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We need a thread i think.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 10 February 2019 19:47 (six months ago) link

I goddamn love this game.

I did a play through where I was unlocking all the blueprints etc., and I won normal mode, then hard mode, but found that two-boss-cell mode was simply too challenging for me; also, as I play green builds (and thus am typically reliant upon legendary drops to make it through), the full-menu of blueprints became an impediment rather than a blessing.

So I started another game on my boyfriend's account. Unlocked NO weapons except the things I like: Crusher, Ice Bow, Death Orb, Infantry Bow, Explosive Decoy. Have enjoyed some very streamlined play-throughs. Can beat HotK on normal mode with any build at this point, but haven't beat him on one-boss-cell yet (on my boyfriend's account).

I mostly want to get three-boss-cells so I can finally get that stupid gardener's key blueprint thingthing

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 10 February 2019 21:05 (six months ago) link

I can't get past more or less the first boss, the Concierge! What am I doing wrong?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 11 February 2019 17:21 (six months ago) link

Use more traps/skills! There’s no shame in cheesing your way to success in this game!

Stateleee, Plump Buck Mulleeegan (Leee), Monday, 11 February 2019 17:23 (six months ago) link

The real truth to this game is that you've just got to learn how to time your dodging and blocking. No enemy is impossible once you know it... but yes, cheesing your way until you get the patterns together is the way to do it.

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 11 February 2019 17:24 (six months ago) link

i started playing ... two weeks ago? and i have so far made it to the Hand once so i guess i still remember when the Concierge was where i had trouble. forks:

-- every attack the concierge has can be avoided
-- they each have a different warning animation
-- which is good, because you probably need to avoid each of them slightly different ways (dodge vs jump and dodge vs block, if you have a shield)

if you need more of a breather between attacks then think what equipment you might bring will help with that. most bosses aren't immune to most slowing/immobilisation/damage over time stuff

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 00:50 (six months ago) link

mostly alternating between green and red builds. i feel like legendaries break the system a bit. that said i'm generally p thankful when they show up

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 00:51 (six months ago) link

My favourite build is green-focused (7 7 20 by the end). Ice Bow or Spiked Shield paired with a complimentary legendary main weapon (the only green-specific main weapon I'll take is the symmetrical sword; my favourite build is legendary Infantry Bow paired with normal Ice Bow, but that only comes around once every 20 games). Green builds do well with Wolf Trap + Crusher. Deploy them both and high-green stats will ruin anything quickly

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 02:19 (six months ago) link

The one time I beat tHotK with a green build on 2 Boss Cells, the combination of Wolf Trap and Ice Bow basically glitched the dude out, he was trapped and frozen and flashing between two frames as I landed critical after critical with a legendary something (prob the Infantry Bow, getting a legendary one of those just makes me play wonderfully)

I can't stress enough too that it's good to get FAST at this game. I play speed-run right up until the timed door on the Forgotten Sepulcher (Promenade > Ramparts > Stilt > Sepulcher).

I found the Death Orb blueprint a little too rare to come by naturally and so I saved seeking it out until I had access to the Blueprint Extractor (it's in the Sepulcher, the fat dudes carry it)

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 02:23 (six months ago) link

i've yet to use a shield in this game. is that my error?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 03:23 (six months ago) link

i've used it twice

but i'm considering using one on my next game and then quickly switching away to another green item as soon as possible

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 03:23 (six months ago) link

which bosses have you beaten, forks? (is it ok if i call you that? i can go with ulysses if it's better)

i'm trying not to spoil myself too much but i'm on the verge of beating conjunctivitis (surely the game designers were hoping those last 7 words would be typed in exactly that way)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 03:25 (six months ago) link

forks is fine! I may not have mentioned this lately, but I switched accounts because i amassed a few thousand bookmarks and, rather than clean that up, i figured a fresh start was a good look. i'll answer to whatever.

I guess i've only beaten the one that gives me the ability to climb vines? I'm bad at this but i like it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 06:27 (six months ago) link

i went with a green build for the first time, a patented FGTI wolf trap/crusher combo, and i was indeed unstoppable...until i fucked up and replaced my legendary fire brands III-L with a lightning bolt VI at the last moment, just before the time keeper. i've never had much luck with lightning bolt, due to the delayed attack. but it was especially bad because i paired it with a crossbow, which also has a terrible delay. and even then, i almost beat the time keeper. i can see how the green build can work now, and i'm pumped to try it again.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 06:32 (six months ago) link

Lightning Bolt is popular with other players, I had a generally good trip up to the Hand (didn't win tho) using it paired with an Ice Bow, but it's just too slow for me to really love it.

Fire Brands is wonderful, Pyrotechnics also, I would never turn down a legendary version of either if I found one on a green run. My current game I haven't unlocked many blueprints because I want to keep the pool as narrow as possible. I'm toying with the idea of getting the Hayabusa Gauntlets in my pool bc I really really like them.

Shields: I only unlocked Spiked and Assault. I've seen playthroughs where the Spiked shield becomes wildly powerful once the green stat approaches 20, but I'm still figuring it out.

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 13:33 (six months ago) link

Also, I open cursed chests if my build is crappy but I only survive the curse 1 out of 3 times tbh

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 13:34 (six months ago) link

Ah, I didn't see that there was a dedicated thread for this game. I didn't even know "legendary weapons" was a thing! I don't think I've seen one yet

Dan I., Tuesday, 12 February 2019 14:11 (six months ago) link

You will always get one legendary from Concierge/Conjunctivius and Time Keeper, about 1 in 10 times from an elite (along with the guaranteed pendant), and randomly from enemies (if you're killing everything you'll get an average of one per run it seems)

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 14:38 (six months ago) link

Oh, those are the "colorless" ones I've seen occasionally!

Dan I., Tuesday, 12 February 2019 15:46 (six months ago) link

I love reading detailed strategies for games that I have no context for

(I do like the music for this game though)

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 16:06 (six months ago) link

the music speeds up and slows down massively based on the speed boost kill mechanic, which seems like it ought not to work but does

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 16:24 (six months ago) link

I have never noticed this, really?!

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 17:24 (six months ago) link

i rly enjoyed this fwiw.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 18:49 (six months ago) link

idk maybe i am just hallucinating the music thing because i am so amped whenever i get a combo

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 23:06 (six months ago) link

must admit i hadn’t noticed it either.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 08:03 (six months ago) link

that’s just proof of how well it worked

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 13:26 (six months ago) link

60FPS patch is live: https://dead-cells.com/patchnotes

but apparently a tiny number of ppl are reporting crashes when they try to load a saved file

game owns immensely btw

The Troops™ (jamescobo), Thursday, 14 February 2019 21:13 (six months ago) link

no chance of 60 fps on switch ?

||||||||, Thursday, 14 February 2019 21:20 (six months ago) link

they call out Switch here & confirm it supports 60fps in the replies

It's fiiiiinally time to Pimp your Run on consoles!
☑️60FPS rock solid
☑️New Custom Mode
☑️More & more balancing
☑️Lots of other surprises

Full patch note can be find here, if you're brave enough:https://t.co/cz6HDAz76o#NintendoSwitch #PS4 #xboxone pic.twitter.com/HfaGuvaK6A

— Motion Twin (@motiontwin) February 14, 2019

The Troops™ (jamescobo), Thursday, 14 February 2019 21:39 (six months ago) link

yusssss

||||||||, Thursday, 14 February 2019 21:46 (six months ago) link

this is extremely good to me

||||||||, Thursday, 14 February 2019 22:16 (six months ago) link

i finally beat Conjunctivitis last night, and then had a great run until dying just a little short of the final (i think?) boss

my big mistake was in "upgrading" my ranged weapon at the last second. somehow i was still rolling with Legendary III throwing knives, which were incredibly useful because they were causing and spreading bleeding, 3+ ammo so i could throw them pretty much as fast as i could tap the button. but then i came across a crossbow VII and thought it would be an improvement because the DPS was so much higher. in reality, i was suddenly saddles with a slow weapon (broadsword), a slow ranged (crossbow), and a pair of skill/traps that didn't compensate for my sudden slowness. within a few minutes i had died.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 February 2019 22:19 (six months ago) link

stoked to play 60 fps for my next run and check out the other new updates!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 February 2019 22:19 (six months ago) link

rock solid 60fps is just...

lots of other small tweaks too. amazing update

||||||||, Thursday, 14 February 2019 22:20 (six months ago) link

finally got the ball rolling and am starting to explore a bit more; had a hard time getting over the first hill.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 15 February 2019 00:28 (six months ago) link

still haven't installed the update but holy shit

https://dead-cells.com/patchnotes

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 February 2019 06:16 (six months ago) link

for example

Bosses no longer drop Legendary items, but 1 weapon and 1 active skill instead. Legendaries are now "world drop", so you may encounter them when killing mobs or on the new "legendary altars". The level generator has also been adjusted to ensure you find a "Legendary Altar" in most of your runs. You may also get legendaries as rewards of advanced challenges, like beating a boss without getting hit.

no big deal on its own but there are a lot of changes that are this significant. juuuust as i was getting the hang of it and about to beat it, it totally changes! still, i'm assuming most of the changes are for the better and it's really cool that they're paying attention and trying to improve it

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 February 2019 06:18 (six months ago) link

The rebalancing of 0 BC is so easified that I was able to breeze through on a purple build.

Ice Bow is nerfed but still awesome, generally it doesn’t feel as punishing to go red or purple on the damage in the later levels

If they did this much rebalancing I might try grenades one day

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 15 February 2019 07:25 (six months ago) link

Oh, and Efficiency is nerfed too, so...

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 15 February 2019 07:26 (six months ago) link

my save got wiped by the update but that's fine bc my 5th run on a new save i've already beaten the timekeeper. the game is much more about skill than unlocks.

Mordy, Saturday, 16 February 2019 15:41 (six months ago) link

I’m determined to beat it now

need to finally buy a pro controller I think

||||||||, Saturday, 16 February 2019 16:20 (six months ago) link

0 BC (the difficulty you start off on) is much, much easier now. All builds (red, purple, green) are now viable. The game feels less like "an extremely difficult game that you have to break to win" and more like "a highly balanced game where every option that is available has its benefits".

There are still so many blueprints I am missing! surprise!

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 16 February 2019 16:40 (six months ago) link

It's better to have fewer blueprints, innit?

A Grape Ape Agape (Leee), Saturday, 16 February 2019 18:20 (six months ago) link

New update lets you pick and choose. Extremely useful

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 16 February 2019 18:28 (six months ago) link

They cunningly lift the restrictions on legendary weapons, tho, so you can’t, say, limit auxiliary weapons to “death orb” only, play green, then expect that you’ll get a legendary death orb to match your green build. It’s very clever!

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 16 February 2019 18:29 (six months ago) link

Oh so the Spartan sandals I unlocked are no longer a curse!

A Grape Ape Agape (Leee), Saturday, 16 February 2019 18:34 (six months ago) link

I've bought the game, played for 2 hours today amd I still don't understand most od this thread. great fun so far though.

thomasintrouble, Sunday, 17 February 2019 19:27 (six months ago) link

finally managed to get to the second boss

got my first couple of colourless weapons too. erring towards brutality builds atm: had a good thing going earlier w the infantry bow (criticals at short range) and marksman's bow (criticals at long range)

||||||||, Sunday, 17 February 2019 22:38 (six months ago) link

Oh so the Spartan sandals I unlocked are no longer a curse!


I watched some late game run and the dude swore by these, used appropriately they're overpowered etc

gbx, Sunday, 17 February 2019 22:50 (six months ago) link

The "kill 30/60 enemies without taking damage" bonus is an awesome new development... encourages more careful play (over speedy play) and my game is getting better. In previous versions it was the move to try and pick up as many scrolls as possible and so the timed doors meant speed speed speed. Now there's no reason to power through.

I'm also noticing that gold is more valuable now, in terms of upgrading your gear... maybe it's just me but I'm finding myself having to make hard decisions.

I've been trying to win again at 1 BC with the update, trying purple and red builds (green builds are less viable now that legendaries are less common). Haven't been successful, haven't even made it to the Time Keeper. I love this game

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 18 February 2019 13:58 (six months ago) link

it is so moreish

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 14:49 (six months ago) link

just beat this for the first time - really excellent game

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 02:18 (six months ago) link

beat the hand! wish the switch would tell me more precisely than '20 hours or more' how long it took.

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 09:24 (six months ago) link

Okay! Beat this for the first time! lots more to do i think.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 February 2019 22:52 (six months ago) link

I can't even imagine beating this game

gbx, Friday, 22 February 2019 23:35 (six months ago) link

I couldn't either! It hits a tipping point and then starts to meet you halfway.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 February 2019 23:52 (six months ago) link

Actually beat the final boss the first time i got to him! Freeze blast and a powered-up oiled sword + autocrossbow and bear traps got the job done pretty easily.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 February 2019 23:53 (six months ago) link

I nearly beat him and was plentily powerful, had his health bar down to about a centimetre but then stood spamming the L2 button for about instead of L1 to use potion and walked hopelessly into spikes. 1 hour 37 of patient, fluent prep ruined by 2 seconds of co-ordination meltdown.

thomasintrouble, Sunday, 24 February 2019 21:11 (six months ago) link

i do something very similar in that situation (and also in dark souls). it is very frustrating.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 February 2019 21:15 (six months ago) link

1.2 update looks cool

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Sunday, 24 February 2019 21:15 (six months ago) link

skins !

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Sunday, 24 February 2019 21:18 (six months ago) link

New area and 2 new bosses (1 of whom I will definitely never see first-hand)! Neat!

Dan I., Monday, 25 February 2019 00:12 (six months ago) link

heh, found the "git gud" dark souls secret area.
for those who missed the game's difficulty curve, with one boss cell it gets MUCH harder

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 15:49 (five months ago) link

I beat the hotk

get it round ye

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Sunday, 3 March 2019 22:14 (five months ago) link

just heard that the company that made this is a cooperative. i'll buy it sooner than later

Nhex, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 03:55 (five months ago) link

so this seems...hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5EP7Hw993c

gbx, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 05:42 (five months ago) link

well fuck

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 16:05 (five months ago) link

just heard that the company that made this is a cooperative

Yeah! https://kotaku.com/game-studio-with-no-bosses-pays-everyone-the-same-1827872972

mick signals, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 16:08 (five months ago) link

That cursed sword run just makes me want to stop playing this game tbh

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 7 March 2019 04:10 (five months ago) link

Whew, a Tactics build changes the whole game! I started playing with two ice shards (or one fire and one ice) and two turrets--cheesing as much as I could by dragging a turret around with the homunculus head--and got the 2nd and 3rd boss cells in just a couple of hours.

Dan I., Saturday, 9 March 2019 22:46 (five months ago) link

Wowwwww that's amazing. I've beat 1st but not 2nd. Gotta get more into tactics builds I guess

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 10 March 2019 01:12 (five months ago) link


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