BLOODBORNE given Feb '15 Euro/NA release date, deemed worthy of own thread by ilxor

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rU8HfemdFc

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:30 (six years ago) link

psyched

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:32 (six years ago) link

this is the goth Dark Souls, right?

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:33 (six years ago) link

steamgothhorror

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:38 (six years ago) link

day after my birthday, seems like as good a time as any to buy a PS4.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:51 (six years ago) link

siiick

💻 👀 (am0n), Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:24 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Anyone else playing the alpha?

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 3 October 2014 16:43 (six years ago) link

no i watched some of the videos

am0n, Friday, 3 October 2014 17:01 (six years ago) link

you got in?

am0n, Friday, 3 October 2014 17:03 (six years ago) link

Yeah - only had a chance to play 30 minutes or so far, but first impressions are great. Feels like an interesting new avenue for the Souls series - not having a shield will take a bit of getting used to.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 3 October 2014 18:09 (six years ago) link

whats your impression of the a.i.? i was wondering if things respawn always in the same position or if next-gen allows them to randomize the interactions a bit

am0n, Friday, 3 October 2014 20:39 (six years ago) link

Hard to say for sure cuz I haven't played much - hoping to get some more time on Sunday before the alpha ends. Didn't seem randomised in the time I played, though, just the traditional Souls repetition.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 3 October 2014 21:27 (six years ago) link

thats what i got from the videos i saw, stationary dudes but there also seems to roving groups which is awesome. the message and bloodstain markers looked cool too, so much detail

kernel poo (am0n), Monday, 6 October 2014 16:47 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

The development team at From Software say there are about ten areas like Yharnam to survive, one of which is called the Chalice Dungeon; an underground catacomb that procedurally generates its pathways.

whoa

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 8 December 2014 20:34 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

sooo, i'll be able to play this online without getting PS+, right?

lil urbane (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 18:31 (five years ago) link

i think ps+ is now necessary for that. the days of free online w/ ps3 are over

ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ (am0n), Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:43 (five years ago) link

if you need me i'll be in an induced coma so mvrch comes tomorrow

ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ (am0n), Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:43 (five years ago) link

otm

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:48 (five years ago) link

word, thanks. btw i believe my screen name is "Mr_Kitka".

lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:51 (five years ago) link

players who pre-order this from game stores in the uk get an exclusive lolfedora skin for their in-game messengers:

https://img.game.co.uk/widgets/images/Bloodborne/widget_Bloodborne.jpg

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 13:03 (five years ago) link

:(

ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ (am0n), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 15:26 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

have these fuckers finally figured out the killer app to get me to buy the goddamn system?
ahma wait for the first batch of reviews but if it's generally positive i guess i'm all in.

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:33 (five years ago) link

next edition of edge due out tomorrow calls it 'the first true next gen essential' apparently

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:36 (five years ago) link

cannot wait. what's the ilg co-op password gonna be?

lil urbane (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 21:05 (five years ago) link

YOU DIED

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 21:08 (five years ago) link

i read that it needs to be 8 letters, so YALL DIED

lil urbane (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 21:28 (five years ago) link

sold

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 21:32 (five years ago) link

first post in this lolneogaf thread summarises the edge article for those interested: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1008499

key bullet point: "Bloodborne is Hidetaka Miyazaki's brutal riposte to the section of his playerbase that thinks it has seen it all before."

psyched

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 12 March 2015 11:33 (five years ago) link

http://www.mcvuk.com/special-features/read/the-big-game-bloodborne/0166

“Yes,” Miyazaki confirms. “There will be a New Game Plus mode.” He laughs. “We’re having trouble beating it, though.”

Infostealer.Steamfishi (am0n), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:43 (five years ago) link

am0n, can we be PS4 friends?

lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 12 March 2015 22:31 (five years ago) link

yes psn is online7845789547

Infostealer.Steamfishi (am0n), Friday, 13 March 2015 01:31 (five years ago) link

The Souls games are about dying - every feeble creature and majestically grotesque monster and crumbling castle in those games is a manifestation of death in its many scary and sometimes beautiful forms. But Bloodborne? Bloodborne’s more about killing.

The rhythm and style of the combat is different, you see, even if it might look broadly similar. In Souls you’re usually on the defensive - you walk into a room with your shield up and can take a few hits before reacting. That just does not happen in Bloodborne. You don’t even have a shield. When something hits you, you have to hit back, and quickly, to regain health.

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/03/16/dark-souls-death-bloodborne-killing

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 16 March 2015 11:50 (five years ago) link

Giv dit blud!
I would do this in a second

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 March 2015 00:19 (five years ago) link

i don't actually want to know anything more before i play, but i can't look away:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GtcEBBs4rE

lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:35 (five years ago) link

i want a positive critical consensus and two freaked out ILXor reviews
and then i'm buying the fucking system god help me

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:36 (five years ago) link

i can't remember the last time i was so hyped for a game, honestly

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:42 (five years ago) link

argh i refuse to watch videos!

Infostealer.Steamfishi (am0n), Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:57 (five years ago) link

Downloading now, it's gonna take days. No more videos or links for me until Thursday (the first chance I'll get to dig in).

lil urbane (Jordan), Sunday, 22 March 2015 19:55 (five years ago) link

http://www.thejimquisition.com/2015/03/bloodborne-review-die-die-again/

glowing reviews so far

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 02:28 (five years ago) link

Yeah, it's looking good. Common complaint seems to be loading times. 40 seconds after dying? Jeez.

Anyway, psyched.

circa1916, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 02:36 (five years ago) link

early reviews obsessively positive:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/bloodborne/critic-reviews
i'm hoping the long loading time complaint is addressed by the patch?
Jordan, you are gonna be the guy who determines how my bank account looks in April.

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 04:41 (five years ago) link

downloading now!

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 08:34 (five years ago) link

so ready for this

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 14:05 (five years ago) link

Jordan, you are gonna be the guy who determines how my bank account looks in April.

ha, that's a big responsibility but i will let you know.

it took massive willpower not to start this before work today, there should be some sort of award.

lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 14:19 (five years ago) link

i'm hoping the long loading time complaint is addressed by the patch?

apparently not yet, but soon:

http://www.justpushstart.com/2015/03/bloodborne-long-load-times-will-be-addressed-in-the-next-patch/

lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 14:20 (five years ago) link

hm, will def wait for that to come to fruition

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 14:43 (five years ago) link

played the first hour. as good as I hoped. one of the character classes is "waste of skin" and has terrible stats haha.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 18:20 (five years ago) link

There's only one lantern iirc, but there are doors/shortcuts that you can open up that make it a quick trip (maybe that house that's very dark inside?).

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:08 (two years ago) link

in my haste to try again I kept dying

souls games in a nutshell ime

shrek and han solo kinda dress the same (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:19 (two years ago) link

There's only one lantern iirc, but there are doors/shortcuts that you can open up that make it a quick trip (maybe that house that's very dark inside?).

I found the house that lets me avoid the two werewolves(?) on the bridge right before the boss, but I was hoping to avoid the part where I had to get past the guys at the gate staring at the big bonfire.

Nag Reddit (Leee), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:29 (two years ago) link

I might be misremembering, but I think you can go out a downstairs door of that house and head right up to the starting lamp?

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:59 (two years ago) link

you're not misremembering, that's the shortest path

chihuahuau, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 19:41 (two years ago) link

Cthulhu help me, I'm looking at a walkthrough right now.

Nag Reddit (Leee), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 00:56 (two years ago) link

cleris beast is optional (:

chihuahuau, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 08:48 (two years ago) link

I realized that except for the blood echoes (because you know why) I have resources now to upgrade my stats and my weapon (axe). I've read that health and weapons should be prioritized, so I'm just going to grind the starting area for the echoes needed.

I also encountered my first NPC that isn't locked behind a door!

Deontology Sanders (Leee), Saturday, 6 October 2018 17:06 (two years ago) link

Beat the Cleric Beast! It didn't feel so overwhelmingly hard once I got a feel for its attack patterns an be after I gave up trying to land visceral stacks on it.

Father G on the other hand feels like I should try for visceral stacks when I can. Haven't had much luck against him so far.

Deontology Sanders (Leee), Saturday, 6 October 2018 23:21 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Picked this up again and after the requisite period of remembering the controls, I managed to beat Father G. So, nice that I can explore a new level. The controls did feel a bit wonky during the boss fight, like when trying to dodge, my character would do to moves after soon he initial delay (probably me button mashing).

Bought to the Kirk Hammett Hammer with the process (and selling his the saw blade I found), then realized that I didn't have enough strength to world it.

Newsted joins this band and quickly he’s subdued (Leee), Saturday, 24 November 2018 19:59 (one year ago) link

*two moves

Newsted joins this band and quickly he’s subdued (Leee), Saturday, 24 November 2018 20:00 (one year ago) link

Maybe you were out of stamina (and mashing)?

It's not worth selling weapons imo, there aren't that many of them in the game, and it's easier to kill enemies to get currency. You might want to use it later (or not, but still).

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 24 November 2018 20:52 (one year ago) link

I kind of had that thought about stamina too, so I upgraded it. Haven't had much chance to fully test drive yet.

Good point on weapons, I even found a path that's not too hard for farming blood currency.

Newsted joins this band and quickly he’s subdued (Leee), Saturday, 24 November 2018 21:51 (one year ago) link

So I ground enough enemies to buy that Hunter emblem to open a big gate that leads to Vicar Amelia (fight her twice to no avail, even with an NPC buddy, I've heard that you should only tackle her at around level 25?), and I've found the way to Old Yarnham (the farthest I've traveled there is that plaza where the Hunter enemy keeps trying to do a hot and run against me).

However, I'm not sure which area to go and/or focus on next.

Newsted joins this band and quickly he’s subdued (Leee), Monday, 26 November 2018 05:39 (one year ago) link

I always got super turned around in Cathedral Ward tbh. It's been awhile, but iirc Old Yarnham is technically option but leads to some other optional areas (chalice dungeons, another one that should be a surprise), and beating Amelia is the way forward.

She's one of the few Souls bosses that never quite clicked with me, I think I summoned help every time. I love the fight with the three npcs down in the cemetery (?) below though.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 26 November 2018 17:20 (one year ago) link

Hm, I was kind of stuck on Cathedral Ward -- there didn't seem to be any other way for me to progress besides either going into Old Yarnham or sinking 10000 echoes to buy the Hunter Emblem Key.

Newsted joins this band and quickly he’s subdued (Leee), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 00:17 (one year ago) link

I know from looking at the wiki today that if you do go into Old Yharnam and beat the boss there, a door opens up by the Cathedral Ward lamp and then there's a tricksy way to avoid having to get the Hunter Emblem.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 00:35 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

God this game. I started playing but I'm still stuck at Vicar Amelia, PLUS I've also lost 9 insight. I keep thinking this is just not my game but then I read others going nuts over it and revisit and I end up grinding my teeth.

Oleeever St. John Yogurty (Leee), Saturday, 19 January 2019 17:53 (one year ago) link

Lesson learned from Dark Souls is there is no shame in searching for help and hints.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 January 2019 18:20 (one year ago) link

my lesson learned was there is no shame in searching for other games

ciderpress, Saturday, 19 January 2019 18:30 (one year ago) link

there is no shame in summoning help

chihuahuau, Saturday, 19 January 2019 21:10 (one year ago) link

I summoned Henriett, can't summon real players because I don't have PS+.

Meanwhile, this article seems to be implicitly calling me out: https://kotaku.com/bloodborne-has-clicked-for-me-and-it-only-took-four-ye-1831951256

Oleeever St. John Yogurty (Leee), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 20:24 (one year ago) link

And I just realized that my revival post didn't mention that I now have ZERO insight.

Oleeever St. John Yogurty (Leee), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 20:30 (one year ago) link

have you gone through old yarnham and hemwick yet? they're optional but leveling up may help

chihuahuau, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 22:29 (one year ago) link

I got some part of the way into Old Yarnham but the sniper annoyed me and I gave up. I know that BSB lives in OY but I didn't reach it. No Hemwick, either.

Oleeever St. John Yogurty (Leee), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 22:32 (one year ago) link

they’re fun as well!

i am v much looking forward to sekiro:shadows die twice. hoping activision hasn’t fucked with the magic.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 22:33 (one year ago) link

"as well" doesn't apply as I don't think I've enjoyed the game so far.

Oleeever St. John Yogurty (Leee), Thursday, 24 January 2019 00:22 (one year ago) link

ah yes. i meant more - as well as levelling up they are fun levels, but i can how if the general aesthetic isn’t serving you that’s not going to fly. AWAY! AWAY!

Fizzles, Thursday, 24 January 2019 06:50 (one year ago) link

agreed, if it's a slog just drop it. ciderpress otm

chihuahuau, Thursday, 24 January 2019 10:06 (one year ago) link

I loved the atmosphere of Dark Souls, which is partly what kept me going. I look forward to this one, which looks even cooler, even if I admit at my rate I won't get to it until they remaster it or something.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 January 2019 12:58 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

Should I start a new game from scratch? (Lost all of my insight to an enemy without realizing it.)

Martialarts Ali (Leee), Monday, 23 December 2019 19:29 (ten months ago) link

Nah. What do you want insight for, buying things or summoning help? If you really want more before progressing, you can try to help players beat bosses (although idk how active the game is these days).

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 23 December 2019 19:46 (ten months ago) link

Don't you need Insight to level up? I also don't have PSN so summoning isn't in the picture.

Martialarts Ali (Leee), Monday, 23 December 2019 20:28 (ten months ago) link

Nope, you only need it to summon helpers and to buy things at that one messenger bath (up top, overlooking the main one). Souls/blood echoes are used to level up.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 23 December 2019 20:35 (ten months ago) link

yeah, echoes are souls, insight is the humanity of bloodborne. it has... properties i won't spoil but i sure as hell wouldn't restart because of it

chihuahuau, Monday, 23 December 2019 21:58 (ten months ago) link

nine months pass...

OK, I think I am closer to starting this than not (which means in the next couple of months, give or take a Batman and/or Ori). Apologies in advance, since I do tend to overthink these games, if only because they are pretty big commitments, but my first big question is if it's essentially (that is, more or less) like Dark Souls. And the other (related) is if I should go in more or less blind or keep a guide handy. Now, I like to be surprised as much as the next guy, but I can say with certainty that some of my favorite parts of Dark Souls 1 & 3 I would have totally missed had I not followed any sort of guide - and in turn likely never experienced, barring a replay - and similarly there were some parts I might have *hated* had a guide not given me a heads up. So Bloodborne, is it just as frustratingly rich and varied in secrets and secret levels/bosses/weapons/skills? Would it behoove me to follow some sort of a guide, as opposed to checking out walkthroughs only when I'm stuck? I don't really want to get in a situation where I find out, a few hours in, that I can't do the awesome thing with the thing because I didn't do the thing at the beginning, which Dark Souls is rife with. Oh, and I will be playing it offline as well again, too.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 September 2020 14:35 (one month ago) link

Am I ever going to feel like a failure when you inevitably beat this!

Kaliningrad Oberst (Leee), Sunday, 27 September 2020 15:52 (one month ago) link

inevitably is a long way away

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 September 2020 16:12 (one month ago) link

-gandhi

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 September 2020 16:12 (one month ago) link

i could maybe replay this

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 27 September 2020 22:49 (one month ago) link

The format is extremely Dark Souls. One the one hand there are some good surprises that I wouldn't want spoiled, but on the other there are some secrets and quests that affect the ending (including a boss fight) that I never would have known about if I hadn't looked them up.

Maybe a good compromise is playing the first couple hours blind (unless you get stuck), and then looking up guides without shame. Nothing early affects the end.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 28 September 2020 00:48 (one month ago) link

four weeks pass...

Still hovering in pre-game research mode here (and i'm sorry, but these games do benefit from at least some basic spoiler-free research). I saw a nice guide that more or less translated each starting class into its Dark Souls equivalent, so I'm leaning toward Military Veteran (warrior) or Lone Survivor (tank knight). The problem (which is a good problem to have) is that what you pick at the start potentially plays a big role in *how* you play, and once you start allocating stats it's pretty hard to change direction mid-course. Of course, that's a good thing for replay, as there are so many variables, and, as fans of DS and this one seem prone to say, pretty much any build with any weapon can get you to the end. But some builds are definitely more forgiving at the start than others. Starting Knight in DS3 was a big help, for example, because you begin with a good weapon. In this case, it seems the way to go in the beginning is butcher saw or axe.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 18:09 (two days ago) link

bloodborne was my first souls game and used a dex build with the cane whip. dex much more viable as a starter build in bloodborne than DS i’d say (though strength builds also v good obv).

Fizzles, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:18 (two days ago) link

So that would be more Warrior/Lone Survivor, right?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:26 (two days ago) link

It's been awhile but I want to say that builds/stats are more forgiving in BB that in other Souls games. For one thing, stamina costs in general are low since the game is faster paced, so that's not a big concern.

I'd say try out the different weapons and see what you like before comitting to str or dex. And everyone's fave weapon (Ludwig's Holy Blade) can be used by either iirc.

Anyway here's everything you need to know about builds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyeUcfQI2MY

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:26 (two days ago) link

I saw that one, actually. He says ... Military Veteran plus axe, right? I also watched most of the one he did a couple of years before that, but it was a lot more complex and involved and from what I could tell focused a lot more on PVP and subsequent play-throughs, I want to say. So it seems that the game is maybe sliiiiiightly less arcade and unforgiving than Dark Souls, which allows for the learning curve of unfamiliar pacing, story, settings, enemies, names for things, and so on.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:40 (two days ago) link

Yeah, you shouldn't have to worry about optimizing your build much at all. I also didn't do any chalice dungeons until after I finished the game for the first time.

There is a specific point in the game where there are a number of branching paths, and while it may feel like you're underpowered, it's really the case that a couple of them are meant for later in the game. So, classic Dark Souls.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:13 (two days ago) link

i didn't do any chalice dungeons because they suck

i found BB harder than dark souls but still doable because of co-op. no such luck with sekiro, which is much harder than bb

you'll want an faq if you intend on seeing most of everything in a single run, josh. the obscurantism i love hasn't gone anywhere, if anything it's even more opaque than it was on DkS

probably gotg for me

chihuahuau, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 23:00 (two days ago) link

Thanks for the heads up. I'll be playing this offline, btw. Can you still summon npcs?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 23:01 (two days ago) link

yes there are a few. can't tell you if they're worth it or if they just make the fights harder, though

chihuahuau, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 23:13 (two days ago) link


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