I played a bit of Signalis with (which is to say, for) my nephew, seemed cool. I'll wait for a sale before I pick it up myself, though. King of pixel-gamed out, however well done.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 January 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link
chained echoes looks pretty great. it does what it looks like it does?
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 January 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link
think its just your standard one-man-project retro jrpg except its got kickstarter dev money behind it instead of being made in rpgmaker
― ciderpress, Friday, 13 January 2023 20:08 (one year ago) link
my main question for all gmaes like that is whether they've absorbed some of the newer genre developments that make the turn-based combat more clever and fun or are they still running out a 2001 FFX-era combat system. havent played this one so i dont know yet
― ciderpress, Friday, 13 January 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link
from the reviews this sounds like the former tbh, good
― ciderpress, Friday, 13 January 2023 20:16 (one year ago) link
and I've found Dragon Quest Builders 2 to be a delightful distraction.
I love this game so much but it does tip into obsessive territory for me, like thinking up plans for new buildings would keep me awake at night
Strange Horticulture was a nice few hours but I played it on Switch, which it isn't well formatted for at all, so I couldn't be bothered doing repeat play throughs even though I wanted to see where the cultist storyline branch ended up
― salsa shark, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link
That's good to know, as I've been considering getting that one.
I finally shelled out for Scarlet Hollow, though I'm not a fan of buying unfinished works - the first four chapters are fairly hefty in themselves though, and the illustrations and story are really good.
Is anyone running a games poll this year?
― emil.y, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link
DQB2 is a freebie on the ps+ so i may need to try that
would love to see a games poll but don't think i can balance it
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link
Get dqb2!! I want to see screengrabs of other people's cool buildings
― salsa shark, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link
salsa shark, how long does it take to get into the more open-ended, sandboxy elements of DQB2? I feel like I've just been stuck doing favors/quests for NPCs for hours, which is getting a little tiresome
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 19 January 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link
It’s about 100 more hours of that
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 19 January 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link
lmao oh no
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 19 January 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link
I mean, I'd just play Minecraft if Minecraft weren't so butt-ugly
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 19 January 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link
yeah, you're not selling me on it here
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 January 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link
xp if you're on pc dip a toe into the pool of minecraft shaders and make it a lot less ugly pretty quickly & painlessly
― bridge of donkeys, Thursday, 19 January 2023 18:39 (one year ago) link
Umm it's been a while since I played story mode but iirc after the first chapter you can build stuff open world style on your isle of awakening, albeit with a limited item database. You unlock more crafting options with each chapter. When you finish the story you'll have access to everything.
The way I played was to do a chapter, then a bit of building on the Isle, then another chapter and so on. I was definitely impatient for full database open world though tbh. It takes... some commitment to get there.
― salsa shark, Friday, 20 January 2023 00:10 (one year ago) link
If you haven't finished the first chapter yet I'd say stick it out til you're back on Isle of Awakening in sandbox mode to see if that refreshes you, but pretty much the whole story mode is going to be like 40h of quests and favours
― salsa shark, Friday, 20 January 2023 00:21 (one year ago) link
chained echoes looks pretty great. it does what it looks like it does?― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Friday, January 13, 2023 1:43 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglinkthink its just your standard one-man-project retro jrpg except its got kickstarter dev money behind it instead of being made in rpgmaker― ciderpress, Friday, January 13, 2023 2:08 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglinkmy main question for all gmaes like that is whether they've absorbed some of the newer genre developments that make the turn-based combat more clever and fun or are they still running out a 2001 FFX-era combat system. havent played this one so i dont know yet
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Friday, January 13, 2023 1:43 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
― ciderpress, Friday, January 13, 2023 2:08 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
My usual assumption is that these sorts of indie JRPGs will be cringey, insular, and tropey, but Chained Echoes isn't. There are mechanics thrown into the combat that make choices way more interesting and consequential than yr standard FF / DQ. I enjoyed it way more than something like Octopath Traveler tbh
― c u (crüt), Friday, 20 January 2023 23:49 (one year ago) link
octopath combat system was really good for bosses but not for repeated regular enemy encounters
― ciderpress, Friday, 20 January 2023 23:57 (one year ago) link
A JRPG where you don't grind for levels per se just periodically unlock more options would be good, like if Bravely Default II didn't have grinding for job levels…and then you wouldn't have to have trash mobs, you could just have a whole game of boss fights, which are the good part.
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 21 January 2023 00:16 (one year ago) link
that's kind of how it works in CE tbh - most of the leveling up is through quests / boss battles. there is some level of skill growth and collecting items through enemy encounters but it's not necessary at all to grind out battles
― c u (crüt), Saturday, 21 January 2023 00:23 (one year ago) link
the trails games scale exp up or down if you're below or above the correct level for your point in the game so you can't overlevel and it only takes a couple fights to catch up if you're underlevel, always liked that
― ciderpress, Saturday, 21 January 2023 00:43 (one year ago) link
i like having the trash mobs around but they should be mostly optional
― ciderpress, Saturday, 21 January 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link
Anybody else getting into Hi-Fi Rush? I've played through the first "track" and so far it's a blast. I'm normally not super into rhythm games. I could never get into Guitar Hero and the like, but this is a bit more accessible as it rewards you for being on beat but doesn't penalize you for imperfect timing.
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Friday, 27 January 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link
Also, this is maybe the best use of cel shading I've ever seen in a game; "it looks like you're playing a cartoon" has been a cliche for a while, but this game really does look like you're playing a cartoon.
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Friday, 27 January 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link
i can't play it because it's on the radical left gaming system, xbox
― Karl Malone, Friday, 27 January 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link
It's also on Steam, though it might be unplayable depending on your specs
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Friday, 27 January 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link
it looks really good but dropping without warning means i dont have time for it yet
― ciderpress, Friday, 27 January 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link
finding DQ Builders to be nice stress free stuff.
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 January 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link
finally finished trails of cold steel 3 and 4. definitely done with that series for a good long while lmao
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Friday, 27 January 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link
what's your take on Trails
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 27 January 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link
are the games, like, good to play
i love 'em but they are looooooooooooooong. the only reason i played 3 and 4 back to back is because i wanted to strike while the iron was hot. the cold steel arc has a particularly convoluted story and i'd have forgotten everything if i took a break between
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Friday, 27 January 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link
funnily enough i just finished Trails in the Sky! found it a bit slow at times but I loved the world building and the battle system got really good in the last halfthe sprite work & music gorgeous tho, a pleasure to look at/listen to for the 40+ hours I spent on it
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 27 January 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link
i'm currently 2 years deep in a break between cold steel 3 chapters whoops. i think i remember what was happening pretty well though, i hadn't gotten to the real escalation yet
― ciderpress, Friday, 27 January 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link
diamonddave85 how was Cold Steel 4 compared to the others?I played 1-3 and really liked 1 but felt 2 & 3 were diminishing returns
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 27 January 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link
if I ever dip into this I will probably try the first of the "Crossbell Arc" games, which is on Switch now
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 27 January 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link
that ones less of a clean entry point than sky or cold steel, as the sky protagonists show up and complete the final bit of their character arc that was left hanging
― ciderpress, Friday, 27 January 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link
the sprite work & music gorgeous tho, a pleasure to look at/listen to for the 40+ hours I spent on it
TITS 1&2 are my favorites, 3 seems to be a fan favorite but it didn't do too much for me
how was Cold Steel 4 compared to the others
hard to say since i played 3/4 back to back and got pretty exhausted about halfway through 4. it brings together all of the arcs and certain things were really special and others were not so successful. i also found altina (thors branch uniform + circle shades for lyf) discovering her humanity to be very touching.
i'd say if you've already played 1-3 might as well play 4
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Friday, 27 January 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link
also lol at kurt still being a boring dork while altina and juna figure out how to be cool
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Friday, 27 January 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link
i basically love the first game of every arc and think the 2nd is okay. they're consistently good at writing the rising tension parts of the stories but clumsy about raising the stakes imo
― ciderpress, Friday, 27 January 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link
― ciderpress, Friday, January 27, 2023 10:15 AM (six minutes ago)
trouble is I don't think I am gonna start with TitS unless it all comes to Switch (or conceivably, eventually, PS5?), I read at least one review that was like "you can start with this and the TitS connections will not completely throw off your experience" so it seems somewhat reasonable
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 27 January 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
yeah sure, outside of that one continuing bit its a new cast with their own story
also silby if you were asking about the actual gameplay: it starts off pretty basic but fundamentally sound in sky and then they add a new mechanic or two every game. the combat is on a grid (or a continuous plane in cold steel) but it still feels mostly like standard jrpg combat and not tactics, with the upside of making AoE moves/spells more interesting due to having different shapes/sizes.
characters have customizable spell loadouts kinda like FF7 materia or whatever that use MP, and then character-specific moves that use a separate fighting game style meter that goes up over time as you fight. you can spend 100% meter to do a big super move with a long animation, as in all good games.
― ciderpress, Friday, 27 January 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link
Very interested in the Trails games but it seems like... a lot to start
― Nhex, Friday, 27 January 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link
sfw visual novel
― CerebralCaustic, Friday, 27 January 2023 18:39 (one year ago) link
― Nhex, Friday, January 27, 2023 1:36 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
trails in the sky is a low spec pc game from 2004 thats often on sale for 5 or 10 bucks, probably the best one to try if you have a PC. you'll learn pretty quickly whether you like the series' long-winded approach to story and worldbuilding
― ciderpress, Friday, 27 January 2023 18:47 (one year ago) link
anyway, i started yakuza kiwami, speaking of long series. despite repping for yakuza 0 on here a bunch that was the only one i've played to date, correcting this now
― ciderpress, Friday, 27 January 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link
I always knew I would need a pallet (no pun intended) cleanser after TLOU2, so I think I'm going to zip through "Guardians of the Galaxy," which I've surprisingly heard many good things about (often in reviews that begin along the lines of "you will be surprised to hear that GotG is good"). At the least I heard it was gorgeous to look at, so much so that Digital Foundry recommended playing it in fidelity mode rather than performance, and sacrificing 60fps for 30fps to get the most out of the space-scapes. Then again, they are really, really into stuff like ray tracing.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 January 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I found it a fun, fairly breezy experience and it's totally fine at 30fps on PS5 compared to e.g. Spider-Man or Demon's Souls where the tradeoff just isn't worth it
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 28 January 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link
TITS 1&2 are my favorites
― circa1916, Saturday, 28 January 2023 16:16 (one year ago) link