Elden Ring: YOU DIED on a horse

Strange women dragons lying in ponds distributing swords ridership is no basis for a system of government.

oops wrong nerd thread

Reached the Ruah Ruins yesterday. Is that passage with the lift from the First Floor Storehouse to the big bridge always open or does it only open when you beat Messmer? I'd never come across it before

Ruah is pretty amazing though huh? Another absolute maze

I reached it before Messmer, if I'm thinking of the right place.

I enjoyed the underwater lair of the finger mom btw.

Yeah that's brilliant, if it's the bit I'm thinking of with the long ladder

I reached it before Messmer, if I'm thinking of the right place.

― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 August 2024 05:07 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is crazy to me. I thought I'd explored almost all of the Storehouse, but it seems I just never thought to go directly left from the first Storehouse site of grace and take the elevator down. After beating Messmer I was so confused because it led to a dead end. Online, someone told me to go back to the first Miquella's Cross and there's a note there from Leda telling me where to go.

I too just wandered into Rauh before seeing any of the rest of the storehouse. Between the base and the multi-level ruins it's the area I feel I understand the least - like I don't understand where I am or how it fits together at all.

And you keep ending up there! Like that random imbued gate early on that drops you in an odd bit of it.

i'm stuck there at the moment going round in circles.

imbued gate?

i see it as having two areas - the lower part you reach via a sort-of cavern with a large tree and perfumers; and the top part which you reach via the Storehouse (that i totally missed).

I still am 49/50 and 24/25. I decided to just roam around and see how much I could explore without resting at a grace. Cleared Castle Ensis, headed down toward the Dragon Communion, dropped into Charo, just wandering. Found some drops I'd missed (Spirit Glaive). Once the one-time-kill enemies have been eliminated, this world is very empty and peaceful in a soothing way

you've merked all the hippos, I take it?

Yep. I read on Reddit that some players have had to kill the potsmokers up to four times before they drop drop, but idk, I think I really got them all covered

Curious too as to which spirit ash I might be missing… haven’t gone down the checklist for that yet. Might be my next move, it might show me a corner of the map I overlooked

*spirit ash = you know, the Scadu fragments that upgrade them. I’m only missing one

Sometimes they disappear also, the potheads, they are unreliable. The one at Rauh on some weird middle platform I'd never have found without reading a guide, and it also disappears really quickly, as others try to aggro you.

imbued gate?

Y'all I haven't even found the Abyssal Woods yet

don’t go there woof outright lying about parrying unless parrying = waft hopelessly with your shield and die of madness immediately one thousand times

Use the buckler, it's got the most parryframes. And: they are permadead when you kill them. And: you get a grape when you do. And: one of them gives you a talisman for when you want to run a madness build

ok ok. i’ll do it. thanks fgti

you don't need to kill them, just sneak along the sides away from them or whatever. it's a tiny bit of elden ring as horizon zero dawn, hide in some bushes feeling annoyed you can't just whack the stuffing out of some minor not-even-field boss, but it's about a half-hour then you get to the manse dungeon thing.

No kill them

Totally stuck in Rauh, WTF - amazing and deadly maze. The spread between sites of grace is insane, but you can ride Torrent through huge swaths of it to push forward if you know the way. I feel I've found everything there so far, but clearly not since I'm stuck and feel I'm at a dead end near the Ruins of Rauh West site of grace

Think Carian Retaliation on any medium shield will give you same frames as (more than?) buckler. If you crank focus with armour and talismans you can tank the madness and hits and you’ve got ages to chug potions between attacks - you get 3 or 4 cracks at them before you’re a goner.

xp I agree. They should die, now

Heh I've done almost everything I could think to do in Rauh, but I only just made it to the bit where the map is.

Managed to beat the Scadutree Avatar today. Another dead end boss though... I'm sure the things he drops come in handy later

Ahhhh so. Apparently if you kill a potsmoker but then die before collecting the fragment, it’s GONE. Those bloodfiends (by the one in Moorth, in particular) have smoked me a few times and I think this is likely the reality I’m facing

really? i killed the pothead in the moorth ruins and got done by the bloodfiend (is it a bloodfiend? twirly dual wielding hairy dude anyway) before i could pick up the fragment but went back and did it again and it was ok.

Heh I've done almost everything I could think to do in Rauh, but I only just made it to the bit where the map is.

― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, August 6, 2024 11:53 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I was still not looking things up when I got to Rauh and trying to get to that map fragment was infuriating. Another 'f you Miyazaki' when I found out about lower Rauh

No kill them

If we don't learn to coexist with wildlife native to the local ecosystem, then we will lose beloved nature sites like the Abyssal Woods.

xp hah, i found the map fragment quite early by accident (can't remember the route now). i remember my friend saying "how did you manage to get all the way up there? I've been looking for ages!" - mind you, it took me ages to find the lower east fragment - I was searching all round Bayle country for it, not yet having foudn the Cerulean Coast.

I only just discovered Charros' Hidden Grave yesterday

xp
soon the only giant frenzy rats will be in zoos

Think Carian Retaliation on any medium shield will give you same frames as (more than?) buckler. If you crank focus with armour and talismans you can tank the madness and hits and you’ve got ages to chug potions between attacks - you get 3 or 4 cracks at them before you’re a goner.

― woof, Tuesday, August 6, 2024 11:28 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Further tips for killing them:

* I had to eat the first teleport knockdown every time
* don't accidentally stumble into some rats while you're killing them
* or accidentally take on 2 at once
* dried livers are handy (& in theory clarifying boluses too but am I fuck switching away from my potion when incompetently trying to parry those things)
* not a parry expert but timing seemed a little weird… earlier than you'd think compared to normal weapon wielding mobs? Maybe there just isn't a backswing->swing moment with them. I'd defer to fgti on that

I went through the list of DLC incants and sorceries to see if I was missing any, hoping that "some new area" might reveal itself. I was missing Knight's Lightning! But otherwise nothing serious. I really have no idea where this missing fragment could be.

As for parrying Old Yeller, idk, I didn't have much trouble with it? I think I just used a Golden Parry or whatever. You have to parry a little later than you'd anticipate, it needs to correspond with their swing so it's a beat after the wind-up. One note: I did parry, then miss the critical, but once parried they remain vulnerable to basic physical attacks, you don't need to crit them to kill them, if you miss the crit you can just start swinging and they'll go down

I went down the list of DLC incants and sorceries to see what I was missing. Got 'em all! except Knight's Lightning, I'd missed that one. Doesn't seem like I've missed any significant areas or anything.

Re: parrying Old Yeller, idk, I didn't have too much trouble. I died about ten times in killing the six (or seven?) of them. I think I was just using Golden Parry on them. I did find that you have to smash a little later than you'd think, ensure the parry meets their swing. One thing I did note: once parried, they're permanently vulnerable. You don't have to kill them with a crit. So, if you get the parry, but miss the crit, you can just start swinging and they'll go down.

xp
soon the only giant frenzy rats will be in zoos

lol

The Abyssal Woods used to be a place for families, picnics, hikers. Then everything changed...

The Atavist, 6,500 words.

As beautiful-but-incredibly-scary environments go, the Abyssal Woods is really top drawer

it is so bleak, i honestly couldn't spend much time there. first time i abandoned it on first encounter with those things, second time sneaked around, finished what was there and decided to never go back.

yup and especially loved getting the map fragment for AW and it just telling me 'yeah it's a big horrible area with nothing in it. go f yourself. Find your own way to this manse you've heard about'

I've only poked my head into the Abyssal Woods. I couldn't work out what was supposed to be so scary about them (compared to other parts of the game) that Torrent wouldn't come out to play. In fact they seemed kind of pretty. Then I got chased by one of those eye-head guys and died.

Maybe I'm over leveled now as I managed to beat both Bayle and Gaius in one sitting without too much trouble on each one. Looks like I'm getting to the end game now

Thanks for the tip on parrying those beholder head guys, it was a pleasure to scoff at all the messages telling me to hide in the bushes.

Midra's Manse was a fun little jaunt, I didn't expect to get one more castle for the road. I went through it with the Taunter's Tongue on, because it seemed like a pretty chill dungeon and I don't have many areas left where I can still be invaded (I think I might have missed a gaol or two though). It was a fun game to try and quickly clear out a room before an invader arrived.

Maybe I'm over leveled now as I managed to beat both Bayle and Gaius in one sitting without too much trouble on each one. Looks like I'm getting to the end game now

I turned to Fextrasuggestion for those guys, and it helped a lot. Bayle is charmingly much-easier when you are light-rolling!

The weird ish for me was that I turned back to my old-faithful Strong Anchor Jumper Lady build for Enir-Elim. The grand melee took me a few tries, but the Consort? one try. I buffed, I brought Ansbach with me, a Mimic Tear, and I killed him first try. Weird, but running Double Anchor + heavy armour and buffs is kind of unstoppable, I guess.

After reverting to a backup (just before Bayle), and coming back to Consort with my Dexitydex build, man, what a headache. It took me all evening to even make it to his second stage.

I beat Bayle first go, no real problem. Gaius maybe the hardest boss in all of Elden Ring for me, but the first time I used a shield, which was the first time I've used a shield in the entire game, I beat him.

All that said still haven't bothered doing the final Radahn fight. No real motivation now, the game is over whether I do it or not. I remember a friend saying this about the main game but I was very determined to beat the Elden beast, yet don't care now for the DLC.

Loved this silly guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vD9B8MY6jQ