyao), Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:18 (nine years ago) link

yeah, but you need a super beefy machine to get playable frame rates

Nhex, Thursday, 25 February 2010 15:23 (nine years ago) link

btw Sega has said that if Y3 sells well enough they'll consider bringing over Yakuza Kenzan (the one set in like 1885), so everyone buy like eight copies

I hope "well enough" is like 10,000 copies, because that's the game I really want to play (and Yakuza 3 is sure not to sell much, come on, not at sixty dollars, not with this packed AAA March). Also based on missing tropies from the western release of Yakuza 3, it seems a lot more than just the hostess club stuff has been cut, but also the japanese games like mahjong and shogi (and more). Kind of a bummer in 2010...

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:13 (nine years ago) link

Also based on missing tropies from the western release of Yakuza 3, it seems a lot more than just the hostess club stuff has been cut, but also the japanese games like mahjong and shogi (and more). Kind of a bummer in 2010...

okay, THAT is a bummer; the insanely-fleshed-out minigames added a lot of flavor to Y2 even if I never actually beat any of them. I still remember flipping through like 10+ pages of tiny-ass text explaining how to play mahjongg; it was more imposing than most of the fights.

still preordering it since beating people's asses in Y2 is impossibly fun, though.

/no cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:18 (nine years ago) link

while I don't agree w/sega's decision I can understand their rationale and I don't think this is the wrong-headed idiocy that the internet wd have you believe

tht being said the hostess club content is interwoven throughout the game, losing that loses you a significant proportion of the non-combat experience. how many small events that enriched yakuza have now been lost because the hostess club backbone has been removed?

the qn is how many side missions dependent on the hostess club content have we lost? it has a domino effect.

if yakuza was just a fighting game I wouldn't be interested.

a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:48 (nine years ago) link

hopefully they leave it on the disc and then patch a translation in later.

/no cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:45 (nine years ago) link

it totally affects different threads throughout the game tho so presumably they'll have to remove those and insert other scenes; don't see tht happening myself jc

a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:47 (nine years ago) link

http://kotaku.com/5478862/sega-you-are-once-again-making-a-giant-mistake

I agree with his point but as with most Ashcraft articles, the only thing I end up taking away from it is that Brian Ashcraft should be dropped from a great height

/no cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:03 (nine years ago) link

it seems mr. ashcraft has missed the subtext of sega's 'you wouldn't get it, sugar' explanation: pretty sure they just couldn't afford to translate all the game (and have said as much in a subsequent statement iirc) - they had to cut something and decided this was the most non-essential portion of the game

a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:06 (nine years ago) link

The couldn't afford it explanation reeks of bullshit - honestly, how could it cost more to translate a few hundred lines (or whatever) of text compared to paying a programmer to take out those sections of code and reprogram the game to work w/o those sections?

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:15 (nine years ago) link

that makes sense, I guess, iunno, sick of reading about this and discussing it by now tbf ;_;

a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:16 (nine years ago) link

can't stop reading the GAF thread on this, against my better judgement. must. stop.

a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:17 (nine years ago) link

2 lazy to google relevance but translation is iirc really expensive whereas deleting shit not so much. i mean idk anything abt how/what/how much has been cut but i can see that being both a) cheaper and b) quicker

i dont think is like snes ear nintendo i just think its sega rushing/doing the trans on the cheap *shrug* in the would i rather wait for the ~right~ version of the game vs getting the game at all/soon im usually predisposed to go with the latter

von Neu! man universe (Lamp), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:17 (nine years ago) link

I agree with his point but as with most Ashcraft articles, the only thing I end up taking away from it is that Brian Ashcraft should be dropped from a great height

he is like the worst writer ever. i know i've mentioned it before, but also 85% of his articles for kotaku are creepy thnigs about japanese soft-porn actresses, he reminds me of that shiroi basket shoes guy with the creepy flickr page.

on in the b.g. while you're grouting (stevie), Thursday, 25 February 2010 23:30 (nine years ago) link

Finally started Yakuza 2 last night (and played for a little over an hour - is it always that long between save points? I think in the first one you could save at phone booths?) I know they did it to save money, but the decision to stick with the Japanese language track was the best thing to happen with this game - it really adds to the atmosphere. I was also surprised to actually be into the story (so far)... that just happens so rarely with games it's sort of shocking. On the negative side, the way the camera works in these games still kind of annoys me, especially in those awkward moments when you take a few steps and it has to load a new angle or whatever. And I still feel like the brawling in 3d is just a little more clunky then it should be - game would benefit from a Demon's Souls style lock-on maybe. Anyhow, definitely looking forward to playing some more over the weekend.

Jeff LeVine, Friday, 26 February 2010 16:44 (nine years ago) link

yeah, the story is surprisingly engaging and well written

Hideous Lamp (cozen), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:01 (nine years ago) link

that whole game is just such a treat. definitely going to place in my top 3 when we get around to the PS2 poll.

/no cobo (jamescobo), Friday, 26 February 2010 21:23 (nine years ago) link

Here's a new, long trailer for Yakuza 4 (out in March in Japan, I think?), mostly focusing on the side games you can play in the game...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNd9HlQ_OwY

Jeff LeVine, Saturday, 27 February 2010 05:16 (nine years ago) link

With songs on easy though if you think the inputs are the problem you should try building in steps, cos you’ll need them to beat Miss Isobe.

gyac, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 15:12 (seven months ago) link

New Yakuza game starring Ichiban Kasuga announced for PS4 https://t.co/r4dhU9Ejka pic.twitter.com/0y4wlSSw4F

— Gematsu (@gematsucom) March 20, 2019

ciderpress, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 15:54 (seven months ago) link

not even taking a break after finishing the kiryu games huh

ciderpress, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 15:55 (seven months ago) link

has there been any info on 3/4/5 ports coming to the west?

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 15:57 (seven months ago) link

it's happening but no timeframe yet iirc

ciderpress, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 15:59 (seven months ago) link

Something I've taken to doing but which makes me feel bad is knocking pedestrians down and running over dogs.

LEOPLOD BLOOMPS (Leee), Thursday, 28 March 2019 16:53 (six months ago) link

In 3, you get a trophy for knocking down 100 people. It’s really hard though.

gyac, Thursday, 28 March 2019 16:57 (six months ago) link

at once or running tally?

ciderpress, Thursday, 28 March 2019 17:06 (six months ago) link

The latter (though I’ve never done it)

gyac, Thursday, 28 March 2019 17:06 (six months ago) link

"My girlfriend knocked over 100 people!"
"At the same time?"

LEOPLOD BLOOMPS (Leee), Thursday, 28 March 2019 18:32 (six months ago) link

I really dislike Ai's "EH HEH-HEH" laugh, maybe that's her revenge for me turning her into a Goth princess.

Audrey Tautoulogy (Leee), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:49 (six months ago) link

fufufu

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 20:49 (six months ago) link

I have gotten better at the Miss Isobe substory and can get 6000+ points consistently now, but is that enough to beat her?

Audrey Tautoulogy (Leee), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 16:30 (six months ago) link

Not unless you get lucky. You’re better off doing the song on hard mode as she’s far more likely to fuck up on that level. I beat her on 8200 or thereabouts but I came within like 2 points of beating her on a few occasions and it was enraging.

gyac, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:09 (six months ago) link

Sorry, forgot to mention that I'm trying on hard already! I haven't been able to swing a perfectly clean run through Koi No Disco Queen yet, so I guess that's an obvious area for potential improvement.

Audrey Tautoulogy (Leee), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:35 (six months ago) link

Are you getting three bonuses per run?

gyac, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:42 (six months ago) link

Just two, I think, but sometimes I sit on the fever if I'm close to the chorus.

Audrey Tautoulogy (Leee), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:22 (six months ago) link

This is maybe where you’re going wrong - use fever as soon as you get it, otherwise you’re wasting time you could be accruing another chance at it.

gyac, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:27 (six months ago) link

OK, I'll give that a shot!

Audrey Tautoulogy (Leee), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 18:32 (six months ago) link

Using that strategy I was able to break 7K points, but the one time she scored less than that, I biffed horribly and ended under 6000.

Aside from pure stubbornness, I'm not even sure why I'm still trying to beat her since I've already beaten Club Moon.

Audrey Tautoulogy (Leee), Friday, 12 April 2019 23:28 (six months ago) link

Practice at disco? One of the hardest bosses but the self satisfaction you get there is immense.

gyac, Friday, 12 April 2019 23:46 (six months ago) link

Done! My second attempt yesterday she made a load of mistakes while I had reasonably clean run. 7000 to 6000.

Audrey Tautoulogy (Leee), Saturday, 13 April 2019 15:38 (six months ago) link

Woo! Well done.

gyac, Saturday, 13 April 2019 17:09 (six months ago) link

EVERYBODY SAY ROUUUUUGE OF LOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVEEEEE

chihuahuau, Sunday, 14 April 2019 22:51 (six months ago) link

Kiwami 2 is on sale for PS4.

Audrey Tautoulogy (Leee), Friday, 19 April 2019 17:45 (six months ago) link

Mild spoiler for 0:

I got to the part where Oda speaks Chinese and my god it's awful. The devs at least sprung for an actual native Chinese speaker for one of the other other characters, thankfully.

Perfect Leee Cromulent (Leee), Monday, 29 April 2019 20:50 (five months ago) link

haha! i wondered about that. also, something i noticed in 6 (didn't notice in 0)... if a character speaks two languages, i am pretty sure they use two voice actors, one for each language?! and there was one character, i forget which one, where his japanese voice and his other-language voice aren't even CLOSE! (not mentioning the language in case it's a spoiler, idk)

deus ex majima (Will M.), Monday, 29 April 2019 21:41 (five months ago) link

xp omg seriously? Makes me wonder if they dubbed him better in the Chinese version.

gyac, Monday, 29 April 2019 21:53 (five months ago) link

Ok I searched for one of the “other” language speakers but can’t find it on YouTube (is it the guy who’s been uhhhh recast?) but I did find that Oda clip and I’m dying, i don’t know any Chinese but what the fuck was this & why did I not notice it
https://youtu.be/dhPR_K4uCBw

gyac, Monday, 29 April 2019 21:59 (five months ago) link

Did Sega dub Zero into other languages??

Perfect Leee Cromulent (Leee), Monday, 29 April 2019 22:14 (five months ago) link

later in the game there's another chinese character that in the jp/us/eu versions is played by a (presumably) japanese va and whose 3d model is (presumably) made up for the game but in the chinese version is played by and modelled after an actual chinese actor and... well, you'll see

chihuahuau, Monday, 29 April 2019 22:16 (five months ago) link

The version of 0 released in China had one big change which I won’t mention as it’s spoilery(?)

gyac, Monday, 29 April 2019 22:17 (five months ago) link

lol xp ty

gyac, Monday, 29 April 2019 22:17 (five months ago) link

What's a good way to kill time in between Real Estate pickups? I tried doing the phone club but got discouraged with my first repeat date. (I'm supposed to differentiate the voices of all the actresses???)

Soccer Team's Philosophies and Hypotheses (Leee), Thursday, 9 May 2019 20:14 (five months ago) link

pocket circuit?

chihuahuau, Thursday, 9 May 2019 20:53 (five months ago) link

+1 pocket circuit, also mahjong (❤️) and disco (❤️❤️). And outrun!

Re: telephone club - http://www.khhsubs.com/rggzero/chatline.html

gyac, Thursday, 9 May 2019 21:27 (five months ago) link

lol I loathe the Sega arcade games, when I had to beat the Electronics King's high score I was perfectly content to lose and give him back that 10%.

Pocket Circuit is pretty much just getting better components for your car and not so much a game of skill (aside from knowing when to use a turbo)?

Disco might work! I still have a bunch of songs that I still need to 3*.

Soccer Team's Philosophies and Hypotheses (Leee), Thursday, 9 May 2019 21:36 (five months ago) link

Pocket circuit will get you a ton of CP though & it’s fairly repetitive yeah but it’s the kind of thing you can chip away at. You’ll also get the pocket circuit building as one of yours once you befriend pocket circuit fighter.

gyac, Thursday, 9 May 2019 21:43 (five months ago) link

...is yakuza 6 generally similar to the other yakuza games?

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Saturday, 11 May 2019 19:23 (five months ago) link

Yes, though there are some mini games that aren’t in the others and ofc the setting. Why?

gyac, Saturday, 11 May 2019 19:24 (five months ago) link

yakuza is the first game in the newest engine and in some ways combat is significantly toned down compared to something like 0 or 5

kiwami 2 which came out later also uses 6's engine but has caught up a fair bit

chihuahuau, Sunday, 12 May 2019 00:40 (five months ago) link

NUGGET!

I LOVE YOU.

Soccer Team's Philosophies and Hypotheses (Leee), Sunday, 12 May 2019 06:46 (five months ago) link

So I'm in the middle of the Media King real estate stuff and something I'm still not quite clear on yet is which advisor (I have them all unlocked) to use for a specific property. For example, if I'm trying to level up a restaurant, should I use Miracle (5*, O proficiency) or Mama-san (3*, OO proficiency, and a fraction of MJ's price)?

Soccer Team's Philosophies and Hypotheses (Leee), Thursday, 16 May 2019 21:03 (five months ago) link

Mama san. Double circle = the best rating & star is just a multiplier? Think MJ is the best for levelling entertainment venues.

gyac, Thursday, 16 May 2019 21:15 (five months ago) link

These people seem to say to always use Miracle: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/816306-yakuza-0/75652469

I'm not yet at the point where I can throw ¥50m at every property I want to upgrade, so seeing the bar move up by only 1/10th keeps leaving me with buyer's remorse.

Meanwhile, in the rough-and-tumble world of the high-level, high-stakes pocket circuit: I love the animation when Kiryu loses! His disappointment and sadness is so heartfelt!

Soccer Team's Philosophies and Hypotheses (Leee), Thursday, 16 May 2019 22:16 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

yakuza 7 is a JRPG

ciderpress, Thursday, 29 August 2019 13:35 (one month ago) link

badass

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 29 August 2019 13:39 (one month ago) link

fuck yes i love jrpgs in nontraditional settings

adam, Thursday, 29 August 2019 13:47 (one month ago) link

Nah, not into it tbh, I’m not mad about street fights as they are but they are something you just get over as fast as possible if you’re not in the mood; this looks like it takes much longer.

Side note: judgement is AMAZING

gyac, Thursday, 29 August 2019 14:46 (one month ago) link


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