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I'm a doofus and I managed it. program is very good and I just followed a YouTube tutorial on how to do it. I was surprised at how easy it was

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 9 February 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

The very first thing you'll do is back up the original kernel, and if anything goes wrong, just flash that back on there and it's factory reset. It's pretty much unbrickable tbh. I mean absolute worst case scneario, if you somehow mess it up and lose your kernel backup, pm me and I'll send you mine.

JimD, Friday, 9 February 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link

love this thread, i used to run a website with the express goal of reviewing every snes game. i went back and read some and it's uhhh definitely not good and/or written in this modern era (caught myself dropping both the r- and t- words in at least one article that i vaguely remembered as my fave, so, that's not great)

i have such wonderful memories of illusion of gaia, what an intensely lonely game

flippy bard (Will M.), Friday, 9 February 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link

Thanks for the help guys, I'll probably look a little more into it but despite any actual level of risk I'm still just going to refrain so I don't get in trouble!

Speaking of reviews, I tend to rely on this guy to inform me about all the titles I don't necessarily know much about:

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfBLXTwLoUpDAkHcHizW3Jg

Evan, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link

caught myself dropping both the r- and t- words in at least one article that i vaguely remembered as my fave, so, that's not great

To be fair, Mallow is both those things

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link

@ Evan, hack the SNES, it's a challenge but not a challenge

Message me privately and I'll link you to ROMs

Starfox is the greatest game ever and frankly "on-rails 3D space shooter" should've been an entire genre of game and I'm disappointed that it wasn't. Even "one or two levels" on Starfox Zero were so thrilling, I don't know why more resources weren't put into this genre

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link

The ROMs part of it I've got covered, actually! If any of you have a Mac and a usb controller, OpenEmu is fantastic. That's what I use.

http://openemu.org/

Evan, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link

@ Evan, hack the SNES, it's a challenge but not a challenge

Message me privately and I'll link you to ROMs

Starfox is the greatest game ever and frankly "on-rails 3D space shooter" should've been an entire genre of game and I'm disappointed that it wasn't. Even "one or two levels" on Starfox Zero were so thrilling, I don't know why more resources weren't put into this genre

― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, February 9, 2018 10:51 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i thought star fox was awesome personally. i found it hard and could never complete it despite trying thousands of times tho.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 9 February 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link

The ROMs part of it I've got covered, actually! If any of you have a Mac and a usb controller, OpenEmu is fantastic. That's what I use.

http://openemu.org/

― Evan

^ ditto

also yeah, i loved starfox. it had its flaws but i played through it many, many times.

Karl Malone, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link

it WAS really hard! there were multiple routes you could take to the end, though, and eventually i found one that i could reliably complete.

Karl Malone, Friday, 9 February 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link

openemu is definitely good

I bought a usb controller that was either made with an original snes controller mold, or copied very well, and it's nearly perfect. The buttons are about 90% there, but probably play better than my worn out old controllers.

mh, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link

that's 8bitdo, right?
man i wish i had time to play all this stuff.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link

I was going to guess ibuffalo controller

8bitdo is more known for being wireless vs. another "usb controller" (even though that's what it becomes if you plug it in with the charging wire)

Evan, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link

I might be misremembering how decent the buttons were! It's been a while. Amazon says I bought this, maybe it's actually hot garbage and I don't know better: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0034ZOAO0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

mh, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link

Starfox SNES was hard, Starfox 64 was mostly easy until "Venom 1, expert mode" which is the most difficult thing I've ever attempted

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 9 February 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link

In Star Fox mythos it bothers me that Peppy becomes an old geezer so fucking fast. The only good Peppy is SNES Peppy (my favorite SNES Starfox companion).

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 9 February 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link

SNES Starfox always felt like a slow, boring tech demo to me, but Starfox 64 absolutely should have led to a whole genre or at least a single robust entry per console, like Zelda and Mario Kart. Delightful, kid-friendly narrative shooter, not about insane twitchy perfection (until the late game on the hard path, yeah) but just the satisfaction of doing loop-the-loops and blowing stuff to polygonal smithereens.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:15 (six years ago) link

I've said this elsewhere (probably more than once) but what always appealed to me about Galaga and then good schmups afterward (anything Treasure made) is that the spectacle and pleasure come not only from gameplay and design but the thrill of excellent 'choreography'-- that is, that these landscapes and enemies might be designed to reveal themselves and respond to player input in an aesthetically appealing sense-- this particular neural network was activated when I was 8 and played Galaga 88 for the first time and literally saw the aliens dancing to waltzes and tangos

Starfox did the exact same thing but in a 3D environment and I tried to explain to friends what it was about Starfox (specifically) that differentiated its effect on my internal response from other space combat games (Wing Commander-derived free-combat) or other on-rails games (Crash Bandicoot) but I guess it just became a dry subject

But it's clear to me too that the very designers of Starfox themselves ~didn't get what made the game so great~ as they introduced all-range mode into Starfox 64 and other increasingly obnoxious addendums and footnotes to what I liked about the original SNES (and 64) games: being overwhelmed with enemies as you fly through the wreckage of a fleet, giant frigates appearing and the Arwing flying in closely to take out a few turrets, asteroid ballet, twisting internal corridors to reach the engine core, trench runs and so on

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 9 February 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link

that's a great post. the all-range mode levels/bosses in starfox 64 are definitely a huge step down from the on-rails ones. but you still have so much great on-rails stuff. and the way enemies can pop up (and get blown up) in formation gets at least a little of that galaga choreography, no?

Doctor Casino, Friday, 9 February 2018 23:20 (six years ago) link

Yes! That's what I like about it. There's something about it that's like... an interactive ballet

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 10 February 2018 02:14 (six years ago) link

Ok so what do you think of Starfox 2?

Evan, Saturday, 10 February 2018 16:24 (six years ago) link

Unfortunately, Starfox 2 does not have a high enough frame rate to be an effective allegorical attack on the Trump administration

— Gold medal in Olympic finger skating (@owenpallett) October 27, 2017

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 10 February 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link

So I discovered that Tetris Attack two player is ridiculously addictive

Also started playing Chrono Trigger.

Badgers (dog latin), Monday, 12 February 2018 15:52 (six years ago) link

we had a tradition of spending all our downtime between studying/tests at the end of college semesters sitting around playing tetris attack! good times

mh, Monday, 12 February 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link

Multiplayer Tetris attack is one of the most underrated games ever, imo

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 February 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link

yeah, that and puzzle fighter on PS1 were prob the biggest games outside of tony hawk when I was in college. <3 gargantua blarg forever.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 12 February 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

i didn't know that game until the DS version of Puzzle League came out, but yeah it rules

Nhex, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 02:25 (six years ago) link

By the time I forward that to someone who needs it it'll be too late I'm sure

Evan, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link

they've been sticking around a bit longer; give it a try

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:02 (six years ago) link

I jumped! Thanks ulysses.

Nhex, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

Anybody getting this thing? To me the downside of the classic is that it won't play cartridges, but this does.

https://www.polygon.com/2018/2/7/16934180/super-nt-review-super-nintendo-snes-analogue

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link

not snes related but that review reminds me that my new tv doesn't have a vga input so the next time I want to hook up the ol' dreamcast I'm going to have to do some thinking

mh, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link

just snagged a snes mini off amazon, mainly to troll old lunch

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link

Congrats on your successful troll!

So does anyone have the deets of the guy who's assembling these things by hand so I can ask him to text me once he finishes another one in two or three weeks time?

You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:20 (six years ago) link

But seriously: this has to be the work of asshole speculators snatching up every extra unit the second they hit the streets. Grade-A BS!

You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link

fyi I’ll be happy to sell you mine with just a modest 150% finder’s fee

albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:30 (six years ago) link

i am willing to chip in my muscle and street smarts and keep watch on the edge of the alley, $200 + free snacks for my friends

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link

I will weigh your offers carefully.

If my interest were based more on nostalgia than making up for missing out on a bunch of classic games (aside from the fifteen minutes or so I spent playing them on friends' Nintendo consoles, as we were more of a Sega/C64 family), I'd probably just bite the bullet and pay whatever extortionate rate someone wanted to charge for one.

You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:04 (six years ago) link

Like I'm pretty sure I've never played a Donkey Kong Country game, or any Zelda beyond the first. Probably played the first stage of Super Mario World at some point, and then nothing until one that was released for the Wii. You get the picture.

You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:07 (six years ago) link

it's wild these days, I went from joking with a friend about Donkey Kong to playing a really well emulated Donkey Kong Country on my computer in about ten minutes not long ago. And my cheap-ass snes knockoff controller was good enough for DKC. I can still time those rolls over the pits pretty well.

mh, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:19 (six years ago) link

Yeah, there are certain respects in which the future is kinda awesome. Like having a bunch of games I played the shit out of 20+ years ago loaded on my Vita, ready to play when/wherever.

You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:36 (six years ago) link

I largely want an excuse to finally play through Super Metroid

Nhex, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 03:39 (six years ago) link

Ooh I played that for a second last night and got destroyed by the first Chozo Comes Alive! moment

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 04:01 (six years ago) link

there's a shop down the street from me that has all the old snes games, i think they might also have some stuff that plays the old carts

the eye-opening moment for me re: emulation was when intellivision games became emulable, god those intellivision controllers were flat garbage

mostly i'm trying to convince the spouse to let me buy a vectrex but we keep wanting to, like, make house payments and stuff

to get it back on topic the snes rpgs are the best rpgs ever made

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 04:27 (six years ago) link

Super Metroid is so great. Really looking forward to replaying that one. I still get the music from the Crateria Caverns stuck in my head.

Something I'm really enjoying with Chrono Trigger is how it manages to use the SNES's limited graphics as an advantage, in that it's not always clear whether a wall is a wall or more a staircase. You can be running around a maze for a while and then suddenly the way out will just pop out at you. Good for hidden passages and secrets too.

I'd love to read (or maybe write) a short ode to the top-down RPG genre. So many tropes to be discussed and dissected and I love how Earthbound played with a lot of those tropes. Also I have been having fun calling my characters things like 'Fucky' and 'Arses'

Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:04 (six years ago) link

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albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:16 (six years ago) link

Ya my first exposure to any Final Fantasy game was FF2 at a friend's house

Protagonist's name was Lezbo

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 14:39 (six years ago) link

Never a bad time to revive this imo: What do you name your peepz in RPGs?

You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link


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