Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice - From Software and Hidetaka Miyazaki's new game for PS4, XBone, PC

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Out on March 22. Samurai Dark Souls maybe? I am incautiously excited.

https://www.sekirothegame.com/
https://www.polygon.com/2019/3/6/18253125/sekiro-shadows-die-twice-preview-impressions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoWI1LazLtQ

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 20:34 (five years ago) link

Things to know:

- No PVP, no multiplayer
- YOU CAN PAUSE!!!!!!1!!!
- Activision is publishing but there's no monetization in the works
- Stab a giant rooster in the head

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 20:37 (five years ago) link

- Stab a giant rooster in the head


sold

invited to an unexpected ninja presentation (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link

preordered btw

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 20:43 (five years ago) link

That game looks ... awesome. And fast. And hard. Be great if that was the real music.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 23:03 (five years ago) link

does it have dynamic horse testicles

ciderpress, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 23:10 (five years ago) link

- YOU CAN PAUSE!!!!!!1!!!

Not only that, you can SWIM.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 23:18 (five years ago) link

Which boats well for aquatic duels in the next Soulslike game.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 23:19 (five years ago) link

boats = "bodes", but lol

I'm excited for this, despite the multiplayer having become my favorite part of From (or pretty much any) games.

Speaking of the music, I thought this was really cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9NpbnBaDPE

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 23:21 (five years ago) link

i am okay and maybe even more than okay with this being single player only. i will miss the interactive qualities of messages and ghosts but i dunno how they would program combat with the water/grappling hook to not be buggy as fuck and HEY pausing!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 7 March 2019 02:36 (five years ago) link

apparently, no falling damage too!
I'm appreciative of the suggestion that there's an immense amount of nuance and difference from stage to stage; was a bit afeared it was all gonna be japanese villages. the verticality of it all looks superdope.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 7 March 2019 02:39 (five years ago) link

glad there's grains

ciderpress, Thursday, 7 March 2019 02:41 (five years ago) link

There's still fall damage iirc, it's just minimal

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 7 March 2019 04:05 (five years ago) link

These motherfuckers...so apparently there's the resurrection mechanic to instantly come back from a death, but it's balanced out by a GUILT mechanic where using it makes your npc buddies get sick (and probably die).

https://youtu.be/SWIgpuVA2-U?t=846

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 7 March 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link

lol i am into this though i will likely kill all my in game guys on my first run through
"Please for the love of god GIT GUD"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:02 (five years ago) link

so i am getting pretty excited about this now
this is inessential viewing but it has a great bit at the end that hit my sweet spot: "every game by from software arrives like a sort of birthday present just for you"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4V8HAvZcS4

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:20 (five years ago) link

Heh, that's pretty good. I am excited enough that when my partner said "I won't be home on Sunday, I have an all day continuing education seminar", um, I wasn't exactly dismayed.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link

having seen more footage now this looks very much not like dark souls other than being difficult. it's a stealth action game

ciderpress, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link

Seems like a riff on Souls concepts, playing against things they've done before? Like getting rid of the stamina bar but adding the 'posture' mechanic that forces you to parry.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:18 (five years ago) link

most reviews seem to think this is significantly harder than dark souls

ciderpress, Thursday, 21 March 2019 15:59 (five years ago) link

my copy is waiting for me at home

i am psyched

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 March 2019 16:02 (five years ago) link

mine is en route; I'm busy all weekend but will need to do some late night exploration. super psyched, may need to cancel some plans tbh!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 21 March 2019 16:41 (five years ago) link

the whole "Spider Souls" vibe i'm getting has me confounded and crazy curious

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 21 March 2019 16:43 (five years ago) link

Psyched for the difficulty curve and to be bad at a new game.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 21 March 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link

this seems v promising after the first hour of play - feels good to be blowing the dust off my parrying muscle memory

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:45 (five years ago) link

where's my game mr azmazong mang

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 March 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link

not cool amazon, get it fuckin sorted

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 March 2019 18:26 (five years ago) link

I got the digital this time (mostly so I never have to take the DS3 disc out, lol), all downloaded and ready to go. My terrible internet appreciates the relatively small file size.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 22 March 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link

sorted! Loading! Won't be able to play until late night but making sure it's installed and updated so i can actually have a go at it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 March 2019 18:53 (five years ago) link

i suppose a 2.5 gig patch day of release is sort of standard these days? this is why nintendo makes money you guys: plug and play.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 March 2019 18:54 (five years ago) link

a lot of Nintendo games have patches now though it's mostly to add dlc or improve performance and not to fix game breaking bugs

ciderpress, Friday, 22 March 2019 19:00 (five years ago) link

I picked myself up off the ground and rushed at him. He began an onslaught of attacks and, after six hours of learning his style and developing the muscle memory, I just started parrying on instinct. Each one of his swings and each arrow he fired was met with a perfectly timed raise of my sword. Every unblockable attack he lunged at me with was sidestepped or hopped immaculately. I watched as his Posture deplete, edging closer to the breaking point, and at the same time I could feel my breathing become more rapid, my thumbs beginning to tremble. I wore him down and delivered a Deathblow, backed away, and did it all over again, and a third time. In that final moment when I pierced through him with my katana, I was completely overcome with emotion. After six gruelling hours of failure, the winning battle lasted just six minutes. I'm not too proud to admit that I cried, and I'd do it all over again.

I will never play this game lol

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 22 March 2019 23:26 (five years ago) link

It's not a deathblow if you have to do it three times imo

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 22 March 2019 23:33 (five years ago) link

death-edging

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 March 2019 00:18 (five years ago) link

on a scale of 0 - 450, how important is parrying in this game?

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 01:12 (five years ago) link

420

ciderpress, Saturday, 23 March 2019 01:14 (five years ago) link

Only had time to go through the tutorial section, but it feels good so far! I like the new parry (deflect) mechanic. Died once.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 23 March 2019 02:57 (five years ago) link

first mini boss killed me 25 times then suddenly i figured it out and slaughtered him w/out even needing a flask/gourd. resigned myself to an unstoppable dragonrot epidemic

adam, Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:47 (five years ago) link

That guy took me awhile too. Seems like you need to be very aggressive and stay close, but also learn their attacks. I also realized that you can interrupt his special attacks, but I'm sure that's not true of all bosses.

Now I'm sword-fishing for carp.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 23 March 2019 14:42 (five years ago) link

yeah kiting him did and trying to chip away with shurikens did me no good.

also if you throw a fistful of ash in his face you can get a few hits in, enough to trigger his posture-healing routine (which can be interrupted and punished).

tenchu vibes are strong here with the rooftops and the grappling hook and raining death upon unsuspecting mooks.

adam, Saturday, 23 March 2019 15:50 (five years ago) link

Got through a lot of mini-bosses (bosses?) yesteday! I feel like I'm juuust starting to get the hang of the combat. Although, most of the bosses that seem impossible at first are much easier with the right prosthetic/skill/upgrade/stealth approach. There's probably a 'hardcore' way to do them with straight up combat. Two little things that I didn't realize until a friend told me:

1) You can do a charged thrust attack by holding down R1 (I had no idea)

2) For the secret doors in this game, you have to hug the wall

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 25 March 2019 14:34 (five years ago) link

This is a pretty good characterization of the combat system (shows a couple mini-bosses from later on) -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PekhBmZOd1Q

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 25 March 2019 14:35 (five years ago) link

So, did you all give up, or

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link

lol, i got nailed with work and haven't touched this beyond the introduction of the grappling hook! Likely gonna need to wait until mid-summer before i can dig in.
whats the general takeaway from y'all who are playing?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link

Everyone took the game back to the shop because they can't beat the Chained Ogre and consider his grab attacks to be "bullshit". Lots of soul-searching going on about how we raised such a disappointing generation of people

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link

Ha. That's probably the easiest, most Souls-friendly miniboss so far!

Honestly I'm loving this game. It's been relatively linear so far but seems to be just starting to open up.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 17:55 (five years ago) link

not had as much time to play this as i’d hoped but it’s an intriguing new twist on soulsborne so far - finding it a bit of a challenge to get a handle on but it’s a rewarding one

recreational colonoscopies 4 u (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:05 (five years ago) link

honestly tempted to either say fuck it to everything else in my life and disappear down a GIT GUD rabbithole or else just watch minimized youtube/twitch of playthroughs
being a grown up is not cool

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link

I feel you, I've really only been playing on the weekends when my partner is working. A friend of mine, who is a professor and "on spring break", has been texting my constantly about playing it. We are very mature adults.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:34 (five years ago) link

OK the boss fight at the top of the castle is fucking amazing

Like if Ornstein and Smough were fun

"mid-air lightning parry" is a bit of a fkn heavy duty mechanic to introduce during the third stage of a gruelling boss fight though

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 1 April 2019 23:11 (five years ago) link

This is the only Fromsoft Soulsbornelike game I don't own. I've badly wanted to check it out for a while now as it seems to polarise opinion - a real Marmite game. But it's always very expesnive (£60 full price, £40 in CEX). It's on sale on PSN at the moment for £30 and I am trying not to spend too much more this month. Do I snap it up? Is it worth it?

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Friday, 2 June 2023 14:15 (one year ago) link

fwiw i loved it. as mentioned above, my favourite combat in any fromsoft game.

Fizzles, Friday, 2 June 2023 14:28 (one year ago) link

Do it! It's their tightest game, just know that it's less "play however you want" and more about learning the combat systems as they are. And it has a grappling hook.

People have called it a rhythm game, and I guess if you are a person who really doesn't do well with reacting to cues in a reasonable amount of time, then you might not enjoy it.

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2023 14:36 (one year ago) link

Okay I've done it. If I can't afford to eat by the end of the month at least I'll have Sekiro

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Friday, 2 June 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link

Oh wow this game is sooo good and sooo funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUCoUivFlIU

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Saturday, 3 June 2023 15:25 (one year ago) link

First impressions:

- a beautiful looking game on the whole. Nice to see after the browns and monochromes of the other Soulsborne games (other than Elden Ring of course)
- Love the whole sneaky stealth getting the drop on enemies part of the game. It takes real tact
- love the combat side of it for the most part but not sure about the unblockable moves. I can't seem to anticipate what the enemies are telegraphing in time. Does the Japanese word that flashes up change according to what move they're going to do?
- those giant roosters should not be underestimated. The number of times I've cleared the last soldier out of an area only to have a chicken kill me from behind...
- pretty as it is, I hope the decor switches up a bit as at the moment it's mostly pagodas and snow
- it seems you can skip while parts of this game? You can run past everything. There was a mini boss dressed in white who did a lot of thrust attacks I just couldn't deflect. I got fed up with him and found some other area that took me up to a cave and now I'm in a whole new place with buildings on fire. I can't tell if I've just snuck past the boss or if I've taken an alternate route
- in conclusion: lots of fun, but tough as old boots even for a FromSoft game

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Monday, 5 June 2023 11:21 (one year ago) link

the roosters are assholes.

Fizzles, Monday, 5 June 2023 12:15 (one year ago) link

It wouldn't be a From game if you couldn't run past 99% of enemies.

It's been awhile...I remembered that you don't have the Mikiri counter (for countering thrust attacks) at the start of the game, but had forgotten that you have to get it from the skill tree: https://sekiroshadowsdietwice.wiki.fextralife.com/Mikiri+Counter. It's extremely satisfying to pull off, and for some fights you're trying to read low attacks vs thrust attacks vs normal ones.

That mini-boss is probably optional, and I think there are some parts of the game that can be done in a different order?

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link

I seem to have no problem doing things like the mikiri counter on the practice zombie. Bosses feel different

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Monday, 5 June 2023 15:11 (one year ago) link

Without question, the "Sekiro" bosses are harder than anything in the other From games. So many of the fights are about timing, with no room for error, and the imposed limitations of the game make it hard to steamroll anything through cheese or OP technique.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 June 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link

It confounds me why sometimes in these games certain parts seem a lot easier than others. I struggled so much on most of the mini bosses but I merked Demon Ogyoubu Oniwa (the guy on the horse) first attempt with hardly any damage

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Monday, 12 June 2023 16:36 (one year ago) link

For all its emphasis on deflecting and smart counterattacks, I've found that the best strategy for this game so far is generally to attack as aggressively as possible

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Monday, 12 June 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link

In general, this one and Bloodborne are the two From games that reward aggression the most.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 June 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link

Piece of piss

📹


iirc i beat him first time as well much to my surprise (i am not a soulsborne pro). the next one up is *an absolute prick* tho iirc.

Fizzles, Monday, 12 June 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link

Oh I struggled so much with even some of the minor minibosses. Chained Ogre took ages

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Monday, 12 June 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

Every one of these games have a couple of bosses that are just absolute pushovers. No idea why. If memory serves, just about every other boss in Sekiro is a huge, imposing challenge, with the exception of one novelty boss level.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 June 2023 17:04 (one year ago) link

the pushover is a delight in sekiro. just a lovely gimmick boss level.

Fizzles, Monday, 12 June 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link

I just googled to remind myself, and man, there are some bosses and mini bosses that gave me sooooo much trouble.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 June 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link

It was the Demons Souls bosses that confounded me the most. I think I only had major trouble with about three of them? And half of them went down first time. Some of them barely put up a fight at all, just stood there letting me wail on them

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Monday, 12 June 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link

Stuck between a bull and a butterfly. The procession of bosses and mini-bosses is relentless, which is a shame because I definitely like the stealth/explore parts of these games more than trying to work out the best combination of moves will help to cheese which impossible boss. Drunkard Juzuo took at least 20-30 tries.

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Monday, 19 June 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link

It is a weird balance, when I think about it, between stealth and totally aggro relentless fights required to advance.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 June 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link

So far I've either aced a boss or struggled loads and had to rely on semi-cheesing (deaggroing them then backstabbing)

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Monday, 19 June 2023 16:17 (one year ago) link

Tbh I don't remember maintaining stealth very often in this game.

This is probably the least cheese-able game out of all the From games, in terms of bosses. It's been awhile but they all use the mechanics in a slightly different way, and force you to fight on their terms (some are more about doing vitality damage, others are more about breaking their posture, etc). I guess the 'cheese' comes in using items or ninja skills that they're weak to.

Highly recommend checking out some of these silly but informative videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMFJMCWtY-w

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link

Ok I think I'm going to have to start another playthrough :)

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link

that fuckin bull tho.

Fizzles, Monday, 19 June 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link

Half the reason I want to play this again is that I now know you can parry the bull.

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link

The stealth stuff, iirc, involved hiding in tall grass, leaping from roof to roof, etc, then zipping down for a kill, stuff like that.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 June 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

I did forget that you can often use stealth to get rid of one of some (but definitely not all) bosses' life bars.

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link

yeah, so this was the only way I could beat Juzuo the Drunk (the sumo guy on Hirata Estate).

There's a way to sneak through the building on the left hand side, sneak up behind one of his aids, backstab, run behind the building again until they de-aggro, and repeat. You can then get a cheeky stealth backstab on the boss before fighting him properly (with the help of that fella standing in the water to distract him).

If you don't kill all his aids first, it's a really tough fight. Even if you do, it's tricky as anything. I was subsisting on left-hand dodge rolls and then hitting him in the back a few times. Bu the rhythm would be interrupted when he would push me into a corner or against a rock.

I don't know whether things like the "sneak/backstab/de-aggro/repeat" method is the "right" way to do it, or indeed if it counts as cheesing, but it's in the game I guess? If this is how hard the early minibosses are, god knows what to expect for the rest of the game.

I'm really bad at knowing which moves are being telegraphed, and more often than not I just can't parry or do the correct type of riposte anywhere close to in time. There have been points where I SWEAR I've hit the correct button and just watch as the enemy picks me up and stomps me to an inch of my health bar.

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 11:06 (one year ago) link

i think in that sort of fight you’re certainly expected to pick off the minions, before tackling the big boss, though that back route feels a bit cheesy, as you say. mainly because they do not react as their mates fall to the ground around them.

my general approach is “absolutely do not care how i achieve beating this boss, the easier the better”.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 11:21 (one year ago) link

Great general approach. Anything else is insanity tbh

hrep (H.P), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 11:32 (one year ago) link

I started a new game and it's feeling great so far.

You're totally right about there being no right way to win - items, backstabs, 'cheese', whatever. But later bosses might be harder to beat by slowly chipping down their vitality and running away, because they have huge health pools or are really good at blocking/deflecting your attacks. So you'll probably be forced at some point to win by breaking their posture, which requires you to keep on top of them (basically deflecting their attacks, and attacking when they stop attacking, and dodging/countering their perilous attacks - the ones telegraphed by those Japanese symbols and some sort of movement tell).

There have been points where I SWEAR I've hit the correct button and just watch as the enemy picks me up and stomps me to an inch of my health bar.

Yeah, you'll never be able to parry/counter a grab attack, those are the ones where you need to get a sense of the telegraph move and just jump back/dodge/run out of the way.

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link

Man, early ogre grab attack, giant monkey grab attack ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:22 (one year ago) link

Also tbf I don't think you're supposed to constantly deflect/parry huge enemies with huge swords like Juzou, because they're huge and cause a ton of posture build-up.

And also once an enemy's vitality gets low, their posture doesn't recover as fast, so maybe you can use the hit-and-run strategy for most bosses? But it will probably take way longer and be harder for some of them, and also it's fun to stay in their face and swordfight. It's definitely an adjustment from Souls, which drill dodging and spacing into you. One of those Saint Riot videos makes the point that a lot of early game bosses in Sekiro (Juzou, the bull, maybe even Lady Butterfly) do in fact require a lot of dodging and spacing, and maybe it would have been good to include more deflection-based fights in the early game.

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link

Ok I'm deeply back into this game now, just got past Genichiro on the Ashina Castle rooftop (and whatever comes after this is a bit of a haze in my memory until the end game). Such a fantastic fight.

Stealth is a *much* bigger part than I remembered, I had gotten used to fighting multiple enemies in Souls/Elden Ring but you really really don't want to do it here. Also using a lot more items and skills than in my first playthrough, I think.

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Monday, 26 June 2023 20:02 (one year ago) link

Well, the big monkey still took hours of attempts this time around. I was pretty happy with this run though, even got some spear ripostes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-E5PUOxlk8

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Sunday, 2 July 2023 14:38 (one year ago) link

Beating big monkey is what eventually gave my controller drift.

Man, I kinda want to search for old reactions from the first people that faced this boss blind.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link

I got to Lady Butterfly and got in the mood for revisiting Dark Souls. So now I'm stuck on her, the Bull and Ornstein & Smough all at the same time!

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Sunday, 2 July 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link

Haha, I think a lot should open up once you get past those walls.

I managed to first-try the ape couple, aka Sekiro's version of O&S. Same strats basically, run away (unlocked, with the camera pointed behind you), and attack the more aggressive one when you can!

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Monday, 3 July 2023 15:08 (one year ago) link

Thanks to a guide, I'm actually trying a different ending this time, the Purification one. I thought I had already broken it somehow and was about to kill the giant divine lightning dragon, but it turns out I just needed to eavesdrop on my crew a bunch.

The alternate Hirata Estate is no joke, just got to Owl pt. 2 after beating the ninja who keeps summoning dogs and Juzuo and friends pt. 2.

This game is so damn good, and I know I'm still missing a bunch of things (like once again not bothering with most of the Headless/undead minibosses).

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Thursday, 6 July 2023 14:36 (one year ago) link

Does anyone listen to the Bonfireside Chat podcast? I think it's excellent for listening to people discuss the lore of these games.

That said, I was surprised just how cold they were on Sekiro, and especially the reasons they give for not really loving it, many of which could easily be ascribed to Dark Souls anyway.

Strangely, they also dislike DS3 while stanning hard for DS2, neither of which I've played through much, but I understand goes against popular consensus

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Thursday, 6 July 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link

I haven't but I hate those opinions. Tbh I don't really care much about the lore though, I just let the vibe wash over me and I mostly care about the action/mechanics/pvp etc.

DS3 = best pvp, it's insane to think about the amount of time I spent on it, wish it was still more active

DS2 = I just can't, I'm glad it has its fans but it just doesn't feel good to me (mostly due to the art/animation/mechanics and timing of everything)

DS1 = best world design and atmosphere, always up for a comfort replay

Sekiro = best single-player game maybe?

Bloodborne = amazing game, love it and have fond memories of the main game + dlc + pvp, but for some reason I've never been able to get through a second playthrough. I usually stall out early on for some reason (maybe because I'm impatient and don't want to farm blood vials?).

And Elden Ring is just kind of the summation of everything, although I haven't felt compelled to go back to the pvp in the last few months.

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Thursday, 6 July 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link

PvP is something I've barely touched in any of these games.

In Elden Ring it seems to take forever for me to get summoned, even at the coliseums, and I think I've won, like, one match in all my time.

I have no idea how covenants work in Dark Souls either. Is it worth looking into while I'm playing the main story, or more of a post-completion thing? No idea what they are or how they work really.

I tried to get pure white tendency for Demon's Souls but that first NPC you're meant to save got himself killed. I might go back and check out black tendency but it sounds tough and the game is already tough enough!

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link

With Elden Ring I really loved getting deep into the lore. It's so rich and well fleshed-out, and you can watch endless YouTubes about it.

Lore for Demon's Souls felt more obfuscated. I played the whole thing through and I'm still not sure what was happening or why I was doing it or what the various NPCs' motives were, despite watching a good few vids.

Dark Souls, Bloodborne - no clue. Any time I try and read or watch some lore stuff they seem to be talking about later-game events I haven't reached yet. So it feels a bit like it's the kind of thing you play through once, then read up about, then play again with a much better knowledge of what's happening.

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:25 (one year ago) link

The Daddy Owl fight is now my favorite, although it definitely took a few hours to get comfortable with. So great to be able to go back and play a new-to-me boss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbFmPCqR4YQ

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Saturday, 8 July 2023 21:27 (one year ago) link

And with that I think I'm done for this run, at least for awhile. Not particularly interested in learning the Demon of Hatred and Isshin fights again, and I'm still recovering from some tendonitis and this game is making it flare up (so much left hand action with the deflecting).

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Monday, 10 July 2023 13:29 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Just started this and it is sooo much my jam. Don't know why it took me so long. I'm on record as a huge Tenchu stan and this does feel like a worthy successor though I would have liked a bit more stealth. But I won't be greedy. I love anticipating the bosses. I love having to redo little sections and just becoming amazing at them. I love the Japanese. The stances, and how you break break them, reminds me of Bushido Blade. HIGH PRAISE. I even love how the menus etc are sort of nasty and PC-like. It is incredibly responsive. I guess that's.. I dunno frame rate or something, but it's also a decision they made for your guy to be quick.

My only real complaint? The fan on my PS4 sounds like a goddamn AIR CONDITIONER when I'm playing this, even with HDR off. Any tips?? Kinda ruins the atmos

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 12:37 (ten months ago) link

Some people recommend opening it up and cleaning out the dust, but I don't recall my PS4 being that loud when I played this game, or any game, for that matter. I had a Slim.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 13:25 (ten months ago) link

Huh maybe I'll try that! I also have a slim

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 14:00 (ten months ago) link


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