We Love Katamari: the best game ever made?

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It's possible.

Laura H. (laurah), Saturday, 8 October 2005 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Which bit of the subject do you want us to discuss?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Saturday, 8 October 2005 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm just saying. I think this might possibly be the best game I have ever played. But I'm wondering how much of that is novelty, and whether I'll feel the same way about it in say 5 years, or when the graphics seem more antiquated. Really though, I think it's just fundamentally well-designed, insanely fun, and really inventive even compared to the original Katamari.

It's not particularly goal oriented, but the level of challenge is really perfect and often self-designated. It never gets frustrating or boring. The incremental increases in difficulty challenge you to play better, not for the sake of winning, but because the game is incredibly rewarding for its own sake. Usually when I play a game this compulsively it's because I want to kick the game's ass and "win" in some sense. This game I don't even want to complete. It's like an incredibly good book that I want to keep reading but never finish.

Laura H. (laurah), Saturday, 8 October 2005 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I loved it at first, but was disappointed by the all unlockable post-ending levels. I can understand having no rewards for obsessive play (like the first one), but if you put them in, they should at least be fun.

Admittedly, maybe I'm missing something-- I haven't gotten 100% of the items. Not sure I plan to go that far.

SFF (jjrj), Saturday, 8 October 2005 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

That is a fantastic feeling, it's like the reward for playing is more playing and that's fine? It's quite rare for a game to just get that right without a snag to annoy you. The last game that I got that off was the third Ratchet game.

I think sequels have a better chance because there's more feedback from people playing it, they can see what works and what doesn't. But most sequels want to stick in an unnecesary twist to "keep interest", and in a lot of them, the new thing acts like a jagged metal Krusty-O, stripping away enjoyment from stuff you liked pretty much perfectly in the first game. I am here thinking of the second Jak game.

Is the hit purer because it's such a simple mechanic? Is it simple? We never got the first one here and the new one isn't out until November, I think.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Saturday, 8 October 2005 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I read a review that got at it pretty well--the simplicity of the mechanic is part of it, and it's also that the game is made with such joy and care. There's also the variety of things you're going to see as you're making your way through the levels--more than just about any other game, you're never going to go about it the same way twice, and you have a constantly changing perspective as the katamari grows. The game is always giving you something just a little new--even when you're rolling around for twenty minutes, at the end of the level you're still like OMG I CAN PICK UP RAINBOWS!!

I do think it's the best game ever made.

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 8 October 2005 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

although I'm not sure which I would pick between the original and the sequel, I'm not done with the sequel yet.

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 8 October 2005 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Considering the fact that I absolutely dominated the first game, I'm surprised how mediocre my performance has been with respect to the sequel. The King continues to call my katamaris small or average, and I'm feeling a wee bit inadequate.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 8 October 2005 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, but that makes it so much more satisfying when he actually does start to compliment you. He's really manipulative.

Laura H. (laurah), Saturday, 8 October 2005 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I wish there were a way to tell if you've done the best you can on each board. I'm wandering around aimlessly.
Which is okay, but part of me wants to defeat this thing entirely.
Best combo: the mushroom headed cousin, with the bikini and the Mt. Fuji hat. Sheer genius.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 October 2005 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I still think Xenogears is the best game ever made but this is an indefensible position I have no interest in defending. However I bought We Love Katamari today; we'll see!

allenalenelnalenelnae (allenriley), Sunday, 9 October 2005 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I like the horsey!

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Sunday, 9 October 2005 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I wish there were a way to tell if you've done the best you can on each board.

There is! When the King puts your katamari up in the cosmos, it'll either have no glow behind it (lowest rank), a pale corona (middle rank) or rotating beams of light coming from behind it (highest).

For a while I thought this only worked with planets, not satellites, but I think I actually just suck at the speed levels.

SFF (jjrj), Sunday, 9 October 2005 04:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I zipped through to the sumo level on my first play yesterday. My dude was real fat but I still got the lazer beam eyez. :(

polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 9 October 2005 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

You can dodge em! Did ya know?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 10 October 2005 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I did not!

Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 10 October 2005 11:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I think just to fuck with you people I'm going to join Allen in claiming that Xenogears is better

TOMBOT, Monday, 10 October 2005 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i need to play this tonight

Magin Johnson's magical AIDS thrfit store (dr g), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think that's really going to fuck with anyone. xpost

Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually the best game ever made is still Baldur's Gate II. Sorry.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 October 2005 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

"a jagged metal Krusty-O"

amazing.

gang grape (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link

it's definitely my favorite game ever, but it's also the only game I've really played in many years

I couldn't decide between the original & the sequel... the original one has better music, funnier King rants & intermissions, and makes a stranger, weirder first impression

But there are so many more worlds in this version, you can play for much longer and just get lost... and the graphics are markedly sharper this time, no more lo-res artifacts, the angled katamari shapes you can roll up on the Origami level are just _impossible_

I only have the extended rip from the game itself, not the CD soundtrack, but here's the racing level

http://s29.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0X5FE2LR1XTEZ18F05BUANRZLV

milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

YAY THANK YOU. SO MUCH BETTER

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.etsy.com/view_detail_images.php?id=40568

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I cannot for the live of me light the campfire the second time. My the time I get to the campfire I'm almost outta juice and the thing won't light.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

For the life of me, rather. Brain, dying.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Focus on getting bigger instead of getting to the kindling. That should help.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 October 2005 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I need to pierce my ears and buy those!! xxxpost

Laura H. (laurah), Friday, 14 October 2005 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link

so many boxes of text to click through!! such repetitive mediocre jokes!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 16 October 2005 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link

press one start button

zappi (joni), Sunday, 16 October 2005 07:34 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20051013/kata02.jpg

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 16 October 2005 11:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Saturday was a nonstop Katamari day; I'm short about four cousins and two presents.
3067 Meters on the world map! Can you roll up the King?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 16 October 2005 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

What is that picture??

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 16 October 2005 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

King's sportin' quite a package, there

kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 16 October 2005 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

it's a poster celebrating the 50th (?!) anniversary of namco, apparently

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 16 October 2005 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

and I want it SO bad!!

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 16 October 2005 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

the story behind dean's pic:

Some enterprising gamer rigged up a Goldbergian cheat in order to collect one million roses in the We Love Katamari game, sequel to the sleeper hit Katamari Damacy. Once he had collected his one millionth rose, he got a special thank you from the King of All Cosmos, pictured at right. Here’s a description of the trick:

”On Friday night I hooked up a PS2 controller to a sturdy wooden chair with some string so it is immobile. I then taped the left analog stick in the forward direction. Then I put an oscilating fan in front of the controler-chair setup. To the fan, I attached a string with a loop on the end of it. I put this loop around the other analog controller so that when the fan oscilates, it pulls the stick in different directions.”

[Here’s a video of the cheat in action.]

PC gamers would have just rustled up a special script to perform the repetitive action, but console gamers have to be much more creative.

via joystiq

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 16 October 2005 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.zestuff.com/product_image.php?imageid=143

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

ihttp://home.comcast.net/~jandmflores/24Cousins.jpg

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

My PS2 was retrieved from New Orleans this weekend. So I FINALLY GOT IT and am VERY HAPPY INDEED.

adam (adam), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Though I miss the BLEAAAAAAH rainbow.

adam (adam), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

How do you dodge the laser eyes?

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

with the analog sticks. he aways gets you though.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 01:20 (fourteen years ago) link

this is not the best game ever made, i think.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 20 October 2005 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Results 1 - 10 of about 32 for "i hate katamari". (0.69 seconds)

32!! and most of them didn't even mean it

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 20 October 2005 03:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't hate it though (just to clarify)

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 20 October 2005 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link

"katamari damacy sucks" gets quite a bit more

allenalenelnalenelnae (allenriley), Thursday, 20 October 2005 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Results 1 - 10 of about 982 for "no way s1ocki!!". (0.69 seconds)

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 20 October 2005 06:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i am going to play it tonight in this threads honour.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 30 June 2006 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I just bought one of these for my Katamari-loving friend.

schwantz (schwantz), Sunday, 2 July 2006 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

OMFG!

jeffrey (johnson), Sunday, 2 July 2006 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

WANT.

permanent revolution (cis), Sunday, 2 July 2006 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...
so i haven't played katamari in a long time so help me out with the plot. when does the prince find out the king of all cosmos is his father (the start, never) ?

kephm (kephm), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link

so

kephm (kephm), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link

You people are bastards. Do you know why? Well?

Thanks to all the fuss you all made about this game in the past it was after months of fretting that I went on to ebay and bought a second hand PS2 and this game JUST SO AS I COULD SEE WHAT THE FUSS WAS ALL ABOUT!

This had better be as good as promised!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 18 August 2006 09:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah you're not really bastards. I love you all, I was only playing.

Or was I...

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 18 August 2006 09:47 (thirteen years ago) link

It's possible.


I was chatting to my boss about this game yesterday and even though he's never played it, or even heard of it, he said it sounded pretty incredible. I'm not sure if he was listening, but the way he reacted made it sound like he was.

melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Friday, 18 August 2006 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

kephm, it's explained in the endless dialogue that begins the first game.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 18 August 2006 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

One key clue is that his name is the King of the Cosmos and your name is the Prince, which is usually what you'd call a king's son.

What I want to know is: where did the Cousins come from? Do they have parents as well? On the King's side or the Queen's side? Are they powerful and skilled in rolling things up?

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

::Puts hands over ears:: LALALALALALALALALALALALALA

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Saturday, 19 August 2006 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man that second post was supposed to be a strike not an italic. and yeah polyphonic i had that much. it's just that i wasn't even sure if and when the prince even knows he is is the prince from the start or what. my memory is bit off, i still remember how to punch out Mr Dream but cant recall any of the plot to a game i played two years back, hell i had to wiki to even remeber he was the prince. gracias shasta

kephm (kephm), Saturday, 19 August 2006 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Mr. Dream was pretty tough.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 19 August 2006 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I.LOVE.THIS.GAME.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 24 August 2006 07:36 (thirteen years ago) link

RIP: Katamari Cellphone Charm

T_T

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 24 August 2006 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

dead? how?

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 25 August 2006 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link

the plastic loop on the back of his head cracked off. his face looks pretty mangy too.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 25 August 2006 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

you can have my spare if you want. the string loop thing broke off it though.

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 25 August 2006 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I might be crazy, but is this a road sign with the prince on it?
http://static.flickr.com/111/284542253_bc68b02f6e.jpg

treefell (treefell), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link

it might be jungle in a snowy environment

sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

i finally played this. it was pretty great.

tom west (thomp), Thursday, 2 November 2006 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I am posting this picture AT ALL PLACES EVER hurrah!! But look who I made, you lot!

http://static.flickr.com/120/285684817_b41079b117.jpg

Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Only all the other cousins to go!

Seriously though, that's fantastic!

I need a new phone dangly thing... To ebay I may go to seek a little rolly person to blink with joy upon receipt of calls etc etc etc

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 2 November 2006 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...
YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!

gff, Monday, 7 May 2007 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

It's possible, right?

melton mowbray, Monday, 7 May 2007 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

No. I still think Baseball Stars for the NES is the best game ever made.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

im pretty sure espn x games proboarder for psone kicks everyones ass

http://dpost.jp/article/bururun_03_03.jpg

sunny successor, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

No. I still think Baseball Stars for the NES is the best game ever made.

YES YOU ARE CORRECT!!!

David R., Tuesday, 8 May 2007 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

Would anyone have a decent or working PAL copy of the original Katamari Damacy to sell? I can't seem to find one anywhere!!

kv_nol, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:33 (twelve years ago) link

Crap. Just checked wikipedia:

The original game did not get a release in PAL territories such as Europe and Australia, since publishers thought it was too "quirky" for these markets

FU marketing!

kv_nol, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:37 (twelve years ago) link

I like the implication there that the U.S. is more into quirky than Europe or Australia!

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 12:51 (twelve years ago) link

I don't because it means that I don't get to play the first Katamari!

kv_nol, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 13:01 (twelve years ago) link

Please convince me that Beautiful Katamari may somehow make it to Europe.

There's no release date and the "EU TBA" notice on gamefaqs has been quietly dropped :(

V, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

Now THIS is exciting (from ign)...

PlayStation Premier: Katamari Damacy Creator Delivers New PS3 Game
First artwork for Nobi Nobi Boy
by Anoop Gantayat

US, July 17, 2007 - Bandai Namco Games unleashed a big surprise at Sony's PlayStation Premier event today in Tokyo with the announcement of an all new game from Katamari Damacy creator Keita Takahashi.

Titled Nobi Nobi Boy, all we have on this PlayStation 3 title are just a couple of pieces of artwork. The artwork and name ("Nobi" can mean "to stretch" in Japanese) suggests that the game will center around a flexible wormlike creature of some form.

We expect more details to surface shortly, so be sure and check back soon!

Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

http://uk.media.ps3.ign.com/articles/805/805606/imgs_1.html

Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

ps3 purchase validated

webber, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 04:17 (twelve years ago) link

It does look very much like snake on the old Nokia!

I'm going to hold off until GTA IV is released and then decide.

kv_nol, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 09:04 (twelve years ago) link

Is €23.00 a lot to spend on t shirt to make up for lack of first katamari game y/n?

kv_nol, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 10:31 (twelve years ago) link

Too late!

kv_nol, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 11:15 (twelve years ago) link

A truck just honked outside my window and I instantly thought: "Someone has rolled up a green bus"

kv_nol, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 11:41 (twelve years ago) link

haha

Ste, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://lebowski.ytmnd.com/

stupid

chaki, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

"The Wonderful End Of The World"

katamari for the PC, available through Steam. but reports suggest it's way too easy and nowhere near as good as the katamari games. Anyone played it here?

Ste, Sunday, 20 July 2008 11:38 (eleven years ago) link

does anyone ever want to play or think about or make crafts based on this game again?

s1ocki, Sunday, 20 July 2008 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

I loved it, but no.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 July 2008 11:39 (eleven years ago) link

eleven years pass...

okay so Wattam is out tomorrow. i don't think i understand what it is.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/16/21021203/wattam-review-ps4-pc-katamari

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 16 December 2019 20:22 (one month ago) link

That follows, as I was never able to figure out what the hell Noby Noby Boy was.

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Monday, 16 December 2019 20:26 (one month ago) link

i don't plan to learn what wattam is before playing it

ciderpress, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 06:00 (one month ago) link

https://lexaloffle.com/bbs/?tid=36292

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 30 December 2019 21:17 (three weeks ago) link


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