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how far are you? are you speedrunning anything yet?

or also, maybe, what is celeste? what is this game "celeste" that everyone's talking about?

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:32 (one year ago) link

I've done the first three stages, the first two B-sides, and all of a certain extra you can access from stage three. I was surprised by how emotional I got at the end of the second stage.

Iain Mew (if), Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:43 (one year ago) link

this game is sw8 but i am horrible at it. horrible at all twitchy games. i'm about as far in as ^^^ and already there have been a bunch of times where i can't seem to progress without stepping away from the current room for a few hours, only to come back, beat it, and have to do the same for the very next room, ad roominum.

not a bad thing necessarily, just makes me question if my thumbs are doing what i think i'm telling them to.

sleepingbag, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:47 (one year ago) link

that's about where i am, too, although i haven't even tried the b-sides yet. i'm not really a speedrunner type but i can see trying to set a good PR for the first couple chapters. they seem like they'd actually be possible to do in one run, without dying, with enough practice. and even if your PR is several minutes slower than some absurdly good 7-year-old, it's still satisfying in a very particular way to have the ability to run through a crazy series of obstacles without dying a single time.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:48 (one year ago) link

i've done the main story and full cleared chapter 1 and 1B, will get around to the rest at some point once i've shrunk my games-ive-bought-but-havent-played list

i legitimately think this is a 10/10 game and the best pure platformer i've ever played. everything people here were talking about when trying to sell me & others on Dark Souls applies here, about how the game patiently teaches you how to improve at it until by the end you're blasting through screens that would have looked impossible at the start. the chase/boss sequences are really intense but i found myself cruising through stretches of them purely on the instincts that the game had provided me through the design of the levels leading up to them. very cool.

ciderpress, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:50 (one year ago) link

also i'm playing on switch and i cannot commit to a consistent control scheme, for some things i have to use the analog stick and some things i have to use the d pad buttons. i think i'm just bad at games.

sleepingbag, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:52 (one year ago) link

i'm playing on ps4. i have been playing with the d-pad, but my thumb is seriously sore! i had to switch to analog last night because it was just getting so painful

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:55 (one year ago) link

i use stick for that reason. my right thumb gets sore after a bit from all the jumping/dashing though. can't really marathon this for that reason.

ciderpress, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:56 (one year ago) link

i'd recommend climbing the whole mountain before digging into the B-sides if you want a proper ascending difficulty curve. there were a couple screens in 1B that required more precision than anything in the regular levels

ciderpress, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:59 (one year ago) link

glad to hear that - it's why i was holding off. i didn't want to exhaust myself trying to beat the amped up versions of the normal levels before checking out rest of the game

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 19:10 (one year ago) link

really loving the mirror chapter, which i wasn't enjoying as much at first.

i am such a stan for this game right now

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 19:17 (one year ago) link

i beat the mirror chapter with only 338 deaths! beat THAT

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 20:41 (one year ago) link

I just beat Mirror Temple (chapter 5). for some reason I was compelled to grind out 2B yesterday. I died well over 1000 times!

This is a total 10/10 goty masterpiece, an apogee of the genre. It hooks right into your brain and wires you up to the analog stick, training you to be capable of precision you wern’t before. Who knows, after beating this game I might be able to do a quarter circle forward.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Sunday, 28 January 2018 20:53 (one year ago) link

tim rogers said this game had the best jump he had ever experienced. i don't know if it tops SMB3, but it's right up there. when you play you ARE celeste (wait...is the main character celeste? i'm not even sure)

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 20:55 (one year ago) link

Celeste is the mountain

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Sunday, 28 January 2018 20:58 (one year ago) link

but maybe the mountain is the character too, in a way

*bong rip*

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 20:59 (one year ago) link

you guys have completely sold me on this but i'm afraid it's not good for me to do this on the switch... maybe ps4 is the better bet?

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 29 January 2018 00:34 (one year ago) link

I've been playing on the Switch Pro controller, and it's taking me some effort to get used to it, but the game does seem to do a pretty good job at throwing you new challenges that at first seem impossible but, slowly but surely, become achievable. And then it starts all over again with the next screen. As I posted to the Switch thread, right now I can't imagine playing more than 20 minutes or so at a stretch, which means only 12949439 deaths or so.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 January 2018 00:41 (one year ago) link

got this last night for ps4 and yeah, super fun

also agree that it's a 20-30min max type deal for me

gbx, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:13 (one year ago) link

same on all points and ditto but the stress is pretty great. I suck at this.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:14 (one year ago) link

karl have u considered that maybe the mountain is us

*stares vacantly into middle distance*

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link

Haha, yeah right after posting that I progressed a bit more and there was a nice conversation about the mountain. Now I know that the mountain is Taum Sauk Mountain, in Missouri.

Karl Malone, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:28 (one year ago) link

i'm about to dive back in for the ...6th chapter? not sure what i'm up to. for some reason this is more of a 2-3 hours at a time kind of game for me. i'm playing dark souls 3, too, and it's interesting to go back and forth between the two styles of YOU DIED. the dark souls version can be more heartbreaking (and hard to bounce back from) when the tough part is a boss fight that takes a couple minutes to reach in the first place. it's nice in Celeste to just regenerate in the same spot and give it another shot a second or two later. so far i haven't hit any rooms that take longer than 5 minutes or so to get through, and a lot of them i'm able to just push my way through first time on some sort of crazy intuitive hellride like ciderpress mentioned above:

the chase/boss sequences are really intense but i found myself cruising through stretches of them purely on the instincts that the game had provided me through the design of the levels leading up to them. very cool.

ps sleepingbag i just noticed "ad roominum" in your post above, lol

Karl Malone, Monday, 29 January 2018 16:56 (one year ago) link

wow. just made it to the end! i finished in just a touch under 11 hours

there's a certain kind of fun to be had with the kinds of AAA games that have enormous sandbox areas and a million sidequests in addition to the main storyline. but i feel like the end state those kinds of games lead to is exhaustion. you tackle as many sidequests as you can until you've had enough, then quit or take on the final mission. after all that work and time and effort (and some fun, sometimes), you just kind of stick a fork in it.

NOT SO with celeste. jfc, the end game amps up the intensity (not necessarily the difficulty) so much it's unbelievable! there is a boss showdown that is just O_O.
there's all sorts of stuff to do and go back to. i haven't done any of the b-sides.

i can think of only two criticisms for this game.
1) it makes my thumb hurt
2) i wish it had a simple map showing which rooms you've visited and their entrances/exits

that's it. wow. *howls at the moon*

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:38 (one year ago) link

just read this short little interview here: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/01/feature_conquering_the_indie_mountain_with_celeste_creator_matt_makes_games

What does the future hold for Celeste?

Hopefully, a game that people remember and come back to fondly. I don't think we have any plans to create a sequel to Celeste - it really feels like we told the story we wanted to tell.

fuck yeah, that's what i'm talking about. make a perfect game, then drop the mic and go to the next one

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:51 (one year ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/TheoUnderStars/

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 06:34 (one year ago) link

Madeleine. Celeste. Coincidence in a game about time and memory, or are there any -or any more obvious - proust references?

thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 08:46 (one year ago) link

Wondering whether to buy this - is it fun, or is it too twitchy/tense to count as relaxing?

I've just been replaying 10,000,000 (not a platform game) but that's about as breakneck as I can handle a modern game before I stop finding it fun

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:26 (one year ago) link

As I observed, it's weirdly chill, almost zen-like, despite being so stressful. Context counts, I guess?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:33 (one year ago) link

It makes my hands sweat

It is really unbelievable how often you die on this game. And crazy that I'll pass a room first try, and then take twenty tries on my next run through it

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:48 (one year ago) link

the rooms are small enough and the reset times after death so quick that its not stressful really, and you feel satisfied after finally figuring out a room

jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:25 (one year ago) link

i was feeling really good about trying to 100% the game. i went back and got all the strawberries for chapters 1 and 2, completed their b-sides, recorded 0 death runthroughs (2:35 and 3:31 respectively)

but shiiiit the difficulty does ramp up a bit for chapter 3. i managed to find all the strawberries but i'm not sure i'll ever be able to do a 0 death run (which is important to me for some reason)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 01:25 (one year ago) link

Wow that's crazy

I got to the windy level and my internal rating for this game dropped from a 10/10 to an 8/10

Windy level can go fuck itself

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:47 (one year ago) link

I stopped even thinking about the strawberries on this level

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:48 (one year ago) link

windy level was my least favorite, but chapter 5 is better. and then everything to the end is just O_O (i thought)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:57 (one year ago) link

You guys are nuts. I hadn't really touched it since the day I bought it, but was playing tonight and there was one screen on chapter 1 - yes, near the very beginning - that was kicking my ass so hard I was convinced my controller was broken and was even googling known issues. Eventually I found someone on youtube, and yeah, I was literally never going to figure out this screen, but the dude's play did help me realize what I was doing wrong. For some reason either I didn't know or had forgotten that you can only dash once before landing on ground, which means you can only *jump* off things you're clinging to, not *dash* off them (right?). However, you can just jump into the void and *then* dash. Just once, though, unless you get one of those recharging things.

Anyway, I'm old and my thumbs hurt.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:58 (one year ago) link

"I'm old and my thumbs hurt" is what how this game is meant to make you feel

Anybody I've shown it to under 30 is like "lol you are old, we don't know how to play this kind of shit"

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:35 (one year ago) link

i finally figured out how to stream on twitch from my ps4 (i had weird microphone issues), so i'm going to work on the chapter 3 b-side in a sec. or start to figure out how to do it quickly without dying

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:35 (one year ago) link

in case anyone is incredibly bored tonight. i'm all by myself tonight and my dog has already been taken out, so this is going to be a wednesday night epiiiic stream

https://www.twitch.tv/weinventyou

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:43 (one year ago) link

Watched for a little while. Those levels look pretty hard!

DJI, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:58 (one year ago) link

they are intensely hard! room 4 of ch. 3 b-side now

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:58 (one year ago) link

ok WHOA, say what you want about the windy level, but the crystal heart for it is the beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeest of all time. i have never thought so highly of a collectible.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 07:40 (one year ago) link

only like four strawberries in but this is very nice

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 08:13 (one year ago) link

Karl, I watched yr videos (I've never watched Twitch before!), that looks intense

I think I may regrettably have to accept that, if I struggled to even beat the first boss on Shovel Knight, Celeste may not be the Game For Me

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:04 (one year ago) link

Yeah Karl has cured me of my thirst for this :/

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:16 (one year ago) link

Oh shit

I saw that crystal heart (vanilla run through) but I didn't know how to jump up to it and gave up

Whoops?

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:45 (one year ago) link

fwiw the vanilla levels are not nearly as hard as the ones karl is playing there

ciderpress, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:57 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah, I was mainly working on the chapter 3 b-side and that was intense. It took about 500-600 deaths to get through!

Andrew I feel bad if I ruined it for you! ciderpress is right about the vanilla game not being nearly so hard. The first chapter in particular is a gem of level design, gradually teaching the skills of the game to newcomers. If I have time later tonight I’d be happy to do a leisurely chapter one strawberry hunt! I’ll let y’all know here if I do.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:15 (one year ago) link

fgti

Let’s just say that to get to it you have to think about the game’s influences. I couldn’t believe it when it actually worked!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:17 (one year ago) link

If you can get locked in on the cycles it’s more fun.

devops mom (silby), Friday, 13 July 2018 06:00 (one year ago) link

five months pass...
three weeks pass...

zs, you seen robot assisted runs? this one is particularly nuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEcv7BD1q9o

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 18 January 2019 16:54 (ten months ago) link

three months pass...

I spent last week in bed recovering from surgery and playing Celeste.

Went from loving the story but rushing through the levels and not caring at all about strawberries to beating the game and suddenly realizing that I really really wanted to go back and get everything I missed the first time through. I can't remember the last time I felt the need to 100% a game but I'm pretty sure it was like, the first Donkey Kong Country?

Anyway, this is a great game. Looking forward to driving myself insane trying to unlock the Core level.

cwkiii, Sunday, 28 April 2019 18:28 (seven months ago) link

finally went on sale on switch btw

jfc the b sides

||||||||, Thursday, 9 May 2019 20:06 (seven months ago) link

this game owns so hard

||||||||, Thursday, 9 May 2019 20:42 (seven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

run one done. 2016 deaths yowch. swear a large percentage of those were on summit flag 10

||||||||, Sunday, 26 May 2019 17:36 (six months ago) link

I don’t know what happened with this game, but first time round I found it WAY too difficult and gave up on the fourth or fifth screen. Six months later, after a bunch of twitch-learning playing Super Mario 3 on the Switch NES emulator, I’m magically able to play and even enjoy it. It’s a great game!!! Obviously.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:01 (six months ago) link

Although I have to be careful to play in 30 min bursts or my hand will literally die

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:03 (six months ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx5JGv0HVKp/

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:05 (six months ago) link

levels meaning screens - apparently that makes it about as long as the summit chapter

ciderpress, Monday, 3 June 2019 03:38 (six months ago) link

ahhhhhh. well that's a little confusing!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 3 June 2019 15:24 (six months ago) link

can't wait! i've been meaning for an excuse to play through the regular levels again anyway. i'll probably do it again to prepare for the DLC (which is apparently harder than any of the normal levels, but perhaps not to the level of a b-side? not sure)

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Monday, 3 June 2019 16:25 (six months ago) link

chapter 6 b side

fsck me

||||||||, Thursday, 13 June 2019 17:51 (six months ago) link

Niiiiice

That shit is hard. I think I finished b-sides 1-5? Maybe 6?

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:04 (six months ago) link

I’ve done b sides 1-5. I’m halfway through 6. it is brutal. I swear I dropped 200 lives on one screen alone

||||||||, Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:05 (six months ago) link

DONE

905 deaths

||||||||, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:27 (five months ago) link

can we get a report on the health of your left thumb? i think that b-side is where i had to take a break (now several months long) to heal

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 June 2019 15:39 (five months ago) link

summit b side done. thumb in tatters

||||||||, Monday, 17 June 2019 19:37 (five months ago) link

live shot of ||||||||'s thumb:

https://i.imgur.com/5Qf3he2.jpg

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Monday, 17 June 2019 19:41 (five months ago) link

... and core run through done. just the core b side to do now before...

c sides

||||||||, Monday, 17 June 2019 21:15 (five months ago) link

there’s A LOT of content in this game. and while it is def a 10/10 there are some mechanics I just don’t get on with (controlling the cloud jumps and the beast-head tadpole thing that flys at you, come to mind... generally all of the things that fly at you are pretty annoying)

||||||||, Monday, 17 June 2019 21:16 (five months ago) link

core B side DONE

C sides unlocked

||||||||, Sunday, 30 June 2019 19:31 (five months ago) link

Nice, just yesterday I picked this up for the first time in a while and started working on summit B. Game’s good.

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Sunday, 30 June 2019 19:36 (five months ago) link

It took me a long time to get practised enough to enjoy playing this game, but it’s SO good

It reminds me of Zelda BOTW in the sense that, I feel like every other game I play like this is going to feel lacking by comparison from now on

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 30 June 2019 20:55 (five months ago) link

bagged my first C side. not sure if I'll go for them all

think I'll try for the first golden strawberry and the dashless golden then maybe call it a day.... maybe

||||||||, Sunday, 30 June 2019 21:49 (five months ago) link

fffffffff dashless strawberry dome. how hard could it be I thought

brutal

||||||||, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 20:13 (five months ago) link

I will never play this game (too hard) but the thread title delights me every time I see it.

orifex, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 21:15 (five months ago) link

the game has accessibility options that let you adjust the difficulty in a pretty granular way! I believe you can turn down the speed, add extra dashes, and turn off spike damage. Play this cool game!

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 21:30 (five months ago) link

the thread title delights me every time I see it.

:) i was hoping someone else would like that

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 21:34 (five months ago) link

I don't think this game is all that hard? The main story is quite doable. The post-summit stuff is much harder but that's your treat for completing the game.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 22:04 (five months ago) link

yeah, agreed. it never felt unfairly difficult to me. well, not until one part towards the end of the summit b-side, I guess.

never made it past the first screen of the c-side resort. I think I doubled my death count on that one screen alone!

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 17:41 (five months ago) link

I really liked this game, but gave up on it pretty early. Maybe I'll go back to it some day.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 July 2019 14:40 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

zs, you seen robot assisted runs? this one is particularly nuts

watched this yesterday. Some of the middle section parts were truly insane. I love the bot's approach to the black blobs in the hotel.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 19 July 2019 18:38 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

beat 7B a week or two ago, it was A Lot.

preview track from the OST for the upcoming Chapter 9 is up

https://radicaldreamland.bandcamp.com/album/celeste-farewell-original-soundtrack

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 5 August 2019 22:40 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

chapter 9 out now !

prorogue mahone (||||||||), Monday, 9 September 2019 17:17 (three months ago) link

Celeste wasn't very interesting when I tested it. The collectable apples were annoying. The dash jump wasn't special. The story was as light as any flash game. It looked like any flash game.

brain dead operatus (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 23 September 2019 13:12 (two months ago) link

Watched the speedrun and the game never got any better.

brain dead operatus (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 23 September 2019 13:14 (two months ago) link

So you’re hinting that you didn’t enjoy the game

Sally Jessy (Karl Malone), Monday, 23 September 2019 14:09 (two months ago) link

I never understood how it got so much hype

brain dead operatus (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 23 September 2019 15:05 (two months ago) link

Sorry I guess. It’s probably my favorite game of all time, if such a thing is meaningful.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 23 September 2019 15:12 (two months ago) link

As someone who gave up/set it aside pretty early on, but still appreciated what I played, I think it's because it's a super-challenging platformer that isn't based on lucky bullshit, just perseverance. But I think more importantly, those rapid respawns are key. If it took just another few milliseconds to try again, people would have been pissed. (fwiw despite Hollow Knight being a personal all-time fave, I never pursued the harder post-game levels, because like Celeste I ultimately find that stuff more frustrating than fun, even when the game looks gorgeous.)

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 September 2019 15:14 (two months ago) link

It's crazy how much work the developers must have done to create content that's only going to be seen (outside of cheats and youtube videos) by very few ultra-skilled players. I beat the game, but almost all of the B-sides, all of the C-sides and all of Chapter 9 are just impossible for me--and for a lot of other people like me, I think. I'm not complaining, though! It's just amazing that they've put so much effort into the margins

Dan I., Monday, 23 September 2019 15:58 (two months ago) link

you can turn on assist mode if you want to see it!

7B was a journey

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 23 September 2019 16:07 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

I just started playing the game and finished the first two chapters... Can anyone tell me, without spoiling too much, does anything actually happen if you collect all the strawberries? Or all the crystal hearts? Or are they there just so you can brag about having found all of them?

Tuomas, Friday, 1 November 2019 14:27 (one month ago) link

The game explicitly tells you that you don’t have to collect the strawberries.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 November 2019 15:12 (one month ago) link

Yeah, I know, but I was wondering whether collecting them unlocks some extra content or something.

Tuomas, Friday, 1 November 2019 15:31 (one month ago) link

strawberries are completely optional. there's a bonus level that needs some hearts to unlock but you don't need all of them iirc.

ciderpress, Friday, 1 November 2019 15:33 (one month ago) link

Thanks!

Tuomas, Friday, 1 November 2019 15:36 (one month ago) link


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