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Will be revealed at 7am PT/10am ET through Nintendo's official channels.

It's only a preview trailer. Substanstive reveal expected next week.

abcfsk, Thursday, 20 October 2016 04:38 (seven years ago) link

Remind me what this thing is again?

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 October 2016 05:54 (seven years ago) link

Nobody knows yet.

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 20 October 2016 05:55 (seven years ago) link

Hybdrid console/handheld. Good news is you don't have to choose between what Ninty platform you get, all games come to one place.

Bad news.. well, maybe it looks like a a Frankenstein monster. Expect to see the concept today and software lineup next week.

abcfsk, Thursday, 20 October 2016 06:14 (seven years ago) link

Gettin' ready for thread title change!

Nhex, Thursday, 20 October 2016 09:24 (seven years ago) link

Seriously though the one positive thing (maybe) coming out from this is that it seems like it's been known about, in development for long enough where we might actually get to see something substantial in terms of info and real games tomorrow. The rumors have been for a March 2017 release date for ages.

Nhex, Thursday, 20 October 2016 09:26 (seven years ago) link

The March 2017 date is official, from Nintendo.

I don't think we'll see much of games tomorrow since this is labelled as a 3 minute preview. The solid word on the street is a bigger thing next week.

But yeah, the March date was, in the words of Nintendo execs, partially to ensure a strong (1st party) lineup for the first year of this thing. Unlike the Wii U which relied on 3rd party ports.

abcfsk, Thursday, 20 October 2016 10:01 (seven years ago) link

Yeah that's a good thing unless it means "we're not expecting any 3rd party support at all this time around", which is probably does.

JimD, Thursday, 20 October 2016 10:55 (seven years ago) link

feel like at this point if you're still a Nintendo fan you just accept it :(
that said I skipped both Wiis so I might jump back in with this system

Nhex, Thursday, 20 October 2016 11:01 (seven years ago) link

I don't really care about western 3rd party support on a nintendo console. And I don't think Nintendo's got much riding on it either. It's irrelevant. The DS and 3DS thrived without it. Nintendo needs to offer an alternative.

My PC already makes whatever MS / Sony console I reluctantly end up buying redundant in terms of your Call of Dutys and sports games.

abcfsk, Thursday, 20 October 2016 12:36 (seven years ago) link

Well actually sports games is the one genre still better on PSXbox than PC.

abcfsk, Thursday, 20 October 2016 12:37 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5uik5fgIaI

abcfsk, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link

lol Nintendo Switch is a terrible name
Looks kinda dope tho

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:11 (seven years ago) link

Name isn't so bad. Does look cool. But maybe that's just Zelda.

remy bean, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link

I'm totally on board, despite the pretty terrible name

CraigG, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link

trailer is v weird, thing itself looks p cool

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link

Switch is a little dumb but leagues better than Wii or WiiU or GameCube

remy bean, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link

Terrible trailer o_O

Like the thing tho.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

the first time the dude walked over and put the little controllers on and picked it up I whispered "what is this devilry?!?"

mh 😏, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link

haha

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:26 (seven years ago) link

i am into this!

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/10/20/nintendo-switch/

abcfsk, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link

so, hardware-wise it's a really neat nvidia shield?

mh 😏, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link

what does the core system come with tho? How much extra shit are they requiring me to buy?

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link

agreed on dumb name, cool looking device. not sure about the detachable controller nubs but i like the rest

also why make a trailer where people are doing more fun things they would probably rather be doing than playing video games

also the DS had awesome 3rd party support, what you smoking. Even the 3DS's third-party support is way better than their consoles

Nhex, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:34 (seven years ago) link

I would guess it comes with the display/dock/controller wings and the standalone controller is extra?

mh 😏, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link

DS and 3DS have great Japanese 3rd party support yes, not western. Because this is also a portable I believe they'll be able to retain Japanese 3rd party support, further differentiating their lineup from the competition.

abcfsk, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link

Vanagon cameo

calstars, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link

xp yeah I think the standalone controller is basically the Pro controller like on the Wii/U

Nhex, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link

Just consolidating 1st party output to one device is pretty huge, hopefully this means more variety as they don't need to work on 2 Mario Kart games at once for example

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

pending further information, i am into this. third party support is good from an adoption/longevity pov, Nintendo standards on a powerful handheld is cool (especially if it's more comfortably designed than the wii u tablet)

Cautious optimism

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

Has it been confirmed that there's no touch? People are surprised there's no use of that in the trailer...

Nhex, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link

is this likely to be region locked?

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link

i skipped both wiis but i think it may be time to get back into this crap

ciderpress, Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link

xp

@ArcadeGirl64 53s53 seconds ago
As I previously reported in my September 2nd post, Nintendo Switch is 100% region free.

abcfsk, Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:07 (seven years ago) link

The people whose leaks have been most accurate e.g. Emily Rogers have been saying that it will be region free, and Iwata said on a few occasions that they were thinking about it. This console has got to have some big dumb thing wrong with it tho so it could be that :/

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link

holding out for the big mario party announcement

nxd, Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link

I'm going to end up having to buy two of these.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link

i was also surprised that apparently there's no touch-capability.

i haven't had a nintendo console since the wii (which i attempted to mod and ended up bricking within 2 years), but i'm not sure this is going to be the one.

the whole gimmick where you can transform it into a handheld and go off to the williamsburg party and play videogames on the rooftop at the bbq - that's kinda cool in theory but i know i would never do something like that. when i walk my dog in the early morning, i like to just sit on the bench and pay attention to her, i don't want to resume my dragon quest at that moment. and after getting beaten down IRL 2v2 basketball underneath a bustling highway, i know my bros aren't going to want to play nba 2k18 with me. they'll probably be mad at me for being bad at basketball irl, 15 minutes earlier. i don't play games on public transport either. i'm just not a handheld person, so i feel like the main purpose of the system design isn't aimed toward me.

kind of raisin' an eyebrow at the cartridge thing, although maybe these days cartridges can handle resource-intensive games? either way, i guess it has to be a cartridge so that you can Switch(tm) your game into mobile mode so you can level up while you're eating brunch and windsurfing in the afternoon.

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link

whoooa, that came out way more negative than i meant it to be, sorry. i'm sure this will be a cool system and i will be jealous of all people getting to play the nintendo 1st party franchise sequels, for real.

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link

solid state storage is fast in a way optical media will never be, and I get the impression that the Japanese market wouldn't be about a download-only platform. Also yeah carrying around an optical drive would work about as well as a discman.

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

(a discman that needed to stream textures to the GPU without skipping.)

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

idk i think the portability is actually pretty interesting/compelling. the best thing about the Xbox one right now is how it integrates into the windows 10 ecosystem. i can play it on my pc in my office, on my laptop in bed, or on the TV directly from the Xbox in the usual way. this limited portability is pretty awesome, and extending the possibility to take the game with you anywhere is a logical extension and seems pretty cool. Xps

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

yeh I play handhelds mostly at home, in bed etc. playing an Atlus game while cycling is on TV is my jam!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

Kind of funny that there were no kids in that video, unless I missed something.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

I think the average age of someone playing video games is now around 30

mh 😏, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

goin' for chill hipster demo?

Nhex, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

going for that disposable income demo for sure

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

I would like to see all the cables involved for connectivity ie power/recharging etc

The WiiU is a monster for too many cables, I don't want to go through that again.

"Stop researching my life" (Ste), Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

i can play it on my pc in my office,

oh is that a thing? like, via remote desktop or something? this makes me pretty glad i don't have an xbox.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

yeah it's what I loved about 3D World, it was sometimes challenging but mostly kinda light, even the final boss battle was kinda easy. but then there's like 3 extra worlds worth of the stuff you've really been waiting for

frogbs, Friday, 27 October 2023 04:08 (four months ago) link

odyssey is like that too, tho theres some optional hard stuff just mixed in with the normal levels too

lag∞n, Friday, 27 October 2023 04:11 (four months ago) link

I got confused after beating odyssey and found it was too much hassle running around trying to look for extra content

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 27 October 2023 09:06 (four months ago) link

I like my Mario linear or linearish, like odyssey

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 27 October 2023 09:07 (four months ago) link

The last battle vs the bowser castle isn’t fucking around…fun though but a slog towards the end

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Saturday, 28 October 2023 13:18 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

I've think I've failed the Jump Jump Jump level maybe 50 times now

nate woolls, Friday, 1 December 2023 21:45 (three months ago) link

oh man the five star jump level in the special world took me prob 150 tries

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 December 2023 21:57 (three months ago) link

it took me like 20-30 tries to do it, something about how that last bit switches up the rhythm kind of messes with your brain I think. but now that I've beaten it I can probably pass it like...30% of the time. unless you're talking about the level that it unlocks (the 5 star difficulty one with wall jumps), I tried it 3 times and went nope impossible

frogbs, Friday, 1 December 2023 22:00 (three months ago) link

I did the 5 star one eventually, but I had to switch from playing handheld to using the pro controller and TV first. Which is something I never had to resort to when playing Celeste, including most of its extra challenges.

Iain Mew (if), Friday, 1 December 2023 23:42 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Urgh I really hope this isn’t as difficult as you’re making it sound, our 7 year old wants this (and nothing else, apparently!) for xmas, he’s going to be so disappointed if he opens it up and then it turns out he can’t make any progress with it. Can you at least get through the core game to an initial ending before you get to the really tricky stuff? Or is the main path difficult too?

JimD, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 09:16 (two months ago) link

All the difficult ones we're talking about are optional. The main path isn't any more difficult than previous 2D Marios. If you have someone else that can play, the co-op is really well done too (my 5-year-old has been happily playing it as Yoshi which is the easy mode)

Iain Mew (if), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 09:25 (two months ago) link

Ah phew, thanks. :)

Co-op can be a mixed blessing in mario games though, definitely remember some bits (especially in the Wii U NSMB game but also in mario 3d world) where it was so hard to avoid getting in each others' way that having a second player actually just made things more difficult.

JimD, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 11:26 (two months ago) link

they've really improved the 2p mode this time - we were much more successful with it

stet, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:24 (two months ago) link

the big difference in multiplayer between this and the other new 2-D Marios is that the characters are basically transparent. so you jump through each other instead of getting in each other's way. though you can jump on top of the Yoshis which sometimes gets irritating on the tougher levels. but yea multiplayer is a lot 'easier' so to speak. I always wondered if the other ones made it obnoxious on purpose to cover for the fact that multiplayer is kind of cheating, since you can endlessly respawn

we're only halfway through yet but yeah I don't think the main game is too hard. all the really difficult stuff is optional. also I think this game put a lot of care into making sections that look crazy and difficult but actually aren't too bad. I think a 7 year old could do it.

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:52 (two months ago) link

There's two playable characters who don't take any damage (will die if they get crushed or fall offscreen though), my 8 year old daughter plays with them and loves the game.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:02 (two months ago) link

its cool how theyve found clever ways to have easy modes more incorporated into games, special characters, stuff that comes "after" winning

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:05 (two months ago) link

its funny there was so much complaining when it was revealed that one of the semi-recent Mario games would have a feature where Luigi would 'help' you if you died enough times, basically making it so anyone could finish the game. I think a lot of people felt that you only deserved to beat a game if you had enough skill. I guess I get that but man, just thinking back to all the NES/SNES games I rented where we were basically stuck at Level 2 or 3 because the difficultly ramped up so much, and how much stuff was probably in those games that their most dedicated players probably never even got to see because they were just kids.

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:56 (two months ago) link

lol so many nes games were impossible just cause they were bad

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:10 (two months ago) link

^me and Home Alone 2: Lost in New York

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:26 (two months ago) link

that's definitely true but I always suspected a big part of the reason was you only had so much space and developers didn't want their games to be beaten in an hour so they compensated by making them super hard

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:48 (two months ago) link

yeah just a mindset descended from arcade games where the design goal was to eat quarters

ciderpress, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 21:47 (two months ago) link

in retrospect pretty funny how the goal of the gamer back in those days was to outsmart the developer and figure out which moves you could spam or what corner you could hide in to trick the CPU

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 21:59 (two months ago) link

xp this design for insane arcade difficulty was always stupid for home consoles. every Mario game had cheat codes/warps built in so you could beat the game in 5 minutes if you wanted!

Nhex, Thursday, 21 December 2023 16:00 (two months ago) link

It wasn't necessarily an intentional mindset just something inherent in the beginning due to that reason.

Evan, Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:36 (two months ago) link

old game difficulty was goosed to sell magazines and 900 number tip lines to children.

Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:40 (two months ago) link

But it created the game genie market, which then converted the beautiful game hardware forms into a grotesque amd shameful monument to "winning".

Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:43 (two months ago) link

you plug a cartridge into the genie, insert the hybrid mass into the mouth of your games machine, and now your basement is Moreau's Island

Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:50 (two months ago) link

how exactly did the Game Genie work? my understanding is all it did was mess around with some commarea that held global variables, so for whoever was creating the Game Genie it was just a matter of figuring out which hex value got you to the hardcoded number of lives or timer speed or whatever

one thing I remember is the 'unofficial' Game Genie guides, which would include some very bizarre 'cheats'. you remember that dude in Mortal Kombat who would pop out of the corner and yell "Toasty"? you could actually play at that guy! well...sort of. your character would just be that animation, you could move around but I think as soon as you hit punch the game would freeze.

frogbs, Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:00 (two months ago) link

yeah it just messed with the memory, the codes were basically memory addresses

ciderpress, Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:04 (two months ago) link

I’ve returned to Super Mario Wonder over my holiday break. I put some hours into it when it was first released, mostly just sprinting through levels, not spending much time soaking it in.

Taking more time with it now, replaying levels to catch stuff I’d missed, seeking out overlooked Wonder Flowers (maybe the best mechanic introduced into a Mario game imo).

Found the secret world (optional) with genuinely gnarly and difficult levels. Celeste-y. Beat a few by the skin of my teeth, saving the rest for after I clear the main game.

If you can play it on a proper TV and use a Pro controller, do it obv. Improved my experience immensely. It looks gorgeous and the joy cons just do not cut it for precise platforming.

Anyway. I think this is my favorite Mario game. More of this please.

circa1916, Sunday, 31 December 2023 06:11 (two months ago) link

It is great. We enjoyed 3D World and U, but this has been a new level of fun for us.

Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 31 December 2023 19:17 (two months ago) link

I bought Hori Split Pro controller add-on, the big one with a far more ergonomic feel, and it really does make this feel like a new console

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 19:30 (two months ago) link

I guess this is where the Mario chat is? My kids have been obsessed with Mario for the past year or so, we don't have a Switch yet but because I said 'we're not getting a Switch this Christmas' they think they're getting one next Christmas...hmmm

Anyway they have been playing old Wii games, New SMB (thought this was too difficult to start with but 9yo has gotten really good), and Super Paper Mario, which I played when it came out and have really enjoyed revisiting - it's made my kid a decent player. They're on SM Galaxy now. Have been watching player videos of SM Wonder which is giving them their fix for now too.

kinder, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 20:26 (two months ago) link

There's a pretty strong chance that an new, upgraded Switch console will be released in 2024 so holding out isn't the worst idea.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 20:39 (two months ago) link

I hope so.

Jeff, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:41 (two months ago) link

seems like it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:42 (two months ago) link

how long after is comes out before you can get one tho! folks

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:48 (two months ago) link

Playing SM Wonder with the switch SNES controller is the only way to fly..

best in class D-pad and just enough buttons to control but nothing extra...

using joycons is like driving with boxing gloves on.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 14:11 (one month ago) link

I generally like the pro controller but it doesn’t quite hit the sport for side scrolling or platformers. I should try the SNES one.

Jeff, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 14:35 (one month ago) link

Wait, I have to have a Nintendo online membership to use it??

Jeff, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 14:36 (one month ago) link

just buy a 3rd party snes style controller, 8bitdo makes them

ciderpress, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 14:44 (one month ago) link

i got my son the 8bitdo controller that is basically a souped up snes controller with all the pro buttons, it’s great

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 15:43 (one month ago) link

agree that the 8bitdo SN30 controller is great

c u (crüt), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 15:55 (one month ago) link

at least for SNES games & games that use the d-pad for movement. the pro controller is probably better for games that use the left analog stick.

c u (crüt), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 15:58 (one month ago) link

the sn30 is flat like a snes controller htats the one i was thinking of but that looks good too

ciderpress, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 17:22 (one month ago) link

power went out last night so after the kids went to bed the only thing to do was play Mario Wonder. I know it's been said a lot ITT but holy hell is it a great game. I have always thought Mario at its best was kind of a psychedelic experience and this game is just nothing but that. so many clever things going on in each level. also kind of the perfect difficulty, I think Nintendo has figured out that games shouldn't be too difficult to beat but should offer legitimate challenges for those who want to see everything

frogbs, Sunday, 14 January 2024 05:53 (one month ago) link

every stage is touch fuzzy get dizzy

formerly abanana (dat), Sunday, 14 January 2024 06:44 (one month ago) link

Reminds me a lot of the more psychedelic levels that people created on Mario Maker.

Jeff, Sunday, 14 January 2024 11:48 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

well we finally beat it. final boss battle was great. credits sequence somehow even cooler. there's just so much stuff in this game.

frogbs, Saturday, 10 February 2024 02:18 (three weeks ago) link


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