Cyberpunk 2077

Despite some bad press, I couldn't resist so I picked this up.

Have yet to experience a bug after the first hour, fwiw.

what's the bad press saying?

have to admit, as a Witcher 3 fan I'm psyched

ah glitches and stuff, not necessarily the game. i'm sure patches will smooth it out eventually.

Seems that it doesn't run very well on original PS4 & X Box

Literally unplayable on my Dreamcast

I know some people had noted that all the advance gameplay released/leaked was from the computer version, which conspicuously was the only version the company provided to reviewers, iirc.

little bit funny that this game runs like shit on a console generation that hadn't even been released when they began work on it

well, i'm downloading it to my PS4 anyway. Witcher 3 is my favourite game of recent times so I'm psyched

let us know which genitals you pick

i think word's gotten around pretty well by now but there was a sequence in the game that was giving people seizures so be careful out there if you're epileptic

I hear it's not much of an RPG, as in: it's even more scripted/cinematic/railroaded than the usual AAA fare. I'm still going to play it, though – just not now. When the GOTY edition with all the DLCs goes on sale in December 2022, that'll be my cue. Hopefully I'll also have a better rig by then.

yeah most of the impressions i've heard are that it really doesnt have much shared dna with witcher at all and that it's more like a bigger fancier version of the later deus ex games. plus some GTA in the open world design

will hopefully have patched in further dong sliders by then too

also lots of broken animations and characters t-posing even in major story scenes

I'm hearing that the driving is not so nice, which concerns me.

Can’t be worse than Roach

I will not be playing this:

1. I find Witcher 3 wildly overpraised for its rather rudimentary writing (I'll grant that its dialogue has personality).
2. It's a first-person game, and as someone who's sensitive to motion sickness, seeing the game's driving instantly made me dizzy.

driving on pc kinda sucks, i wonder if it would be better on console. although CDPR primarily develops for PC so i dunno

For my money, there's maybe a couple of CRPGs (Planescape: Torment, Disco Elysium) that top TW3 in the writing department (well, as far as the side quests are concerned – its main quest was middling at best), so which ones did you have in mind, Leee?

eh, footage I've seen is third person driving and first person walking/fighting. You can't do the latter in a third person view?

Thinking to try this, it's the first time I've had the hardware to run the hot new thing. And the motif is cool. I'm generally witch averse.

Multiplayer apparently isn't coming til 2022 or even later. Lots of time to get decent at it!

i will play this when i get a ps5, sometime late next year

up until recently i was planning on being an early ps5 adopter, but then my macbook pro exploded so that ps5 became a mac mini. life is so hard

Depending what part of the MacBook exploded, that could've been a nice Mini

Maybe get it on Stadia?

https://www.vg247.com/2020/11/19/cyberpunk-2077-comes-free-copy-stadia-premiere/

They reportedly hit more than a million simultaneous players on Steam. I can't remember the last time a game was hyped this hard.

shame to see another death march rewarded

it's 2077. Ashton and Dax are up to it again.

so which ones did you have in mind, Leee?

Not any RPGs I can think of, tbh (though if we broaden to narrative-driven games, I'd say anything from Naughty Dog would be an obvious improvement). I mean, I'm probably cherry-picking, but there was one Skellige sidequest that just made me give up on the game entirely: Geralt helping the daughter of the thane (or whatever his title) exorcise a haunted place that involved cooking a baby but no not really.

Fair enough! Btw that one didn't especially bother me. I get the sense that very few players actually went through with Cerys's plan, which is so obviously batshit that it's almost an Easter egg. Anyhow, I think Hearts of Stone is the best-written yarn in the whole series..

lol didn't know we had this feature

speaking of stadia, has anybody tried it?

now that i'm working from home, i.e. sitting in my office on zoom for 6-9 hrs a day, i'm using a wired "gigabit" connection that reliably gets 300-500 Mbps (depending on the time of day)

maybe it would make sense?

there was some discussion on the google gaming thread but it didn't seem like anybody ever gave it a shot

i'm thinking since i don't really care at all for multiplayer gaming maybe the lag wouldn't bother me as much as it does other ppl

If I hadn't upgraded my computer recently I definitely would have considered it to play this game. But not for an extra $100.

a pal of mine has stadia and said it works. have to have 'fuck you' internet though, which it sounds like you do

90% of the commentary on this on the web has been “it runs like poop.” Is the *game* any good ?

you can have two dongs

you can make ur char a sex offender
https://i.imgur.com/wH8o144.jpg

lol barcode, I admire your commitment to the dong.

smash that mf'ing RB
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Having never bought a big AAA PC title digitally... it makes no difference where I buy it, right? I guess the developer has some tie with gog.com, and the game's subreddit is yelling at people to buy it there. gog.com is prominently advertising "100% of your money goes to" the developer as if they are starving artists. No doubt it's pretty wild at that studio right now but it's weird to see the Bandcamp-style promo for such a huge release.

I use Steam in-home streaming sometimes, but I can just add it in to Steam and it'll be the same as if I bought it there, right? Don't care about Steam achievements and all that.

GOG is DRM-free, which means you don't need their launcher to run the game.

it's weird to see the Bandcamp-style promo for such a huge release

not only that, they made public the fact that developers get 10% of revenue ... for 2020 sales only. buy the game now or the dev gets it!

OK OK OK !

yeah cd projekt owns GOG so they obviously want you to buy their game on their own site so they dont have to pay steam the 30% cut or whatever it is

lol cdpr has been doing that "100% of proceeds go to the CDPR fund" thing for years to make you feel like you're donating to charity and not a company that famously underpays and overworks its employees

valve sucks too just buy it on whatever you want

Don't buy it on PS4 or XBox One though

oh man it's vaporwaring. #aesthetic!

wowwwww what a fustercluck

The link to the refund page came up as a 404 on my first try. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

this release is a meta cyberpunk ARG

It just gets worse:

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/cd-projekt-could-face-investor-legal-action-over-cyberpunk-misrepresentation/

lol love to see it

current gen console QA: 200 zloty
tasteful marketing: 150 zloty
transphobic community managers: 50000 zloty
dick slider engineering team: 90000000 zloty

someone who is good etc

Definitely not pulling the trigger on this one any time soon from what I've seen, but I have to admit that I really do like the look of the details in the city environment.

lol, i got a push notice from the NYT telling me how badly this failed; not a good sign

took me 100 tries to beat first boss Royce. Got to hit those glitchy streets harder!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNqWPtcXk5w

can't actually tell the difference

Take my money!

Lol!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stlfQNzKdbc

The actual Cyberpunk one he made actually made me feel bad for the programmers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPW6fkcM-14

I’ve kinda gotten a kick out of corny gamer dorks seeing their lord and savior fuck up in spectacular fashion, but yeah, sympathies to the folks who had to grind this out for this result. Spectacular mismanagement.

Hoping we get some Fyre Fest exposes on wtf happened behind the scenes here.

Same here, except I wouldn't call them corny.

Have you not seem “Good Guy CDPR” memes that have flooded Reddit and such these past few years? Oof.

My adjective of choice would be noxious.

Also acceptable. It’s an array.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/style/cyberpunk-2077-video-game-disaster.html

On Glassdoor, a site where people can rate their previous employers, current and former CD Projekt Red workers said there was chaos behind the scenes: Office rumors spreading on Discord servers, misleading deadlines set by managers, infighting among the company’s top brass, and incompetence and poor planning leading to unnecessary “crunch,” a term for overworking employees to produce games under a tight deadline. Longtime engineering staff left the company as a result of overwork.

“The owners treat the company as a machine to earn money, and do not see employees as people but more like data in the table,” one former employee wrote on the site.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tJthUWc13Y

If you're not on a legacy console, this is running pretty well. Malcontents will push the glitch narrative, but that's not what I'm seeing on PC. I'm seeing a remarkably fluid game engine, great art, modeling and music, and serviceable but sometimes great writing. The voice actor for female V will be in demand, the male, not so much.

The more serious complaints should be with the issues that will be much harder to iron out: Railbound narratives. Lousy enemy AI. Scaling via bullet sponges. Domino effects in the underlying RPG maths such that some character builds just steamroll through without effort (or replayability). Pervasive environmental misogyny.

My guess, as it gets sorted, and more play on current consoles, this will viewed as technically (over)ambitious, but not captivating.

Iirc in the Dunkey video says he was playing on a generally solid PC rig, too, and still ran into tons of frame rate issues, really dramatic dips. As he says, if you can get Mario Odyssey running at 60fps on a Switch, and stuff like God of War and Red Dead running stable on a base console, then there is no excuse.

There isn't any excuse for the state of it on base model last gen consoles. They done em dirty.

Just recently found out that PlayStation straight up removed it from their online store a few days ago? Damn.

imagine if this came out in april as originally planned

I just started playing GTA V on my Base PS4, a game that came out in 2014, and yeah, there is no excuse at all

you'd need to play GTA V on PS3 for the proper comparison

and also without the 5 years of patches its gotten

GTA V on 360 was pretty smooth iirc

I played GTA 5 on PS3 like first week of release. It was pretty flawless? It was released on PS3 and 360 exclusively, so it was pretty laser focused to run well on those systems. Online was jacked up, of course.

Rockstar actually a company that does this remarkably well. Read Dead 2 is still jaw dropping.

Gta v was good on xbox 360. Was the last new console game I bought 😭

yeah it was astounding what they managed to push the ps3/xbox360 into doing for gta5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3isCdVVPbk

Good commentary-free playthriugh

thanks, i think i am into that idea

Got the disc version of this as a xmas present. So far, at least with the latest patch, the game has been running decently on my base PS4. There’s some occasional frame rate dropping and stuttering (especially with vehicles) but it’s not at all unplayable.

(Of course that’s not to excuse any issues others are experiencing or the developer’s obvious greed and mismanagement of their launch.)

Gameplay-wise its nothing revolutionary but it’s a solid sandbox action RPG. The story’s pretty cliche but I’m enjoying it. Very GTA.

oh yeah i wasnt saying that GTAV was bad on release just that the PS4 version isn't the right comparison

rockstar probably also under less pressure to ship their games a year before they're finished

yeah rockstar won't announce a game until it's on a solid finish path.

i imagine one of the big factors in not delaying it again was console generation timing - 6 months from now there still isn't going to be a huge PS5/XBSX install base but the 150 million+ PS4s/XB1s in the wild are going to start collecting dust, and people would put off buying it until they can get a next gen console. despite the terrible optimization this game was always supposed to take advantage of that massive late-generation install base. most studios probably would've done the same thing if they were scared of missing that window.

seems to have worked out well enough for their bottom line anyway, in spite of everything

yeah 8 million preorders is a mindboggling number

Half a billion dollars!

A lot of people want to escape

May I just say that I've been on this website for nearly 18 years, and I've never posted a Mr. Bean video before now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Q4UacBe1A

As someone who has had Twitch on in the background for a while: C77 is less buggy than any Bethesda release upon launch, and in some respects more ambitious. Even on base PS4s. There are more serious issues with gameplay balance, which may never get fixed, but objects glitching out occurs about once every few hours, crashes every several dozen.

Yes, in its best visual form it's really demanding of graphics cards. Under 5% of Steam users have a PC with a graphics card that can do it justice (even at 1080p). I'll likely get vaccinated before I find a Ampere card at MSRP or below (Chinese Etherium miners bought most), or AMD updates its drivers to support ray tracing for lighting effects. But for those who were lucky/rich enough to have bleeding edge PCs, its really graphically stunning.

waiting for the uncut Switch version

bethesda's the real winner here since everyone's now forgotten they had the worst major game launch of the generation

For those of you lamenting there's no means of previewing clothing, a fan-made C77 fashion catalogue and inspiration magazine, as featured in Forbes. Limited to female Vs at the moment.

this is better than saints row 2 but not as good as sleeping dogs, and overall feels like those games--mid/late xbox 360 era GTA clones.