PS.. is it 5? I think we're on 5 now. PS5

can't believe the new ps5 controller has a 'honk' button! incredible! pic.twitter.com/3LEUX6jxwl

— Crows Crows Crows (@crowsx3) April 8, 2020

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/ps5/

this is the new controller
http://i.imgur.com/AEfMwvE.png
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:08 PM

The DualSense iterates on its predecessors by introducing a new haptic feedback system, adaptive triggers for the L2 and R2 buttons, a built-in microphone array, and a new ‘Create’ button in place of the ‘Share’ button from the DualShock 4. Details on what exactly this ‘Create’ feature actually entails is still to come.
“In all, we went through several concepts and hundreds of mockups over the last few years before we settled on this final design,” Nishino wrote. “DualSense has been tested by a wide range of gamers with a variety of hand sizes, in order for us to achieve the comfort level we wanted, with great ergonomics. Our goal with DualSense is to give gamers the feeling of being transported into the game world as soon as they open the box. We want gamers to feel like the controller is an extension of themselves when they’re playing – so much so that they forget that it’s even in their hands!”
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:09 PM

a little more xbox-ish, but not too much
looks pretty
― mh, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:10 PM

dont like how that looks nearly as much as the ds4
― ciderpress, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:11 PM

i presume you can turn off the microphone. what a nightmare to have voice chat on EVERY GAME
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:12 PM

every time any of the console makers change their controller i have to worry that they've made something that's not comfortable for my giant hands. the current gen ones are all ideal
― ciderpress, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:14 PM

"This will be the first controller that is already it's own Overwatch variant"
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:23 PM

the new controller looks like it’s wearing a little black spaghetti-strap dress
― force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:25 PM

The current controllers are great, except they keep breaking down for me. My original one has phantom R2 inputs and generally unresponsive, and on the newer one the down button only works about 1/10th of the time. This makes for a fun challenge in Dark Souls 3, where I never know if I'll be able to change consumable items or not.
Admittedly, this is probably related to the fact that I now mostly play while I'm on the stationary bike, with sweaty hands. :/
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:29 PM

xp lol
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:30 PM

Maybe that's not a speaker, maybe that's a fan that blows in your face to make you feel like you are outside.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:34 PM

The DS4 already has a speaker!
― Triceratops Vowell (Leee), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:36 PM

oh yeah one of my 2 DS4s has a bad stick. but at least it doesn't cramp my hands up
― ciderpress, Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:58 PM

Karl Malone's milk post: thanks mate, you really cheered me up!
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 6:57 PM

:D hey man, i'm just giving you a glimpse of the future. glad to see the synergy with the thinking behind the new PS5 controller!
"Our goal with DualSense is to give gamers the feeling of being transported into the game world as soon as they open the box. We want gamers to feel like the controller is an extension of themselves when they’re playing – so much so that they forget that it’s even in their hands!"
*hundreds of journalists hands go up*
"WILL WE BE ABLE TO PUSH MILK WITH OUR "HANDS" USING THE PS5 CONTROLLER???"
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 7:10 PM

i cannot state strongly enough how much the new controller looks like it’s wearing a little black dress and it’s freaking me out

phew i’m glad i now say that twice itt

next generation baby

i agree that the new controller is wearing a dress and the analog sticks are its honkers

the internet agrees
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-04-09-of-course-people-are-drawing-the-ps5-controller-as-an-anime-girl

the controller is also wearing pauldrons

Sources tell Bloomberg that this year, Sony will be producing a lower number of PlayStation 5 consoles. The cause, reportedly, isn’t due to the novel coronavirus covid-19 pandemic, but rather, the hardware’s high price at launch.

The console’s technical specs are expected to be reflected in the pricing, Bloomberg added, and there has been speculation that the PS5 will be priced between $499 and $549. Certain components are scarce and expensive, which could cut into the company’s profits on each machine.

Kotaku reached out to Sony but did not receive a reply prior to publication.

Production might be impacted by the pandemic. Sony employees are working from home, and Sony might ditch in-person press events for the console. Earlier this year, the company held a virtual briefing to announce the console’s specs.

The PS5’s assembly is expected to begin in June. While Sony has revealed the console’s controller, only a small handful of insiders have apparently seen what the actual console looks like, for fear of leaks.

Sony was quoted as telling its partners that it will make 5 to 6 million PS5s during the financial year ending on March 31, 2021. In comparison, Sony sold 7.5 million PS3s during that console’s first two quarters. The goal is still for a simultaneous worldwide launch, but the pandemic is impacting game production across the industry, which could impact the debut titles.

At launch, the PlayStation 3 was hard to get, so expect the PlayStation 5 to be even more so.

is anyone here thinking of trying to be an early adopter?

I am going to buy this console. i missed out on the ps4/xbox one generation

when is there a game worth playing for it is the question

i haven't been an early adopter since i somehow managed to convince my dad to buy me a psx right when it came out (crazy knowing that it was like $600+ with memory card + a game, even back then!)

i know it's a bad idea, but honestly if there's some sort of must have launch title (super mario 64 or BOTW-esque) i can see myself doing it

xp

ulysses otm

has playstation ever had a must-have launch title? like one that's a top-ten recommendation for the console, even at the end of the lifecycle?

i don't see a reason to early adopt if you have a 4

the launch titles will be the last of us 2 with better loading times and ghost of tsushima with better loading times

and knack 3

I was kinda tempted to early adopt on both this gen... but who knows. There probably won't be a great system exclusive for at least a year or two anyway

yeah i don't really see anything in the pipe or rumored pipe i care about that isn't going to get a ps4 version, would have to be some left field surprise

plus - with these supply constraints I'm betting they'll rush out the first hardware revision even sooner than usual

and if these launch at $500... hmm.. i dunno

what's the point? wait a couple years and see if sony actually continues to deliver decent exclusives. current gen console quality has never been an indicator of next gen console quality. i've come to expect the inverse lately.

i mean, wow?
https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/a-first-look-at-unreal-engine-5

Knack 3 will be phenomenal

wow!

i got bored after 10 minutes but it does look nice

UE4 demo for comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD9CPqSKjTU

I don't have a PS4 but I guess it took a bit for PS4 games to get as good as the demo?

never believe the demo is a good rule of thumb, but that UE4 looks worse than god of war honestly.

never believe the demo is a good rule of thumb, but that UE4 looks worse than god of war honestly.

I can't tell if this is a put-down or not (honestly!). Because I just (barely) started God of War a couple of weeks ago, and not only thought it looked great, but thought that PS5 Unreal 5 demo was maybe technically better quality, down to the little programmer details, but not to my maybe weak eyes radically better, good as it looked.

i got bored after 10 minutes but it does look nice

Um, isn't the video 9 minutes long? No wonder you got bored.

the demo should be reasonably representative for what constrained area/camera games like god of war or whatever will look like, open world games have more technical hurdles obviously

Looks fantastic

https://kotaku.com/playstation-5-game-showcase-happening-next-thursday-1843754372

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/06/08/updated-time-this-thursday-see-the-future-of-gaming-on-ps5/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

will be watching.

give us a fuckin price sony

Not buying until gta6 comes out

well duh

(been my rule for the past two ps machines)

I have a PS4 Slim and I've been very happy with it, so much so that I'm not sure what a PS5 would give me that I don't already have or want in a machine. Besides exclusives, I guess, but that stuff is totally under wraps, given that hyped heavy hitters Last of Us 2, Cyberpunk 2077 and Ghost of Tsushima are coming out for PS4.

there is no point in buying a new console until there are games worth playing on it, idk why people even humor the thought of buying near launch

clout

fanboys + people who didnt have the previous box

I have Gamespot gift cards and GS is near death and my PS4 optical drive is dead. First time I’ll be buying a new system ASAP.

GTA though? Man, that’s been downhill from 4 on.

It would be be Spider-Man 2 for me. But I don't know, something about the general anxiety of this year might lead to just get this and maybe the MS one too

So just caught the Demon's Souls remake, what else have I missed/

HZD sequel so you better play the first one sooner than later!

Eh, I've got a couple of years before I even consider PS5.

FUGLY

better have good cooling because that's going in a drawer

that is seriously rank

looks like a router

did it not come with a hdmi cable? mine came with one, albeit short

It did come with one, but it was too short. So I at first just swapped out my PS4 for the PS5, using the same cable, and when that didn't work well I swapped the PS cable with the Switch cable, which also didn't consistently work that well. I bought a "premium" higher capacity HDMI cable for something like $8, one that would reach, so now it's just a matter of seeing if the problem persists. I also changed the resolution from automatic to 1080p (which a few places recommended), and maybe one of the other settings, too. If nothing goes wrong with the new cable I'll change the settings back and see if anything happens then. The PS5 definitely boots in safe mode, so that's a good thing. I assume if it's not the cable it's some sort of handshake headache with the TV, though who knows.

I’ve had to swap out almost all of my hdmi cables in the last couple years as I bought 4k junk, and then had to get yet another when I added a 4k hdr 120Hz device, so…. cable seems likely

Played a bunch of Spider-man today, and so far, so good. No issues, so hopefully it was just the cable.

I'm playing the remastered version for PS5, and so far the graphics and gameplay are only subtly better, but that says more about how good the game looked and played on PS4. The biggest difference is the load times, which are minimal, compared to several seconds on the PS4. Which again wasn't really that bad, but it just makes the game that much zippier.

I finished the Miles Morales one. Ended up flipping to the performance mode almost instantly. It's definitely a first generation PS5 game in that it's just a little bit better than the PS4. It's Spider-Man, you gotta go fast!

Yeah, the new "premium" HDMI cable seems to have done the trick. It's definitely a relief that the most likely problem was also the easiest and cheapest to solve, because if it was an issue with the PS5 or TV it might have been a lot harder to figure out, let alone fix.

Not too many must-have PS5 exclusives yet, but I noticed that Ratchet & Clank and Demon's Souls are both down to $40 already, so that's good. I wonder if they'll drop any lower around Black Friday?

The global economic environment is a challenge that many of you around the world are no doubt experiencing. We’re seeing high global inflation rates, as well as adverse currency trends, impacting consumers and creating pressure on many industries. Based on these challenging economic conditions, SIE has made the difficult decision to increase the recommended retail price (RRP) of PlayStation 5 in select markets across Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA), Asia-Pacific (APAC), Latin America (LATAM), as well as Canada. There will be no price increase in the United States.

While this price increase is a necessity given the current global economic environment and its impact on SIE’s business, our top priority continues to be improving the PS5 supply situation so that as many players as possible can experience everything that PS5 offers and what’s still to come.

Thank you for your continued support.

has a company ever increased the price of a system post launch? feels unique.

I’m not sure about prices outside of the US, but here’s an interesting bit from a while back about the Switch:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/08/will-the-nintendo-switch-ever-see-a-price-drop/

I don't remember any kind of price increase for a console before, but considering inflation and supply chain issues, we are in pretty unique times, at least in the time since gaming consoles are a thing. I wouldn't be surprised if other companies do the same thing.

Anyway, I'm glad that I managed to get a ps5 in June

Reading comments, a lot of people think this is related mostly to currency devaluation, esp. relative to the dollar, which is why the US didn't see a price hike (yet).

love the way Sony keep giving me excuses to not buy their console
where is PS5 slim at

i'll buy one in jan 2026 to align with when i bought my ps4

by then it might even have games

Honestly, I'd be happy if developers just spent the next two years optimizing all the PS4 games I haven't played yet for PS5. Then when they're done they can get to work on some sweet exclusives. Like a remade Bloodborne or a fourth version of The Last of Us.

Just finished "Spider-man Remastered," and given it's not easily purchased but shows off the faster loading screens and subtly improved graphics of the PS5 it really should have come packaged with the system, imo.

Just began the PS5 optimized version of "Control," which I'd been holding off on starting due to tales of performance issues on last gen systems. So far plays really well on the PS5, which affirms my suspicion that the PS5 (so far) really operates as more of a PS4 Pro 2. Which is fine with me, since I never got the Pro, but I look forward to more games designed specifically for the PS5 that can do stuff that only the PS5 can do, and not just more or less the PS4 with slightly faster load times and ray tracing.

but does it have Spider-man in it?

"Control"? Not yet, but I have high hopes!

It's pretty creepy, so I wouldn't be shocked if at some point it had spiders, man.

"Control" on the PS5 is actually pretty neat, and per one of my previous posts seems like the sort of thing that would have struggled on slower systems. Just all the physics and particles and explosive desk parts flying around, it all seems like the perfect game for a faster processor (or PC, lol, but that's always the case).

A friend managed to grab a PS5 as they went on sale on the official site at 4.30pm UK time. By the time I got round to it, standalone disc consoles were sold out. P frustrating

"State of Play" today, iirc. I expect "God of War" footage but there are a bunch of other exciting things that could further be teased.

What a weird presentation.

I got my Ps5 today but I'm tearing my hair out trying to get my saved game data from my PS4 to my PS5.

I've looked up all the different methods, connected the two consoles via ethernet cable etc.

It says to follow instructions and when prompted, hold down the standby button on the PS4 for one second until it beeps, but nothing happens - there is no beep. The PS4 is supposed to reset but nothing happens and the prompt times out.

The other option is to do it via USB. I have the extended storage I used on my PS4 and it seems to have all my games show up fine. But when I go into settings and try to copy saved data from the USB drive it says it's not connected.

I'm baffled. My friend who got her PS5 today said it all got sorted out during initial set up and she can access her saved games fine. I'm sure I did everything correctly in set up, so I'm not sure why I'm having this problem.

Anyone here know about these things?

unfortunately no. I transferred everything on my ps4 to an external drive then connected it to the ps5 and that did the trick.

i don't think you can put both game installs and related save data on the same external drive. i guess your saved data is only on your ps4's internal drive, that's why connecting the USB drive doesn't transfer it

if you have another usb drive lying around, use that to backup your ps4 saves then plug it into the ps5. i believe that for save backups, any FAT32 or exFAT formatted drive will do, even if you have other files in there

alternatively, if you have a ps+ sub, perhaps you could work around this by uploading all of your saves to their servers, then downloading back to your ps5.
i can't guarantee this would work because for me everything went smoothly when transferring via ethernet cable

Huh. I followed the same PS setup instructions and transferred over ethernet cable, and it went pretty smoothly. To transfer the save data for at least some games did involve a few extra steps, following the instructions to do it with a USB drive, but ultimately went pretty smoothly, too. Maybe follow a youtube video? I think I ended up doing that, and the visual information helped a lot.

The sneaky thing is that the PS5 can play PS4 games off an external drive, but PS5 games have to be on the system itself (I think), which confuses the save communication.

I managed to somehow fudge it for Elden Ring at least. It took a lot of effing and jeffing. I tried several methods. Most of the PS4 games are now loading saved data just fine and the few PS5 upgrade games I have don't really matter about saved data so much

It is a bit frustrating about the whole PS5 games not being savable on the external drive. I've only got a handful of games on the console and already it's pretty full up.

I was surprised to find it's a little bit noisy too. Nothing deafening, but definitely a noticeable whirr or hum, as it's horizontal on a TV stand shelf.

I wasn't too keen on the haptic feedback at first either but I guess I'm getting used to it. The little Astro game you get free with it is supposed to demonstrate it a bit. However I felt very aware of that I was holding a thing with gyros and wheels inside and rather than making it more immersive, it took me out of it a bit. Still, getting used to it as I say.

Looking forward to playing something new on this thing that really demonstrates its potential. Elden Ring looks seriously fantastic on here compared to the PS4

you definitely have to cycle in ps5 games or just be willing to play things as PS4.

Have you played the Demons Souls remake?

That one and the newest Ratchet and Clank are apparently the best showcases for what the PS5 can do, which makes me excited for more PS5 exclusives. Also, excited for seasonal sale prices to finally convince me to buy them.

the subscription service is frankly greatly diseensentivizing me buying new games which i like

there's enough i want to play on the PS+ list to keep my going for months without needing to buy anything at the moment, and not likely to be much coming out that i feel compelled to play full price for at the moment

I picked up Returnal and Demon Souls second hand. Still waiting on DS to be delivered but wow, Returnal is really something!

Have got a PS5 for my son for Christmas (well, and for me)

Do they do a PS Hits type range yet? As most of the games seem pretty pricey

Take a look at the various PS Plus options, there's a lot of games on there now

I've now got hold of Demon's Souls and Returnal and they are both lush. What's especially incredible is the 3D sound.

It's a bit of a shame that the only difference between Elden Ring on PS5 is a slight improvement to graphics and loading times - I feel they could have done more with haptic feedback and sound. As such, apparently it's recommended PS5 gamers just play the PS4 versionfor the smoothest experience. Also, my trophies don't transfer from one version to the other, and I was close to platinuming!

They still haven't optimized the PS5 port, even now? Geez

I've saved my PS4 game file for the inevitable DLC, so I don't have to replay the whole thing, but they've got to have patched whatever minor lag or whatever was going on with the PS5 version, right?

So far my favorite thing about the PS5 is actually the controller, which is generally sturdier and more responsive than the PS4 controller. The reduced loading times probably come second. Third is maybe the way it handles a bunch of stuff going on at once, like in "Control" or, I imagine, "Returnal." Last may be the graphics, but that's because the graphics on the PS4 were already pretty solid, imo, and they figured out lots of tricks to make them look even better, and the actual improvements on the PS5 (like ray tracing and other details) I find pretty subtle; even things like Digital Foundry videos take a keen eye to really notice some differences (or I at least I have trouble).

Like I said, I'm curious what they can do when developers lean into the PS5 exclusively, because so far most games are still being released dual-system. That said, groovy, keep an eye out for cheaper PS4 games with free or relatively inexpensive PS5 upgrades. Spider-mans, Control, Uncharted 4, etc. This reddit thread has been keeping track of PS5 game improvements in general:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/me452n/updated_list_of_60_fps_games/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

The PS5 version of Elden Ring does look nice - there are tiny moments of "whoa" you get, just the texture of grass or the way the light plays, that doesn't happen on PS4. That said, I found there was a bit of jerkiness when in the mode that's optimised for graphics, not so much the FPS mode.

Sadly I can't upgrade Control because I didn't buy the right edition. Same with Death Stranding which I'm really looking forward to playing - I'll have to buy the Director's Cut

Yeah, I had the same issue with Control, but I just waited for the Ultimate Edition to go on sale. I doubt I paid more than $20 for the game on PS4, so another $20 a couple of years later was nbd.

I just don't want to play 30-40 hours again to get back to the end of the game. Maybe before the inevitable sequel comes out or something

So far I've yet to find a game I want to play twice. Elden Ring, for example, I enjoyed it, but the notion of putting 80+ hours into it again, it makes me shudder. Same with the other From games, or Hollow Knight; learning the controls again alone would be maddening, let alone sharpening skills. Maybe RDR2, if they upgraded it (which I think they decided against?).

A friend gave me her copy of Forbidden West and I really would love to play it, but I only got a short way through the original game - does it matter?

I'm almost done with FW and never played the first one. It was a bit confusing at times in terms of story, but I never really regretted it. I think I read the wikipedia about the first one once just to understand some of the backstory

I loved the first one, and can't imagine skipping it. But I haven't played the second one yet because I only relatively recently played the first and am not ready for the second, which I assume is more of the same. So: game limbo.

HZD ends on a cliffhanger which HFW picks up, and though it kind of pains me to say, you might get more out of HFW than brute-forcing your way through HZD, as the first game has a number of rough edges that bothered me (floaty physics, serviceable dialogue at best, desultory art direction during cut scenes). That said, I also would recommend people play HFW on a PS5 or at least a PS4 Pro -- I played on a Slim and through ~11 patches, I still had issues with things like shimmering and asset pop-in.

yeah the cliffhanger aspect was definitely a little weird as a starting point, and there were a few moments where I wondered if I shouldn't have started it as a standalone. It's def more of a sequel than, say, Witcher 3 which I also played without playing the others.

But idk ultimately I like games like that for wandering around and doing whatever I want and tend not to get super invested in the story (and I found the writing/acting pretty variable tbh), so ymmv