PS.. is it 5? I think we're on 5 now. PS5

Iirc the points could be spent on attacks and other moves, which I didn't find I needed so much.

OK, speaking of Spider-man *and* PS5, I just saw that the PS4 game is getting a remaster (already) for the PS5, but only available if you get the deluxe version of the Miles game (for either PS4 or PS5). A press release noted:

"The remaster for the PS5 is no simple up-res, as many of the game's art assets have been completely updated to take advantage of the PS5 console's horsepower. You'll see better-looking characters with improved skin, eyes, hair, and facial animation (including our new, next-generation Peter Parker)."

"You'll also see ray-traced reflections and ambient shadows, improved lighting, more pedestrians and vehicles stretching further into the distance, and the same optional performance mode offered on Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales, allowing you to finally play the game at a targeted 60FPS frame rate. We'll be supporting near-instant loading, 3D audio, and the DualSense controller's haptic feedback. Lastly we're adding three amazing new Spider-Man suits, new photo mode features, and even new trophies for those of you looking to Platinum the game all over again."

Which all sounds fine, but if anything Spider-man looked pretty good already, so it remains to be seen what *more* good might look like, let alone if "improved skin, eyes, hair, and facial animation" doesn't just fall even further into the uncanny valley.

Did the graphics on the PS4 change drastically from its launch to, well, now? Last of Us Remastered was pretty early in its lifespan but looked pretty good to me, stuff like Uncharted 4 (which people like the look of) came soon after. Spider-man and God of War and RDR2 and Ghost of Tsushima and LOU2 are more recent, and all look pretty good if not radically better (to my eyes) than what came before on the system. I wonder how far along PS5 will get before it offers something that sets a new graphical standard?

we'll see if that's BS or not with the new models / 3D audio / etc in the PS5 SM:GOTY remaster

Last of Us Remastered vs. Last of Us II is a pretty big difference in visual quality in models, environments and animations, good to show how far they went from peak PS3 to peak PS4 graphics. i haven't even seen the game in 4K but i imagine it'll look even nicer on PS5

the demons souls remake is the only ps5 launch title that's ps5-only and not cross-gen i think? though that's still a remake of a PS3 game with the game world designed accordingly with smaller areas etc

god of war 2 (5?) will probably be the first real graphics showoff game

miles morales spider-man is a ps5 launch title, right? that’s an exclusive

tbh the moment Horizon whatever is released I’ll be on this like flies on shit

There is a part of me that wants to buy one of these repellent eyesores and develop a Josh in Chicagoesque schtick where I come on here regularly to complain at length about how every game is just a camera behind a guy running around breaking stuff

xp yes but it's a ps4 game with an enhanced ps5 version

i think horizon 2 is also gonna be ps4

yes, they confirmed. but since it's not launch it might be worth waiting to get a PS5 for

Think H2 will probably be a Christmas market 2021 release and there may be some Black Friday PS5 deals around next year - but probably only saving you thirty bucks or something.

How long was the PS4 out before it had its first price drop?

wasn't that only when the pro came out? 2016, so 3 years

had a look thru my emails and I bought my PS4 a year after launch during what must have been a Black Friday deal for £289 down from £349.
wonder how long it will take for a PS5 to dip under what is obviously my unconscious price ceiling of £300.

Does anyone know how (or if) backward compatibility will work if you buy the PS5 digital edition but have physical copies of PS4 games?

Pretty sure they confirmed it just won't work. If you want to play physical PS4 games you need the non-digital PS5.

I believe that's correct, all the more reason to get the disc version. PSN purchases probably OK i guess.

Same applies to the free PS5 upgrades, there are a bunch of games where owning a PS4 copy will entitle you to a PS5 upgrade, but physical copies will only upgrade on the non-digital PS5.

PS5 without disc would force you to re-purchase your PS4 discs

what i'd like to know is if disc PS5 will also force you to download ps4 games again or if it installs them from the blu-ray, they haven't confirmed that afaik

*PS4 discs games

It would make sense for the PS5 to do the disc check on your PS4 disc, then download the PS5 version from PSN, but this hasn't been directly confirmed

well that kind of defeats the whole purpose, hoping it will just let me install from disc like the ps4 does.

the only reasons it should download anything is specific games needing bc patches for stability and of course the regular ps4 patches that almost every game has, fetching the whole thing when i have it locally in a blu-ray is just ridiculous

i think people are talking about games with ps5 enhanced versions. you obviously can't install an improved ps5 version of a game from the ps4 disc since it's not on there.

oh, that's what you mean
yeah, PS5 runs PS4 games the same way they run now, it isn't even emulation so much as PS5 is just an upgraded PS4, PC-style.

they do have to be tested and whitelisted by sony first i think but they've said 99% of ps4 games will work on day 1

From what I understand upgrading to enhanced versions may be Pyrric victories, since yeah, you're going to have to buy the new PS5 version one way or another anyway to *get* that enhanced version. And in the case of Spiderman, as reported even upgrading to the PS5 version won't port over your saves or anything. So if you have the PS4 version of a game, you should likely be able to play the PS4 version on the PS5. But if you want the PS5 version of anything you're going to have to pay ... something.

I just want Tokyo Jungle

amen

you're going to have to buy the new PS5 version one way or another anyway to *get* that enhanced version

That's not true in most cases. Spiderman is a particularly confusing exception though, because they're actually going to have two different PS5 versions - one "standard", and one "enhanced", the standard PS5 version will be a free upgrade from the PS4 version (which you don't have to buy, and can activate with the original disc or original download etc) but to get the enhanced one you'll need to either buy the Ultimate Edition of Miles Morales on PS4, or buy the same ultimate edition on PS5. Or at least that's the general shape of it, I spent ages yesterday juggling other news sources trying to get an accurate explanation for this and they all seemed to be confused too one way or another so I might still have some bits wrong.

But yeah if you want to upgrade (eg) your PS4 Witcher 3 to the PS5 version, that's properly free. Same is true for most of the games on that list I shared upthread.

Tokyo jungle btw is currently playable on PS4 via PS Now. Guessing the PS Now library is mostly going to just carry straight over to PS5 though I don't think they've said much about that yet.

Playstation Plus Collection: https://www.cbr.com/playstation-plus-collection-ps-now-shortcomings/

sorry that's not the best link. here's what buying a ps5 and subbing to their yearly service gets you:

God of War
The Last of Us: Remastered
Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End
Battlefield 1
Monster Hunter World
Fallout 4
Final Fantasy XV
The Last Guardian
Ratchet and Clank
Infamous: Second Son
Days Gone
Bloodborne
Detroit: Become Human
Batman Arkham Knight
Mortal Kombat X
Persona 5
Until Dawn
Resident Evil: Biohazard

> they do have to be tested and whitelisted by sony first i think but they've said 99% of ps4 games will work on day 1

i think the testing and whitelisting is only for the PS5 boost mode improvements in back-compat (to avoid further confusion, NOT talking about the enhanced PS5 versions that are effectively PS5 games, I mean actual PS4 games running in boost mode on the 5), for the legacy modes all games with few exceptions should run fine, like base PS4 games do in the ps4 pro

whoa, that's pretty cool! as long as they don't bump up the price of Playstation Plus to $125/yr or some bullshit

“Marvel’s Spider-Man: Remastered is an enhanced version of Marvel’s Spider-Man, and is included as part of Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales Ultimate Edition for the PlayStation 5. In addition, players who purchase Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales on PlayStation 4 can upgrade at no additional cost to the PS5 version of Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales and can take advantage of a paid-upgrade to download Marvel’s Spider-Man: Remastered.”

Regarding the above.. how long until PS Now/PS+/PS+ Collection get merged and they do end up bumping the price? Fortunately Game Pass is still so cheap generally (gotta be at a loss) that I think they'll refrain from charging more than MS does

yeah gamepass has to be a 'take a loss to get a userbase then figure it out later' thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaAY-jAjm0w

what?? it’s as big as a man’s torso!

it is the chunkiest of systems

It's like a cross between a 3-ring binder and a boogie board.

chonky bytes

the furniture my tv sits on literally isn’t big enough to hold that

it's supposed to replace that furniture

yeah, i have no idea where i'm putting that

I can't wait for the second wave of these to become available so I can get one and my partner can go "uh what is this giant thing you put in the living room" and I can answer "I'M SPIDERMAN, WHEEEEEEEEEEEE"

Uh, the PS5 digital is shipping with a 1tb drive and 664gb of free space, which likely isn't much more than enough to hold the games that the PS+ Collection comes with! You're gonna need a 5tb external attached to this dang thing, which only increases the bulk.

Anyone who installs both Demon’s Souls and Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales Ultimate Edition will find their hard drive space taking up 171GB, which is roughly 20 percent of the entire storage.

i love that they did this video

do you really need all 20 games in the ps+ collection installed at once? they're mostly single player games that have an end

if i can't play anything at any given moment how do i even know i'm alive

rip and tear(down)

I wonder if how hard taking out the cap for the screw hole (@1:34 in the video) will be.