yep, and that's why i'll still play it, eventually
― the fleeking of america (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 October 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)
just referencing a point in the kotaku review about all of the people involved in making something like this, years and years of (forced overtime) labor - it leads to stunning technical achievements and an insane level of detail in every aspect of a huge open world game that you can lose yourself in for years. but it also seems like industrial gamemaking also inevitably means a regression to the mean
― the fleeking of america (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 October 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)
i prefer my light entertainment to have abstracted rather than representative gameplay
― ciderpress, Thursday, 25 October 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)
regression to the mean isn't a good way to put it. pre-emptively taking shots at myself because i know they're coming. there are advances forward each time, tech-wise, more and more "content", the story gets a little bit easier to swallow, and more of the voice acting is performed by actual voice actors, so it's not like things aren't improving. i just mean that the advances end up being so predictable. AAA games aren't regressing to the mean so much as honing in on the perfect mass-media game. that pursuit isn't unique to games but it seems like the videogame industry is particularly suited for it, like you can literally just throw more people and money and time at a big project and yell GO! and it will magically pop out a few years later, two steps ahead of the last one in the series, and implementing some of the advances from other games in the genre during the passing period. that's cool i guess but something about the whole thing leaves me feeling empty
― the fleeking of america (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 October 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)
damn, i wish i had your gift. I have to actually play it to find out what it's like.
i mean, obviously i'm goofing a bit here. but just as an example of what i mean - in this new RDR2, the main character can fall and get mud on his outfit, or blood on his clothes from gunfights. then later, people in settlements will be like "whoa you got blood on you cowboy, hope that's not yours!" or whatever. (i learned about that from the kotaku review).
all of that is really cool! i'm not sure if it's the first big AAA game that does that or if they already stole it from somewhere else. but what that means is that in the next big open world game, 1 or 2 years from now, whatever universe it's set in, whatever the game is about, the same thing will happen. you'll be a space miner working an asteroid all day or whatever, and when you get back on the spaceport one of the maintenance crew will say "whoa space man, you got cobalt all over your helmet! bet ya wish it was palladium instead!" and that will be kind of cool, but also predictable at that point, like it just has to happen
― the fleeking of america (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 October 2018 20:07 (seven years ago)
I thought that had already happened?
https://i.imgur.com/68ZYWe7.jpg
― pplains, Thursday, 25 October 2018 20:18 (seven years ago)
honestly i just wish people in real life would comment about all the blood and palladium i have on my clothes
― the fleeking of america (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 October 2018 20:20 (seven years ago)
is this gonna count as another sad dad game
― ciderpress, Thursday, 25 October 2018 20:49 (seven years ago)
If you want Palladium on your shirt buy a RIFTS tee.
https://palladium-store.com/mm5/graphics/00000002/images/TS804-Rifts-Logo-T-Shirt-XL.jpg
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 25 October 2018 21:54 (seven years ago)
Didn’t know karl was a butcher
― F# A# (∞), Thursday, 25 October 2018 22:58 (seven years ago)
i only butcher carnivores
― the fleeking of america (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:05 (seven years ago)
Bought it and an new One X to replace my decrepit X - struggled to not skip cutscenes (like I do with every other game) and with years between RDR and GTA and now this I'd forgotten how the Rockstar third person movement can be awkward.
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 26 October 2018 07:16 (seven years ago)
The first choice in the game is whether to kill someone or let him go and I killed the fuck out of him.
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 26 October 2018 07:18 (seven years ago)
Youse one angry redneck
― F# A# (∞), Friday, 26 October 2018 07:30 (seven years ago)
Gonna be twitching this today
― calstars, Friday, 26 October 2018 11:42 (seven years ago)
I mean consuming, not casting. Or may just watch this YouTube, which starts from the beginning. https://youtu.be/GU5vd5Z28UQ
― calstars, Friday, 26 October 2018 11:54 (seven years ago)
extremely disappointed to be spending this weekend with family in belfast instead of locking myself in a room and staring at horse bollocks :(
― la bébé du nom-nom (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 October 2018 11:57 (seven years ago)
this + spiderman + the fact that i spend 6 months playing one game at a time is making me think i should get a PS4 pro
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 26 October 2018 12:57 (seven years ago)
i just sprung for a non-pro ps4. i figured: i currently have a 26" tv, when i get a new one it will not be more than 40". there will not ever be pro exclusives.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 26 October 2018 13:08 (seven years ago)
pro seems nice if you have a 4k + HDR tv otherwise the delta isn't really that huge
― ciderpress, Friday, 26 October 2018 13:13 (seven years ago)
I got the slim a few months back rather than the pro because I don't have a 4k tv and that really seems to be the only dif.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 October 2018 13:14 (seven years ago)
xbox is the one where the difference is huge, the x is a really quality piece of hardware
― ciderpress, Friday, 26 October 2018 13:16 (seven years ago)
which ps4 is the quietest? my hearing sux so i'd probably go for that
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 26 October 2018 13:17 (seven years ago)
btw, has it been worth it so far tracer?
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 26 October 2018 13:19 (seven years ago)
get the slim then, the pro runs very loud on high end games
― ciderpress, Friday, 26 October 2018 13:20 (seven years ago)
i just ordered it - going to stay in a box until xmas sadly!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 26 October 2018 13:28 (seven years ago)
i like looking at the twitch index for new games with all the thumbnails as a sample collage of the game's color palette
― ciderpress, Friday, 26 October 2018 21:49 (seven years ago)
I'm going to get carpal tunnel in my thumb holding down A while riding horses.
― louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 27 October 2018 06:43 (seven years ago)
the game is gorgeous (i started playing it last night) and the voice acting is fantastic. the controls tho yeeesh
― Mordy, Saturday, 27 October 2018 13:58 (seven years ago)
rock star games
― ciderpress, Saturday, 27 October 2018 14:48 (seven years ago)
Yeah controls are always an issue with their games... and the races missions almost ruined the first one for me although in theory I should have loved it.
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 27 October 2018 14:57 (seven years ago)
it's kinda sweet that of all the game studios rock star got so caught up in the storytelling / character realization aspects of gaming and completely neglected the ludic elements
― Mordy, Saturday, 27 October 2018 15:04 (seven years ago)
Well, aim for cinematic and you end up with a game better to watch than to play.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 October 2018 15:27 (seven years ago)
Saw the first hour last night and it was like watching a cliched, extremely slow moving western movie with android actors. Snow looked pretty though
― calstars, Saturday, 27 October 2018 15:53 (seven years ago)
i'm sure it's a lot more fun once it opens up a bit. that first area is pretty much the tutorial
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 27 October 2018 16:24 (seven years ago)
yeah the main criticism i keep hearing for this is that its extremely slow even compared to tolerably slow paced games like witcher 3 and the like, also that it doesn't explain its systems well
― ciderpress, Saturday, 27 October 2018 16:33 (seven years ago)
sounds pretty realistic.
― Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Saturday, 27 October 2018 17:39 (seven years ago)
Just saw the Daniel Lanois did some of the music on this! That's cool.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:22 (seven years ago)
Just bought one fine stud fellas
― F# A# (∞), Saturday, 27 October 2018 21:19 (seven years ago)
I keep losing my hat
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Sunday, 28 October 2018 08:34 (seven years ago)
I’m doing everything to avoid killing people, and because of that i get killed often
― F# A# (∞), Sunday, 28 October 2018 08:55 (seven years ago)
sounds pretty realistic
― ciderpress, Sunday, 28 October 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)
I enjoy this game
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 29 October 2018 17:33 (seven years ago)
is it fun?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 29 October 2018 17:36 (seven years ago)
It's more pleasurable than fun if that makes sense
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 29 October 2018 17:43 (seven years ago)
how's the redemption
― ciderpress, Monday, 29 October 2018 17:50 (seven years ago)
I haven't gotten to the redemption yet, but the poker is incredible
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 29 October 2018 17:54 (seven years ago)
i don’t know how to play poker and i do not care to learnwill that be a problem y/n
― la bébé du nom-nom (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:16 (seven years ago)
Poker was one of my favourite bits about the first RDR
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Monday, 29 October 2018 19:12 (seven years ago)
It's optional, and you can set it to autoplay hands if you do choose to play.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 29 October 2018 19:13 (seven years ago)