The Nintendo Switch

want to finish a bit more of my backlog before i start recklessly ranking things

anything worth copping on the summer sale

i didn't know there was one, will look when I get home

may be UK and europe only....... ?

if there's one in the US it's not advertised anywhere in the news feed. theres a bunch of indie games on sale as always but nothing i can vouch for

Tell me about Captain Toad - the demo was fun!

Was also thinking of picking up Inside - anyone tried it? I really enjoyed Limbo, but not really interested if it's just a carbon copy in a new skin.

inside does the same thing as limbo more or less, but better and with more impact

i havent played captain toad yet myself but if you've played the demo that's basically all it is afaik - a chill diorama-puzzle game

Yep, it’s more like the demo, difficulty is pitched pretty low but it’s a fun little thing so far.

Captain Toad is very relaxing. Unlike 200cc Mario Kart.

not sure where to put this so I'm putting it here:

I'm watching a streamer play Hollow Knight without any of the nail upgrades and good lord, the masochism

(he's currently on like his 25th attempt at beating the Lost Kin boss)

i'm playing captain toad at the moment! xps

a couple of frustrating levels down to my own terrible game skill but it's been so fun, cute, interesting and cool to work out each lil level
thirty quid seems like a steal for this even if it goes quite quickly

my favorite levels are the puzzleboxy enemy-less ones even if they're pretty easy

Gotta say, these things do ebb and flow, but Nintendo really seems to have hurt its valuation after unveiling virtually nothing at E3.

Kind of infuriating to me that investors are betting heavily against a 100+ year old company based on one media event, it makes me want to buy NTDOY out of annoyance

wait until after the quarterly financial briefing that comes out tomorrow, it was a slow quarter and people who don't understand things like "holidays" and "pokemon" and "smash bros" may panic

good idea. I get some number of free trades from Vanguard I'll just throw some money at em.

investors valuation of Nintendo doesn't have any bearing at all on our experience as consumers

Nintendo should take itself private

they probably could, they're still sitting on infinite money from the Wii and DS

Weren't they really against the ropes after the failure of the Wii U? The idea is to maintain momentum, right? System sales? Not sure how many people into Smash don't have a system yet.

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They had a sales dud in the Wii U but the 3DS ended up doing okay.

the only time they've been anywhere near the ropes was the gamecube era. Wii U was a failure but Wii and the entire DS/3DS line were such incredible successes that it'll take multiple failures of that magnitude to undo them

The Switch is likely to be a sustained success with consumers and with developers, and I’m willing to bet that iterations on the Switch will be the center of Nintendo’s console and handheld business for many years to come.

It seems like a generally winning combination of their best ideas

It does! But vital they keep putting out exclusives and the occasional AAA. Right now eShop is full of garbage.

they're doing that

every gaming platform has a sea of mediocre indie games on its eshop

the eshop is a discovery mess but so is every online storefront there ever was. I own at least a dozen indie games from the eshop ranging from diverting and cute to all-time-great-videogame-experience, and there's many more well-regarded indies on there already that I haven't tried, many of which have disclosed that they're doing really well on the Switch, even a year in when head-scratching stuff like terrible untranslated Japanese cosplay dating "games" has started hitting the NA eshop.

The exlusives are mostly sequels and previous system ports. Nothing that expands the audience. But yeah, plenty of games I love, just talking hype and business.

The Nintendo Switch

Labo is Nintendo's big bet this year on expanding their audience, and nobody will know if it's really working until holiday.

i think making a pokemon game designed to onboard pokemon go players is a bigger bet towards that than labo

Yeah true

xpost tbf, I did buy a PS4!

Josh in Chicago have you played Zelda yet

Been on vacation, will get into it after more time with Hollow Night.

Switch hardware sales in the quarter ending June 30 down a little bit YoY but software growth was substantial. I tried to buy NTDOY but I need to call vanguard to confirm that I want to make over the counter trades for fraud prevention reasons and that seems annoying.

just for the fun of having an actual stake in Nintendo doing well? I enjoy following this stuff but I wouldn't actually put my own money in this rather than any sort of fund

Yeah I mean just for funsies mostly. I don’t fuck around with individual stocks otherwise.

I did do well for my dad once when I told him to buy AAPL at a low point a few years ago, before the 7:1 split.

Hold on isn't even a slight drop in hardware sales within your first year a massive red flag? That's not how console sales curves are meant to work, even xbox one sold more going into its second year than in its first and MS still ended up refusing to share their sales figures.

(our switch unit sales are up year on year tbf, but that makes a decline for nintendo themselves even more odd-sounding).

(just checked and even wii u sold better in year 2 than year 1)

It could be, but this particular quarter was not destined to light the world on fire hardware-wise. All the software launched seems to have done well (Kirby on track to be the best-selling Kirby, Tropical Freeze port has outsold the Wii U version, etc) but none of it is going to trigger new hardware purchases. On the other hand everyone who bought a Switch this quarter probably got it with at least one of Kart, Odyssey, Zelda, or Splatoon 2. Nintendo hitting their 20 million unit projection for FY19 is gonna depend a lot on the holiday quarter and Pókemon. Holiday will probably see bundle deals.

it was an extremely slow quarter for new games, and it's being compared to the launch window there

it would be really weird if this console failed bc it's such a dazzling piece of hardware

I really hope they come out with a smaller, handheld-only one.

it's called the Nintendo Switch because there's no way to switch it

i think different form factors are a ways off

switch will pass gamecube in lifetime sales shortly, and might pass n64 with a good enough holiday season