We love the Steam Sales and the discounts they bring. But perhaps even more than we love the low, low prices, we love The Sale Event itself. We love the pre-sale videos that we carefully cut together to hype each other up for the imminent spending spree. We love the in-jokes and the memes, the constant banter about the bleeding wallets and the screaming, tortured credit cards that just can't take any more.There's a word that people use to describe “creating a sense of excitement to improve spending on an upcoming commercial event,” and that word is “marketing.” Marketing is a job, and in the real world, people get paid for it.But in the world of Good Guy Valve we give that marketing away, for free, to a billion-dollar corporation every year (sometimes twice a year, if he asks nicely), doing our bit to help that corporation make more money during a sale event.We’re colleagues in the sense that Valve gets our money and our labor, a topic we’ll talk more about later. We do our part with the memes, the articles and the social media posts, and our good friend Valve does the rest. The rest meaning taking our money.
There's a word that people use to describe “creating a sense of excitement to improve spending on an upcoming commercial event,” and that word is “marketing.” Marketing is a job, and in the real world, people get paid for it.
But in the world of Good Guy Valve we give that marketing away, for free, to a billion-dollar corporation every year (sometimes twice a year, if he asks nicely), doing our bit to help that corporation make more money during a sale event.
We’re colleagues in the sense that Valve gets our money and our labor, a topic we’ll talk more about later. We do our part with the memes, the articles and the social media posts, and our good friend Valve does the rest. The rest meaning taking our money.
what is he talking about he is professionally writing about all of this for a major publication presumably he is being paid for this. is he upset that Valve isn't paying him directly for message board comments and retweets?
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:29 (nine years ago)
lol otm that article was dumb
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:45 (nine years ago)
DLH OTM
Adam and Tofu just more accelerationist than the rest of us
― your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:54 (nine years ago)
Adam, yes, please go back to being a thief, that seems to be your aim here
― your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:56 (nine years ago)
as monopolies go valve/steam isn't much of one
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:02 (nine years ago)
it's approximately as much of one as twitch, youtube and the itunes store
― your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:03 (nine years ago)
yeah none of which i think are particularly egregious. in the "video game" space steam isn't even the biggest player. it's the biggest player in the PC gaming online retail space.
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:05 (nine years ago)
All of the arguments against this piece seem to be just going around the point entirely. So it's not egregious - that's the same as being okay?Is it perfectly acceptable that we have to rely on lawsuits in other countries to keep this company from exploiting its "exclusive distributor" status to an even greater extent?
― your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:10 (nine years ago)
what is steam exclusive distributor of?
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:17 (nine years ago)
...
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:25 (nine years ago)
I dunno man I tried my best maybe you can load more results than me
https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=exclusive%20on%20steam
I'm slow, that's also maybe why I needed forks to tell me corporations aren't moral beings
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:28 (nine years ago)
Half Life, Left 4 Dead and Team Fortress? Is that the complaint? It's not like they're three particularly hot franchises atm.
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:28 (nine years ago)
steam is valve's exclusive distributor which is not exactly a monopoly, it's just the delivery service for the games they make
i dunno why this got under your skin tom but i'll happily pour you that drink nowhttp://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/16/161375/2254963-link_receives_red_potion.jpg
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:43 (nine years ago)
i'm with you tombot
― Nhex, Thursday, 18 May 2017 07:36 (nine years ago)
_If you were to ask the average PC gamer, they’d swear up and down that there’s no way they’d ever give their money to such a corporation. They’d not only be caught dead before helping a company like that come to power, they might even join the resistance to stop them._lol are you serious
lol are you serious
I had a hard time finishing the article after reading this. The article reads like an angry Reddit post.
― beard papa, Friday, 19 May 2017 19:14 (nine years ago)
I think the average PC gamer is only worried about big corporations when they don't adhere to ethics in journalism
― The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 May 2017 20:53 (nine years ago)
luckily nothing unethical happens during the manufacturing of those PCs
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 19 May 2017 20:56 (nine years ago)
https://www.patreon.com/saint11/posts?tag=tutorial
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 18:54 (nine years ago)
good piece on the architecture of dark souls: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-18-an-obituary-for-the-architecture-of-dark-souls-eternally-dying-land
― cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 19 June 2017 09:10 (eight years ago)
https://www.polygon.com/2017/7/17/15974096/what-it-costs-to-run-an-independent-video-game-store
― Nhex, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 08:19 (eight years ago)
good piece, albeit depressing
this is nuts:
Jake Stoner at Cap'n Games in Sparks, Nev. simply has an Amazon Prime account and preorders one copy of every new game. Since Amazon offers 20 percent off preorders, he gets a lower per-unit price than distributors offer. Then he turns those around for a $5 profit on each."I don't try to mislead my customers, but I'll let them know that I'll have one," he says. "So if you want it, that's great. I don't have an issue with that. But I'll only have one. And that works OK. But most of the time, I just refer people elsewhere."For some like Brossman at Complete in Box, though, it's worth it to suck it up and play the distribution game. He points out that certain items have even worse margins than new games, noting that he pays $29.90 for a Microsoft gift card that sells for $30. If a customer buys that with a credit card, his store loses money on the sale.
"I don't try to mislead my customers, but I'll let them know that I'll have one," he says. "So if you want it, that's great. I don't have an issue with that. But I'll only have one. And that works OK. But most of the time, I just refer people elsewhere."
For some like Brossman at Complete in Box, though, it's worth it to suck it up and play the distribution game. He points out that certain items have even worse margins than new games, noting that he pays $29.90 for a Microsoft gift card that sells for $30. If a customer buys that with a credit card, his store loses money on the sale.
― bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 08:36 (eight years ago)
fell into a youtube hole last night watching a series called 'boundary break', where a guy pokes around in areas outside the limits of videogame spaces
super-dorky but i love this shit - here's the dark souls iii one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbaA6_84gyY&list=PLYfhW_P-MkU7vBmWwwyqdIWNDzXfEZwnO&index=24
― bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 08:40 (eight years ago)
directly related but not specifically about games - http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-08-04-bungies-13-year-battle-to-kill-crunch-culture
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 6 August 2017 00:25 (eight years ago)
"A lot of people get burned out because they don't take the vacation, so as a manager part of your job is to make sure they do," Timmins said. "Leadership needs to set examples. It can take years for a culture to develop; for people to believe it's okay to take a vacation, that it's not a crazy crunch culture where something bad is going to happen when they come back."
i wish i could staple this to my PMs' foreheads (i don't work in games, but i am a software dev; at one point this summer i worked 29 days in a row, and we still haven't launched)
― the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Sunday, 6 August 2017 02:43 (eight years ago)
good article. hope people in the business read it!
― Nhex, Sunday, 6 August 2017 18:17 (eight years ago)
https://gamehistory.org/aladdin-source-code/
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 15 October 2017 17:43 (eight years ago)
https://kotaku.com/the-runescape-players-who-farm-gold-so-they-dont-starve-1819720013
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 15:31 (eight years ago)
herne bay arcade, kent. not rly heavy on video games but there’s some good vignettes:http://www.seasphotography.org.uk/search/results/6b8242cef3ec13ea3a46da0b9e2ecbf7
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 19:34 (eight years ago)
https://splendorsvendor.wordpress.com/2017/03/28/behold-a-paleblood-sky/
― chihuahuau, Sunday, 5 November 2017 22:11 (eight years ago)
https://kotaku.com/one-of-the-most-famous-faces-on-twitch-refuses-to-let-t-1820333034
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 11 November 2017 20:40 (eight years ago)
good one
― Nhex, Sunday, 12 November 2017 02:32 (eight years ago)
So the developers behind one the first idle RPGs to take off have announced they’re abandoning the free-to-play model because it’s unethical:http://www.clickerheroes2.com/paytowin.php
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 25 November 2017 19:42 (eight years ago)
Regarding Metal Gear Solid samples in Burial's 'Untrue'.
https://kottke.org/17/12/the-making-of-burials-untrue
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:12 (eight years ago)
Not a whole lot on Metal Gear Solid, but thanks for linking that, lots I didn't know yet
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:11 (eight years ago)
this is not "worth reading" but is it weird that i think Tim Rogers is my favorite person to hear talk about videogames? is anyone else a tim rogers fan?
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:41 (eight years ago)
Where be the kingfish
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:58 (eight years ago)
me, usually
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 16 December 2017 02:44 (eight years ago)
Tim Rogers and his little lackey wanted to fight me and my friend at an E3 party because he was wasted and mad we didn't know who he was
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 December 2017 03:30 (eight years ago)
hah! that sounds right.
― Nhex, Saturday, 16 December 2017 07:14 (eight years ago)
yeah i read/listen to everything he does. i highly recommend the "violence island" podcasts. they are basically battle royales styled after grade school playground debates (basically: who would win in a fight, X or Y). my favorite moment was during a battle between Flubber and Bo Jackson, the two merge together and become the unstoppable Flubbo Jackson.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 16 December 2017 20:10 (eight years ago)
like some sort of overdriven bo jackson
― crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 16 December 2017 20:57 (eight years ago)
i like tim rogers's more recent content. met him a couple times at pax and he seemed alright
― ciderpress, Saturday, 16 December 2017 21:00 (eight years ago)
yeah he has a pretty cool series on Kotaku about translating FFVII
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 16 December 2017 21:17 (eight years ago)
can't find violence island?
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 December 2017 21:56 (eight years ago)
the original podcast was hosted at www.earthblows.com. the site is down now but you can still find the archived shows:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160304064152/http://earthblows.com/
there are also some recent ones on youtube. this is the Christmas 2016 episode, "Violent Night", where they pit all the movie Santa Clauses against each other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NYA0KlWoY4
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 16 December 2017 22:27 (eight years ago)
the first episode of Violence Island has Godzilla vs. Tinkerbell i believe. they argue that she could either fly into his nasal cavity and disconnect his brain or explode his heart from within, or that she could sprinkle dust on him and cause him to float away (winning her the match by ring-out). when her character's homicidal tendencies were questioned they looked to her temper and the low key jealousy and violence shown towards Wendy in the "Peter Pan" film.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 16 December 2017 22:37 (eight years ago)
tink could also shoot godzilla with a gun
― crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 17 December 2017 07:29 (eight years ago)
or oversalt his tater tots after swapping his high blood pressure meds with sugar pills
― crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 17 December 2017 07:32 (eight years ago)
I love Tim Rogers’ content and also I have a crush on him.
― .oO (silby), Sunday, 17 December 2017 19:16 (eight years ago)
the classic content-supplemented crush
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 17 December 2017 19:37 (eight years ago)