PS.. is it 5? I think we're on 5 now. PS5

can't believe the new ps5 controller has a 'honk' button! incredible! pic.twitter.com/3LEUX6jxwl

— Crows Crows Crows (@crowsx3) April 8, 2020

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/ps5/

this is the new controller
http://i.imgur.com/AEfMwvE.png
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:08 PM

The DualSense iterates on its predecessors by introducing a new haptic feedback system, adaptive triggers for the L2 and R2 buttons, a built-in microphone array, and a new ‘Create’ button in place of the ‘Share’ button from the DualShock 4. Details on what exactly this ‘Create’ feature actually entails is still to come.
“In all, we went through several concepts and hundreds of mockups over the last few years before we settled on this final design,” Nishino wrote. “DualSense has been tested by a wide range of gamers with a variety of hand sizes, in order for us to achieve the comfort level we wanted, with great ergonomics. Our goal with DualSense is to give gamers the feeling of being transported into the game world as soon as they open the box. We want gamers to feel like the controller is an extension of themselves when they’re playing – so much so that they forget that it’s even in their hands!”
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:09 PM

a little more xbox-ish, but not too much
looks pretty
― mh, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:10 PM

dont like how that looks nearly as much as the ds4
― ciderpress, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:11 PM

i presume you can turn off the microphone. what a nightmare to have voice chat on EVERY GAME
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:12 PM

every time any of the console makers change their controller i have to worry that they've made something that's not comfortable for my giant hands. the current gen ones are all ideal
― ciderpress, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:14 PM

"This will be the first controller that is already it's own Overwatch variant"
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:23 PM

the new controller looks like it’s wearing a little black spaghetti-strap dress
― force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:25 PM

The current controllers are great, except they keep breaking down for me. My original one has phantom R2 inputs and generally unresponsive, and on the newer one the down button only works about 1/10th of the time. This makes for a fun challenge in Dark Souls 3, where I never know if I'll be able to change consumable items or not.
Admittedly, this is probably related to the fact that I now mostly play while I'm on the stationary bike, with sweaty hands. :/
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:29 PM

xp lol
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:30 PM

Maybe that's not a speaker, maybe that's a fan that blows in your face to make you feel like you are outside.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:34 PM

The DS4 already has a speaker!
― Triceratops Vowell (Leee), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:36 PM

oh yeah one of my 2 DS4s has a bad stick. but at least it doesn't cramp my hands up
― ciderpress, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:58 PM

Karl Malone's milk post: thanks mate, you really cheered me up!
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 6:57 PM

:D hey man, i'm just giving you a glimpse of the future. glad to see the synergy with the thinking behind the new PS5 controller!
"Our goal with DualSense is to give gamers the feeling of being transported into the game world as soon as they open the box. We want gamers to feel like the controller is an extension of themselves when they’re playing – so much so that they forget that it’s even in their hands!"
*hundreds of journalists hands go up*
"WILL WE BE ABLE TO PUSH MILK WITH OUR "HANDS" USING THE PS5 CONTROLLER???"
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 7:10 PM

i cannot state strongly enough how much the new controller looks like it’s wearing a little black dress and it’s freaking me out

phew i’m glad i now say that twice itt

next generation baby

i agree that the new controller is wearing a dress and the analog sticks are its honkers

the internet agrees
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-04-09-of-course-people-are-drawing-the-ps5-controller-as-an-anime-girl

the controller is also wearing pauldrons

Sources tell Bloomberg that this year, Sony will be producing a lower number of PlayStation 5 consoles. The cause, reportedly, isn’t due to the novel coronavirus covid-19 pandemic, but rather, the hardware’s high price at launch.

The console’s technical specs are expected to be reflected in the pricing, Bloomberg added, and there has been speculation that the PS5 will be priced between $499 and $549. Certain components are scarce and expensive, which could cut into the company’s profits on each machine.

Kotaku reached out to Sony but did not receive a reply prior to publication.

Production might be impacted by the pandemic. Sony employees are working from home, and Sony might ditch in-person press events for the console. Earlier this year, the company held a virtual briefing to announce the console’s specs.

The PS5’s assembly is expected to begin in June. While Sony has revealed the console’s controller, only a small handful of insiders have apparently seen what the actual console looks like, for fear of leaks.

Sony was quoted as telling its partners that it will make 5 to 6 million PS5s during the financial year ending on March 31, 2021. In comparison, Sony sold 7.5 million PS3s during that console’s first two quarters. The goal is still for a simultaneous worldwide launch, but the pandemic is impacting game production across the industry, which could impact the debut titles.

At launch, the PlayStation 3 was hard to get, so expect the PlayStation 5 to be even more so.

is anyone here thinking of trying to be an early adopter?

I am going to buy this console. i missed out on the ps4/xbox one generation

when is there a game worth playing for it is the question

i haven't been an early adopter since i somehow managed to convince my dad to buy me a psx right when it came out (crazy knowing that it was like $600+ with memory card + a game, even back then!)

i know it's a bad idea, but honestly if there's some sort of must have launch title (super mario 64 or BOTW-esque) i can see myself doing it

xp

ulysses otm

has playstation ever had a must-have launch title? like one that's a top-ten recommendation for the console, even at the end of the lifecycle?

i don't see a reason to early adopt if you have a 4

the launch titles will be the last of us 2 with better loading times and ghost of tsushima with better loading times

and knack 3

I was kinda tempted to early adopt on both this gen... but who knows. There probably won't be a great system exclusive for at least a year or two anyway

yeah i don't really see anything in the pipe or rumored pipe i care about that isn't going to get a ps4 version, would have to be some left field surprise

plus - with these supply constraints I'm betting they'll rush out the first hardware revision even sooner than usual

and if these launch at $500... hmm.. i dunno

what's the point? wait a couple years and see if sony actually continues to deliver decent exclusives. current gen console quality has never been an indicator of next gen console quality. i've come to expect the inverse lately.

i mean, wow?
https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/a-first-look-at-unreal-engine-5

Knack 3 will be phenomenal

wow!

i got bored after 10 minutes but it does look nice

UE4 demo for comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD9CPqSKjTU

I don't have a PS4 but I guess it took a bit for PS4 games to get as good as the demo?

never believe the demo is a good rule of thumb, but that UE4 looks worse than god of war honestly.

never believe the demo is a good rule of thumb, but that UE4 looks worse than god of war honestly.

I can't tell if this is a put-down or not (honestly!). Because I just (barely) started God of War a couple of weeks ago, and not only thought it looked great, but thought that PS5 Unreal 5 demo was maybe technically better quality, down to the little programmer details, but not to my maybe weak eyes radically better, good as it looked.

i got bored after 10 minutes but it does look nice

Um, isn't the video 9 minutes long? No wonder you got bored.

the demo should be reasonably representative for what constrained area/camera games like god of war or whatever will look like, open world games have more technical hurdles obviously

Looks fantastic

https://kotaku.com/playstation-5-game-showcase-happening-next-thursday-1843754372

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/06/08/updated-time-this-thursday-see-the-future-of-gaming-on-ps5/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

will be watching.

give us a fuckin price sony

Not buying until gta6 comes out

well duh

(been my rule for the past two ps machines)

I have a PS4 Slim and I've been very happy with it, so much so that I'm not sure what a PS5 would give me that I don't already have or want in a machine. Besides exclusives, I guess, but that stuff is totally under wraps, given that hyped heavy hitters Last of Us 2, Cyberpunk 2077 and Ghost of Tsushima are coming out for PS4.

there is no point in buying a new console until there are games worth playing on it, idk why people even humor the thought of buying near launch

clout

fanboys + people who didnt have the previous box

I have Gamespot gift cards and GS is near death and my PS4 optical drive is dead. First time I’ll be buying a new system ASAP.

GTA though? Man, that’s been downhill from 4 on.

It would be be Spider-Man 2 for me. But I don't know, something about the general anxiety of this year might lead to just get this and maybe the MS one too

So just caught the Demon's Souls remake, what else have I missed/

HZD sequel so you better play the first one sooner than later!

Eh, I've got a couple of years before I even consider PS5.

FUGLY

better have good cooling because that's going in a drawer

that is seriously rank

looks like a router

ouya baby

yeh the Deck CPU is light years ahead of the PS4 CPU, should be a emulation beast

i'm gonna go ahead and say that elden ring will be The Perfect Game, ready to die (repeatedly) on this hill

(praise the sun)

otm

same

if it is not the perfect game, we will be angry until someone does it again and again

I guess the main difference will be online play, because PS3 Demon's Souls servers no longer exist

I might be alone in this but I prefer to play online solely for the shared messages/ghosts. One of my favorite game mechanics ever

You guys, Spider-Man: Miles Morales is so fucking good

Also, Disco Elysium is really fucking good too

but did they remember to put spider-man in it this time

I am enjoying Demon's Souls a lot

I am finding it reallllly easy after Dark Souls 3 though. I completed two legs back-to-back without dying, bosses included. I MUCH prefer comestible healing over Estus healing

This is the fourth From game I've played in a row and my boyfriend wants me to play something else. I bought Control and immediately disliked everything about it and quit after an hour. Neither he nor I like Spider Man enough to play it in game form. I don't know what to do. Toying with getting Edith Finch or something

tbh swinging through NYC is the entire reason to get the Spider-Man games, it’s completely glorious

Things I like about Demon's Souls: smaller pool of weapons, combat feels like "moving pieces around a board" more than "realistic" and it feels closer to a turn-based RPG as a result, the tone/mood/aesthetic, seeing how Dark Souls 3 was much more of a sequel to this rather than Dark Souls itself

Things I dislike about Demon's Souls: the corridors, the tunnels, the cell blocks, the voice acting

xp I also don't like NYC enough to desire to play it in game form

it’s absolutely glorious when you’re swinging through the tops of buildings!

Guys BUGSNAX

Maybe not really

New free DLC for Returnal that adds co-op (!!!) as well as a new area March 22.

You know what they should do? Make the PS5 easier to find and buy.

isnt there still a global chip shortage

judging by the e-mail i just received that said a piece of electronic equipment i ordered in November 2021 won't be available until November 2022 at the earliest, it appears that is still an issue, yes.

By the time the chip shortage is resolved they'll probably introduce a new model, and then *that* one will be hard to find for years.

don't think there will be a new model this gen at least not with different internals, a smaller one may be possible several years down the line. the ps4 pro was motivated by 4k TVs proliferating quickly. 8k is not a real consideration until there's widespread demand for 100 inch TVs which seems unlikely

Maybe they can go the other direction and make a PS5 Lite or something.

not to be a dick but this is a very good system

The PS5 system, or the catch as catch can system of getting a PS5? I'm sure the PS5 itself is a good system, but I neither want to hunt for one nor pay what they're asking right now.

My PS5 hunt was:

- see initial frenzy
- go "fuck that noise, I'll wait"
- wait
- idly check earlier this year to see if any restocks were coming up by googling randomly
- stumble across a site that alerted me to a Walmart restock the next day
- log into the Walmart website the next morning
- wait in a queue for 10 minutes
- buy PS5 at MSRP
- have PS5 delivered to house 4 days later

I think it was a maximum active time investment of 30 minutes

and the end result was that for my birthday, I gave myself a PS5

i've done the first few steps and will continue when there's a ps5 game i want to play

I've been actively searching (albeit on and off) for months on end

/shakes fist at DJP

I would have had one last week (and probably today, had I been paying attention) if I'd read the full instructions.

There's a Walmart+ (or something) plan that lets you hit a queue not available to everyone else. I hadn't noticed last week that you couldn't be on the trial and had to be on the real plan so I was five minutes late. A few friends have gotten one that way.

You'd be paying MSRP + the plan price ($12.99) though

I'm actually really good at stalking stuff, and generally really patient, too, whether it's for Springsteen on Broadway tickets or Pappy Van Winkle bottles (at retail!). But the PS5, I dunno. Maybe it's the price, maybe it's just the general real scarcity, maybe (probably) it's because I'm more than happy with my PS4, but it's just one step too many for me. And because I'm so satisfied with the PS4, I sure as shit am not going to pay MSRP, let anything on top of that.

you could have just led with the last sentence

like, if you aren’t interested in msrp, the rest is just faffing around

Ha, fair enough. But if they *were* more widely available I'd at least have the option to *consider* buying one at MSRP, or the option to wait for a sale, or even the option to tell my family I'd like one for my birthday. Right now it's high-pressure salesmanship, however inadvertently: if you want one and find one you need to buy one, because you don't know when you'll get another chance. For comparison, I'm also unlikely to pay retail for, say, Elden Ring, a game I really want to play and know I eventually *will* play, but that's partly because it's widely available and not going anywhere, so I know if I ever got FOMO impatient and changed my mind I *could* buy it at retail. There's just no external market pressure to do so. There's probably an economic name for this, I have no idea.

Game consoles don't go on sale, they have price drops

Not even on black friday or whenever? Anyway, tomato, tomato.

yeah the boxes are already sold at a pretty low margin (negative in some cases? xbox was for a while) so they can't drop the price willy nilly like they can with games which are basically free to produce

err free to produce copies once the game exists i mean, of course

the only way you usually get “deals” on a console is in a bundle where the other crap is discounted

you're lucky in 2022 just to be able to buy the console by itself without gift cards/PSN memberships/headphones/old sports games/what-have-you packed in

Couple of articles recently came out comparing sales of the PS5 to sales of the PS4 over the same launch-to-16-month timespan, and PS5 is lagging by about 1.8 million sales. I assume that's largely due to scarcity, combined with people (like me) still getting a lot of satisfaction from the last gen.

the latter happens every generation though so thats not a factor. its just scarcity + generally console sales have trended down a bit over time due to various factors (smartphones, way more competition for entertainment time from streaming)

I paid $50 more on MSRP on mine, second hand, last week. Still feel a bit dirty but I'm also sort of obsessive and know that I would have spent more than $50 in mental energy and stress from constantly searching and refreshing webpages for stock. I haven't yet learnt how to compartmentalise the part of my brain that decides it wants a thing.

oh well! I'm having fun now and that's all that matters

https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/29/23001164/sony-playstation-plus-subscriptions-price-release-date

Sony is announcing new versions of its PlayStation Plus subscriptions today, its long-rumored answer to Xbox Game Pass. PlayStation Plus is now a combination of Sony’s two current subscription services, PlayStation Plus and PlayStation Now. Two new PlayStation Plus subscription options will include access to multiplayer gaming alongside a catalog of select PlayStation games to install or stream.

These new tiers will start to become available in June in Asia, followed by North America, Europe, and the rest of the world. As part of the launch, PlayStation Now will no longer be available as a standalone service.

...

At launch, Sony plans to include games like Death Stranding, God of War, Marvel’s Spider-Man, Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Mortal Kombat 11, and Returnal. Sony isn’t making its upcoming exclusive PlayStation games available on launch day through this subscription service though, making it less of an Xbox Game Pass competitor.

PlayStation Plus Essential — includes multiplayer access, two monthly downloadable games, discounts, and cloud storage for game saves. Priced at $9.99 per month or $59.99 a year.

PlayStation Plus Extra — includes everything in Plus Essential and access to a catalog of up to 400 PS4 or PS5 games. Priced at $14.99 per month or $99.99 a year.

PlayStation Plus Premium — includes all benefits from Essential and Extra, with an extra 340 games that include PS3 titles that can be streamed and some original PlayStation, PS2, and PSP games. Time-limited game trials also available. Priced at $17.99 per month or $119.99 a year.

need lists of these games imo

Seems like it was priced so that if you were already a Plus and Now subscriber, that's $120 a year which now = the top tier. Considering existing Plus is roughly $40-45 year on discount, there's going to have been a steep sale on codes to make me join the higher tiers.
And yes, we definitely need a list of games.

Kinda was hoping that there would be a cheaper-than-current-plans option for just online multiplayer, oh well.

yeah the only reason i have it right now is so my 10-yo can play minecraft w his friends