that's the OG way of reaching the Plateau, fuck that big lift
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 7 April 2022 08:26 (two years ago) link
Admittedly, I've done both now (although I cheated with the lift, looking up a guide). I keep saying it, but there is so much in this game that is "How the hell would I know to do that?"
I suppose the idea, for true hardcore players, is that you're not meant to rush through it in under 200 hours, but play in a slow, exploratory way, circling back on yourself, going back to speak to NPCs from way earlier in the game, keeping fastidious notes about the lore and the various side quests, reading every item description and noting even the most oblique references.
Or you can use loads of online guides, check every message and bloodstain, and still have a rip-roaring time. I don't like quests ending for no apparent reason though. Still salty about Edgar.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 April 2022 09:31 (two years ago) link
Did you ever go back to his castle and see if he was still there waiting for his sword? He was for me
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 7 April 2022 09:53 (two years ago) link
So this Ilj giant blacksmith guy… I was rushing up towards the manor, picked up a site of grace along the way, then carried on to the manor, blue stuff fell from the sky, next site of grace, enter manor, got attacked by hands, screamed, killed a hand, died to a hand, repeat several times.
Eventually backtracked to that site of grace I'd picked up on the way and he was just sitting there… I thought 'how did I miss you?' but I assumed I'd just been dopey on my earlier panic run. So all this about him being behind a wall… feels like something strange is going on.
(In the end I just ran past all the hands. And ran past the transparent magic soldiers. Running past things is so effective!)
― woof, Thursday, 7 April 2022 11:34 (two years ago) link
xp to Trayce
Did you ever go back to his castle and see if he was still there waiting for his sword? He was for me― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, April 7, 2022 10:53 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, April 7, 2022 10:53 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yeah I went there but he wasn't there. Then I went to where Irina had been and she was dead. No explanation, no nothing
Another broken thing: I've been asked to give a potion to Nepheli. I find her in the Village of Albinaurics but there's no option to give it to her. I am getting a bit sick of stuff like this happening constantly. I'm assuming I haven't done something in the right order, but does it have to be so fussy??
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:33 (two years ago) link
woof, so other than there being a non descript building on the map, there's nothing to say the Manor exists because it too is behind the wall / up a tall cliff. So how are people just heading there? You don't get to the blue sparks, Iji or the hands without traversing the wall in the Kingsrealm Ruins. Or do you?
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:36 (two years ago) link
― Fizzles, Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:38 (two years ago) link
Same, I just saw the building on the map and ran towards it. I beat up a few vanishing magic aristocrats in the ruins before the Ilj site of grace. Maybe I/they hit a vanishing wall? But everything just seemed pretty obvious tbh
― woof, Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:45 (two years ago) link
I think I was coming from the Northern Liurnia Lake Shore SoG
― woof, Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:48 (two years ago) link
Dl, she should be back at the roundtable hold somewhere? Not that it's intuitive or like I didn't mess it up myself. My hat is off to anyone who completes an npc quest without a guide (although Ranni's seems pretty foolproof, thankfully).
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:50 (two years ago) link
She was standing there in the Village and repeating the same dialogue line when I spoke to her. Again, I had to look up a guide and it said I first have to beat a boss, sending her back to the Roundtable and then speak to her. But again, this seems convoluted - I'm doing what the game is asking me to do and yet it's super fussy about doing everything in just the right order
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 April 2022 13:01 (two years ago) link
woof, yep North Liurnia Lake Shore. Might be worth seeing if you can just ride through the Ruins, if so you must have hit that wall and opened it. I haven't seen a main path.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 April 2022 13:05 (two years ago) link
what i'm saying is, there is no main path up to the Manor as far as I know. It's up a cliff. If you go directly from the grace point, you get to Kingsrealm Ruins which look like a total dead end because of the wall. So I'm guessing youse must have hit the wall or rolled into it or something. I'd be interested to see if the wall is still there for you (if you go to the site of grace near Iji, it is directly behind you)
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 April 2022 13:09 (two years ago) link
update, I had a little poke about, and there is another section to get round the wall on the other side, but you still need to jump with Torrent - it is a bit more obvious. I'm gonna shut up about it now :-)
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 April 2022 13:12 (two years ago) link
re: if Ranni's quest is foolproof, then I'm a fool. Blaidd is kind enough to reintroduce himself, and I'm grateful for that even though he's easy to remember. He tells me to meet him in Murkwood where I originally found him so we can go down to Selia. But looks like he's disappeared off somewhere too.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 April 2022 13:13 (two years ago) link
nah he wants you to meet him way down in the hole
― adam, Thursday, 7 April 2022 13:20 (two years ago) link
I thought as much. Typical that he's one of the few charcters who tells you where he hangs out but he's not even there
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 April 2022 13:32 (two years ago) link
Haha, DL I’m curious as to what you’re seeing with the Ilj and Caria Manor issues. Don’t recall any obstacles keeping me from them, but it’s been a minute since I was there.Not sure if it’s relevant in this case, but in ruins, particularly ones with higher walls, it’s generally a good idea to hop around on Torrent. There are some cases where there are goodies stashed away that are difficult to see or even get to on foot.
― circa1916, Thursday, 7 April 2022 14:11 (two years ago) link
Unrelated, but I recently found you can get on top of those big mechanical flame head dudes and attack them for a more/less instant kill. Looks tricky to get up there, but I’ve seen vids of people launching themselves off torrent onto them. Wish I knew that earlier!
― circa1916, Thursday, 7 April 2022 14:15 (two years ago) link
"Seek the Lasklyar Ruins in the west of Lake Liurnia". Okay, fine, thanks for being fairly specific. Head west, no ruins. Anywhere. Concede and look it up. They're int he South East. Come on Elden Ring, you're reaching now
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 April 2022 14:18 (two years ago) link
Thi si the video of the wall I'm talking about from the North Lirunia Gracepoint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOUzt5dXrAs
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 April 2022 14:19 (two years ago) link
Do yous know there is also a nasty rabid poisonous boss hidden in a hole in the west side of those ruins by Iji? You have to roll on it to reveal the staircase.
It's a huge pain in the ass unless you have access to Holy damage in which case it's lol
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 7 April 2022 14:30 (two years ago) link
Yeah I found that boss while messing about in the ruins for ages trying to work out why they were there. So I'm quite surprised I found that, but couldn't get past the wall which is stupid and I hate so much
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 April 2022 14:36 (two years ago) link
It took me an embarassingly long time to realize that they're being driven by a normal dude in the back, and taking him out kills the whole caboodle.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 7 April 2022 14:37 (two years ago) link
I was having a good time going through the northern Mountaintops of the Giants last night with the Taunter's Tongue on. It was much more chill meeting invaders, exchanging greetings, and having fights as I went than dealing with a host and their two level 200 friends.
Lost 80k runes because I forgot to pick them up while doing a Volcano Manor quest, oops.
So far I haven't felt a difficulty spike, except for when I wandered into a graveyard with a giant OP deathbird and a respawning giant skeleton, ran out of there as fast as I could.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 7 April 2022 14:40 (two years ago) link
Haha, now I'm bumping into lots of NPCs who are telling me things I already worked out few pure flukes and guesswork ages ago. Better late than never I guess, but it might answer a lot of my "How would I even know to do this?" questions :-)
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 April 2022 14:54 (two years ago) link
Yeah, I admit to only half paying attention to what NPC's are telling me and basically looking up quests, so I imagine going strictly by in-world direction would be more than a little maddening.
It's nigh impossible to grasp the majority of the stuff in these games on your own. Willfully designed for a kind of community participation in figuring things out. Most directly evidenced by the player message system. Irritating to some, but I kinda love that shit. I have group texts going with friends about this game, sharing tips/secrets, and it very much reminds me of some the conversations I had as a kid about the games we were playing.
Also I either bypassed that wall or it had a bunch of signs on the ground in front of it so I plowed through without even clocking it.
― circa1916, Thursday, 7 April 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link
Yup yup. It is a very much online game and that's part of the fun of it I suppose
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 7 April 2022 16:56 (two years ago) link
Elden Ring confessions:
-I can never tell the "replenish your flasks" scarabs from the "give you a cool ash of war" scarabs. I assume there's some sort of visual indicator?
-When I pick up an item I just google it to read the description, rather than bother to find it in my inventory.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 7 April 2022 17:46 (two years ago) link
*whispers*
Elden Ring Confessions!
i have never summoned a real person or been invaded or invaded someone else or helped anyone else
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 April 2022 18:12 (two years ago) link
i am too afraid
confessions!
The flask ones are red or blue, and the ash ones are white. The colors are pale though, so I have definitely mistaken the blue & white ones.
I'm stuck on the Magma Wyrm fight at Volcano Manor now. My go-to weapon is usually Moonveil, but since dragons have resistance to slash & pierce damage, I've been trying to use a mace with dragonwound grease on it, with very little success.
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 7 April 2022 18:12 (two years ago) link
Co-op is so much fun, KM! You should do it!
I've never played MMOS or anything like that, so the whole experience is pretty novel to me of being able to just bonk on monsters with a bunch of randos.
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 7 April 2022 18:14 (two years ago) link
Yeah! Maybe I posted this already but at the dungeon you find in the Capital sewers, I was so exhausted by exploring the huge area that I decided to summon a random person to go through it. I couldn't believe what a perfect guide they were -- they had clearly been through it themselves, they showed me every secret in the place, stopped to let me get items, used gestures appropriately, and were generally a delight.
Not how I would want to play through the entire game, but it was a nice break from painstaking solo exploration.
and the ash ones are white
Ah, ty! I'll have to pay more attention.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 7 April 2022 18:19 (two years ago) link
TIL some of the scarabs drop ashes of war :|
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 7 April 2022 22:55 (two years ago) link
Dammit Donnie now I gotta go back and find them.
so i rerolled a new character, because of course, and the second playthrough is going much quicker. 8 hours in i defeated godrick, which i think is about 42 hours quicker than my first run. i was putting down a sign afterwards to coop with people on godrick and was summoned by someone called A Nice Guy who drops 99 hero's rune 5's which is what, 3.5 million runes? who then waves and severs me back
― bridge of donkeys, Friday, 8 April 2022 00:50 (two years ago) link
Haha wow, they must have used a dupe glitch
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2022 00:54 (two years ago) link
So, the fact Ive visited a lot of spots without killing anyone much seems to be biting me in the arse.
I have defeated the Knight at Carian Manor, but when I went up the hill Ranni was not in her seat in the tower. Ive read some things that say it happened if you didnt meet her at the start but I did of course. I also spoke to Blaidd... i dont know what Ive done or not done here :/ Ive been to Redmane castle, Blaidd's spot in mistwood, but not fought any of those bad guys. Please dont tell me I have to beat Radahn before it will progress cos I swear I will off myself.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 8 April 2022 03:56 (two years ago) link
Hmmm, did you end up beating Loretta?
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2022 04:02 (two years ago) link
Yes thats who I meant by Knight, soz. Ive beat Loretta, gone thry the new wall up to Rannis rise, up to the top room and shes not there.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 8 April 2022 04:05 (two years ago) link
Some reddit threads suggest this happens if you killed her or Blaidd on accident, which I didnt. but I have been to redmane castle and done nothing in it so I dunno if that did something?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 8 April 2022 04:06 (two years ago) link
Oh weird. Are you sure you're not in, uh, Renna's Rise?
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2022 04:08 (two years ago) link
Oh man, the internet does seem to indicate killing Radahn, but you would hence to do that anyway to continue in her quest. Maybe use the fgti scarlet rot & run away method?
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2022 04:10 (two years ago) link
Ive only got scarlet rot in pots! Ha I guess I can see how I go.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 8 April 2022 04:11 (two years ago) link
Oh well in that case you might want to try some other methods first. He's really not that bad, aside from the meteors. :) And it comes with summoning included.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2022 04:18 (two years ago) link
Ooh i saw a youtube wth a good trick for the metor bit. I wonder if i can make it work.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 8 April 2022 04:24 (two years ago) link
Radahn got nerfed in the last big patch, much less of a major roadblock than he was. I got him in a few tries with my second character. Was definitely not a few tries the first time around.
― circa1916, Friday, 8 April 2022 04:39 (two years ago) link
Just hauling around on Torrent and hitting every summon sign did most of the work.
― circa1916, Friday, 8 April 2022 04:41 (two years ago) link