PS.. is it 5? I think we're on 5 now. PS5

can't believe the new ps5 controller has a 'honk' button! incredible! pic.twitter.com/3LEUX6jxwl

— Crows Crows Crows (@crowsx3) April 8, 2020

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/ps5/

this is the new controller
http://i.imgur.com/AEfMwvE.png
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:08 PM

The DualSense iterates on its predecessors by introducing a new haptic feedback system, adaptive triggers for the L2 and R2 buttons, a built-in microphone array, and a new ‘Create’ button in place of the ‘Share’ button from the DualShock 4. Details on what exactly this ‘Create’ feature actually entails is still to come.
“In all, we went through several concepts and hundreds of mockups over the last few years before we settled on this final design,” Nishino wrote. “DualSense has been tested by a wide range of gamers with a variety of hand sizes, in order for us to achieve the comfort level we wanted, with great ergonomics. Our goal with DualSense is to give gamers the feeling of being transported into the game world as soon as they open the box. We want gamers to feel like the controller is an extension of themselves when they’re playing – so much so that they forget that it’s even in their hands!”
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:09 PM

a little more xbox-ish, but not too much
looks pretty
― mh, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:10 PM

dont like how that looks nearly as much as the ds4
― ciderpress, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:11 PM

i presume you can turn off the microphone. what a nightmare to have voice chat on EVERY GAME
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:12 PM

every time any of the console makers change their controller i have to worry that they've made something that's not comfortable for my giant hands. the current gen ones are all ideal
― ciderpress, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:14 PM

"This will be the first controller that is already it's own Overwatch variant"
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:23 PM

the new controller looks like it’s wearing a little black spaghetti-strap dress
― force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:25 PM

The current controllers are great, except they keep breaking down for me. My original one has phantom R2 inputs and generally unresponsive, and on the newer one the down button only works about 1/10th of the time. This makes for a fun challenge in Dark Souls 3, where I never know if I'll be able to change consumable items or not.
Admittedly, this is probably related to the fact that I now mostly play while I'm on the stationary bike, with sweaty hands. :/
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:29 PM

xp lol
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:30 PM

Maybe that's not a speaker, maybe that's a fan that blows in your face to make you feel like you are outside.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:34 PM

The DS4 already has a speaker!
― Triceratops Vowell (Leee), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:36 PM

oh yeah one of my 2 DS4s has a bad stick. but at least it doesn't cramp my hands up
― ciderpress, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:58 PM

Karl Malone's milk post: thanks mate, you really cheered me up!
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 6:57 PM

:D hey man, i'm just giving you a glimpse of the future. glad to see the synergy with the thinking behind the new PS5 controller!
"Our goal with DualSense is to give gamers the feeling of being transported into the game world as soon as they open the box. We want gamers to feel like the controller is an extension of themselves when they’re playing – so much so that they forget that it’s even in their hands!"
*hundreds of journalists hands go up*
"WILL WE BE ABLE TO PUSH MILK WITH OUR "HANDS" USING THE PS5 CONTROLLER???"
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 7:10 PM

i cannot state strongly enough how much the new controller looks like it’s wearing a little black dress and it’s freaking me out

phew i’m glad i now say that twice itt

next generation baby

i agree that the new controller is wearing a dress and the analog sticks are its honkers

the internet agrees
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-04-09-of-course-people-are-drawing-the-ps5-controller-as-an-anime-girl

the controller is also wearing pauldrons

Sources tell Bloomberg that this year, Sony will be producing a lower number of PlayStation 5 consoles. The cause, reportedly, isn’t due to the novel coronavirus covid-19 pandemic, but rather, the hardware’s high price at launch.

The console’s technical specs are expected to be reflected in the pricing, Bloomberg added, and there has been speculation that the PS5 will be priced between $499 and $549. Certain components are scarce and expensive, which could cut into the company’s profits on each machine.

Kotaku reached out to Sony but did not receive a reply prior to publication.

Production might be impacted by the pandemic. Sony employees are working from home, and Sony might ditch in-person press events for the console. Earlier this year, the company held a virtual briefing to announce the console’s specs.

The PS5’s assembly is expected to begin in June. While Sony has revealed the console’s controller, only a small handful of insiders have apparently seen what the actual console looks like, for fear of leaks.

Sony was quoted as telling its partners that it will make 5 to 6 million PS5s during the financial year ending on March 31, 2021. In comparison, Sony sold 7.5 million PS3s during that console’s first two quarters. The goal is still for a simultaneous worldwide launch, but the pandemic is impacting game production across the industry, which could impact the debut titles.

At launch, the PlayStation 3 was hard to get, so expect the PlayStation 5 to be even more so.

is anyone here thinking of trying to be an early adopter?

I am going to buy this console. i missed out on the ps4/xbox one generation

when is there a game worth playing for it is the question

i haven't been an early adopter since i somehow managed to convince my dad to buy me a psx right when it came out (crazy knowing that it was like $600+ with memory card + a game, even back then!)

i know it's a bad idea, but honestly if there's some sort of must have launch title (super mario 64 or BOTW-esque) i can see myself doing it

xp

ulysses otm

has playstation ever had a must-have launch title? like one that's a top-ten recommendation for the console, even at the end of the lifecycle?

i don't see a reason to early adopt if you have a 4

the launch titles will be the last of us 2 with better loading times and ghost of tsushima with better loading times

and knack 3

I was kinda tempted to early adopt on both this gen... but who knows. There probably won't be a great system exclusive for at least a year or two anyway

yeah i don't really see anything in the pipe or rumored pipe i care about that isn't going to get a ps4 version, would have to be some left field surprise

plus - with these supply constraints I'm betting they'll rush out the first hardware revision even sooner than usual

and if these launch at $500... hmm.. i dunno

what's the point? wait a couple years and see if sony actually continues to deliver decent exclusives. current gen console quality has never been an indicator of next gen console quality. i've come to expect the inverse lately.

i mean, wow?
https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/a-first-look-at-unreal-engine-5

Knack 3 will be phenomenal

wow!

i got bored after 10 minutes but it does look nice

UE4 demo for comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD9CPqSKjTU

I don't have a PS4 but I guess it took a bit for PS4 games to get as good as the demo?

never believe the demo is a good rule of thumb, but that UE4 looks worse than god of war honestly.

never believe the demo is a good rule of thumb, but that UE4 looks worse than god of war honestly.

I can't tell if this is a put-down or not (honestly!). Because I just (barely) started God of War a couple of weeks ago, and not only thought it looked great, but thought that PS5 Unreal 5 demo was maybe technically better quality, down to the little programmer details, but not to my maybe weak eyes radically better, good as it looked.

i got bored after 10 minutes but it does look nice

Um, isn't the video 9 minutes long? No wonder you got bored.

the demo should be reasonably representative for what constrained area/camera games like god of war or whatever will look like, open world games have more technical hurdles obviously

Looks fantastic

https://kotaku.com/playstation-5-game-showcase-happening-next-thursday-1843754372

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/06/08/updated-time-this-thursday-see-the-future-of-gaming-on-ps5/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

will be watching.

give us a fuckin price sony

Not buying until gta6 comes out

well duh

(been my rule for the past two ps machines)

I have a PS4 Slim and I've been very happy with it, so much so that I'm not sure what a PS5 would give me that I don't already have or want in a machine. Besides exclusives, I guess, but that stuff is totally under wraps, given that hyped heavy hitters Last of Us 2, Cyberpunk 2077 and Ghost of Tsushima are coming out for PS4.

there is no point in buying a new console until there are games worth playing on it, idk why people even humor the thought of buying near launch

clout

fanboys + people who didnt have the previous box

I have Gamespot gift cards and GS is near death and my PS4 optical drive is dead. First time I’ll be buying a new system ASAP.

GTA though? Man, that’s been downhill from 4 on.

It would be be Spider-Man 2 for me. But I don't know, something about the general anxiety of this year might lead to just get this and maybe the MS one too

So just caught the Demon's Souls remake, what else have I missed/

HZD sequel so you better play the first one sooner than later!

Eh, I've got a couple of years before I even consider PS5.

FUGLY

better have good cooling because that's going in a drawer

that is seriously rank

looks like a router

xp these consoles are as much better than ps4 as ps4 was than ps3, the CPU in particular is a tremendous boost since the PS4 CPU already kinda sucked at launch whereas these ones are good at launch. once some actual games come out this will become evident but you can already see it somewhat by comparing the spiderman games

i think there's going to be heavy diminishing returns after this generation because physical TV size sets a limit for how good fidelity needs to be but we're not quite there yet

With VR + 120hz + if 3D is due for a comeback, plenty of room for power use imo

VR sure i guess, framerates above 60 aren't a big deal for casual gaming and competitive gamers are all on PC anyway, 3D please no

We haven't yet seen AAA games in 4k120. I feel like that'll be the next big "wow" factor (and also probably limited to games like GTA VII or something). But even seeing games over 60hz - which nobody is even streaming at in the present - can be impressive

60->120hz is really not a wow factor like 30->60hz is imo. the only time i ever feel the difference is mouselook games, where you're moving the camera quickly and constantly, and mouselook doesn't exist on consoles

i guess if console gamers are willing to finally embrace gyro aim like nintendo folks do then it can matter more but there's still ridiculous pushback to that afaik

GTA VII

lol at skipping VI when V is 7 years deep and on its third generation of console. GTA VII will be a delayed launch title for PS7 in 2033.

true, i was being optimistic lol

GTA VII: 2020

i've seen a few of these PS4 vs PS5 comparison videos now (Miles Morales was the last one) and i'm struggling to see any significant difference between the two. maybe a tiny bit of motion improvement, a small amount of background detail here and there, but it looks like the days of huge leaps from say the NES to the SNES or even PSOne to PS2 are over now.
We've hit a ceiling in terms of graphical output, one which as a kid I used to only dream about: "What if the games looked like reality, how amazing would that be?".
I'm also underwhelmed by the games that are leading the PS5 roll-out: They all seem to be sequels or remakes or just slightly dandied-up versions of existing games, so very little for me to get exicted about. Obvs we're going to see more getting rolled out in the coming year, but for now the PS5 feels less like a brand new console and more like an upgraded PS4.

theres really no PS5 games yet, just PS4 games running on higher settings

the big upgrade this gen is the CPU so other than higher framerates (which, 30 to 60fps is still a notable quality of life boost for action games) you won't see a big difference until they stop making games that can run on the PS4 and then stuff like better AI, better physics simulation, denser open world simulation, etc are all on the table. whether devs can do cool stuff with that i dunno yet

the other big upgrade is the controller haptics but obviously you can't see that in videos

Yeah, was gonna say, you rarely see what a system can do right out of the gate for numerous reasons.

I'm excited about the Demon's Souls remake, but that's about it right now. OK with waiting until it has an actual library.

also obviously if you're watching comparisons on a 1080p display you're not seeing much of the fidelity difference between 1080p and 4k

I was tempted to buy a 4k monitor for the PS4, adding even more to the wasted money pile..

PS5, obv

Yeah, honestly seeing even PS4 Pro running 4K in person was pretty stunning.

Which means I will likely be upgrading my TV soon too. *sigh*

it'll still look better either way since downsampling from 4k eliminates aliasing (this is also why games always look better in youtube windows than full screen, a lot of the seams get supersampled away)

i'm finally getting kicked and dragged into the "multiple thousands of Ks" league, due to my macbook pro display busting a few days ago. thinking of getting a mac mini and then pairing it with a 4K display which i can also use for the PS5 i will inevitably buy soon

LMK if you can find a 4k 120hz monitor that's under $1000

will do, but i doubt it

THE ABSOLUTE GREATEST THING TO HAPPEN FOR FGC EVENTS THANKS TO THIS FEATURE ON #PS5.

You can now turn off the system's Bluetooth in the PS5 Settings for events! pic.twitter.com/KA05yebCST

— Alex (@Jebailey) November 12, 2020

120hz is for fps gamers, 60 is fine for mortals

4k sucks for computing though, its really a tv spec. theres a reason why everyone gets 1440p for their pc monitor

computer monitors generally don't have HDR either, unless theyve started adding that recently

I bought a huge beautiful 5K monitor that only has USB-C inputs and can't be used with any console, AMA

how do you use it?

i already went through this whole thing a couple years ago when i got my ps4 pro and the cheapest solution by far was to buy a tv rather than upgrading my pc monitor. if you dont have room in your living space for one then uhh you can pay 4x as much for an equivalent monitor or just stick to good old 1080p it looks just fine with the 4k supersampling

It works great connected to my stupid Mac laptop that can't run any cool games

xp

sounds like it might work for me then! i'm on the wrong thread for asking about displays (because i have a mac mini in mind)

4k sucks for computing though, its really a tv spec. theres a reason why everyone gets 1440p for their pc monitor

― ciderpress, Thursday, November 12, 2020 4:19 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

4k or higher are excellent for non-gaming. the pixel doubling or proportional scaling, like what Apple has been doing on their high res displays for a long time, makes text much smoother and imo much easier on the eyes

oh i guess if theres software to handle it properly now. wasn't the case yet a few years ago at least on pc

might just be an apple thing still?

Windows 10 works well, although not all older apps scale properly and look a little blurry. I use a 4k monitor for work with everything not doubled but scaled to 125/150% and it’s nice for all the things I use

Windows 10 works well, although not all older apps scale properly and look a little blurry.

I stopped paying attention to PC gaming/graphics specs a while back and mainly game on PS4, but I noticed my win10 laptop the other day had a toggle on it asking me if I wanted to try to make apps look less blurry. Like why the fuck would I _want_ them blurry? Just unblur the thing by default, Bill, you tit.

I have a 4K UHD 2160p monitor for my macbook air & it's excellent

PonyStation 5

piss5

after seeing the "difference" between the 60fps performance mode and 30fps fidelity mode in demons souls i feel confident in declaring that any game this upcoming gen that doesn't let you run it at 60fps is a scam

we're getting into audiophile snake oil territory of what extra detail you get running the game at 30

Hmm, it depends. Ray tracing seems expensive computationally. I could see things like draw distance, texture detail and other such things being a lot better at 30fps.

The audiophile snake oil is surely in the "you really notice the 120 fps" direction?

xp sure, i just don't think you can justify not including the performance mode as an option anymore now that the games aren't cpu-bound

1440p checkerboard looks pretty much identical to native 4k at tv viewing distance whereas 30 vs 60fps is a massively felt difference in action games

https://kotaku.com/two-weeks-with-my-ps5-1845670823

more info on the "cards" and jumping right into quests. looks like new Spider-Man supports it!

I adore weird-looking consoles, chief among them, the purple GameCube, so I like that the PS5 looks like a giant, high-tech eclair.

I should measure but my dated tv console has a shelf wide enough for a ps4 plus a stack of disc boxes on the side. I think I relocate the boxes and I’m good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy7VILMeN28

*checks wario64 again*

If eating Bugsnax turns you into a Bugsnax, is the only way to turn back into a Grumpus eating other Grumpuses?

15000 people ahead of me in the online queue in Curry's this morning was enough to convince me not be be an early adopter.