Of Deathclaws & Radscorpions: A Fallout Thread

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i never played any of the others but i love the first metal gear solid game, i played through it a couple of times on ps1.

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 29 May 2009 18:52 (seventeen years ago)

Metal Gear Solid is totally worth going back for, even it's purely for the story. It may sound counter-intuitive, but they keep doing the same story again and again, but in slightly different ways and tweaked play mechanics and better technology - this may sound like a textbook example of video game sequelizing, but in context it's actually really interesting. Unlike most series it's actually constantly self-aware of this, it's reflected in the plots, so it gets more enjoyable and insightful (in that insane Kojima way). You might even want to go back to Metal Gear for MSX, but it's definitely a lot more frustrating and not quite as worth doing - a recap is probably good enough for the pre-MGS games.

I adore Fallout 1+2 and just played 1 again for the ILG PC thing several months ago, so I can't really give an objective opinion on it, so, uh, listen to Mordy. (Also still waiting on the inevitable GOTY edition of FO3 with all the DLC included.) You think it's original now for using a post-apocalyptic theme, but imagine how mindblowing it was in 1998! Sadly it's true that most RPGs still go for the default Tolkien-inspired worlds, West, East, PC, console alike...

I'm interested in STALKER, maybe I'll get into that at some point. It seems like one of those titles that got a bad rep when it came out because it was horrendously buggy. Actually I hear it's still horribly buggy even now, but time seems to have softened people's outlook on it.

Nhex, Friday, 29 May 2009 19:03 (seventeen years ago)

I hate going back to games 99% of the time. Do not want anything retro or old school from gaming.

bnw, Friday, 29 May 2009 19:28 (seventeen years ago)

i think i would enjoy a game where mega man navigates a 2-D bombed-out wasteland and has to decide between helping to defend a colony of robot prostitutes from giant mutant babies or killing them and taking their energy tanks.

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 29 May 2009 19:41 (seventeen years ago)

That's the plot of the Matrix, isn't it?

Feugh! (since somebody always asks: rhymes with "Peugh!") (forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 May 2009 19:57 (seventeen years ago)

as lame as this sounds, im having real bad travel sickness from playing fallout3 (also had it with half life 2). after an hour or more of playing i feel real nauseous and it lingers around for an hour or two after. i don't get this with other games like gta4, not even in the in-car driving view, maybe it's something to do with games set in THE FUTURE. using the 3rd person perspective helps slightly, but the queasiness still comes after a time.</wimpy>

anyone else get this or know of any cures? it's really ruining my fallout3 experience! the noise when i smash an ant or roach to bits doesn't help either, never been as repulsed by something as much as this in a game before. but like i said above, absolutely blown away by the whole game. was always put off by the 'rpg' tag attached to it, what a fool i was

NI, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 13:18 (seventeen years ago)

anyone else get this or know of any cures?

yes, had this with oblivibore too.
solution: get a decent graphic board capable of framerates above 40fps.

meisenfek, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 13:45 (seventeen years ago)

it's probably the radiation

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 13:55 (seventeen years ago)

thanks meisenfek, im using an nvidia geforce gtx 260, is that not good enough? i've gone into the options settings (before the game loads up) but i dont see anything to alter the fps

NI, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:09 (seventeen years ago)

Finished Broken Steel, amazed by the power of the Tesla Cannon. It completely sucks in a close-quarters firefight, but if your character stats are as high as I've gotten (and only at level 24!) then you can pick off Enclave guys from what seems like a half mile away. Ridiculous.

mh, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:42 (seventeen years ago)

since i'm at the last storyline quest i can't decide if i should bum around finding the little nooks that i haven't found yet or just get broken steel and plough through

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:57 (seventeen years ago)

that sucks :( the chinese xpac was all about sniping too and my guy is close quarter punch you in the face.

bnw, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:59 (seventeen years ago)

I do like in broken steel that a lot of the baddies are not just sitting in wait but get triggered.

Also some of the detail in the white house is great and shows how much potential the whole system still has.

bnw, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:01 (seventeen years ago)

i started keeping my extra guns and spare parts in the refrigerator at my house

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 05:46 (seventeen years ago)

is it worth seeing the original ending before installing broken steel or should i just download it now?

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 4 June 2009 22:36 (seventeen years ago)

you still get the original ending w/ broken steel

bnw, Thursday, 4 June 2009 22:56 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, the only diff is what happens post-ending, and you get one other possibility of who gets to do a certain task. And there's not a huge difference after that.

mh, Friday, 5 June 2009 00:45 (seventeen years ago)

this game is taking up far too much of my time - i hit a low when i was in a club at the weekend, taking a leak in the cubicle and first thing i thought when i saw the loo was 'hm i could drink out of that but my radiation level would.. ugh'.

still getting knocked sick if i play for more than an hour at a time, it's like a forbidden fruit.

i've noticed a few bugs, where missions i wasn't aware of suddenly become completed (when i collected a whole bunch of holotapes and listened to them, also this lewis taylor fellow mission just popped up out of nowhere) but nothing to ruin the game. read a few complaints about how the scenery repeats itself a lot, noticed this a bit but only in places you'd expect it to - like the sewers and metro.

i'm planning to get all the DLC (there are 3 out for the pc at the moment?), bit new to this so what's the best way of doing it - shall i complete F3 in full first before installing the DLC or is it ok to install them all now and they just fit into the game? or is it like the GTA4 DLC where they're entirely new games just set on the same landscape?

(sorry if all this has been said above, im reluctant to read through the whole thread in case of spoilers)

NI, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:32 (seventeen years ago)

I think you can add the DLC now without doing damage to the game.

(pronounced /ˈfɑrv/sklOf/tO/fewˈ/) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:41 (seventeen years ago)

two of the existing DLCs (pitt and anchorage) are basically self-contained areas with their own mission strings and can be done at any time you want. broken steel adds (some) content to the general environment, extends the main storyline, and bumps the level cap up to 30. as far as i know you can add any DLC and it'll work fine with an existing game.

xp

goole, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:46 (seventeen years ago)

i started a new character to have something to work with when the next two DLCs come out this summer, and i've been a cheating ass sob about it too :/

goole, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:47 (seventeen years ago)

ah great thanks, i'll stick them all in now

NI, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 17:08 (seventeen years ago)

i guess the next dlc's won't include the citadel because I sorta razed it.

bnw, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 18:19 (seventeen years ago)

operation anchorage is this weeks xbox live gold deal of the week (560 points) btw

ecstatic i poisoned u with nachos t(:Dt) (jjjusten), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 18:23 (seventeen years ago)

bah stupid effin sonora cruz bug, now i have a drawer at home with like a hundred fingers in it.

goole, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

i mean that's just gross

goole, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 02:25 (seventeen years ago)

hey point lookout drops today, right?

goole, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:42 (seventeen years ago)

haha. is it the thing where she starts running away from you? that happened to me and i cornered her out in the yard, and was still able to talk to her and get my bounty (then she ran away again).

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:44 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, apptly she has the courage rating of 'cowardly' so if there's a creature anywhere near the regulator hq she just starts running. it happened once and i chased her pretty far to the north. i don't know if she's one of the unkillable characters or not, so either she's dead or is... somewhere on the landscape.

goole, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:54 (seventeen years ago)

hmmm maybe the next time i see her i should shoot one of her legs off so she can't run away.

point lookout sounds awesome. i'm almost done w broken steel and was planning on taking a break from fallout, but we'll see.

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:56 (seventeen years ago)

Anyone have Point Lookout yet? I have yet to buy The Pitt and I'm curious which one is more worth my time. I thought the Anchorage one was so-so, but liked Broken Steel quite a bit. Army bases, more gadget-like guns, and fighting Enclave teams is more fun.

mh, Thursday, 25 June 2009 21:20 (seventeen years ago)

i'm enjoying the hell out of it! it seems bigger and more open-ended than the others. the missions are more interesting and well-written than average, and some of them are honest-to-god hard. everything is swampy and wet and there's a kind of deliverance/toxic avenger vibe (explicitly, in some of the new enemies)

i'd break it down like this, to an extent: the pitt was ok, but wasted its most interesting environment on a tedious find-100-of-these task. OA is a nice visual break since everything is frosty and blue instead of grubby and brown, but it's a blatant excuse to dole out some game-breaking equipment for 9.99. broken steel was just necessary, the stock ending sucks. if you liked any of the new content point lookout is well worth it.

goole, Thursday, 25 June 2009 21:29 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, goole def otm re: all of the dlcs

I've still to download point lookout, I think I will but give mothership zeta a pass

miniboss of s1ocki (cozwn), Thursday, 25 June 2009 21:33 (seventeen years ago)

Im kinda intrigued with this but have a feeling my lvl 28 char will annihilate all the new enemies.

mayor jingleberries, Thursday, 25 June 2009 23:12 (seventeen years ago)

i picked up fallout3 again tonight after a long spell of rest, it's such a formidable game - I feel I have to take it seriously sometimes, and it puts me off playing it as well (but in a respectful way)

** spoilers for the main game **
anyway don't laugh, but I've only just been into the 'other' vault and done the strange virtual reality story. Not sure if I did the right thing, becoming the little murderer and slaughtering the neighbourhood. I opened up the abandoned house failsafe terminal but it sounded like it would kill me if i activated it.
finding myself just following a main mission trail now, need to get out and start back with the side tasks.

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Friday, 26 June 2009 00:40 (seventeen years ago)

Ha, I'm in exactly the same situation, picked it up last night after a couple of months off, because yeah, it felt like I needed a break from it. I'm a fair chunk further along the main quest than you are. But my problem at the moment is that I've finished all the side quests I had open, and I don't seem to be able to trigger any new ones. Every time I wander off trail to explore something interesting-looking, it turns out to just be a straight dungeon crawl with maybe a bobblehead at the end if I'm lucky, rather than an actual bit of side story. I know this can only be down to me being unlucky, but it's getting a bit frustrating.

JimD, Friday, 26 June 2009 08:23 (seventeen years ago)

I moved on a bit from where I last posted, upgrading my level three times in one sitting is pretty good going for me on this game.

I like all the mini-mini-quests, like fetching scrap metal for the dude back in megaton. It gives me a reason to scavange. And i've been carrying around with me toy cars and garden gnomes for heck knows how long. I still have no static residence

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Friday, 26 June 2009 10:20 (seventeen years ago)

i like the feel and look of PL but damn those new hicksville enemies are tough. maybe i just got used to killing a minelurk with 3 shots in the main game, im only at level 21 too.

what are the best & most useful perks to get? considering getting the explorer one but i don't know if i want to know where every location is yet, i quite enjoy wandering about and stumbling across new areas. i think im gonna increase my (as-yet barely touched) unarmed skill level so i can test out that paralysing palm perk

NI, Friday, 26 June 2009 10:36 (seventeen years ago)

one real irritating bug is that when i first found tenpenny tower i made my way up to tenpenny's room, got in but he was nowhere to be seen, not on the balcony or anywhere. after about 30 mins of searching i went wandering round the grounds and there he was, splatted on the floor like he'd fallen/jumped/been pushed off his balcony. it meant i couldn't do the zombie task properly and it prevented me from doing the awesome spread-loads-of-mines-around-tenpenny-then-shoot thing where he gets flung miles and miles across the wasteland

NI, Friday, 26 June 2009 10:41 (seventeen years ago)

too much fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwVDgTxr7fM

NI, Friday, 26 June 2009 10:44 (seventeen years ago)

i finished the broken steel quests last night. good fun (esp. running around the enclave missile platform with my pet deathclaw) but i'm feeling a little burnt out on fallout. i was about to download point lookout last night but figured i would probably just rush through it, so i got portal (still alive) instead.

ps did anyone blow up rivet city with the missiles? kinda wish i did.

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 26 June 2009 14:45 (seventeen years ago)

The best perks are absolutely the one that gives you 2 skill points for every book you read, and the one that gives you extra skill points every level.

Mordy, Friday, 26 June 2009 16:50 (seventeen years ago)

my favorite perks are animal friend and grim reaper

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 26 June 2009 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

Animal Friend is the dopeness; I love running deathclaws into groups of bears

Mindless Thugs Mixtape Volume One (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 June 2009 17:25 (seventeen years ago)

i'm a fan of the ones that open up new dialogue options: lady killer/black widow & child at heart

goole, Friday, 26 June 2009 17:36 (seventeen years ago)

it was kinda disappointing that there were only like 2 or 3 black widow options in the whole game (that i found)

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 26 June 2009 17:37 (seventeen years ago)

yeah tru it's a little under-written -- SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER there's a funny one with the dude next to the nuka-cola chick

but for god's sake don't take the perks that give xp or another immediate level-up

goole, Friday, 26 June 2009 18:10 (seventeen years ago)

i think i'm done with Point Lookout, and it's the best DLC yet imo... maybe not better than Broken Steel for what that adds to the whole game, but well worth it in itself. well written and VERY well scripted. and hard! finally, something hard! there are a lot of really entertaining and clever visual touches here and there that i will not spoil 4 u. one of the side missions ties back into a location in the capital wasteland in a cool way, it's all really well done.

i hit level 30 while doing it and i could have easily overpowered everything, but i left most of my gear in megaton and tried to do it 'for real' and wasn't disappointed, still pretty challenging!

goole, Friday, 26 June 2009 18:18 (seventeen years ago)

don't want to give anything away but the new adam curtis exhibition/production in manchester is the nearest thing to a real-life fallout3. all set in the late 50s, early 60s, a lot of it consists of wandering through rooms looking in boxes/drawers, reading notes, etc. just incredible. in the unlikely event any of you are in manchester over the next 3 weeks you should beg/steal/borrow to get tickets for this

NI, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:34 (seventeen years ago)

no shooting at supermutants?

real men love cheeses (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:45 (seventeen years ago)


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