The Nintendo Switch

since folks are talking about shovel knight's old-school difficulty, i do want to mention that shovel knight also has old-school cheat codes, about a billion of them.

xp to Josh

I think a lot of that pricing is due to the novelty of it being a current-ish FPS (only FPS on Switch I think?) that nobody thought the system was capable of even running. Maybe is too high, but I don’t count it in the same category as DS.

The novelty can in theory justify the price, but given reported performance issues, or at least compromises, the price should be dropped.

Re: Shovel Knight, rather than cheat, per se, along with getting better I realized I can just play the first (easy) level again a couple of extra times to accumulate some quick cash. Upgrades have helped beat a couple of the tougher later bits, though I still think the second level (grim reaper boss?) is a significant enough incline in difficulty that the subsequent stages haven't seemed so bad.

itt: josh gits gud

£50-60 for skyrim is unacceptable imo. I'm sorely tempted by it as an idea (had it on 360 but never even got close to finishing iirc, would definitely replay) but I'm not paying north of 50 quid for a port of a 6 year old game. Especially not when I can download it for free on my laptop if I choose to do so.

Idk maybe people are paying those prices? Seems like bullshit to me

All legacy ports on the Sony and MS systems eventually drop hard in price, hoping this is the case with the Switch ports eventually. Probably not, but I'm still gonna hope.

Playing Shovel Knight for the first time cuz of this thread (just the latest installment, Specter of Torment) and man it’s really fun. Nice middle of the road level of challenge IMO. After 4 levels anyway.

Nintendo’s first corporate commandment is “protect the selling price of our games forever”. This gives cover for “old” games to command premium price on their platforms, even from third parties. So yeah, people are paying full price for Skyrim on Switch.

i'm kind of amazed that games aren't $80+ at this point. i remember buying street fighter II turbo for $70 back when it came out.

Yeah, that’s a constant source of amazement for me. Even NES games were like 50 bucks, right? Surprised my parents shelled out for that shit back in the day.

Part of it is, from what I understand, cartridges were not cheap to produce.

I think we've talked about this a bit. It's not that they are overpriced, adjusted for inflation. They are still a historically good value, on paper. It's just that they are priced significantly more than all other editions of the same (in some cases years old) game. I I have no problem with Nintendo double-dipping on proprietary Wii U titles that few actually played, because the console didn't sell so well. But games that have been released on every other platform, repeatedly, sometimes as an inferior port (Doom, which I'm sure still looks great on the switch), it takes some cojones to charge full price for that.

Which is why I think it is cool that the Dark Souls people recognize this and are only charging $40.

I still don’t think the Doom thing is a big deal. I can see it being 40 bucks in a year anyway. It’s weird to dock it points for being an inferior port because it’s running on hardware that nobody thought was even capable of handling it. It’s unique and maybe even a system seller for some people (“hey it can run PS4, XB1 level games”).

My Switch was delivered today.

Zelda is amaaaaaazing.

otm

xbox/PS4 era has conditioned me to paying at most £30 for a game. the £50 standard for switch games stings (particularly first party nintendo games, which tend to hold their value)

I played too much Skyrim since Christmas and my eyes feel permanently crossed and my body feels permanently angry at me

was up too late playing VS. Super Mario Bros.

it's a really good port. so after they made Super Mario Bros. they made this version for the arcade and they switched it up to make it harder. there are only 4 1-UPs in the entire game (there are 10 in the NES one). the staircase in 3-1 with the turtles that you can use to do infinite lives? it's been nerfed, one of the turtles is a goomba, it no longer works.

the warp zone in level 4-2 that takes you to 8-1 in the NES version? it goes to 6-1! plus not only that but some levels are entirely new and were made specifically for this version. 6-3, 6-4, 7-2, 7-3 are all new levels that would end up re-used in the famously difficult Japanese "Super Mario Bros. 2". it's insane.

i made it to 6-3 but i kept dying and getting kicked back to 6-1. it requires really accurate jumping. highly recommended and actually kind of cool in a historical sense! it's almost Super Mario Bros. 1.5

mario and rabbids is fantastic and the difficulty goes up a fair bit towards the end.

I need to polish that off, beat the midboss of world 3 in my last session.

yes mario rabbids is excellent and as jamiesummerz says it gets hard towards the end (but not unfairly). the opera boss is one of my fav bosses ever!

how do we feel about ARMS

i wish i had someone nearby irl who wanted to play with me for it

what is the gameplay like? i imagine it is something like Punch Out with motion controls.

it’s more of its own thing than that but it’s a good way to get a sense of whether you might enjoy it for yrself imo

I like ARMS a lot.

ha! i totally slept on ARMS but I still kinda want to play it

ARMS, like Splatoon and Rabbids, is totally a title I would try for maybe $40, but not $60.

if only there was some kind of way to acquire second-hand goods shipped from locations near and far

some type of 'electronic bay' if u will

Ok I have a boring question

What is a good case

Not this one, which I bought
https://store.nintendo.co.uk/nintendo-switch-accessory/nintendo-switch-accessory-set/11396100.html

It never quite feels like its in right, seems like it will be putting a lot of pressure on the analogue sticks, or that something will be pressing against the screen. I have no idea how they expect you to fit the joycon straps in, too - I generally just have the Switch + games. Also, I underestimated how many physical games I would buy (I have 9 so far, and it only comfortably fits 5 - I've had to double-up in the slots).

tl;dr - I, too, would like to know what is a good case!

That is great to know as I was just about to buy that!

some type of 'electronic bay' if u will

Honestly, the prices aren't too awesome on eBay, either - if a game starts overpriced at $60 then $45+ for something used doesn't scan so much as a "deal," especially since a game like, for example, Splatoon 2 or ARMS I can buy new at Costco for $50. I have also read at least a couple accounts of people switching (har) cartridge stickers to scam suckers and stores.

imo you will experience diminishing returns from buying more games. it is better to complete the games you already own to 100% and stop worrying about things you can't control, such as the price of gasoline.

imo you will experience diminishing returns in fun trying to 100% games, usually that last 10-20% is the last 10-20% because its the stuff you dont actually want to do

I think you are both right and that is generally the strategy I am pursuing. in terms of purchasing games, there are a few factors at work in my case. There are games I want to play, games that kids might like to play, games the kids are even able to play, and games we could all play. maybe they got it from me, but there is no way my kids have the patience or diligence to play something like Zelda. but at this point I do, which is why I bought it. But I'm not going to play it until I make more progress with other games. the flip side is I got stardew Valley not just because some of you recommended it, and not just because it got a lot of really positive reviews, because at least one of my kids likes Animal Crossing. But Animal Crossing is more their speed, and they got bored and or frustrated with stardew Valley, because there's so much to keep track of. Even Snipper clips, a game I bought for everyone to enjoy, they weren't so hot on it. Though it is a lot of fun. I should i guess get in the habit of taking games out from the library and trying them out.

nintendo labo looks like it'd be amazing if you have kids

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Nintendo-Labo/Nintendo-Labo-1328637.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=NintendoLabo%7CAnnouncement%7Cw3

super cool, like a lofi Gakken for young kids

u crazy for this one nintendo
(i will buy this)

That's dope

ok holy shit that looks amazing

wow that looks rad

nintendo’s current purple patch brings me immense joy tbh

labo's kind of a crazy idea. papercraft is always fun though

That looks super cool, even though I think my kids are too old for it. So how does it/will it work? They're going to sell ready to go cardboard kits?

yeah they have two packs to start with

http://labo.nintendo.com

like the robot suit looks nuts, how the heck does that work

1. do a bunch of research online, order parts, and build a functioning robot suit
2. tape cardboard to it

this looks cool! I just signed up to participate in the local workshop with my littlest, hopefully we'll get picked!