i don't make too much of an effort keep my finger on the pulse of the world of video gaming but judging by what i've been hearing on the internet basically everyone
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 11 December 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link
I'm about 2 hours in and enjoying it! Gameplay wise it's totally Deus Ex + GTA but it doesn't look like its advanced the genre or anything, it just seems a good example of a AAA game. They do the ray tracing of having lots of shiny surfaces and fog, but they do look REALLY fancy. THe hype is too high but I'm enjoying it for what it is.
On my OK-but-not-great PC (6600k/2060) it runs kinda bad? I think the CPU is the bottleneck but on medium at 1080p with RT and DLSS I can just about make 30fps. I've had one mission glitch out and I had to load an earlier save to get through, and there's the odd hilarious glitch of people walking through walls or cars appearing from below the tarmac or whatever. Definitely better shape than when Skyrim dropped and I played the hell out of that so maybe being old has just got me used to harsher times and kids today don't know how good they've got it, they've never had to configure AUTOEXEC.BAT to get the sound card working grumble grumble.
― closed beta (NotEnough), Friday, 11 December 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
i really enjoyed this article
https://www.pastemagazine.com/games/shadowrun/shadowrun-review/
xxp to goole
we played a lot of r talsorian cyberpunk 2020 and shadowrun as teenagers, i still have first editions of each in my roleplaying game bookcase. you are otm, both are super campy and full of dumb slang and silly attempts to be edgy. we totally always played both for yuks, but i think we played a lot more cyberpunk (judging from the condition of the book) probably because it was more campy than shadowrun.
the system wasn't that bad especially compared to shadowrun's dice pools which made absolutely no sense. it was so quick and dirty and easy to understand, i mean you can sum in the entire system pretty much in a parenthetical (d10 + stat + skill vs difficulty level of 5/10/15/20/25/30)
― the late great, Friday, 11 December 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
sum up*
they've never had to configure AUTOEXEC.BAT to get the sound card working grumble grumble
lmao
― the late great, Friday, 11 December 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link
i remember spending like an entire week downloading ultima vii on a dialup connection. that shit was like a dozen 3.5 floppies!
― the late great, Friday, 11 December 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link
Cyberpunk 2020 was fine when it came out in 1988. By the mid-90s yeah, it would be dated both mechanically and in it's cheesy aesthetic. But it captured the vibe of the pulpy cyberpunk stuff like Hardwired really well.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 11 December 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link
i played part of a cyberpunk 2020 campaign earlier this year. it was pretty fun, but then i got into a big fight with the GM and blew it up
― Karl Malone, Friday, 11 December 2020 22:10 (three years ago) link
honestly, though, i thought i would be really pumped up to play 2077, and maybe i'm letting too much of the negative reviews/bugs stuff influence me, but i am in no mood to play it right now
― Karl Malone, Friday, 11 December 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link
then i got into a big fight with the GM and blew it up
couldn't agree who got dong 1 and who got dong 2 huh
― worzel scampidge (||||||||), Friday, 11 December 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link
i have pdfs of all the shadowrun and cyberpunk books; if that's anyone's madeleine, ilx mail me and i'll pass them along
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 December 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link
for some reason, the thing i got most obsessed with as a kid with cyberpunk was the monomolecular garrote where it spools in your knuckle and you pop off your fingertip to pull it out. i thought that was the COOLEST
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 December 2020 22:23 (three years ago) link
forks are you aware of THE TROVE
― the late great, Friday, 11 December 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link
well i am now! how are they not getting c+d letters every day?
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 December 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link
idk i figure either some kind of pirate bay-esque "our server is in international waters on an oil platform" type fuckery or maybe the $$$ lost in pirating dnd books is just real small potatoes
― the late great, Friday, 11 December 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link
just like the pirate bay they tend to go down for a few weeks every so often before they find a new host with an even more obscure top level domain
― the late great, Friday, 11 December 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link
it's a ridiculous collection, even on a cursory look around
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 December 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link
yes it's very comprehensive!
― the late great, Friday, 11 December 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link
at a base level it's just odd CDPR went this direction after the witcher. who wanted this?
I want a cool cyberpunk (note lowercase) RPG! But as my luck would have it, CDPR were the ones to develop it. :(
― Stone Cold Steve Ostentatious (Leee), Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link
The Shadowruns were pretty well received, no? I only started playing the first one and it seemed solid.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:24 (three years ago) link
oh wow lg thanks for the tip, hours of fun in there
― goole, Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link
full of dumb slang and silly attempts to be edgy.
i'm trying to remember all the fake words for "dude," "fuck" and "cocaine" that these games came up with now
― goole, Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:41 (three years ago) link
every major studio with a big open world fantasy franchise has to also have a big open world sci-fi franchise and vice versa so it was only a matter of time
― ✖, Saturday, 12 December 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link
There is a cyberpunk book bundle at the moment for what it's worth
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/cyberpunk-r-talsorian-books
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 12 December 2020 03:20 (three years ago) link
the driving is ridiculous, in a good way for me. Like sometimes I'll turn on GTA for 15 minutes just to cruise around and die. So yknow often I'll stop solid many times in collisions. In this game you can basically hit a car at speed and go under its wheels.And then I found another car that just went right through all the other cars. Yeah pretty buggy.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 12 December 2020 03:29 (three years ago) link
GTA but more RPG-like: i didn't have the toughness stats to steal the magic car, but i could still shoot the guy and take it
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 12 December 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link
Just gave it a quick test run on PS4 and while I haven't encountered any noticeable glitches, this comes across slightly unfinished, rough round the edges and overall a bit of a hot mess
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Saturday, 12 December 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link
There's something a bit hackneyed about the aesthetic too. I get that this is "cyberpunk" but so far it's not exactly a twist on an old favourite, rather I can't work out if it's meant to be parodic or not
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Saturday, 12 December 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link
its an adaptation of a specific tabletop rpg from the 80s that as ppl said upthread was already hackneyed at the time
― ciderpress, Saturday, 12 December 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link
― goole
sounds like you got brain burned from too much wizz, choomba!
― the late great, Saturday, 12 December 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link
― pomenitul
yeah i started shadowrun returns (2013) and it was pretty good!
i have no idea why i'm even considering a stadia subscription tbh i haven't finished a video game since borderlands 1 (and the last one i even came close to finishing before that was bioshock 1)
― the late great, Saturday, 12 December 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link
early returns on this seem dire both in this thread and elsewhere; I am writing it off at least until i get a PS5
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 December 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link
the subreddit for this game is kind of hilarious rn
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, 12 December 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
Are we talking bugs or peppy true believers struggling to keep it positive
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 12 December 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link
holy shit @ some of the screenshots: https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodiumCyberpunk/comments/kbptgt/its_mind_blowing_how_great_the_game_looks_in_4k/
― lukas, Saturday, 12 December 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link
Whut
― calstars, Saturday, 12 December 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link
Are we talking bugs or peppy true believers struggling to keep it positive― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, December 12, 2020 1:30 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, December 12, 2020 1:30 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
terms like 'betrayal' are coming up frequently
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, 12 December 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link
details matter cd projekt needs to do better
C'mon @CyberpunkGame, of all the bugs, this is the worst! There may be some canon reason why German manhole covers are used in Night City. But, please, DIN B125 is only allowed approved for pedestrian walkways. On roads, it should be a Begu D400 to support the weight! pic.twitter.com/i3nl0bn0vF— Wintermute (@ClipperChip) December 11, 2020
― lag∞n, Saturday, 12 December 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link
from a great distance, eurogamer review seemed likely the most honest one i've seenhttps://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-12-10-cyberpunk-2077-review-intoxicating-potential-half-undermined-half-met
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 13 December 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link
it's almost as if they should have delayed it's release to kill the bugs
*ducks*
― Two Meter Peter (Ste), Monday, 14 December 2020 10:21 (three years ago) link
“There seem to only be a handful of items to be found in Cyberpunk 2077's world: playing cards, alcohol, junk food, and an absolute sea of dildos.”
― circa1916, Monday, 14 December 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link
so is it worth getting a refund on the base PS4 version, or better to just wait out for updates and patches? i just wonder if the game mechanics themselves will be improved, or if all they're going to do is to prevent it crashing and glitching? so far, the whole thing feels really unfinished
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Monday, 14 December 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link
I have a feeling the last gen releases aren’t going to get much better, performance wise. But I believe those with a PS4 version can upgrade it for free to the PS5 version whenever that’s officially released. If that matters to you.Seems like there’s plenty to bitch about unrelated to bugs or performance issues. Like the car stuff is apparently pretty crappy. And car traffic has basically non-existent AI. Like you can shoot at people’s cars and they don’t really react. And they look like they’re tethered together like train cars going along a track. They also awkwardly pivot along a center axis. Cops apparently just “warp in” when you commit a crime. Pedestrian AI appears comically rough too. For a game that’s all about immersion, there’s a lot breaking it.
― circa1916, Monday, 14 December 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link
yeah... i mean, i can forgive bugs and glitches so long as they're not game-breaking and they get fixed with updates... but from the very beginning (and bear in mind i've played it all of 90 minutes) there's already a feeling that something's off.
the UI is fiddly. tiny boxes vs an over-sensitive cursor means i have trouble clicking on the thing i want it to. yet at other times it doesn't seem to respond to what i press until i hit the button for the third time. i also experienced some drift in the menu sections which i don't on other games. as well as this, there's a fuzzy, slightly flashy quality to the menu borders that gives me a headache whenever i try to read any of the netrunner emails.
NPCs don't seem to respond in any sort of realistic way. in Witcher 3, people jump out the way, or spit, curse, make remarks etc. here, you can walk right up to someone and breathe in their face and they'll continue idling away in their animation loop, dead eyed and doing nothing. you have to be exactly the right distance away to initiate a "talk" option, and it doesn't always seem to work.
the short amount of time i was in a car was horrible. a ridiculous amount of acceleration but handles really strangely and unlike anything i've played in other games.
really, it's as though the fundamental details haven't been drilled down on at all. there's certainly a plan of a game here, but it's entirely surface-level and feels like an undeveloped industry demo. i'm not expecting better graphics (they could be less headache inducing, mind), but just a similar level of detail to Witcher or GTA would be great.
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Monday, 14 December 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link
It is absolutely 100% a proof of the power of built-up goodwill that this apology for intentionally hiding the state of a game on 25% of launch platforms & likely crunching another two months for good boy tokens is going over so well with folks. Kudos for the refund thing, tho. https://t.co/RwrIIdTj11— Rami Ismail (رامي) (@tha_rami) December 14, 2020
Their sly alt-right dogwhistles probably shored up a lot of that existing goodwill with a large % of their fanbase who are normally the type of people to get very animated about this shit
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 14 December 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link
lol this wheelchair clip
pic.twitter.com/60hqo7JdLx— Alex Prior 3̷͉͇̮͆̑́̓̓̋͗̇̚4̸̲̻̬̞̪̩̟̙͍̼̻̾̔̍͋̆͗͒̔̋͌͜͠ (@Alex_Prior_0) December 14, 2020
― circa1916, Monday, 14 December 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link
Alt right dogwhistles?
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Monday, 14 December 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link
i guess making out that disabled people are on the make is one thing...
the irony of those memes from a couple of years ago featuring bodged jobs accompanied by the Cyberpunk logo is really coming into its own now
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Monday, 14 December 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link
witcher 3 was a mess at release, this will probably be worse if the number of times its been delayed is any indication― ciderpress, Monday, December 7, 2020 11:27 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
― ciderpress, Monday, December 7, 2020 11:27 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
― ciderpress, Monday, 14 December 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link
we all knew this was a likely possibility