PS.. is it 5? I think we're on 5 now. PS5

No, I agree. It feels weird to not only get it at msrp but with a substantial discount. And delivered!

There's a Kotaku headline that reads "The PlayStation 5 Got Some Great Games In 2021 But Not Much Else." Did it even get many great games? Not that many great exclusives, I know that much. Even if it was easy to buy and at a lower price I don't have reason to upgrade my PS4 yet. All the stuff on my radar - God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, Elden Ring - has been announced for PS4 as well. I wonder, given the scarcity of the system, if its availability will sort itself out by the time it *does* get a wave of great exclusives.

as i've pointed out a million times, other than bloodborne all the big PS4 games came out in 2017 or later

which would be the equivalent of 2024 or later for PS5

No, you're absolutely right. But how long did it take for Playstation to stop producing games that worked on the PS4 *and* PS3? Did they keep releasing dual compatibility games for a long while? I wonder if PS is stressing that new title dual compatibility because it's so hard to get a PS5? Like, maybe they're afraid to release their potential blockbusters on a system that no one can buy (even though people are apparently buying it, though I assume that may be kind of like concerts selling out immediately and then tickets appearing on the secondary market the next day).

Iirc, a couple of those upcoming big titles were assumed to be PS5 exclusives, and that news they would be out for PS4 too came as pleasant surprises.

cross-gen games usually take 2 years to go away for AAA and first party stuff but maybe it'll be longer this time due to the console shortage

longer for japanese games especially with the localization delay added in e.g. persona 5 and yakuza 0 are both PS3 games that came out in english in 2017

Totally forgot those were PS3-era! crazy. like GTA V

atlus will definitely release their PS4 game in 2025

So Bloodborne aside, what was the first big must-have AAA game that was PS4 exclusive?

Uncharted 4 came out in May 2016.

yeah it was that or FF15 in late 2016 depending on your proclivities

i guess it depends on whether you mean exclusive to playstation or exclusive to the new consoles

Exclusive to new Playstation is what I'm thinking. That is, a reason to get a Playstation specifically rather than just a new console/PC, period. Like, are the new Xboxes hard to get? I guess not, because I think I can order one on Amazon right now.

Spiderman 2 is the actual answer for what the first big PS5-only game is going to be. i think it's due out in 2023

the cheaper xbox model is easier to get than a PS5, the full-on one is about the same deal i think

i did a tally of what, with PS+, I'll be immediately playing on the PS5 (coming today theoretically!):
Demon Souls
Spider Morales
Bugsnax
Astro’s Playroom
Subnautica (upgraded)
Control (upgraded)
Maquette
Maneater
Overcooked
Destiny 2
Plague Tale
Oddworld: Soulstorm
Mortal Shell (upgraded)
Radiohead game
Elden Ring (Late February)

Equally, or maybe even more interesting, I'll have access to an extensive digital PS4 library that should hopefully instaload once I put everything on an external 5tb drive:
Absolver
Abzu
Alien Isolation
Binding of Isaac
Bioshock Collection
Bioshock Infinite
Bloodborne
Broken Age
Celeste
Dark Souls 2
Dark Souls 3
Day of the Tentacle Remastered
Grim Fandango Remastered
Days Gone
Dead Cells
Dead Nation
Dead Rising 2
Death Stranding
Divinity: Original Sin
Doom
Dragon Quest 11
Enter the Gungeon
Everybody’s Gone to the Rapture
Fez
Final Fantasy VII Remake
Final Fantasy XV
Firewatch
Flower
Furi
God of War
God of War III
Hitman 2
Hohokum
Hollow Knight
Horizon Chase Turbo
Horizon Zero Dawn
Inside
Invisible Inc
Jackbox Party Pack
Journey
Just Cause 3 and 4
Last of Us
Limbo
Lumo
Mega Man Legacy
Metal Gear Solid 5
Mortal Kombat X
Nier: Autonoma
Nioh
Outer Wilds
Pac Man Championship Edition 2
Persona 5
Pixeljunk Shooter Ultimate
Pyre
Rayman Legends
Red Dead 2
Rez Infinite
Rocket League
Salt and Sanctuary
Sekiro
Shadow of Mordor
Shadow of Tomb Raider
Shadow of the Colossus
Sniper Elite 4
Sonic Mania
Sound Shapes
Spelunky
Spider Man
Steamworld Dig
Super Meat Boy
Tearaway Unfolded
Thumper
Titan Souls
Transistor
Uncharted 4
Uncharted Collection
Until Dawn
Valkyria Chronicles
What Remains of Edith Finch
Wipeout Collection
Witcher 3
The Witness
XCom 2
Yakuza 0
Yoku’s Island Express

My next on deck list:
Nioh 2
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim
Returnal
Disco Elysium
Psychonauts 2

And the maybes:
Ghost of Tsushima
Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart
Deathloop
Chicory
Cyberpunk 2077
Last of Us 2
Shovel Knight
Doom Eternal
Ni No Kuni 2
Dark Souls Remastered
Last of Us 2

presuming the upscaling and the drastically reduced loadtimes are real, i think it'll be worth it. TBRR, this is all about elden ring tho.

ohhhhhhhh elden ring

ni no kuni 2 wasn't very good sadly, you can feel the exact moment where they ran out of dev time and had to copy&paste/palette swap their way into a full length game, and it's only like 10-15 hours in

That was my take on the first one, I had heard it improved? Guess not.

You held out on Last of Us 2?? yeah i guess it was "controversial" but a masterpiece imo

that's next for me after dark souls 2.

TLOU2, the game so nice forks listed it twice.

(Also, yay Chicory! Although that just got announced for Switch, too.)

Some PS4 games on my radar as possible PS5 purchases:

Heavenly Bodies: A nice couch co-op option.
Solar Ash: Journey meets Jet Set Radio?
Chorvs: The space combat seems fun.
Death's Door: Play as a tough little goth crow in this Zelda-like.
Rider's Republic: I enjoyed the demo for this.
Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy: Everyone I know who's played it has liked it more than they thought they would.
TOEM (PS5 only): Seems like it might be the "A Short Hike" of this year? Short but adorable and memorable. "Chicory"'s also a contender in that department.

My bf bought himself a PS5, so far this is the only game that has caught my attention: Stray

Yeah, Is that the cat one? I could have sworn there a couple of cat video games coming out. both looked pretty good. This one is also coming out on PS4!

Ooh, what's the other cat one, do you remember? (This is a cat one too, yes.)

I am a new PS4 owner and I enjoyed to buy God Of War for $10 today

I will not play it until I complete Bloodborne though

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB6eEYtfVsw

As it happens, i never got through the first Last of Us. I love the attempt to get better writing and voice acting but the naughty dog playstyle somehow never clicked for me.

So far, the speed and clarity of the system are impressive. Demons Souls holds up well and is just as frustrating as remembered.

Time to break this down for those who are complaining:

Simply put--- The chip shortage/ Scalping/fast selling of the systems are causing Sony to make more PS4 PROS in order to still allow consumers to play most of the new games that are coming out in the mean time. 1/2

— DBGTX🐝🇩🇴 (@DBGTX_YT) January 12, 2022

Well, no not quite. They're not making more Pro models, those were discontinued at the start of 2021 and they're not coming back. The only PS4 model they still produce is the 500GB Slim, and that's still going to be the case. I don't think they're even accelerating production on those, they're just postponing the discontinuation, which was going to be some time in 2022 and now isn't.

Got myself a fancy OLED telly but now I kind of want a PS5 of course. Looks like I'll have to wait.

Some stock around at the moment (especially if you are - or know - a BT broadband customer):

https://www.independent.co.uk/extras/indybest/gadgets-tech/video-games-consoles/ps5-uk-stock-restock-today-b1991314.html

wonder if this is gonna extend the period of cross-gen games for an extra year or two over usual. in past cycles we'd be getting the first big PS5-only games next holiday season

Put me down as a vote for this system. A 5 tb external drive allows for like 250 ps4 games, which is most of what I have been playing. The load speed and lack of “loading updates” bullshit, the speed of access to the shop and video, the quality of the joystick and the general polish on every game has made this well worth the purchase.

“Finished” demons souls and moved on to dark souls but I got guardians of the galaxy and think I might switch over to that because I am getting fromsoft life burn in where I am considering rolling down the subway steps

You like the controller? I'm genuinely considering installing the PS4 version of Elden Ring on PS5 just so I can use the old controller. :/ New one seems so heavy and forward-balanced, hard to hold without gripping in my small hands.

Note that I often play video games while on an exercise bike, which I grant is atypical.

i am not into guardians of the galaxy at all, the controls are about as responsive as an assassin's creed game and it seems to be mostly corridor walking with puzzles designed for cretins.

also, video game writing, there's a lot of it in GOTG and it's bad.

i was confused by how many people were giving that one the 'no its actually good' treatment. i dont believe it for a second

I’m usually a PC gamer—I haven’t owned a console since PS2—but bought a used PS4 Pro so I could play Finally Fantasy VII Remake and Ghost of Tsushima. (I didn’t think I had a chance to get a 5, and didn’t want to wait for some indeterminate date until they might be more available). I couldn’t believe that thing: even after thoroughly cleaning the fan and unit, it was as loud as a hair dryer on medium at all times. I had to play exclusively with headphones to block the noise, and even with the home office door closed, my partner could hear it from the apartment kitchen. I kept it for maybe a month before selling it and lucking out on a PS5 invite. So even though I’ve so far mostly played upgraded versions of PS4 games, it’s been a vast improvement: completley silent and quick. Though I did feel a bit guilty that I, someone who doesn’t care very much about consoles, got one while diehard gamers didn’t.

forks I definitely think you should play the first half of DS1 and then enjoy the entirety DS3, I am flipping out about how good it is

Lol I have played and “beaten” every fromsoft game at least once and most twice already. Just warming up for elden ring.

I do like the new joystick though I can’t imagine using it while biking!

Sorry to hear that Guardians may have been oversold. Will report back.

But yes, ds3 is a spectacular experience and I walk around in some of those dungeons in my mind in lieu of counting sheep at night.

Looks like even BT have run out!

I'm still shopping for a new USB external for my PS5 - any recommendations? I'm worried about future regret buying an external non-SSD, but damn those SSDs are so much more expensive. Still baffled why people would buy 1TB internal SSD replacements for a tiny increase over the 875GB built-in.

Also, I have access to Demon's Souls and Dark Souls on my seventh-generation consoles. Am I much better off buying the remasters to jump in or is it basically OK just play them on the PS3/Xbox? (Or should I jump to Bloodborne/new entries, screw it?)

The remasters are pretty and 60fps, but honestly there's nothing wrong with the originals. I played Demon's on PS3 (which I borrowed specifically for the occasion) and thought it looked great, but I'm easily satisfied when it comes to graphics.

I guess the main difference will be online play, because PS3 Demon's Souls servers no longer exist, and I can't imagine anyone is playing the non-remastered version of Dark Souls online (if that's even possible).

Is online play a big part of the experience? I thought these were primarily masocore single player action games