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Has anyone watched these? I'm pretty fascinated by the skill it takes, the efficiency of the playing, the time these people invest in order to be competitive and get their WORLD RECORDS, the various categories and lingo specific to each game, the knowledge of glitches and their ability to apply them to their runs, its growing popularity and culture, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-QpxN8wPo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DExvqc6z_94

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSkHSF3e6kY&feature=youtu.be

http://gdqvods.com/

https://gamesdonequick.com/

Evan, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 18:29 (four years ago) link

ive watched this entire thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTf3-AmwcTo

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 18:31 (four years ago) link

o ha wrong one here u go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMrWnUf3iN4

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 18:32 (four years ago) link

no wait theyre both goos

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 18:32 (four years ago) link

i resign

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 18:33 (four years ago) link

It's alright. I find it hard to keep track of what's what. There's so many "categories" per game.

Evan, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 18:38 (four years ago) link

some of the glitch ones r so crazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14wqBA5Q1yc

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 18:42 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTzs9bcNgMQ

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 18:43 (four years ago) link

Oh yeah, and that ^ no stars one is "tool assisted" so they're using programs to hack and help automate things humans can't do alone. So that's a whole other category itself.

Evan, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 19:16 (four years ago) link

The commentary on the zelda one in the first post really highlights all of the things a runner needs to know and practice and hope for to get a good time, though I don't understand what he's talking about in most cases.

Evan, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 19:25 (four years ago) link

Sorry if that particular one jumps to 30 minutes in for anyone else, sorry about that.

Evan, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 19:25 (four years ago) link

I actually watched significant chunks of GDQ this year live.
Planning to do the same for SGDQ in a couple of months.

bothan zulu (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 23:19 (four years ago) link

I love the awful games done quick segments the most

bothan zulu (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 23:19 (four years ago) link

i enjoy how different the speedrunning technique is for different games, with e.g. mario64 mostly being about abusing the game's physics and freedom of movement without actually breaking it, while ocarina of time (and the other 3d zelda games) is about breaking the hell out of the game with glitches

ciderpress, Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:00 (four years ago) link

i used to watch a lot of speedrunning on twitch a few years ago but i've fallen out of the habit, at my peak interest i was actually running mario64 myself though i never got under 20 mins for 16-star or 1hr for 70-star so i was pretty much a scrub. was still fun to learn and practice all the tricks though

ciderpress, Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:02 (four years ago) link

How much of your free time did that suck up? Some of these games require over an hour to run through, not to mention all of the grinding to memorize and perfect each little trick. Also the time spent glitch hunting I'm sure.

Evan, Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:13 (four years ago) link

yeah i didn't spend too much time on it, that's why i never got good at it. was also mainly done during a period of unemployment. i'll leave it to the folks without jobs now

ciderpress, Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:54 (four years ago) link

tbh i have more interest in TASes now than real-time speedruns but that might be a different thread altogether

ciderpress, Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:00 (four years ago) link

They're the only ones that can dedicate the time needed to actually be competitive if I were to guess.

Evan, Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:00 (four years ago) link

Nah same thread! It's just a "category" of speedrunning as far as I understand.

Evan, Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:01 (four years ago) link

it's a top-level category then, there's a pretty big difference between 'this is the best a real person can do' and 'this is what is theoretically possible within the game engine'

ciderpress, Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:06 (four years ago) link

For sure. TAS runs aren't to be compared to human runs.

Evan, Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:08 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

fuck going outside, fuck this white holiday, fuck britain, fuck isil.... & thank god for gdq

there is some really bad mega man clone happening right now and it's like whatever
but yesterday i caught a bunch of this sweet totally broken f-zero-ey game and now i want a wii

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGxa37IRqNA

<3 these nerds. y'all been watching?

yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Monday, 4 July 2016 19:13 (four years ago) link

Oh, yeah I've been checking it out periodically! The less popular games that probably have a "community" of what- 10 serious runners maybe(? wild guess), is it weird for them to have such a deep knowledge of something that almost nobody else is paying attention to? And the time and energy they'd have to spend to get to that level. It's a strange existence to me.

Evan, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 13:17 (four years ago) link

Watching someone speed run the Japanese version of the GameCube port of Resident Evil 2 (Leon B path?). What a weird game to watch

Nhex, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 08:57 (four years ago) link

Watching Leon eurostep through this game is so oddly mesmerizing

Nhex, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 09:12 (four years ago) link

Goddamnit, I'm gonna spend all week watching this shit, aren't I

Nhex, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 09:50 (four years ago) link

I'm already thinking about waking up tomorrow early to catch a 100% Bionic Commando run

Nhex, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 09:50 (four years ago) link

Disabled runner forced to play one-handed makes a sweet speech after his run: https://www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick/v/76453001?t=02h39m01s

Evan, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 15:56 (four years ago) link

I love that guy. Last GDQ he did a run of that recent Transformers game that looks like the cartoons and solicited donation comments with Transformers puns only. It was memorable.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 16:22 (four years ago) link

having a great time watching this Mega Man 2 run:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mgZwf1lpLU

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 16:23 (four years ago) link

xp that was sweet

Nhex, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 20:20 (four years ago) link

Useful to just check here to see the last day's archived videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/gamesdonequick/videos
Just watched the Jet Set Radio speedrun which is amazing mostly considering (as much as I love that game!) how much you're fighting the camera controls and cut scenes themselves and this guy makes the insane building-to-building jumps and turns look like nothing

Nhex, Thursday, 7 July 2016 09:32 (four years ago) link

GDQ = hax with hands. I want to go to one eventually just to find out what makes them all tick

El Tomboto, Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:39 (four years ago) link

the tetris happening right now is a+ tetris

yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:48 (four years ago) link

GDQ = hax with hands. I want to go to one eventually just to find out what makes them all tick

― El Tomboto

drama, mostly. :(

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Friday, 8 July 2016 01:00 (four years ago) link

but yeah, speedrunning is basically what i watch when i want to watch something and not think about it. i really like watching "binding of isaac" because there's so much rng in it. i also have this strange fascination for watching people trying to 100% the ancient cave in lufia ii, just because it's such a completely ridiculous thing to do (and again, super rng dependent).

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Friday, 8 July 2016 01:02 (four years ago) link

i enjoyed this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXggQm9EGLw

am0n, Friday, 15 July 2016 01:54 (four years ago) link

Damnnn GDQ has really upgraded their setup in just a few years

Nhex, Friday, 15 July 2016 22:11 (four years ago) link

yeah they used to look like they were in someone's basement

ciderpress, Friday, 15 July 2016 22:21 (four years ago) link

I got to the point where he starts grinding for 10 minutes for money and was like "nooooooo i've watched a speedrun on this before"
this game is really terrible

Nhex, Friday, 15 July 2016 22:23 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

this SGDQ's Bioshock run is pretty entertaining to watch because the runner is basically being an asshole about the whole thing - he loads from prior saves at multiple points, the couch commentators are just dumbfounded ("this is literally cheating") and despite the donations coming through for the bad ending, because he loads up from a previously saved game to finish it off, he gets the good ending and basically tells everybody to fuck off and watch the bad ending on youtube. I have to assume the organizers gave him a talking-to afterwards.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:48 (four years ago) link

Like right around here he just basically says fuck it

https://youtu.be/2gnnweoN76Q?t=3414

El Tomboto, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:52 (four years ago) link

Anyone else attempted/thought about attempting a speedrun besides ciderpress? I've been thinking about what game I might already be good enough at to be semi-competitive out of the gate, and I think for me it's GTA2. Seems the record is well under an hour too, so that's good.

I'm pretty fair at some RPGs too but those all seem to run into the multiple hours, even if you can find some kind of glitch/exploit, ain't got no time for that.

it's sort of a layered stunt (sheesh), Sunday, 28 August 2016 04:29 (four years ago) link

i had started running Nightsky towards the end of my last speed running phase, if I was gonna do it again i'd stick to that and other similar short lite games

ciderpress, Sunday, 28 August 2016 04:49 (four years ago) link

Closest I probably ever came was this joke game on Steam called DLC Quest that lasts about 15 minutes long and (naturally) has an achievement for speedrunning it that I tried in vain to get. But I can dream...

Nhex, Sunday, 28 August 2016 06:51 (four years ago) link

Why?

https://www.twitch.tv/underscoretrix/v/87810660

Evan, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 20:38 (four years ago) link

To clarify it's a 300% run. So it's a 100% run in all 3 save slots done consecutively.

Evan, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 20:43 (four years ago) link

well, that's one way to kill eight hours anyway

erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 22:12 (four years ago) link

had this bookmarked for months, finally watched that relay race, A+!

Nhex, Monday, 30 March 2020 02:18 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u1tVD7UEqw&feature=youtu.be

Nhex, Saturday, 16 May 2020 06:19 (six months ago) link

When Arcus eventually grows a moustache and starts wearing the cowboy hat I was like "OHHH THAT GUY!!"

Nhex, Saturday, 16 May 2020 06:19 (six months ago) link

I'll always be fascinated by him, wondering if anyone in his life was concerned when the sudden cowboy transformation wasn't just a phase, and criticizing him for not getting a job then realizing he makes decent enough money playing frickin NES in his house all week as if it were a 9-5 (Look I don't know how much he makes but streamers with that ~500 regular viewer count can apparently afford rent and food from what I hear. We'd all probably be a bit surprised by how much they actually make? I don't know. It's not something they talk about!).

Evan, Saturday, 16 May 2020 21:15 (six months ago) link

i kinda like that guy, thanks for introducing me to him

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 16 May 2020 22:00 (six months ago) link

Couldn't sleep so I watch this 60 minute one on Mike Tyson's Punch-Out also made by SummoningSalt. Great stuff too, with... a teeny bit of a twist ending. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBR9ypSOTGQ

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 08:44 (six months ago) link

Ok I'm finding this Ninja Gaiden video much more engrossing than expected.

It helps that I used to play this game all the time, I would get to the last boss (or just before) but never quite finished it. And also that the speed run doesn't involve any stupid glitches or zips, just familiar aspects of the game that I remember using just to get through.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:22 (six months ago) link

Ha yeah "Oh cool we get to see how he gets pas- [zzzzzip!] ...whelp"

Evan, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:47 (six months ago) link

And yes omg @ pre-cowboy Arcus

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:59 (six months ago) link

for some reason the video Nhex posted 4 days ago isn't working for me. can someone post the name of the video so i can search it on youtube?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:01 (six months ago) link

i think it was summoning salt's ninja gaiden video

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:21 (six months ago) link

hxxps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u1tVD7UEqw

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:22 (six months ago) link

...shivering erotic king banana?

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:25 (six months ago) link

Om

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 21 May 2020 12:53 (six months ago) link

i overthink things so much

i guess what arcus is doing is no more or less normal than anybody else in 2020, his life is no more or less normal than mine

it's not so much the cowboy hat or the bolo tie, but the cowboy hat and bolo tie open me up more to questioning things i guess? how does one get to a point where one says "you know what i'm just gonna play ninja gaiden 8 hours a day for a living" (i mean i assume he keeps a regular schedule, the video didn't mention it but he seems well-adjusted so i imagine he's got that part of it sorted)

i don't say that to judge him, i'm not gonna be some damn boomer complaining about the kids and their avocado toast. i don't think his career choice is any less worthwhile than mine. that's what i think about. it's so fucking absurd.

and i'm tying that into nancy this week where there's the storyline with the magnet school where everyone is The Best at something. that's the pressure everyone's under, right? you gotta be #1. it doesn't matter if the thing you're #1 at is meaningless and absurd, and i just think of milton, "better to reign in hell". and why not, after all? this is hell.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:04 (six months ago) link

i would do what arcus was doing, if i was good enough. he's also one of the best streamers on twitch, not in terms of his skill but because he is a good guy and completely stands out among his screaming, loudmouthed, boring peers

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 May 2020 15:47 (six months ago) link

i guess that's the other thing that makes me wonder about arcus, just the fact that he is a pretty professional, put-together guy. a lot of these streamers, i just figure they stream because they're not cut out for anything else (and, you know, fair enough). arcus just has such composure!

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 May 2020 15:51 (six months ago) link

i watched that youtube documentary about ninja gaiden speedruns last night, it was great!!

arcus just has such composure!

i liked this youtube comment:

wwwaldo333
4 days ago
Arcus barely loses a 1/27,000 run to minor tail RNG after spending literal years in the attempt
Arcus: darn.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 May 2020 15:54 (six months ago) link

Turns out that Ninja Gaiden streamer is a pretty pandemic-proof job.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 21 May 2020 16:00 (six months ago) link

he probably doesn't even know what's happening in that world. and he may already have a bunch of masks, as i'm assuming at least some fans have sent him replica ninja gaiden Ryu costumes through the years

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 May 2020 16:15 (six months ago) link

by "that world", i mean "this world"

hard to tell the difference sometimes

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 May 2020 16:15 (six months ago) link

Ryukahr has that same vibe. mellow powerplay video game streamers are my jam

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 21 May 2020 16:18 (six months ago) link

ooh, i don't know Ryukahr! i will check them out

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 May 2020 16:23 (six months ago) link

oh lord, i am COMPLETELY hooked on Ryukahr.
Try here as a nice place to start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arV86_1iPC0

And here's a completely unbelievable mario world romhack speedrun from him for thread accuracy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8mLT9gM5EA

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 21 May 2020 16:34 (six months ago) link

i've watched literally hundreds of his mario gameplay videos and still load them up the instant he posts a new one.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 21 May 2020 16:37 (six months ago) link

Big same, my youtube diet is 98% Bon Appetit and Ryukahr at this point. It's just very satisfying to see him working through these levels (without having to sit through every full attempt).

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 21 May 2020 18:00 (six months ago) link

he's good!
what's the deal with that ROM hack, did he co-create it?

Nhex, Thursday, 21 May 2020 22:42 (six months ago) link

also one thing i keep wondering is how the runners are capturing the segment times during play. is it something in the PC or twitch software and they hit a physical button?

Nhex, Thursday, 21 May 2020 22:43 (six months ago) link

Super Ryu World 1 and 2 were made for him; both are loads of fun to watch.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 21 May 2020 22:51 (six months ago) link

xp it's a separate piece of software that lets them set up their splits and usually the streamers will either have it update when they hit a key like spacebar or if they're reeal fancy a footswitch

lumen (esby), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:19 (six months ago) link

I made a big goofy post last year about some rom hacks i enjoyed (spectating!) if anyone's been getting into this stuff

which mario games are not easy?

lumen (esby), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:24 (six months ago) link

I watched through the Punchout video then stumbled across this - apparently the only video footage of Matt Turk completing one of his many world records. Some nice comments from him about the speed run community in pre-streaming days

https://youtu.be/MZs4MCdVznw

BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 19:10 (six months ago) link

Big same, my youtube diet is 98% Bon Appetit and Ryukahr at this point. It's just very satisfying to see him working through these levels (without having to sit through every full attempt).

― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, May 21, 2020 1:00 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

Well, I sure hope Ryukahr doesn't turn out to be a racist asshole.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 20:00 (five months ago) link

oh god it would truly be the most milkshake'd of all ducks in my worlds

to be clear, there has been no suggestion whatsoever that he's problematic afaik

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 20:18 (five months ago) link

i know the feeling. any of these guys can be another pewdiepie at the flick of a switch...

Nhex, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 23:49 (five months ago) link

the proverbial "heated gaming moment"

Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 00:04 (five months ago) link

Heh, it only clicked with me right now that "speed running" is sort of redundant. I guess it needs the "speed" qualifier because "run" has so many definitions (top three number of definitions in English iirc).

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 12:13 (five months ago) link

Yeah in gaming a “run” really just means a repeat play through, so the qualifier is actually useful here.

Evan, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:13 (five months ago) link

"i'm going running now, talk to you later!"

*plays videogames for 12 hours straight without moving*

our god is a might god (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 15:09 (five months ago) link

You know what's ironic is that despite how unhealthy the hobby of grinding video games for hours while being immobile can be, speedrunners seem very universally dedicated to the importance of staying hydrated. They all have bots that remind them to drink water and they fill up huge jugs/cups like they're doing intense workouts. So that's good, I guess!

Evan, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 16:45 (five months ago) link

in college I spent 2 days trying to speedrun Jaws for the NES before realizing that 1) someone already did it in half the time of my best run and 2) this guy understood the random encounter algorithm way better than I did

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 16:49 (five months ago) link

I spent a month learning Kid Kool. Maybe I'll try again some time.

wearaew (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 17:41 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipVX6sctV3c
I found a Kirby Air Ride speedrunner on twitch. Having never seen this gamecube game before, I was surprised at how fast the powered up vehicles could move and how much the gameplay seemed like a more versatile version of Mario Kart battle mode. You're not just killing guys - mostly you're collecting things and performing obscure tasks to fill in checkboxes on a big grid (100/120 wins the game). I've watched his stream several times now. Learning the ins-n-outs is very compelling; but mostly, I enjoy the sleepy chill trance his streams put me in.

wearaew (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 18:00 (five months ago) link

But you don't want to stay too hydrated, do you? Because it would stink to have to pee when you're on a record run.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 18:02 (five months ago) link

OR WOULD IT

Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 23:52 (five months ago) link

People on job interview panels should be required to hydrate heavily before each interview, and doubly so before the final selection decision.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 11 June 2020 01:13 (five months ago) link

kirby air ride looks fun

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 June 2020 01:50 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

Boy, do I love SDQ. Watched a crazy super glitched backwards order run of Zelda II yesterday, as well as The Last of Us 1 on Grounded/HUDless mode.

There's an Ocarina of Time randomizer run tonight some of you may be interested in

Nhex, Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:14 (three months ago) link

The guy who streamed Alien:Isolation was a hoot.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 August 2020 02:00 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kDSVzyXhJw

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 August 2020 02:00 (three months ago) link


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