thread of tim rogers content (do not read if you hate tim rogers)

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the incomparable tim rogers has been a full-time contributor to kotaku since last year. I have loved tim rogers' writing, but it's possible that talking-fast-over-a-video is him at his finest. here's a thread for tim rogers content past present and future!

valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 17 May 2018 04:41 (five years ago) link

this week he did a video review of Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition which makes me…kinda want this bugfuck game…

valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 17 May 2018 04:41 (five years ago) link

mostly for my own future reference, here's a wayback machine link to action button dot net, which is currently missing with a message that says "relax, it's coming back", featuring his 18,000 word review of Final Fantasy XIII which I think is a high point.

valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 17 May 2018 04:48 (five years ago) link

I'm guessing you dont mean this guy!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 17 May 2018 10:37 (five years ago) link

I don’t.

valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 17 May 2018 12:48 (five years ago) link

no, that's him

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 17 May 2018 12:52 (five years ago) link

i fondly remember his long, digressive "reviews" of earthbound, chrono trigger and super mario bros 3 being really important to my own writing at a certain time in my life, and i'm sad to find out the website is down now so i can't spend 2 hours reading all three again!

challops trap house (Will M.), Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

i like his videos way more than his written stuff

ciderpress, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

the part of the hyrule warriors video starting around 13:30 where he tries to explain the appeal of musuo games is wonderful

ciderpress, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

I have a mixed opinion of Rogers as writer. He has some annoying tendencies for sure, but his perspective and his style feel so unique and inimitable. I like his absurdist wordplay. I like his overall design philosophy. I could do without about half of his loopy digressions on his travels and the same time, a large part of his appeal (for me) is the way his writing is always crammed-to-bursting with vivid and unnecessary detail. I'd be lying if I said his stuff didn't influence me, though if you asked me to define said influence, I'm not sure I could. Anyway, his God Hand review is pretty funny.

a film with a little more emotional balls (zchyrs), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

rereading the FFXII review last night, there was a lot of 2010 bro-type/edgelordy language and imagery that he's mercifully moved on from.

valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

I've met him irl a few times. he's relatively nice but does not stop talking

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link

xp yeah, I was reading that and "blade raped" made me cringe. Glad he has matured a bit.

a film with a little more emotional balls (zchyrs), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link

yeah i've met him at pax a couple times since my friend did the music for his game - he's basically the same person you see in his videos, it's not a put-on

ciderpress, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link

recently ive been listening to the Violence Island podcast:

it's a battle royal of random characters. interestingly the one they taped in October 2014 "Must See Killing Spree" begins with a fight between Dick Solomon and Dr. Huxtable himself, and Tim Rogers wastes no time saying that there are some deep, dark "grandmother terrifying" things about Cosby. he never comes out and says what he was accused of but it's clear he saw/heard the Hannibal act from the same month and he took that stuff seriously. just kind of interesting, i was listening to that and had to look up that it was 4 years ago. an entirely different world.

as for his personality, he doesn't seem all that different from music hipsters i've talked with. then again hipsters hate nothing more than their own kind.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 18 May 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

this is the best and worst of tim rogers, al in 5 minutes

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 18 May 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

imwo honks are the only non-violent way to communicate to other cars. someone needs to invent smart honks that figure out if you are trying to merge lanes or whatever and produces a tone the other car understands and can communicate to the driver.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 20 May 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Tim Rogers reported from E3. Videos are up from the booths of the major publishers. There's also this video.

valorous wokelord (silby), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 02:47 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

Good stuff from Tim recently: Judge Eyes demo

Eyebrow-raisey Shadow of the Tomb Raider preview

Affectionate DQXI review

faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 13 September 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link

Oops forgot to remove the m on that last one, here’s the embed for those who prefer

faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 13 September 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

let's see if tim can sell me on forza horizon 4, a candidate for my biannual Fancy Graphics Game Impulse Purchase

ciderpress, Thursday, 27 September 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link

I like his series about translating Final Fantasy VII, funny and informative.

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Thursday, 27 September 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link

Tim made me want Forza Horizon and it’s not a thing I should want.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 28 September 2018 00:54 (five years ago) link

Tim plays, screams at Mega Man 11

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 18:43 (five years ago) link

I can't tell if I prefer exasperated Tim or chill Tim

a film with a little more emotional balls (zchyrs), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

the two types of tim rogers content i love are his scripted review vids that all take poetic turns in the 2nd half (e.g. hyrule warriors, forza horizon 4) and his on-site vids from E3/conventions

ciderpress, Thursday, 11 October 2018 03:59 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

Tim and I have the same Game of the Year

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 00:14 (four years ago) link

Does not disappoint.

days of being riled (zchyrs), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 00:55 (four years ago) link

This also reminds me that I need to 1) go back and beat Celeste & 2) pick up Obra Dinn ASAP

days of being riled (zchyrs), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 00:57 (four years ago) link

those two are tied for my goty

ciderpress, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 01:03 (four years ago) link

i downloaded obra dinn the other day and i'm trying to con my partner into trying it out with me tonight!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 01:28 (four years ago) link

and rogers' #1 same as mine too. it was a good year for games!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 01:28 (four years ago) link

kinda sold on this guy

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 02:20 (four years ago) link

Obra Dinn is awesome btw, and i don't think i will ever come close to figuring out the fates of everyone

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:25 (four years ago) link

I’m going to sit on my hands on that one for a while owing to my Switch Only policy but I’ll stop waiting in a year or so. I loved Papers Please, what a game.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:26 (four years ago) link


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good list. hollow knight s/b #1 tho

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He even says there's nothing wrong with it and struggles to find a complaint (too dark to play on the NYC subway, lol), so at the least it should be higher!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 13:27 (four years ago) link

Sheesh it’s not like a scientific ranking.

I agree with him though: Hollow Knight is very good and Celeste is the best platforming video game and basically a perfect realization of what video games are good at

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:18 (four years ago) link

Hollow Knight is also a 2017 game

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:51 (four years ago) link

hollow knight is low b/c he played it last year jeez yall didn't listen to all 44 minutes did you xp

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:53 (four years ago) link

year of impact

PCs are powerpoint

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of course I paid attention to all 44 minutes, and I might do it over again!

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 18:21 (four years ago) link

it's possible that talking-fast-over-a-video is him at his finest.

This is a terrible thing to say about anyone, but having a look at the Shadow of the Tomb Raider video you might have it right.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 December 2018 13:55 (four years ago) link

The sheer amount of video editing he must do for these is pretty intense

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:43 (four years ago) link

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 December 2018 17:45 (four years ago) link

shooting zombies is the vegetarian version of murder

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 December 2018 18:12 (four years ago) link

his story about jonathan blow (#4, braid) is interesting and kind of sad

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 December 2018 21:12 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

ciderpress, Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

this is one franchise I just solidly dng

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I’ll leave

hrep (H.P), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 11:58 (one year ago) link

lol cmon. Is that a brag for serious gamers? I dunno. I've never played a Final Fantasy. I should try and get through his review of the remake sometime.

The Doom and Pacman and Tokimeki reviews hooked me. I've always been curious about the omglol Weird Japan! magazine kind of coverage of things we never used to get "over here" and thought that section of this video was well done.

Seems the Boku fan translation isn't out yet.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 12:08 (one year ago) link

when you’re a game reviewer/creator, saying you played a game that many times is like “bragging” you worked two weeks of 70 hour shifts and you don’t get paid overtime, imo

mh, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 13:04 (one year ago) link

he LOVES talking about how much he overworks himself!

bain4z, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

tim 'paid tha cost to be da boss' rogers

mh, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

I find his epic essays a little too much to take (literally; they're really long!) but I've got to admit they accomplish something novel, even necessary, in a way. Video games make a bazillion dollars a year, and young people in particular spend a bazillion hours a year just *watching* people play video games. Yet there's not a lot of long form discussion/dissection of video games anywhere, afaict, not really, which is remarkable, given their prominence in pop culture. So if he wants to spend six hours crafting a take on a game, making the case for why something so niche or cult or overlooked deserves your attention, I say bring it on.

I mean, it's wild, a game like Red Dead Redemption 2 can make almost a billion dollars in a weekend, and yet it's nowhere close to a household name property, imo, not in the same way, say, Star Wars or Marvel is. For sure people will pay attention to the Last of Us show, but many of them will have no idea about the game beyond that there even is a game, let alone a game whose merits someone like Rogers could intelligently, intricately discuss for five hours or whatever it was without so much as dipping into the plot, iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

One thing I hope we all can agree on is that he should*absolutely* keep writing hallucinatory ad copy for hbomberguy to read

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

I decided not to play all of those Contrail games.
I mean actually, I had actually played __all__ of them, years ago,
over the years, it was -- it gave me maybe the very first instance
of going to Wikipedia to look for a list of something, and, realizing
I had engaged with literally everyone on the list.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 29 September 2022 03:05 (one year ago) link

that was a very Tim moment

mh, Thursday, 29 September 2022 03:07 (one year ago) link

it's just one tim moment after another, i love it

Karl Malone, Thursday, 29 September 2022 03:09 (one year ago) link

when tim rogers does that low, gravelly voice, he's starting to sound uncomfortably like Alex Jones

Karl Malone, Thursday, 29 September 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

that naniwa express album the cool guy at work recommended to tim is pretty sick

diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Friday, 30 September 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

someone took the trouble of listing his favourite albums that he flashed on the screen over like 2 seconds in the Tokimeki video. Some great stuff:

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 30 September 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

ha! I literally did the same thing freeze-framing it myself. guess I should have just done a google search instead.

of course, I still haven't actually listened to the records I'm not already familiar with. one day!

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 30 September 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

oh I love that Starbow record, a scifi idol concept album by Hosono that was a huuuuge flop

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 30 September 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

amazed there is a clip of Starbow on TV, only seen photos before!
the concept was that they were genderless aliens so were dressed and sang somewhat androgynously, early 80s Japan were having none of it.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 30 September 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

yep, that's a favorite of mine as well.

the taeko ohnuki is also quite good, a highlight in a large catalog filled with cool records.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 30 September 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

Finished the Boku video (who else made it?)

He mentioned again his habit of listening to a new album *every* day. Mightn't be a stretch to many on ILM but I know I wouldn't get much out of trying that. It's probably a decent relief from his memory issues, of course detailed again as he goes home to Kansas for the first time in 30 years...

I never got the sense he was bragging about anything. I hope for him that he even is just pretty OK with himself. There's a lot of talking about himself of course. The thesis he rolls around to at around the 5 hour mark is all we can learn from well-imparted nostalgia. "I love everyone and you can too". I'd be more inclined to call this "nostalgia" simply "memories" or "experience", but I can see if he's drawing a distinction from how he can remember the exact date he last went to a certain food court.

The guy working on the game translation is still at it:

I'm currently taking some time off Twitter, but rest assured, I'm working on the thing y'all are excited for! 🦋
I do check my DMs still, so you can reach me there if you have questions or comments!

— Samuel 💻✨ Messner (@obskyr) September 27, 2022

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 01:13 (one year ago) link

(who else made it?)

i'm somewhere in the third hour! taking it in chunks. in typical fashion, by the time i was in the second hour i was trying (and failing) to download an emulated version of the first game on psx

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 01:17 (one year ago) link

i didn't know anything at all about boku no natsuyasumi. i want to play!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link

I'm trying to convince a Japanese friend who loves the games to try getting through the video.

Karl once the translation is out I will commit to help you get it running on a computer

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 01:21 (one year ago) link

:) thanks maffew! i have openemu (mac running 12.5) but downloaded a file from a sketchy rom place, and the file failed to open. but honestly i've never had any luck with psx emulation, or really anything that for disc-based systems.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

you can and you will

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link

oh hell yeah!

it's gonna be a boku no natsuyasumi winter

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link

Without even crossing the equator. They said it couldn't be done

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link

have you played one of them before?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 01:30 (one year ago) link

Nope. Had heard about the series from Ray Barnholt's enthusiasm for it over the years. It's sweet that he appears in the video.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

*shot of ray barnholt*


Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 01:42 (one year ago) link

add me to the list of folks who wanna try a fanlation. looks great!

i got it running on openemu, there's a gamefaqs guide that explains what the buttons do but you're on your own dialogue-wise. very attractive game tho

adam, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 10:35 (one year ago) link

The tricky thing with a lot of systems from this point is having BIOS files to get anything to run.

And then patching a rom will be another little pain.

To be clear, my Japanese is crap. I was over there two years. Can still read kana pretty quick, but most Chinese characters..fuhgeddaboutit

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 11:06 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

I was aware of this guy but never took a full dive until I watched his full Doom video earlier tonight. And it was kinda wild how the arc of my opinion of him while watching matched the arc of this thread that I read immediately afterwards.

circa1916, Saturday, 18 February 2023 06:18 (nine months ago) link

Our greatest critic of the medium at work today

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 18 February 2023 06:56 (nine months ago) link

Tim is definitely an arc

hrep (H.P), Saturday, 18 February 2023 08:53 (nine months ago) link

two months pass...

I drive a lot and have been listening to a ton of Insert Credit recently. For Tim, solely, I’m finding. Guy is sharp and funny. I’m still not sure where he belongs in the bullshitter to savant spectrum, but enjoyable either way.

Brandon S. is fucking insufferable though. “So my number one game of the year is Super Fart Tensei 3. I don’t know, it’s kinda like Sonic Mania. It’s the most Dreamcast game of the year. Like the jumping feels pretty good, the running feels OK. But yeah, it’s bad and super janky. Hehehe. But kind of interesting. I played it for 12 minutes. Hehe. Yeah, that’s my number one.”

I want to shove him down a toilet.

circa1916, Saturday, 22 April 2023 16:37 (seven months ago) link

you shoving him dowm a toilet is his game of the year, though

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 22 April 2023 16:41 (seven months ago) link

lol. At times you can practically hear the others biting their tongues with some of the dumb shit Tim and Brandon say. Best thing about that show.

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 22 April 2023 17:17 (seven months ago) link

xp lmao

It is true, the interplay between them all is what keeps me coming back. It would be too much if it was all Tim. But I do skip the episodes he’s not in.

Jaffe is a great host who knows how and when to interject. Frank is kind of a bore, but I like the museum/history stuff and his barely concealed contempt for most of what Brandon says is really funny. It’s a good sitcom.

circa1916, Saturday, 22 April 2023 17:45 (seven months ago) link

That all sounds so great, will listen

hrep (H.P), Sunday, 23 April 2023 01:35 (seven months ago) link

Sort of really love how Frank seems to barely have played any games mentioned. I have to be in the mood for Brandon but the recent Tim/Brandon only episode was really, really strong.

bain4z, Monday, 24 April 2023 08:31 (seven months ago) link

I listened to a bit of that end of the year ep, and yeah, Rogers is fast and funny and less affected than his long videos. The other guys, don't know anything about them or why they are in the orbit of this video game savant. The one guy talked about giving "Elden Ring" maybe an hour before giving up, which seems ... short.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 April 2023 11:09 (seven months ago) link

Well, Brandon is the co-founder of Insert Credit, which was Tim's first writing gig back in the early 00s. Those guys have been co-conspirators for decades. Not sure where Frank comes in, but I think the work he and Kelsey Lewin are doing with the Videogame History Foundation is super cool. I agree with y'all that Brandon's opinions can be baffling/obnoxious, there was a segment on this week's ep where he was trying to bash the Criterion Channel for being "pretentious;" Tim wasn't having it.

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:11 (seven months ago) link

oh dear god this new episode. oh god.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 28 April 2023 02:01 (seven months ago) link

Read that and thought there was a new Action Button review for a second. On Tim's current schedule we're not due another for around...five months or so?

"Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Friday, 28 April 2023 20:50 (seven months ago) link

just tim timming all over the latest podcast, in post. use caution if you like tim rogers.

i will probably finish it. it's just so ludicrous. Frank's audio is missing, and so he fills in the spaces in the conversation from his famously great memory.

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 29 April 2023 02:20 (seven months ago) link

Loved that episode and all the credit in the world to editor esper for making it even slightly comprehensible

Potemkin Mystery Dungeon (Will M.), Sunday, 30 April 2023 00:51 (seven months ago) link


This sounds amusing, looking forward to it.

circa1916, Sunday, 30 April 2023 01:24 (seven months ago) link

Brandon's upcoming game "Demonschool" has a demo on Steam if the urge strikes you. Looks pretty neat... a retro tactics game with some Persona flavor

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:18 (six months ago) link

I played a little of the demo, it's cool. The combat system is neat, the art & music is beautiful. Every character seems to talk like Brandon, though.

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Monday, 8 May 2023 15:23 (six months ago) link

five months pass...

I mean this without any disrespect, it’s great whatever way, but Frank’s podcast Video Game History Hour is fantastic to fall asleep to.

circa1916, Thursday, 2 November 2023 04:02 (four weeks ago) link

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