A PS4 Thread: Because You Had to Play "Knack"

Ha, in the Tim Rogers review he estimates it took him about 20 *hours* to get into the swing of things, then quotes Kojima saying it only gets fun at about the *halfway point.* If Rogers says the game took him about 80 hours, that puts it around *40 hours* until it gets "fun." Or, you know, somewhere between 20 and 40 hours. Which is a heck of a curve!

i wouldn't assume the game is 80 hours, tim is a slowgamer. he said DQXI was 100 hours and i finished that in 50-60

60 hours is a number I've seen a lot of, so that is probably more accurate at a good pace. But then we're still talking a couple of dozen hours to get into the swing of things, and/or "fun."

Which lol is probably my usually pace for all games!

Why does Tim Rogers sound like a permanently-sarcastic Nolan-Batman?

that's the "american explaining art/culture" voice imo

Close cousin of the 'American podcast' voice, eh? It's quite annoying. Even when he's being sincere it's hard to take him seriously

I'm likely never playing this game but I also watched that entire video review.

good combination imo

Tim Rogers is the worst version of whatever you think he is

who's the best version of american game critic with experience in the japanese game industry

it's all a coooonnnnnnnnnn

hm

http://gph.is/17Dpg5E

what are the good video game websites? i'm allergic to places like kotaku. i check out rockpapershotgun sometimes tho it's uneven, eurogamer (but also uneven)...

imo, there are zero good game websites left

I like some stuff on Polygon

Polygon and kotaku are basically the same site

https://www.gamasutra.com/
https://toucharcade.com/
https://statelyplay.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/Chrontendo
https://gamehistory.org/blog/
https://gameandgraphics.com/
http://shmuplations.com/games/
https://www.thewikigame.com/
https://www.criticalpathproject.com/
basically zs otm

i like polygon more than kotaku but yeah they often feel the same now.
bored kids with word counts to fill

i look at some jrpg-centric sites for news and reviews but there's nowhere with particularly good articles atm

https://gamehistory.org/every-english-language-video-game-magazine/

Thanks to subscriptions being included with the GameStop rewards card, the magazine’s circulation is over 7 million – the fourth largest overall circulation in the country

fwiw i go to eurogamer to find out what's newly released and what's the rumpus and for reviews occasionally
tbh ILG is my primary game website and has sold me on buying more things than anywhere else maybe ever

I think the best way to do it these days is to just follow a lot of indie game devs on twitter

the best way is just to follow/know a bunch of gamers e.g. this board

I just copy josh

eurogamer reviews are uneven but the writers there at least attempt to situate the games into some kind of genre context, explain how it fits into the culture, etc - most other reviews just feel like recaps

ilg is good but really isn't large enough to really be sufficient. lots of new interesting games we don't get around to at all or not until much later. i found dice dungeons through steam by accident (i was like a new terry cavvanaugh game??? how did i not hear about this?) it was great but no one here had mentioned it. curious about like disco elysium but i don't think anyone here has played it. i don't think anyone has played frostpunk. idk it seems like there's a lot of probably worthwhile games that we just don't have the numbers + dedication to cover just in the course of talking. has anyone played the new age of wonders (planetfall)? i do have to thank ilg for clueing me into Control an okay fun game <thumbsup>

nb even if i knew disco elysium was amazing sadly it's pc-only atm. but frostpunk is now on the ps4!

I'm so far behind that there's no way one of you wouldn't have mentioned a game if it were any good.

eurogamer's the only consistently decent games site imo

forums full of melts but

melts are absolutely the best you can hope for if you take it upon yourself to visit an online forum devoted to gaming tbh

Control under $40 with the coupon! Just picked it up because I doubt it's going to get much cheaper on Black Friday.

Whoops! $25 at Target for BF.

I'm hoping this means a deep discount on the Playstation store, too.

LOL, I thought that Death Stranding came out already, I guess not? I have seen literally zero about that game that seems appealing.

suspect it'll be $40 or less by Christmas

if i give in and buy it this weekend it's purely to support its weirdness (and probable awfulness)

Nioh is on the PS+ freebie menu this month which i'm actually looking forward to playing

nioh is good

probably 5 of my "top ten gaming moments" are from metal gear solid games so yalls death stranding doomsaying is just fueling my anticipation. watch this space as i liveblog my unfolding disappointment

i'm not even a metal gear / kojima fan and i think death stranding looks cool. just not as cool as my jrpg backlog

I misread "jrpg backlog" as "rpg backpack," which seems kinda like what Death Stranding is.

(I've never played any Metal Gear Solid games and long assumed that dude was just some GI Joe character I got to play as in Smash Bros.)

Oh, Josh.

I just restarted phantom pain and it remains great fun

it's the least good of the metal gear series but it's still awesome, the balloon shit is so funny every time

“He’s coming too?...alright....”

negative death stranding review: https://www.giantbomb.com/reviews/death-stranding-review/1900-795/

giant bomb was never going to like it

ah giant bomb, or as a friend called it, "that old men sighing channel"

The red flag for me is that even the wildly positive reviews have some serious (or at least alarming) contradictions. "Is it fun? Well, no, but ..." "It takes about 20 hours before you finally ... " "It's like if Breath of the Wild were boring on purpose," and so on. Honestly, from what I've seen or read of it it doesn't even look that weird, imo, by video game standards, and all the actors/celebrity cameos seem ... distracting. Plus, it appears very long stretches of the game (most of it?) are about balancing a bunch of stuff on your back while you traverse rough terrain, soothing your upset baby and repairing your shoes.

Which is a way of saying I look forward to hearing what some of you think of it.

See, that Giant Bomb pan is more or less identical to even the raves.