Of Deathclaws & Radscorpions: A Fallout Thread

I EXPECTED MORE.

I have been playing this and like every other one of these games I am finding it "slightly more fun than doing nothing at all" so I ended up wasting double-digit hours on it this weekend. Ugh, it makes me so annoyed... it keeps pulling me along but I don't feel like I'm getting anything from it at all. Like, can I think of anything memorable from my time playing this weekend? I remember (REDACTED) because it's the last thing I did. I remember very little. (to find out what REDACTED is, check the keys to the immediate left of the ones i use right now: bsi;y rohjyu pmr.)

I'm up to like 40+ hrs in, just found the button to set up supply routes between settlements after taking the Local Leader perk. They really hide this shit, don't they? All they needed was just a little screenshot pop-up showing the new option, that's it.

Laser rifles are far more effective and quick-to-fire than I remember them ever being.

Still digging the "each Vault is its own short story" construction

http://fallout4map.com/

Eff me, there really are 20 bobbleheads, aren't there.

Also, one would think that with a New England region that's been heavily isolated and is culturally(if not genetically) inbred, the accents in this game would be sharper(and far more comical).

Related fun bit that I can't remember if I've posted already: Codsworth/Mr Handy/Gutsy's voice also does Garret from the Thief games.

How does the dude protagonist voice work out in the game do you guys think? I'm fine with Courtney Taylor, especially since I mostly voice the A/Y-button options. Doesn't hit my aesthetic tastes as much as Jennifer Hale, but very few could be.

Oh yeah, and just remembered we live in a universe where Sheena Easton voiced a Black Isle character.

building your own apocalyptic bunker is the killer app here imo. scrapping is dangerously compulsive. cleaning up trash is the most fun ive had in the game yet. its a brilliant idea, deconstructing the world and making a new one in its place.

then again i learned there are like 30 settlements. so actually doing that would take forever..

I wonder if the settlement-building is more fun on the PC, because on the PS4 it feels like I'm trying to do brain surgery in oven mitts

deconstructing the world and making a new one in its place.

Yeah, I want the ability to clean up scrub brush, re-paint, re-tile, and re-form the Wasteland to finally bring about some sort of Art Deco/Googie dream.

yeah, that's my dilemma as well. i enjoy the settlement idea but it boggles my mind that they'd implement it so poorly (on the consoles at least)

Fallout Minecraft sounds like the worst thing ever.

Yeah, cuz it had the word "Minecraft" in it. An Anno/Sim-tycoon-type game work work better.

Also found a bug in weapon renaming. The name will display in mixed-case in your inv, but pops up in all-caps and will save in all-caps if you don't change it.

I just escaped the vault. The tutorial at least is the most involving, interesting game tutorial I've played in a really, really long time. I also love the character creation process and didn't realize I could have made the female character look like my wife (although as soon as I got into the tutorial I was really fucking glad I hadn't)

game has finally grabbed me, could play a whole game based around Nick Valentine Investigates tbh.

Realized this weekend that the "noodle cup" is of course a Blade Runner ref

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level 3
power armor is awesome
haven't been anywhere
killed by deathclaw

Stay on the roof, or fast travel home to repair your armor first

is there a good video on the very basics of this settling/workshop stuff? ive been asked to build beds in sanctuary but it seems real unwieldy and vague - where do they want them? i cant put stuff all that far away. whole thing takes too long for a non-sims guy like me

once you've opened up the workshop you can walk around anywhere. put the beds in a house. remember you can scrap like everything for materials

Yeah, I just flung beds & mattresses everywhere like it was a punk squat. I think you can improve happiness by also building items that have the little yellow numbers under them in the build menu.

Also, you can assign non-active companions to tasks, so Codworth can start earning his keep on a scavenger station, for example.

I tried to stay on the roof but the DC was down the street and wouldn't come to me...so I went down and he got glitch-caught in a wall and was able to just pummel him with the minigun. I didn't mind the minor cheat - I'm not sure how bethesda expects you to kill one so early on.

xposts, thanks, will give it another go. what does it do for the game, is it just the ability to make better weapons and items? don't want to spend half my game time crafting so aiming to do the minimum needed

if you stay up on the roof, the battle is fairly easy (although drawn out). i got him down to about a 1/3 health from the roof, and then when he disappeared behind buildings and wouldn't come back, i dropped onto the ground and took out his remaining health from a moderate distance.

what does it do for the game

it gives you power armor, which you'll probably need to get through areas later in the game. (i assume. i haven't used the power armor since the deathclaw battle because i'm overly stingy and don't want to use up my power cores for some reason)

it also kicks off the minutemen line of quests

I'm one of the noobs who didn't understand the perk chart. Thought you had to max levels before getting the next. Thank god for console commands.

It seems like the Minutemen castle mission has some higher level baddies around it. Is that supposed to be a hint or am I just taking a bad route?

If you're getting killed too much, you might be hitting that point too early in your play cycle. I haven't gotten to the castle yet.

the game generally tells you you need to grind when you get exploded by super mutants or crazy ass bugs youve never seen before rek u

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1390/?

Replace the framed paintings with Bob Ross' work

love the thoreau reference

so if/when i get this, should i maybe get it for mac instead of ps4?

or... wait... is this not ON mac?

it is not on mac

ah, i see. this is my first full year as a mac owner, was not aware it's notoriously a non-mac game. well sony it is then.

first mod installed: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235/

really enjoying this. stringing electrical wire is extremely satisfying. the first fallout in which i've gone into ruins, and had adventures, because i'm out of copper wiring, or aluminum cans. that is a coup i think. lots of things about it are much better than they were in f3, including the brotherhood of steel, who are still the eastern-chapter goody-goods of f3 (and fallout:tactics) but who are also allowed to be kind of ominous in their omnipresence. (unless you join them, in which case you must feel reassured when you hear the vertibirds growling. like-a-buncha-big-grass-hoppers.) seems like it's poised to be remembered as a Disappointing Sequel and it is definitely a conservative one but it is a much better rendering of bethesda's fallout (blander, wider, gapingly open in comparison to black isle's or oblivion's--tho should note i do not know what kind of stuff this game is gonna do storywise, later) than f3 was, and a much better argument for it imo.

it is true that the settlement interface is a nightmare. if you have experience with playing these games modded it's also a nightmare in a specific awkward way that makes it feel really really like something bolted on by a mod. yet because it makes every piece of garbage in the world a potential motive, it is also the heart of the game. o bethesda.

also i fought a legendary super mutant on top of a skyscraper in the rain and he yelled HUMAN TIME IS DONE! NOW... IS THE AGE... OF THE SUPER MUTANT!!!!. i liked that.

the whole dense urban part of the map is just wonderful

yeah, going in and out of buildings and clambering up to destroyed upper levels and jumping from roof to roof. iirc f3's city center was mostly piles of rubble.

I now want a fallout where you play as a super mutant

not being forced to navigate an endless subway system makes things a lot better imo

what kind of underground areas are there then? and are there any giant fire ants or are those native to the dc area

memory is iffy but the quest in f3 where some mad scientist living in the sewers asked you to poison/mini-nuke/spare the bus-sized ant queen was one of the best

there are some sewer and subway maps but you aren't forced to go through them to access different parts of the city (i believe f3 worked like this because the engine couldn't handle having too much city available at once)

i dreaded the metro maps in f3, they were unpleasant and 90% exactly the same and i could never remember which ones i'd already been through

in f4 they're like any other dungeon. dungeons in general are more linear in f4 which is fine by me and probably other extremely thorough players who have to make absolute certain they've checked under every nook in every room. those f3 subways (and vaults tbh) drove me nuts.

every time i return to sanctuary (i finally did double back there, after building up a fort somewhere else; it's much more defensible than my first settlement, not that i've really had any problems there either) i find a dead body or two on the perimeter. chuckled in grim satisfaction when it was raiders, but once it was just some guy in rags with a mangy dog. felt conflicted as i threw him in the river to float away with the rest.

otm about the f3 metros. classic rpg notion--city/sewers--but it was a trick; eventually you twigged that it was just a way of rendering d.c. as five or six discrete medium-sized zones with identical linear tunnels between them and rubble hemming you in everywhere else. f4 boston so far is liberating; on top of it being an actual continuous map there was very little in either f3 or fnv that had this kind of porousness between exteriors+interiors, even though there should have been because ruins. have had some fights in f4 that felt a lil like the chase scenes in the third man.

fnv had good sewers, btw: sewers that existed beneath coherent abovegrounds and could actually serve as alternate routes, or shortcuts, altho there wasn't a whole lot of reason to use them.

man, maybe it's time to go back to fnv. i can come in on f4 when it's been thoroughly wiki-ed and i am like three laptops down the line.

the game people are describing--the game of scrappy post-apocalyptic town-building and dungeon-raiding--sounds like one i would love to play as a roguelike but have little interest in playing as an FPS. is that fair?

maybe, although you can play it more like an RPG with the VATS system where you slow the action and are given a % on possible hits etc. if it was a straight FPS I probably would never have got into the series.
ran into a weird bug the other day where guns suddenly stopped doing damage, watched a dog very slowly take down 2 Brotherhood dudes who were firing their laser rifles at point blank range and missing every time. pretty funny until I had to reload a save from the day before and lost a bunch of progress.