steamworld2 and golf story are recommended
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 8 December 2017 18:37 (eight years ago)
steamworld dig 2 is excellent if you like Metroid style platformers
Pro controller was essential for me because I have giant hands and was cramping up using the joycon grip, give the grip a try first though if you're not in the same boat
― ciderpress, Friday, 8 December 2017 18:42 (eight years ago)
that's what people mean by metroidvania, right? scrolling platforms?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 December 2017 18:50 (eight years ago)
+ upgrading abilities leading to backtracking to earlier sections of the game to visit new opened up areas that were previously inaccessible (e.g.., there was a tunnel high up on the wall on the first screen, but now that you've unlocked triple-jump you can finally reach it)
― Karl Malone, Friday, 8 December 2017 18:53 (eight years ago)
so og Zelda, too?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:31 (eight years ago)
metroidvanias are necessarily side scrollers
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:35 (eight years ago)
Zelda 2 is closer
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:36 (eight years ago)
don't you mean zelda 3?
― Evan, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:37 (eight years ago)
get sonic mania, and get enter the gungeon next week
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:48 (eight years ago)
xp ymmvhttps://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion-30/what-is-the-difference-between-a-zelda-clone-and-a-413536/
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:48 (eight years ago)
xps pro controller not needed, the standard grip is just fine IMO. the only reason I might get one is to avoid the charging issue with the joycons (if you play docked, and your charge runs out, then you have to play in portable #firstworldproblems) even then a charging grip is half the price
― Nhex, Friday, 8 December 2017 22:38 (eight years ago)
that said i love this system enough to maybe spring for the pro controller anyway
am i the only person who just plays the system for all games with one joycon in each hand? it seems the perfect answer to gaming.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 8 December 2017 22:42 (eight years ago)
Probably not, it's p ergonomic, that's a sometimes food for me though (usually because I forget)
― .oO (silby), Friday, 8 December 2017 22:49 (eight years ago)
I mostly go pro controller
― .oO (silby), Friday, 8 December 2017 22:50 (eight years ago)
one joycon per hand is probably the optimal scheme for Odyssey truth be told, but i had a hard time getting used to that
― Nhex, Saturday, 9 December 2017 04:06 (eight years ago)
it’s a console with lots of control options have some words lads
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 9 December 2017 04:14 (eight years ago)
The iOS game market has really gone to crap, it seems to me
seems like the economics of game development have caught up. no way is a five buck game going to equal a flagship console game.
one of the reasons i got a switch is the staggeringly cheap games. au$69 for the biggest ever open-world super mario is just incredible.
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 9 December 2017 04:49 (eight years ago)
homing hat is big advantage for odyssey
― crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 9 December 2017 04:56 (eight years ago)
oh hey, for those of you who DON'T do the individual joycons-in-each-hand playstyle for Mario, I have some news for you: cappy can be thrown by using the right hand joycon like a wiimote! finding that accidentally while playing was one of my biggest OMG I LOVE THIS GAME moments
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Saturday, 9 December 2017 07:49 (eight years ago)
au$69 for the biggest ever open-world super mario is just incredible.
― straightedge is just volcel for vegans (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 9 December 2017 09:54 (eight years ago)
finished XC2. good game overall, would highly recommend to anyone who likes JRPGs but probably builds up way too slowly for people who aren't into the genre or the anime stylings. i wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being the best regarded xeno-series game besides xenogears but i'm not ready to call it a masterpiece.
pros: +excellent music, mostly excellent environment design. these are what this series/studio is most known for and it shows+good story that takes its time to blend in the weirdo JRPG mythology stuff before going somewhere really unexpected in the final act.+combat system is fun once you have all the main mechanics available, and it does a good job of introducing small twists deep into the game+very player-friendly save/retry system, you never lose any progress when you die which makes it way less stressful to experiment
cons: -parts of the UI and especially the map UI are bad. in general, the whole game lacks the Nintendo Polish and it seems likely that Monolithsoft is still working independently on these despite being part of Nintendo now.-the rare blade designs that were done by guest artists are extremely hit or miss-the sections of the game where the story takes away one or more of the main characters were much less fun for me because this game's combat system is more about mastery of execution than tactics and thus taking away something you've been relying on is disruptive in a bad way rather than an interesting way.
― ciderpress, Sunday, 10 December 2017 05:08 (eight years ago)
good review, thanks. i'll probably give it a chance when it comes down in price
― Nhex, Sunday, 10 December 2017 05:18 (eight years ago)
Wow that was quick, I’m on chapter 5 so roughly how far in am I?I read somewhere that a lot of the main Monolith staff didn’t work on the game as they were called in to help on Zelda, so this game was made by a smaller more B type team. It shows as it is rough around the edges and as you say and lacks technical polish, even compared to the first XC which was a minor miracle of programming given the hardware they had to work with. I’ve had two occasions where I’ve been trapped in menus and can’t get out, had to reset the software - can’t remember the last time I had to do something like that with a Nintendo published game. And yes some of the character designs are truly awful.
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 10 December 2017 05:26 (eight years ago)
Still enjoying it though, seeing that “battery low” message so often is a good indication that I’m having fun haha
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 10 December 2017 05:29 (eight years ago)
heh, i feel that one!
― Nhex, Sunday, 10 December 2017 05:32 (eight years ago)
you're probably close to halfway? there's 10 chapters but the last one is mostly just cutscenes and the final boss & ending
― ciderpress, Sunday, 10 December 2017 05:51 (eight years ago)
i think my final playtime was under 60 hours but i really rushed through some bits, i'd guess 60-70 hours would be normal
― ciderpress, Sunday, 10 December 2017 05:54 (eight years ago)
That sounds about right, I’m about 38 hours in. Extra levelling up at inns feels like cheating!
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 10 December 2017 05:58 (eight years ago)
the inn mechanic is, i assume, essentially a difficulty slider so you can do a lot of sidequests and not outlevel the main quest if you don't want to
― ciderpress, Sunday, 10 December 2017 06:00 (eight years ago)
ciderpress does your completed save file let you go run around and hunt down named monsters to fight and whatever or do you pop back to outside the boss roomFor some reason I get annoyed by the latter system, like i just want to run around in Zelda with the world saved
― .oO (silby), Sunday, 10 December 2017 06:02 (eight years ago)
same thing as zelda, it saves that you beat the game and you get a nice final title screen but when you load up you're outside the boss room
― ciderpress, Sunday, 10 December 2017 06:11 (eight years ago)
I accidentally played Vostok Inc for like six hours today.
― thos beads (jamescobo), Sunday, 10 December 2017 06:16 (eight years ago)
xp oh well I’ll live (we’ll see how much noodling around I’ll actually want to do if I beat this thing) (my partner is going to be gone for 10 days over New Years of course I’m going to beat it)
― .oO (silby), Sunday, 10 December 2017 06:33 (eight years ago)
I watched an ex-ilxor play Mario for about 30 seconds and two months later I still have pangs of wishing I could learn to throw a cap
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Sunday, 10 December 2017 07:54 (eight years ago)
fuck throwing a cap
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 10 December 2017 08:01 (eight years ago)
I can't turn my power bar into a heart
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Sunday, 10 December 2017 09:06 (eight years ago)
oh one other thing about XC2 if y'all haven't figured it out yet is the skill in the skill tree that lets you cancel arts into arts is pretty much mandatory for maximum enjoyment - once you have that you can chain combo through every art on all 3 of your equipped blades if your execution is good and get huge multipliers
― ciderpress, Sunday, 10 December 2017 16:09 (eight years ago)
also if you're playing as Rex i recommend an eventual setup where you have Pyra, Roc, and a greataxe rare blade (i had Agate) which lets you do an entire topple -> launch -> smash sequence on your own off of Nia's break. if you're able to combine that with the above you'll practically one-shot normal enemies. it's pretty fun.
― ciderpress, Sunday, 10 December 2017 16:14 (eight years ago)
I’m just glad I finally got to the point where I’ll have enough elements in my party to pull off blade combos more easily and not end up with as many dead ends
― .oO (silby), Sunday, 10 December 2017 17:06 (eight years ago)
Getting a topple or launch while the stage II special status is on is so clutch, the status meter refills a bunch and sometimes you get party meter. There’s another possibility or two for the bonus but I can’t tell what it is.Anyway love chain attacking a boss with 2+ orbs and doing 46000 damage or whatever
― .oO (silby), Sunday, 10 December 2017 17:08 (eight years ago)
ok, I've got my heavy hitter cartridges, what download or indie games should I consider? keep hearing binding of Isaac, cave story ... what else?― Josh in Chicago, Friday, December 8, 2017 10:34 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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Just don't make the same mistake I did with Binding of Isaac i.e. be aware that there is a lot of poo in it before you buy it.
― cwkiii, Monday, 11 December 2017 01:38 (eight years ago)
Picross S! But if you're already a Picross addict, you knew that
― Nhex, Monday, 11 December 2017 01:43 (eight years ago)
boi is a really really good game fwiw
― Mordy, Monday, 11 December 2017 01:44 (eight years ago)
I agree! But the above caveat is important if you're easily grossed out like me. :)
It was actually one of the first two games I bought when I got my Switch a few months ago (along with Mario Kart)...I didn't think I had time to get lost in Zelda yet, and this was right before there were suddenly large piles of Switches at every store I went to so there was a sense of urgency when I found one. Checked Metacritic, saw it was highly rated and saw "roguelike" in the description and that was that. I literally could have done 20 more seconds of research and realized what I was getting into.
― cwkiii, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:07 (eight years ago)
so help me I've been reading video game message boards just to get my fix of Nintendo release calendar speculation, the Nintendo Switch has made me extremely stupid and hungry for marketing
― .oO (silby), Monday, 11 December 2017 22:46 (eight years ago)
they've been awful stingy with it!
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:13 (eight years ago)
yeah we're entering mystery territory now, i suspect they're gonna have a Direct right after the holidays to announce stuff for the first half of 2018
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:22 (eight years ago)
i'm fine with this, actually, there's always other systems and platforms to backlog through. also it with all the cross-platform games announced it sounds like most the big companies are going in on Switch and probably have a lot of stuff in the works for late '18/'19
― Nhex, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:26 (eight years ago)
Here’s some arbitrary shit I hope to see on Switch that’s not probably a total given, the sooner the better2D Zelda with a novel art style2D Mario with a novel art styleNew Golden SunNew Final Fantasy TacticsSome brand new local multiplayer game from Nintendo (Flip Wars is this technically but I didn’t buy it…)A new Paper Mario that’s good and not bad like the Wii U one apparently wasThe whole Game Boy Advance libraryA Zelda game where you play as Zelda, ideally Zelda from after the end of Breath of the Wild
― .oO (silby), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:52 (eight years ago)