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I've got a line on a cheap PS2 because my gf and I really want to play Katamari. What else do I absolutely have to play that's not available on other systems? Ratchet & Clank? Shadow of the Colossus? God of War?

Things I'm not interested in: GTA, Final Fantasies

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i LOVE ratchet & clank.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

RACHET & CLANK: GOING COMMANDO (which is the second one)

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not very good at skateboarding, Nick.

Which R&C is better?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

And would it be wiser to start with the first Katamari/

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Dark Cloud 2
Shadow etc

kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i liked the last r&c. fun!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I prefer Going Commando to the first R&C, but both are fun. I haven't played any of the newer ones and I'm not even sure how many there are.
I am a terrible terrible skateboarder, but I love the Tony Hawk games. So fluid and aimless!
Everyone jizzes on Ico. I didn't enjoy it due to the frustrating fight controls, but somehow I think it might be a Jordan kind of game.
I don't think it really matters which Katamari you start with. They're not that different, apart from the worlds you roll around in.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Grand Theft Auto: Vice City.

I'm sure San Andreas belongs here as well, but I didn't have a chance to buy it before the whole Hot Coffee episode.

Also Jordan, I say start with the 1st Katamari. It's not critical or anything, but I felt like the 2nd was a lot more innovative, and that it's better to step up than down if you're going to choose a sequence.

Laura H. (laurah), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

No one's said PES yet? Also, I'm not done with it yet, but Killer7's a fantstic game. The first game in a very long time that I've sat down at midnight for a quick game and stopped playing at 8:30 to go out!

melton mowbray (adr), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I might catch shit for this, and admittedly the game has its flaws, but I still think it has to be said:

Final Fantasy X

Laura H. (laurah), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Things I'm not interested in: GTA, Final Fantasies

-- Jordan (jordan...), November 8th, 2005 2:03 PM. (Jordan) (later)

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry Laura.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

This is what I get for skimming threads too fast at work.

Laura H. (laurah), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

This is what you get for being a NAZI!!@!!@

Estefan Buttez!@!@!@ (ex machina), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link


adam (adam), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

gitaroo man!

if you can find it

anonymous celebrity (anonymous celebrity), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll add gradius v and devil may cry, two of the only games i have enjoyed at all in recent years. also, i think this is important to emphasize: the reason ico is good is because it is not afraid to be boring. if you don't appreciate the game it is because you have forgotten how to be bored properly. and i don't think this list should include gamecube games because they're all better on the gamecube even if only for the superior control pad.

i should probably play psychonauts and the three shin megami tensei games (smt: nocturne, digital devil saga 1 & 2).

oh yeah: does anyone else find disgaea tedious and unrewarding?

allen riley (allenriley), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Disgaea is incredible.

jeffrey (johnson), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone played this Ratchet & Clank game?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Shadow of the Colossus seconded
Katamari seconded
Gradius V seconded
Rez seconded, good luck finding it for a reasonable price though

Metal Gear Solid 3
Guilty Gear X2
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection
Zone of the Enders 2

sleep (sleep), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Does MGS3 feature lots of interminable narration and videophone conversations?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Completely, but they're excellent. (Actually, you can skip them if you really feel like it.)

melton mowbray (adr), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I have never been able to get into metal gear solid or any 'stealth' game. i need help.

jeffrey (johnson), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

People always tell me that, and I kind of agree with it to an extent. I can only really get as far as MGS and Manhunt, games where you can sneak around to make things easier, but still fight your way out if you get spotted. Oh! And an old dos game called D-Gen. That was great too.

melton mowbray (adr), Thursday, 10 November 2005 01:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, it was called D/Generation. I guess I just remember the name of the .bat!

melton mowbray (adr), Thursday, 10 November 2005 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, i had that game on the amiga. isometric perspective, slightly puzzle based? I hope it's the same one yr talking about because it was incredible.

jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 10 November 2005 03:10 (seventeen years ago) link

what's up[ with the new ratchet game? how did they get rid of clank? and why? is he with daxter now? has anyone actually played jak & daxter? or just jak? are they the same game?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 10 November 2005 05:17 (seventeen years ago) link

The first Jak & Daxter is pretty fun if you're into that jumping around and killing robots thing, which I am. I have the second, "darker" one but I can't get into it. They tried to incorporate some GTA bullshit where you have to run around a giant town to get to the various missions but it takes forever and if you accidentally run into a soldier than you automatically get into a huge annoying fight mode where everyone tries to kill you.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes Jeffrey, that's the one! I'm so tempted to download it and play it through again, but Advance Wars should get here soon, and I know that'll be eating up all my free time.

melton mowbray (adr), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I loaded up gitaroo man today after being reminded of it by this thread. It was pretty incredible right up until the point where the disc was too scratched and it broke.

jeffrey (johnson), Saturday, 12 November 2005 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

the first jak and daxter is really excellent. The second two seemed too aggro for my tastes.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 12 November 2005 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I got my used PS2 today along with the first Katamari and Rachet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal, yay!

Katamari is great as expected, but I can't play any more stages until my fiance does so as not to discourage her.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 00:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I love it when console generations draw to a close, and I can get the systems for cheap and cherry-pick the best games.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 00:52 (seventeen years ago) link

yes I got a ps2 last month, it is great!
so far I have:
metal gear solid 2
final fantasy x
gta vice city
gran turismo 3 a-spec
devil may cry

ratchet and clank
midnight club 2 (the last 3 came with the system. r&c is so fun!)

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Monday, 14 November 2005 01:41 (seventeen years ago) link

oh and prince of persia sands of time

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Monday, 14 November 2005 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm interested in Devil May Cry only because I heard it's based on an early version of the Resident Evil 4 engine. True? Does it play similarly?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 02:11 (seventeen years ago) link

No. Devil May Cry is boring and goth.

adam (adam), Monday, 14 November 2005 03:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i didn't like devil may cry much to be honest, i have not tried the newer ones.

jeffrey (johnson), Monday, 14 November 2005 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link


Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

might be worth trying out from netflix

also, Rygar

kingfish cold slither (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2005 06:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Ratchet & Clank IS really fun!

Tell me this though, why the fuck am I able to take the disc OUT of the PS2 and then keep playing the game??

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link


s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link


Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I only have 10 games, this is how I'd rank them:

Pro Yakyu Spirits 2005 Climax (Japan)
Katamari Damacy
MVP Baseball 2005
Minna Daisuki Katamari Damacy (Japan)
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas
Minna No Gorufu 4 (Japan)
Tony Hawk Pro Skater IV
Taiko No Tatsujin (Japan)
Kelly Slater Pro Surfer
John Carpenter's The Thing

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 24 November 2005 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Factory sealed Rez for $50.

sleep (sleep), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I have Rez. It is wonderful.

jeffrey (johnson), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes it is. Is the PS2 version substantially different from the Dreamcast?

adam (adam), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I hardly played the dreamcast version but i don't think it is v. different.

jeffrey (johnson), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

revive....any suggestions?

I want something that will make me want to play my PS2 again.

Ronan, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

that boss fight with gwendolyn is ^_^

delicate mouse tune, crash of cat chords (Lamp), Saturday, 27 December 2008 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

did you complete os?

other games not mentioned on this thread, kinda overlooked and worth picking up cos they're curios worth playing:

mr moskeeto
gregory horror show
freak out
sky odyssey
firefighter f.d. 18
echo night: beyond

games co-signed:

zone of the enders
gitaroo man

FLEETWOOD COZWN (cozwn), Saturday, 27 December 2008 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link

yah czn i beat it awhile ago. i'm actually playing through eternal poison right now (well, i will be when i get back home) but this thread is making me want to play through it again.

in the spirit of the thread title here is my T0P TEN PS2 RPGS:

01 Persona 3/FES
02 Dragon Quest VIII
03 Suikoden III
04 Dark Cloud 2
05 Rogue Galaxy
06 Odin Sphere
07 .hack - Parts 1-4: Infection to Quarantine
08 Growlanser V: Generations
09 Shadow Hearts
10 Xenosaga

limited myself to one title per series otherwise suikoden V would probably be on there too. same with some of the other shin megami/persona titles, probably nocturne.

delicate mouse tune, crash of cat chords (Lamp), Saturday, 27 December 2008 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link


I have yakuza 2 winging its way to me : )

FLEETWOOD COZWN (cozwn), Saturday, 27 December 2008 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link

(not played kuon, just liked the look of the trailer)

FLEETWOOD COZWN (cozwn), Saturday, 27 December 2008 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link

seems kind of meh but i haven't played it either. xp to myself but the first three games on my list are str8 up must plays imo they make up part of the all time cannon for me just complete classics.

delicate mouse tune, crash of cat chords (Lamp), Saturday, 27 December 2008 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah wouldn't pay more than a few bucks for these games tbh

def going to track down a copy of persona 3; want to try project zero too, heard good things

FLEETWOOD COZWN (cozwn), Saturday, 27 December 2008 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I want to own Persona 3 really bad but it is still $30 at the used games store (used). wtf?!?!

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Saturday, 27 December 2008 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I ended up getting Rogue Galaxy for $18 instead.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Saturday, 27 December 2008 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone play breath of fire: dragon quarter?

cozwn, Saturday, 10 January 2009 12:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Kuon looks amazing!

hyggeligt, Monday, 12 January 2009 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Lamp, I'm surprised you rate Suikoden III above V, for me it's the opposite... either way though, I love Suikoden, and I don't even really play JRPGs anymore.

&U HAEV MY AXE LOL (Will M.), Monday, 12 January 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

rep harder for iii on story and looks - the trinity added a lot to the game for me and the secret chapters were sick. v had better gameplay but it was blockier and slower too so much less elegant.

boys are such ruffians! (Lamp), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 05:05 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

anyone ever play the red star? pretty dope imo, it's like a cross between streets of rage style scrolling button masher and ikaruga bullet hell shmup

cozwn, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

def worth it if you can pick it up for under £3

cozwn, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone got PAL copies of these they're looking to get rid of

mgs3: subsistence
zone of the enders 2: 2nd runner
grandia 2

cozwn, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i have all those games but not PAL :((

Lamp, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i have grandia 2 on dreamcast - it's kinda grindy, then it's a magic, weird evocation, a softly-spoken but deadly articulate curse wished on its whole genre. For like an hour, halfway through. Then it's kind of grindy again.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

uhhh backlog

cozwn, Thursday, 5 February 2009 11:19 (fourteen years ago) link

looks like odin sphere o_O

FADCFTMFW (cozwn), Saturday, 7 February 2009 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

i've been acquiring a box of p2 games, having never owned one before. i think they're mainly for if i get made redundant, so i don't immediately start to panic with boredom. it's about the same size as cozwn's picture of his backlog two posts previous.

today i was playing SILENT HILL 2 and it occurred to me that its secret progenitor was ZELDA. if you take the snes one as yr zelda in point then you even get the dark world/light world bullshit from it.

thomp, Saturday, 9 May 2009 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Jeff LeVine, Sunday, 27 September 2009 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Anybody here ever play this game?

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 1 October 2009 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link

no, but it even had my gf interested and she hates videogames (except mortal kombat for some reason)

cozwn, Thursday, 1 October 2009 11:53 (thirteen years ago) link

It's a sequel / remake of the PC Engine game Gekisha Boy, btw...

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

What was that?

Nhex, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Jeff LeVine, Sunday, 4 October 2009 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

wait, what's the PS2 photo-taking game? I'm amazed it's not some mid-system life Dreamcast title

Nhex, Sunday, 4 October 2009 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

The ps2 photo one is Gekibo 2

looks like it came out in Europe too (maybe?), as Polaroid Pete

Jeff LeVine, Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

my pal says the Eu release is most likely vaporware

has anyone ever played paparazzi or demolition girl?

coz (webinar), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

my list of obscure to-play games

Polaroid Pete
Air Ranger Rescue Helicopter
Demolition Girl
Love Ping Pong
Graffiti Kingdom
Way of the Samurai
Naval Ops: Warship Gunner
Panzer Front Ausf B
Ribbit King
Street Golfer
Deep Water
Code of the Samurai
Secret Weapons over Normanday

coz (webinar), Tuesday, 20 October 2009 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Secret Weapons over Normandy

This was trash imo

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 20 October 2009 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Speaking of obscurities, my brother lent me RoomMania #203 over the weekend, but I haven't had a chance to try to play it yet.

Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

if you want a 2 player arcade game you should definitely get the ps1 Buster Bros. Collection (even though the sequels in the collection kinda suck)

hatchet, axe and saw supervisor (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 20 October 2009 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Hey cozwn, did you ever get through that PS2 backlog? Just curious!

Nhex, Thursday, 3 December 2009 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

lol if by "ps2 backlog" u mean "modern warfare 2" then probably yes

his sister was like the heat cummin off the back of an old sb (Lamp), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

lol no I sold them all for £skrilla£ on ebay

SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (cozwn), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i liked Personas 3 & 4 a whole lot. which out of these PS2 titles would i enjoy the most?
Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. The Soulless Army
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner 2: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. King Abaddon

zappi, Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

dds2 is probably the best

his sister was like the heat cummin off the back of an old sb (Lamp), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

u can buy it offa czn

his sister was like the heat cummin off the back of an old sb (Lamp), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

really i guess u should get dds + dds2 since the stories are intertwined and the story is the reason why its the best follow up to playing the persona series. its really combat focused tho but it improves on nocturne's system (which was a huge pain imo and really finnicky/spreadsheet-y) and the battles tend to stay tactically interesting rather than press x repeat. its also a quicker, less obsessive game than persona

i have not played the devil summoners btw

his sister was like the heat cummin off the back of an old sb (Lamp), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

played about an hour of dds last night, and its pretty much what i wanted - the battle system is turn based but with some strategy to it, mercifully short cut scenes - the magic upgrade system seems to be similar to the grid thing in ffx? anyway lamp knows atlus, a+ would buy from again.

zappi, Friday, 4 December 2009 11:50 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

wow! bof: dragon quarter has to be the most unconventional JRPG I've ever played. I was a bit sceptical at first but after playing it for a while I am utterly hooked now. survival horror role-play gaming at its best. \o/

shining in the darkness, digital devil saga, silent hill, panzer dragoon orta, P.N.03, ico, shadow of the colossus, icewind dale, parasite eve 2

^ this is a list of games I was reminded of while playing

first of all, presentation. it looks a lot like the SMT series, and adds silent hill's grainy video filter to emphasise the dark, gritty atmosphere of the game. it looks dirty and oppressive throughout, underlined further by ryu's, his rival bosch's and nina's character design. they look ghastly (and in nina's case, frail). and there's also that incomprehensible narrator, as in pdo or sotc. to be honest, in my opinion BoF5 is more unsettling than some survival horror games (ie project zero).

then there's the gameplay. only one save slot, and you have to use one of those rare tokens to save? this will never work! thankfully I was proved wrong. it took me a fair while to understand how the game really works, but now I am convinced that capcom wanted to create the ultimate arcadey dungeon crawler. it's a bit like shining in the darkness. you enter the dungeon and try to get as far as possible (leveling up in the process). then when the going gets tough you return to the city hub, buy new items and tackle the dungeon again, which should be easier now that you're at a higher level. only in the this game the battle system is vastly more sophisticated and nearly as good as grandia's. this adds elements from P.N. 03 to the game, in that you will want to do a "perfect run". you can use the environment, traps and area effect spells (!) to your advantage, but as in P.N. 03 you're often overwhelmed when you first enter a new room. the battle system is much closer to bioware's RPGs such as icewind dale than it is to the traditional japanese systems.

next, the story. so... reduced, like ico; nina does look and act a lot like yorda too, come to think of it albeit a bit more proactive. ryu's determination to change fate has sotc vibes, with the twist that ryu is living on borrowed time, what with the D-counter that happily ticks away even if you never change into your dragon form. I have no clue what the ending is going to be like, but somehow I don't expect to see a happy one!

a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Saturday, 20 February 2010 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

tl;dr sick game

a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Saturday, 20 February 2010 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

lately i really feel like a week bunkered + playing old videogames again.

thomp, Saturday, 20 February 2010 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

lol coz who wrote that?

just supersayin (Lamp), Saturday, 20 February 2010 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

dude on ~another~ forum

I basically agree

a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Saturday, 20 February 2010 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

I went on a perilous expedition to a Gamestop in the boondox of LA in the hopes of finding this game for cheap but was foiled by the store's organizational incompetence :(

looks fun as fuck though. I don't really have time for massive RPGs with weeks of playtime (sez the guy who went home and ordered a copy of Persona 4 from Amazon in semi-protest) so a 10-hr arcade-y dungeon crawler sounds like a win to me.

/no cobo (jamescobo), Monday, 22 February 2010 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

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