Elden Ring: YOU DIED on a horse

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S is the only thing better than A scaling, which was weird to me when I started these games, but apparently has to do with the Japanese grading system in schools?

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 12:42 (two years ago) link

ahhh okay thanks, makes sense

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 12:46 (two years ago) link

S for Special

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 12:59 (two years ago) link

is how I break it down to an extent

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 12:59 (two years ago) link

Now I come to think of it, I think Death Stranding used S as the top tier score for runs

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 14:24 (two years ago) link

So I gave Thop's bell bearing to the Twin Maiden Husks but all it did was make the original shitty spells he was trying to sell me available from them. What a crock!

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 14:38 (two years ago) link

There are two kinds - npc bell bearings that let you access the items they sell after they're dead, and smithing stone bell bearings that let you buy upgrade materials (obviously super valuable).

Smithing stone bell bearings are almost always found in a mine, and then usually behind some hidden wall or out of the way place (although I think a few are boss drops).

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 14:59 (two years ago) link

I looked up the location of a few of them because they seemed so essential, at least if you want to experiment with upgrading different weapons.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 15:00 (two years ago) link

ty Jordan for explaining things far better than I did!

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 15:02 (two years ago) link

two things in this game that seem unreasonably hard in a way that does not seem intentional in the way that other things are unreasonably hard in this game:
* judging how far you can fall without completely dying
* maneuvering torrent down those cliffside gravestone steps without plummeting all the way down and dying

na (NA), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 17:28 (two years ago) link

drop a rainbow stone off the ledge. if it breaks so will you. if it glows happily u may jump

adam, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 17:30 (two years ago) link

There are a couple tricks to the first one:
-Use a rainbow stone, if it shatters then you'll die if you fall that far (the intended way, no doubt)
-Try attacking right at the edge - if it lets the attack move you off of the ledge, then it's a safe fall. If not, it's because it's a lethal fall and there's a guardrail in place so that you don't accidentally fall off because you pressed an attack button.

For those gravestone steps, I can never decide whether to use the horse or not. Torrent can take any fall damage and you have the double jump to possibly save you in case you mess up, but also feels less precise than just doing it sans-horse.

xp

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 17:34 (two years ago) link

and you have the double jump to possibly save you in case you mess up

lol, the classic way i die is to get the horse jump right on the first try, and then second-guess myself just before i land, using the double-jump, and then being WAY OFF with that and dying

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 17:44 (two years ago) link

but yeah, i'm always accidentally dying like that. 3D platforming is very hard for me, always has been. 2D platforming used to be my wheelhouse.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link

also, i call the horse Birdie because Torrent is not a good enough name for the horse imo

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 17:46 (two years ago) link

i don't think double jumping at the end of a lethal fall diminishes the fall damage

adam, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 17:57 (two years ago) link

yeah, i don't think so either. my goal with the double-jump is usually to "fix" what i decide at the last moment was a horrible first jump

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 18:01 (two years ago) link

oh when you go careening off a cliff to your doom? big fan

adam, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 18:24 (two years ago) link

it's classic

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 18:25 (two years ago) link

nothing like doing a potato bug roll right off the edge of a big honkin mountain

na (NA), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 18:52 (two years ago) link

one move i also like to do, i call it my "taunt", is to accidentally be using a bow when i think i'm holding my shield up, and then to panic and drink a health flask, all as the enemy is slowly walking up and swinging at me

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 18:55 (two years ago) link

i formally challenge all bad elden rings to a contest to see how slowly we can beat this game

i'm around 90 hours in, godrick is my highest level defeated boss

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 18:55 (two years ago) link

it's sad, i was thinking of streaming some of my sessions on twitch, but i really am so bad that it crosses over into actively annoying, even without my voice

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 18:56 (two years ago) link

i haven't really figured out what i want to do after defeating godrick. i started working through carian academy and quickly got overwhelmed by the magic-sucking skeletons.

na (NA), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 19:25 (two years ago) link

The initial entry into the Academy might be the hardest part? Or at least the most chaotic (that outdoor area with all the skeletons and dogs).

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 19:31 (two years ago) link

yeah that's where i got frustrated

na (NA), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 19:36 (two years ago) link

No shame in running through

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link

you can also just walk around it and then hit everyone guarding the entrance from behind

Bongo Jongus, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 20:57 (two years ago) link

unless you're talking about something else, I haven't entered the academy yet

Bongo Jongus, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 20:58 (two years ago) link

Trayce, it sounds like you've progressed further than me in the game and I'm level 67. Still dweebing around Lirunia and haven't got to Renalla yet! Need to fight that annoying Knight in Raya Lucaria with the big marble that squashes you before you fight him.

Oh I havent foght any big boss aside from Godrick and Lenonine ! I just run into all these areas, blow raspberries, nick stuff and fuck off again, lol.

I only just now got the twinblade weapon, stumbled on it by chance (and then fell off the cliff lol) so I'm gonna give it a try with blood ashes.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 23:17 (two years ago) link

Oh and i formally challenge all bad elden rings to a contest to see how slowly we can beat this game

Ha you are ON. I will see you back here in 2025.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 23:22 (two years ago) link

NA I was frustrated by those magic-scking zombies too, if you let it happen they can overwhelm you completely.

Then I worked out its easier to just run, all the way to the ... ferris-wheel... thing. Which I then panic-jumped from and just happened to do so at the right bit without meaning to. There's another save spot after that.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 23:24 (two years ago) link

This game sure is making me feel frustrated and stupid from time to time. I'd been told there was a stonesmith who sold smithing stones somewhere in Liurnia but didn't know exactly where. I'd spent AGES looking for a way to get to the north west of the map, including a good couple of hours mucking around in some underwhleming ruins where a secret boss was hiding. Eventually I caved and asked my partner where the smithing stone dude was. Turns out he was on the other side of a TEN FOOT WALL which you CANNOT SEE OR GET OVER in the EXACT area I'd spent AGES in the previous night, and the only way to access it was to find this one exact spot on an unassuming cliff edge and take a literal leap of faith into what looks like nothing to get around the wall. I would NEVER have gone back to that area in a million years, and I certainly wouldn't have even know dude was there if I hadn't been given a hint. I know that's sort of the point of this game, but fencing off a key part of the map like that feels incredibly harsh!

Cue: Everyone telling me they found the area really easily with no fuss!

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 10:53 (two years ago) link

(sorry if that's spoilery - should have hidden the text)

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 10:56 (two years ago) link

Haha I have actually no idea where it is you're talking about DL and I feel like I'm pretty familiar with Liurnia at this point

There was one character named something like Putney who is kinda tucked away inconspicuously inside the manor, I never ran into him in my normal playthrough, only found him when consulting guides, later

My PS5 is still bricked, and not under warranty, and it's gonna cost me 1/3rd of what I paid for it to get it repaired. Just to check and see if the problem WAS in fact the game unit, I plugged in my PS4 to test out the cable/TV input. Works fine. Oh hello! You mean I can just log into my PSN account and download already-purchased Elden Ring for PS4 and still have something to play while my PS5 is in the shop? I did so, and it looks rather good on PS4! but the load times were a few seconds longer, long enough for me to feel irritated. Plus, my boyfriend saw what I was doing and gave me a "we have to have a talk" look

flow, my crimson tears (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 11:59 (two years ago) link

I did watch a video last night, curious about how people do accelerated early-game builds. Apparently:

- you can ride Torrent around Caelid and pick up enough Somber Smithing Stones to get a weapon to +6
- you can cheese the Dragonbarrow Night's Cavalry by doing a trench run through the poison and net you 50k runes right away
- there's a weird way of killing the inert dragon that gets you 100k runes

I also find that watching videos of people playing PvP (who are good at it) is more enjoyable than actually playing PvP

flow, my crimson tears (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 12:03 (two years ago) link

Haha I have actually no idea where it is you're talking about DL and I feel like I'm pretty familiar with Liurnia at this point

There was one character named something like Putney who is kinda tucked away inconspicuously inside the manor, I never ran into him in my normal playthrough, only found him when consulting guides, later

I'm pretty sure this is the route to the manor - the only route I know of. I had been trying to find a way up the steep cliff towards it from the Lake, and finding nothing. That's what led to me pratting around in the Kingstemple Ruins (Kingstemple? I think so) for ages. If there's another way to get to the Manor, I'd love to know because this whole thing made me very cross indeed

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 12:58 (two years ago) link

above I meant Kings Realm Ruins and the stonesmith is called Ilj. I simply do not understand how anyone is meant to get over the wall without either totally fluking it or reading a guide because it's absolutely not obvious

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 13:03 (two years ago) link

The weird thing is that now I'm looking up guides, none of them seem to mention this ridiculous wall, they just say "Go north from X Grace Point", so I'm wondering if I've missed something obvious, despite having spent hours trying to reach it.

I'll shut up about this now, I'm just frustrated

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 13:06 (two years ago) link

Dl, are you talking about the friendly giant with the cool headwear? Sorry, I don't remember a crazy jump, I just happened upon him, I think you must have missed a path!

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 13:11 (two years ago) link

Yeah that's him. Reading a book. Every YouTube guide seems to say either you jump around the wall over a cliff (narrowly avoiding thin air) or there's one specific secret wall in the maze-like Kingsrealm ruins which you have to hit to reveal the path. On the East side of the wall there's a sheer cliff drop down towards the lakeside. So I'm bamboozled really.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 14:00 (two years ago) link

DL, are you playing online? I seem to recall finding the wall in question because a friendly stranger had marked it with a message.

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 14:05 (two years ago) link

Ohhh, looking back I guess there was an illusory wall involved, which is not obvious (obviously).

lol fgti, forgive me but when you were initially talking about your work/Elden Ring/sleep schedule, I was thinking that you must be between relationships at the moment. :)

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 14:06 (two years ago) link

Bahahahahaha my bf might agree with you

flow, my crimson tears (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 14:12 (two years ago) link

I don't recall any issue with meeting Iji! I think I just approached the manor and there he was?

flow, my crimson tears (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 14:13 (two years ago) link

I think I completely forgot that Iji was next to an illusory wall

If I hadn't subbed to ps plus for a year just before this came out I don't think I would have found any of the illusory walls at all, but I would also have seen far fewer references to rump ahead and finger but hole so swings and roundabouts

I am level 64 60 hours in now. Finally pulled ahead of the 1 level an hour ratio by killing the dang prawn sorcerers and big lumbering shit dragon

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 14:16 (two years ago) link

I'm behind the curve! Level 100, 116 hours in. I could probably use some of the many golden runes I've been hoarding, but I generally save those for getting me just past the finish when I'm 2/3rds or closer to the next level. I'm at Volcano Manor right now, doubled back after exploring a little bit of the Mountaintops of the Giants. It feels like I may never truly finish this game.

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 14:26 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I'm the same. My mid-game leveling spot when I needed a couple of thou to push to a level up was the Volcano Manor interrogation chamber site of grace, backstab the mage, kill the cum slug guy after he whiffs his death grab, lightning Spear the fire slugs, back to the save point. Anybody got anything better? I can't reliably/quickly kill those annoying mobile flamethrower things to get the 2k they drop

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 14:34 (two years ago) link

I don't recall any issue with meeting Iji! I think I just approached the manor and there he was?

― flow, my crimson tears (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, April 6, 2022 3:13 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Well this is it, my partner said "You just head north from the Gracepoint towards the massive Manor, you can't miss it" and I'm like "There is nothing here, just the ruins and a sheer cliff drop". She seemed to say she'd just trotted on up there - no mention of a wall, not even mention of the ruins. There weren't any messages left to tell me there was a wall or anything like that.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 14:39 (two years ago) link

I mean, the wall is pretty high - it blocks the manor and Ilj (you can just about spot him through a hole in the wall if you're facing at exactly the right angle, but you'd need to be looking out for him - not the kind of thing you'd just see).

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 14:40 (two years ago) link


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