Horizon Zero Dawn

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I just beat this and want to talk about it without cluttering other general threads too much.

My earlier comments still stand: it has some roguh edges that are issues more attributable to games from previous generations (clipping, stiff motion capture, quests finish states transitioning abruptly), but the good outweighs the bad.

* Unabashedly progressive politics. Loads of secondary characters are people of color, and the main character isn't sexualized (you don't even have romances in the story, though at least one female character flirts hard with you), several key figures in the story are women (in addition to the female protagonist), plus climate change is mentioned in the narrative lore.
* Combat is silky and transparent.
* Load screens -- hardly any! It probably loads fewer assets than Witcher 3, but if I had to choose between fast load times and environmental details, I'd choose the former without fail.
* The game has two narrative settings, one in the past and one in the present. The one in the past is easily my favorite, as it deals with issues close or adjacent to things I care about outside of video games, with an impressive level of detail and thoughtfulness.
* The level of polish that I expect from a AAA game is pretty much there in the DLC.

Alexandric Ocasek-Carstez (Leee), Sunday, 18 November 2018 03:55 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Ok, I can wait for Josh to get around to playing this or for the sequel to come out on PS5.

From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Monday, 3 December 2018 06:55 (one year ago) link

Ha. This is actually one of the first games I bought for the PS4! (There was a great deal at Best Buy; $10 maybe?) But yeah, I can imagine it will be one of the last I'll play. It looks complicated!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 December 2018 14:27 (one year ago) link

It's not. It's a stripped down version of The Witcher 3 (and yet I like it loads more than W3). You can easily charge in with guns blazing if you don't want to take a stealthy approach.

From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Monday, 3 December 2018 17:17 (one year ago) link

I abandoned it early on because I was terrible at the combat (being bum-rushed by robosaurs while running away and panic-shooting a bow made me feel bad), then I went back and actually learned which buttons to press and had a great time.

Not a fan of beige post-apocalyptic environments like Fallout but obviously this is a different vibe, one of the prettiest games on PS4. Based on Colorado, Utah, New Mexico iirc. The main city is one of my favorite game designs ever, fantasy epic-ish while still feeling like an actual place people live and work.

But what made the game most memorable, like you said, is the main character and the diversity in the cast. How many AAA games star a woman (exiled from a matriarchy for reasons I no longer remember) with no choice to pick a dude version? Her voice acting is great—she also did the voice for Chloe in Life is Strange if that means anything to anybody.

orifex, Monday, 3 December 2018 19:53 (one year ago) link

exiled from a matriarchy for reasons I no longer remember

~mysterious circumstances of her birth~

From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Monday, 10 December 2018 23:32 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

started this tonight. Just saying

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 00:12 (three months ago) link

It's on my list! (lol)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 13:05 (three months ago) link

You keep playing with my heart!

Swoler Bear (Leee), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 17:07 (three months ago) link

I'll get there eventually! there are about three games I want to finish beforehand, assuming I totally abandon super Mario Odyssey.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 17:09 (three months ago) link

the 'simplified Witcher 3' comparison is apt, but it doesn't seem to make it any less enjoyable so far. I'm really enjoying hunting the machines - battle mechanics that are a lot more fun than Geralt just hacking away at enemies. feels more tactful.

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 23:37 (three months ago) link

Apparently the combat mechanics are pretty deep in that the assortment of weapons available let you use very different tactics depending on your preferred fighting styles. I never got to that point, though, and used basically the same tactics for everyone.

Swoler Bear (Leee), Thursday, 4 June 2020 00:07 (three months ago) link

That's kind of the approach I've had in all similar games. The games throw so many options and combos of equipment at you, but I just don't have the time/interest/OCD to investigate them all. Which often means missing out on all sorts of cool animations, but not much else, imo.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 June 2020 14:51 (three months ago) link

It's a beautiful game. One of the most pleasant to just run around and aimlessly explore.

ShariVari, Friday, 5 June 2020 14:58 (three months ago) link

I am enjoying this so far, still early days, but I have to say it is making me feel like returning to the Witcher and finishing off the quests in Skellige I left out

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Saturday, 6 June 2020 09:32 (three months ago) link

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