Super Mario Odyssey

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ciderpress, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:12 (two years ago) link

picture's worth 1000 subtitles

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 27 October 2017 18:14 (two years ago) link

this game is good

proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 October 2017 18:14 (two years ago) link

there, i said it

proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 October 2017 18:15 (two years ago) link

Taste's very strange!

El Tomboto, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:16 (two years ago) link

hahawehahahahahahahah

frogbs, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:17 (two years ago) link

Supertato Odyssey

proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 October 2017 18:19 (two years ago) link

i'm a few hours into this now and it's predictably fun though certainly not a reinvention of mario like what they did with zelda

people talked up how this would be the long-awaited proper follow-up to mario 64 or whatever but really it pulls equally from all the past 3d marios - it's got some of the freeform exploration of 64, some of the setpieces and miniaturized challenge areas of galaxy, and some of the gimmickry and mission-style objectives of sunshine

ciderpress, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:20 (two years ago) link

also i love the music in the wooded kingdom, i have no idea how they got from 'woods level' to that but it owns

ciderpress, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:22 (two years ago) link

one of the things that makes 64 the best imo is its physics, how its possible to move super fast and violently through it, which is why its a speedruners fav

lag∞n, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:25 (two years ago) link

cider otm, but the hat flicking and "capture" is so enjoyable and quite new? (i did not play sunshine)

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 27 October 2017 18:27 (two years ago) link

yeah its definitely more enjoyable than the sunshine water gun but it reminds me of it all the same

ciderpress, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:29 (two years ago) link

xp this one's definitely closer to galaxy in physics than 64, i've never seen sm64's physics "feel" replicated in any other game, by nintendo or not

ciderpress, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:31 (two years ago) link

they shd try to

lag∞n, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:32 (two years ago) link

i def remember running out of water guns in a childhood water fight and saying to a would be participant "hey, why don't you just get a hat and flick it at people maybe?" and then the would be participant kicking my ass

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 27 October 2017 18:33 (two years ago) link

it's kind of refreshing how little they care about making the moons all big deals to get like the shines/stars in sunshine/galaxy. some of them require navigating a tricky platforming room or beating a boss like in those games but others you can just wander into a barely hidden room or behind a corner or whatever

ciderpress, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:39 (two years ago) link

yeah, and they don't break the flow

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 27 October 2017 18:44 (two years ago) link

this is better than mario 64. i don't understand how anyone could play this and then pine for mario 64.

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 27 October 2017 18:44 (two years ago) link

for sure, its just not as much in the lineage of it as people were claiming

ciderpress, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:54 (two years ago) link

lol i have reached a place that was...not shown in any of the previews and is an extremely weird sight for a mario game

ciderpress, Friday, 27 October 2017 21:38 (two years ago) link

an extremely weird sight for a mario game

trying to think what that might be, all i can come up with is a sisters of mercy concert

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 27 October 2017 21:43 (two years ago) link

i want this game (and therefore a switch) but i also want several hundred bucks and some free time, honestly not sure which way to go

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 27 October 2017 21:45 (two years ago) link

stupidly restarted zelda two nights ago and just really connected, guess it's mario time anyway!

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 27 October 2017 21:47 (two years ago) link

it is healthy to switch between games on this magic device

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 27 October 2017 22:04 (two years ago) link

Bullet Bill controls had me for a minute there

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 28 October 2017 16:47 (two years ago) link

This game is good, I feel like I'm breezing through it though! But there'll be lots to go back to even after I beat Bowser, if I want to.

.oO (silby), Saturday, 28 October 2017 17:32 (two years ago) link

there's a vast amount of stuff that isn't even available until you do 'beat the game'

ciderpress, Saturday, 28 October 2017 17:41 (two years ago) link

the world liberals want

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNJ_CcUUEAAXCT9.jpg

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:03 (two years ago) link

hell yeah

proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:03 (two years ago) link

mario really fills out that wedding dress huh

proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:04 (two years ago) link

'predictably fun' feels otm

one of the things that makes 64 the best imo is its physics, how its possible to move super fast and violently through it, which is why its a speedruners fav

― lag∞n, Friday, October 27, 2017 6:25 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cider otm, but the hat flicking and "capture" is so enjoyable and quite new? (i did not play sunshine)

― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, October 27, 2017 6:27 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whenever you possess something the sudden downgrade in precision of control, the different mode in which these entities exist in the world and different depth of fidelity, is jarring. not necessarily un-fun. but i feel like there's two games at odds with one another, one in which the appeal is that you have this avatar of subtle control and weight and another in which the appeal is MOOO HAAA HAA IM A FUCKEN TYRANNOSAUR

and i think these actively work against each other, at least for me, i am not taken by the novelty of having to switch forms when it means that switching forms is a sudden shift of gears to jankiness. i mean, it's not like it's a bad game. it's like, at least 50% better than shiny entertainment's messiah

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Sunday, 29 October 2017 03:45 (two years ago) link

definitely twice as good as omikron: the nomad soul

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Sunday, 29 October 2017 03:46 (two years ago) link

it sounds like you may need to check out the Action Guide. Have you seen the Action Guide? we highly recommend the Action Guide.

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 29 October 2017 03:51 (two years ago) link

capture controls don't bug me too much. the captured seem to have a single desirable ability. the shades guy felt like a joke about this. capturing makes the a mario-kirby hybrid in the end, which is cool. hey wtf are these bunnies, though?

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 29 October 2017 03:57 (two years ago) link

i found a few of the captures fun esp the woodpeckers in the bowser level but agree that most of them are a big downgrade from just being mario

ciderpress, Sunday, 29 October 2017 04:00 (two years ago) link

but you are still mario. you are just possessing each of these creatures and using its one ability to do something mario cannot do on his own.

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 29 October 2017 04:03 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/qPkqkhH.jpg/

Mario picked up a new habit after his trip to New Donk City

carpet_kaiser, Sunday, 29 October 2017 04:04 (two years ago) link

Trading Grateful Dead tapes?

Moodles, Sunday, 29 October 2017 04:55 (two years ago) link

i have 369 moons after 2 days. my switch profile page refuses to tell me how many hours i've played, maybe it's trying to protect me

ciderpress, Sunday, 29 October 2017 05:01 (two years ago) link

me i been froggin

alomar lines, Sunday, 29 October 2017 05:21 (two years ago) link

guys i'm currently exploring bowser's 'inner walls'

proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 29 October 2017 10:58 (two years ago) link

I bought swinch a cpl weeks ago

coming off of zelda, this game is... ok

sleepingbag, Monday, 30 October 2017 08:06 (two years ago) link

like overall it's pretty good, but a) they put a bunch of unfun, typical platformer shit in here, and b) it's v goofy and clearly designed for very little kids and I'm like 30 playing this shit

sleepingbag, Monday, 30 October 2017 08:11 (two years ago) link

zelda otoh was one of the best games I've ever played

sleepingbag, Monday, 30 October 2017 08:13 (two years ago) link

this is better than mario 64. i don't understand how anyone could play this and then pine for mario 64.

― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, October 27, 2017 12:44 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yikes no

sleepingbag, Monday, 30 October 2017 08:16 (two years ago) link

it's v goofy and clearly designed for very little kids and I'm like 30 playing this shit

yeah yr right this would be so much better if mario was a bald space marine slogging through a world painted entirely in shades of brown

proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 30 October 2017 08:27 (two years ago) link

it's v goofy and clearly designed for very little kids and I'm like 30 playing this shit

yeah yr right this would be so much better if mario was a bald space marine slogging through a world painted entirely in shades of brown

proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 30 October 2017 08:27 (two years ago) link

Of course it's better than Mario 64.

Mario has never controlled better. No third person character has ever controlled better.

What does "unfun, typical platformer shit" mean? xp

abcfsk, Monday, 30 October 2017 08:27 (two years ago) link

It's not a revolution like BOTW, but it expands the ways in which a 3D Mario can operate, without losing the platforming part. Most 3d 'platformers' originating in the 32 bit era are not about platforming but about mucking about looking for shit. This is still about platforming, but allows for a looser structure, more exploration and more freeform platforming than before. Despite the more open nature of the worlds the game has never felt tighter or better paced.

abcfsk, Monday, 30 October 2017 08:34 (two years ago) link

yeah yr right this would be so much better if mario was a bald space marine slogging through a world painted entirely in shades of brown

― proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Monday, October 30, 2017 2:27 AM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup this is the only other thing it could be and I'm mad that it's not!

What does "unfun, typical platformer shit" mean? xp

― abcfsk, Monday, October 30, 2017 2:27 AM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's a lot of 'navigate this one square wide stretch without making a single misstep or you die' on the level I'm on (sweets level)

sleepingbag, Monday, 30 October 2017 08:43 (two years ago) link

xp i would, but i only feel comfortable doing that when no one is home, and lately, my partner is always home :)

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 April 2020 16:38 (three days ago) link

but thank you, that's very nice. i haven't really streamed a game for several months now!

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 April 2020 16:38 (three days ago) link

I think my main problem with Odyssey is that it rarely gives me the illusion that I'm really good at it.

lukas, Friday, 3 April 2020 16:49 (three days ago) link

xp frogbs I admit that I’m a 2d fan, in general, over 3d platforms. For me, the core of Mario perfection is about control, the platonic ideal of the Jump, and in general just feeling like I’m making Mario do the exact thing that I want him to do.

I get more of those good control feelings with 2d Mario. It’s still very good with 3D, but I find myself “missing” a lot more

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 April 2020 16:52 (three days ago) link

yes exactly

lukas, Friday, 3 April 2020 16:54 (three days ago) link

I know what you mean but I think the recent 2-D games replicate that quite well & the level design is more innovative. plus, y'know, multiplayer

the built-in levels for Super Mario Maker 2 eclipse the originals, imo. would be cool if they just did like, a new set of SMB 3 levels using the new designers

frogbs, Friday, 3 April 2020 16:58 (three days ago) link

a new set of SMB 3 levels using the new designers

the best parts of new super mario bros feel like that, it's so good!

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 April 2020 17:12 (three days ago) link

not gonna accuse y'all of boomerism but come on the modern games are better than the old ones

― frogbs, Friday, April 3, 2020 9:32 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm. SMM2 encapsulates all of these old games in one spot and adds creativity and online fun. it is more phenomenon than game, probably the best 2D mario to ever exist.

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 3 April 2020 18:13 (three days ago) link

I really want the eventual next 2D Mario to take lessons from the masocore platformers through Celeste and move towards short, linked-together levels, with quick deaths and restarts

silby, Friday, 3 April 2020 18:15 (three days ago) link

Might be cool if quick death and restart were a powerup

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 3 April 2020 18:20 (three days ago) link

hit a brick, get a snow cap, celeste rules for 1 minute

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 3 April 2020 18:20 (three days ago) link

the mario way feels better for my maladaptive perfectionism

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 3 April 2020 18:22 (three days ago) link

i like 3d mario if u think about it thats one more d

lag∞n, Friday, 3 April 2020 18:23 (three days ago) link

1. smb3: i watched The Wizard in the theater.
2. smb2: Maybe the most goth of all the mario bros games.
3. smb: "Minus level" is extremely a part of my interior lizard brain.
4. smw: Very good game but verging toward overly polished / obligatory. Creativity is starting to wane.
5. smw2: I'm sure I must have played this as a kid but I barely remember it.
6. Mario Bros the arcade game is pretty fun even now.
7. lost levels: played maybe half of these a kid? Maybe less?
8. 64: barely played it because i stopped playing video games at this point. the 3d looked bad even then but i guess it's charming now.
9. odyssey: watched someone play some of this once. not bad
10. new super mario bros: is this the one where you can knock each other into pits? horrible multiplayer experience
others: haven't played 'em

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 3 April 2020 18:29 (three days ago) link

no mention of Sunshine here, which was pretty flawed and buggy but also had a lot of cool features

lost levels is pretty insane, I remember staying up until 5 AM with a friend to try to beat it. even with the 1-1 koopa shell/255 life trick we struggled to make it past World 6. it's just so touchy. sort of ahead of its time I guess, considering all the popular Mario Maker levels

frogbs, Friday, 3 April 2020 18:46 (three days ago) link

64 is the best imho surprised u all arent rating

lag∞n, Friday, 3 April 2020 18:54 (three days ago) link

64 is the ferrari of tha series

lag∞n, Friday, 3 April 2020 18:55 (three days ago) link

my ideal mario wld have the speed/movement of 64 w the graphics and creativity of the newer 3d ones

lag∞n, Friday, 3 April 2020 18:57 (three days ago) link

they shd make a sequel

lag∞n, Friday, 3 April 2020 18:58 (three days ago) link

a "super mario 65" if you will

silby, Friday, 3 April 2020 18:58 (three days ago) link

there u go

lag∞n, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:01 (three days ago) link

odessey not having running was the worst part of it for me i kept instinctively trying to find the button lol

lag∞n, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:01 (three days ago) link

my other complaint is that it doesnt have a sledding race, that bounding shit was wack

lag∞n, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:05 (three days ago) link

riding the stone lion taxi was cool cause it was pretty difficult

lag∞n, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:06 (three days ago) link

I def factor in the context when rating games like this, one could argue that SMM2 is superior in level design to SMB3 but I’m sorry there is NO comparison... SMB3 was a marvellously innovative achievement, technologically perfect, and was an adventure that spanned many worlds and required a great deal of work to complete. SMM2? You’re building a castle, it feels like you’re on a factory line.

Same goes for Mario 64– it’s gameplay is so incredible, the level design so innovative, it redefined 3D gaming afaik

1 SMB3
2 Mario 64
3 Super Mario World
4 Galaxy 2
5 Galaxy
6 Yoshi’s Island
7 Odyssey
8 SMB
9 SMB 2
10 SMM2
11 Land
12 Land 2

Those are all the ones I’ve played and I enjoy/loved them all. Never played Sunshine, I hear 3D World is amazing. I played the new 2.5D ones and found the controls consistently sluggish. Surprised that people don’t rate the Galaxies higher, surprised that people don’t stan for Land as they should

we have no stan but to choice (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 3 April 2020 19:09 (three days ago) link

a race themed mario wld be sick where like the mario cart crew are doing a season but then they have to have an adventure........idk just spitballin

lag∞n, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:12 (three days ago) link

my ideal mario wld have the speed/movement of 64 w the graphics and creativity of the newer 3d ones

3D world is kinda like that, its got the long jumps, wall kicks, backflips and all that

frogbs, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:14 (three days ago) link

yeah i havent played that one or galaxy 2 hope they come 2 switch

lag∞n, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:18 (three days ago) link

a thorough remastering of 64 w new levels also shd happen

lag∞n, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:19 (three days ago) link

eh it's not really Nintendo's thing to add new levels to old games, as awesome as that would be

frogbs, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:22 (three days ago) link

they did it for the ds port

lag∞n, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:23 (three days ago) link

you can't judge SMM2 on the story mode alone. It would be lame to choose Big Ones as your favorite Aerosmith album. But what if the release of Big Ones included all of the tracks, time sliced, allowing you to make your own Even Bigger Ones.

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 3 April 2020 19:38 (three days ago) link

its nuts they haven't done a bunch of DLC for that game yet

frogbs, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:01 (three days ago) link

I'm interested in playing the Galaxy ones but I tried them on the Wii U and they were too hard for me. Kept running out of lives and having to start worlds over until I gave up.

DJI, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:03 (three days ago) link

just

re slog: i felt exactly the same way on the first playthrough, and to some extent the second, but every time i play it i love it more. now i’m somewhere in the teens and i completely lose myself in it. easily the highest replay value of any game i’ve played in years.

re moon currency: utterly otm. it doesn’t feel much like an achievement when you kick a rock MOON, headbutt a seed MOON, walk past a doorway MOON, walk two feet for no reason MOON, blink MOON, and then the difference between 673 moons and 687 moons is essentially negligible.

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 3 April 2020 22:29 (three days ago) link

I may be overrating 64 tbh

idk, I just looked through the list of levels and had some fond memories but also memories of frustration. Which is the hardest Mario, btw? My vote is easily SMW2, the normal game was hard enough, getting 100 on every level to unlock the bonus stages was very difficult, and then, the bonus stages themselves? HA impossible

we have no stan but to choice (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 3 April 2020 22:53 (three days ago) link

The hardest levels I can think of on a Mario game (Lost Levels aside) are the airship in SMB3 world 8 (I'd always P-wing it), Tubular in SMW, the Poochie bonus stage in SMW2, and I have a vague memory of something in Galaxy involving Luigi and a huge airship as being insanely difficult, Galaxy was hard, I remember

we have no stan but to choice (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 3 April 2020 22:55 (three days ago) link

Sunshine space levels def up there

Nhex, Friday, 3 April 2020 22:56 (three days ago) link

i dont remember going to space

lag∞n, Friday, 3 April 2020 23:10 (three days ago) link

the old 2d marios are definitely the hardest. 64 probably the hardest 3d one in the normal levels, the postgame challenge levels in the newer ones are harder though

ciderpress, Friday, 3 April 2020 23:22 (three days ago) link

i meant.. subspace

Nhex, Saturday, 4 April 2020 00:42 (two days ago) link

i mightve not finished it

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 April 2020 00:45 (two days ago) link

too much cleaning its like when they made that movie abt inventing a mop

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 April 2020 00:46 (two days ago) link

it was actually an origin story for the guy that looked at a butterfly and saw a horse

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 4 April 2020 01:08 (two days ago) link

i love that movie da butterfly effect starring ashton kutcher sick shit but it also makes you think

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 April 2020 01:38 (two days ago) link

a "super mario 65" if you will

― silby

the internet of course is already on this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-to1nxOc8M

it's no "super mario 63"

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 4 April 2020 02:14 (two days ago) link

sunshine = mario 65
galaxy = mario 66
galaxy 2 = mario 67
odyssey = mario 68

we're all on the edge of our seats for the next 3d one

ciderpress, Saturday, 4 April 2020 03:02 (two days ago) link

3d land = 67.5
3d world = 67.75

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 4 April 2020 03:10 (two days ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM_-zvS93LI

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 April 2020 18:05 (two days ago) link

I may be overrating 64 tbh

no way, the amount of effort they went into designing sheer joy of moving and inhabiting environments in 64 is still stunning

sunshine = mario 65
galaxy = mario 66
galaxy 2 = mario 67
odyssey = mario 68

we're all on the edge of our seats for the next 3d one

idk I'm lying on my side, makes extended gameplay easier

donald failson (sic), Saturday, 4 April 2020 21:26 (two days ago) link


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