Of Deathclaws & Radscorpions: A Fallout Thread

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Is the game designed so that you are supposed to melee attack people more often, at least in the beginning? I have a very strong character with the melee attach perk, but it still seems impossible to use that against packs of feral mutants (I've tried).

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Sunday, 15 November 2015 17:09 (ten years ago)

Is the key, early on, to avoid the side missions and just head straight for the main quests (I've yet to go to Diamond City, for instance)? I played FO3 but had a lot of the same issues I'm having now with regards to ammo scarcity.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Sunday, 15 November 2015 17:12 (ten years ago)

I haven't had any ammo problems. I think that's because a. I've been scavenging/searching thoroughly and finding caches, as well as of course hitting up all dead bodies for more ammo and gear, and b. Check what guns you're using. You have a few different weapons running off different ammo types and some might be more plentiful than others. I love the shotgun but it runs off shells which I rarely have. Ditto .308 which powers some powerful guns I have. By contrast I have like 328x .38 and plenty of weapons (which mostly aren't my favorite) that run off it. I rarely use melee weapons; I'd rather hit enemies with the butt of my gun when we get too close. Also I try to use VATS whenever it's up which can help conserve ammo if you use it correctly (and make use of the criticals). I also have not been to Diamond City and instead hitting up all the locations between there and the opening on the map.

Mordy, Sunday, 15 November 2015 17:17 (ten years ago)

Was the grocery store the mart thingy, like from the earlier game? Because I just activated the bot and let it take care of a lot of them.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Sunday, 15 November 2015 19:11 (ten years ago)

me2

Mordy, Sunday, 15 November 2015 19:12 (ten years ago)

do the settings you can give them matter? i made mine a medical drone bc i thought maybe he'd heal me but i think maybe it just gives them a different set of responses + the same behavior

Mordy, Sunday, 15 November 2015 19:12 (ten years ago)

I picked security? or law enforcement? No idea how it affected the behaviour though.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Sunday, 15 November 2015 19:46 (ten years ago)

ammo's been fine for me even on hard. it's vats. espesh the crits, which are really useful.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 15 November 2015 19:56 (ten years ago)

and espesh w things like the feral mutants who move so fast and erratically. you need to hit them in the head.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 15 November 2015 19:56 (ten years ago)

(ghouls.)

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 15 November 2015 19:57 (ten years ago)

built a two-story house out of walls/floor/ceiling pieces, gave it a little balcony on the second floor and put a couch there so i can sit and watch the sunsets. still keep forgetting to pick up enough coffee mugs to build a radio beacon.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 15 November 2015 20:01 (ten years ago)

stop making this game sound awesome

i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 15 November 2015 20:06 (ten years ago)

If feral ghouls were a way for them to incorporate zombies into a game, then the synths add another fun bit. I got into a fight with what are effectively _Terminators_ and it was awesome

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Sunday, 15 November 2015 20:24 (ten years ago)

All the enemies seem much more dangerous in this one.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Sunday, 15 November 2015 20:31 (ten years ago)

Useful:

https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3shl9i/fallout_4_tips_everyone_should_know/

E.g. Settlement people can farm up to 6 food at a time.

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Sunday, 15 November 2015 20:36 (ten years ago)

All the enemies seem much more dangerous in this one.

that reddit list says there is no level scaling, so if true as in fnv there will just be some dangerous places to be (until there are no dangerous places). iirc f3 had a combo where the super mutants in the city were pretty hard to kill early on but almost everything else leveled up with you like oblivion.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 15 November 2015 21:46 (ten years ago)

answer to this karl malone question from days ago--

problem is, if you're trying to build things you're probably carrying all your junk items with you, and if you're like me that means you'll be encumbered. so you sloooooooowly walk around the complex to build things, carrying all your extra shit with you because you need it to build. right? is there an easier way? almost wish it would go into full-on simcity-esque city management when you're in settlement mode, to save on pointless travel time.

--is to put all your junk in your workshop bench; there is a special "store junk" key. then you can walk around the settlement and use it remotely.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 15 November 2015 21:48 (ten years ago)

sometimes you just have to make trips. and make sure your companion isn't picking up a bunch of 17 lb guns when you're not looking. also some items give you temporary carry weight boosts (grilled radstag i think)

that reddit list says there is no level scaling

there is definitely level scaling, just not everywhere

qualx, Sunday, 15 November 2015 22:48 (ten years ago)

yeah it's the radstag. also pocketed apparel is useful. i never fast travel anywhere in these games tho (well sometimes to my own location, to dislodge a glitching companion) so i am willing in a pinch to just crawl across the map.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 15 November 2015 23:19 (ten years ago)

oh man that sounds terrible. i hate the movement when overloaded. so sluggish. also i use fast travel all the time except when i'm just wandering the wasteland.

Mordy, Sunday, 15 November 2015 23:20 (ten years ago)

that reddit list says there is no level scaling

Right, I just mean that everything seems like a greater threat, I feel like I'm taking enemies much more seriously a lot earlier.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Sunday, 15 November 2015 23:57 (ten years ago)

Tonight a friend was going through dungeons using some kind of metal knuckles and V.A.T.S. to target his punches in slow motion. It was pretty funny.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 16 November 2015 00:22 (ten years ago)

You can make spiked boxing gloves!

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Monday, 16 November 2015 08:46 (ten years ago)

That David Ortiz mod sucks. He bats right-handed.

nerd shit (Will M.), Monday, 16 November 2015 15:33 (ten years ago)

See, that's why the MLB was upset!

Even tho this is the alt-universe Ortiz

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Monday, 16 November 2015 16:23 (ten years ago)

I EXPECTED MORE.

I have been playing this and like every other one of these games I am finding it "slightly more fun than doing nothing at all" so I ended up wasting double-digit hours on it this weekend. Ugh, it makes me so annoyed... it keeps pulling me along but I don't feel like I'm getting anything from it at all. Like, can I think of anything memorable from my time playing this weekend? I remember (REDACTED) because it's the last thing I did. I remember very little. (to find out what REDACTED is, check the keys to the immediate left of the ones i use right now: bsi;y rohjyu pmr.)

nerd shit (Will M.), Monday, 16 November 2015 16:36 (ten years ago)

I'm up to like 40+ hrs in, just found the button to set up supply routes between settlements after taking the Local Leader perk. They really hide this shit, don't they? All they needed was just a little screenshot pop-up showing the new option, that's it.

Laser rifles are far more effective and quick-to-fire than I remember them ever being.

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Monday, 16 November 2015 17:32 (ten years ago)

Still digging the "each Vault is its own short story" construction

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Monday, 16 November 2015 17:32 (ten years ago)

http://fallout4map.com/

i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Monday, 16 November 2015 17:40 (ten years ago)

Eff me, there really are 20 bobbleheads, aren't there.

Also, one would think that with a New England region that's been heavily isolated and is culturally(if not genetically) inbred, the accents in this game would be sharper(and far more comical).

Related fun bit that I can't remember if I've posted already: Codsworth/Mr Handy/Gutsy's voice also does Garret from the Thief games.

How does the dude protagonist voice work out in the game do you guys think? I'm fine with Courtney Taylor, especially since I mostly voice the A/Y-button options. Doesn't hit my aesthetic tastes as much as Jennifer Hale, but very few could be.

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Monday, 16 November 2015 18:09 (ten years ago)

Oh yeah, and just remembered we live in a universe where Sheena Easton voiced a Black Isle character.

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Monday, 16 November 2015 18:10 (ten years ago)

building your own apocalyptic bunker is the killer app here imo. scrapping is dangerously compulsive. cleaning up trash is the most fun ive had in the game yet. its a brilliant idea, deconstructing the world and making a new one in its place.

then again i learned there are like 30 settlements. so actually doing that would take forever..

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 16 November 2015 18:14 (ten years ago)

I wonder if the settlement-building is more fun on the PC, because on the PS4 it feels like I'm trying to do brain surgery in oven mitts

nerd shit (Will M.), Monday, 16 November 2015 18:20 (ten years ago)

deconstructing the world and making a new one in its place.

Yeah, I want the ability to clean up scrub brush, re-paint, re-tile, and re-form the Wasteland to finally bring about some sort of Art Deco/Googie dream.

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Monday, 16 November 2015 18:31 (ten years ago)

yeah, that's my dilemma as well. i enjoy the settlement idea but it boggles my mind that they'd implement it so poorly (on the consoles at least)

Karl Malone, Monday, 16 November 2015 18:32 (ten years ago)

Fallout Minecraft sounds like the worst thing ever.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 16 November 2015 18:48 (ten years ago)

Yeah, cuz it had the word "Minecraft" in it. An Anno/Sim-tycoon-type game work work better.

Also found a bug in weapon renaming. The name will display in mixed-case in your inv, but pops up in all-caps and will save in all-caps if you don't change it.

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Monday, 16 November 2015 19:30 (ten years ago)

I just escaped the vault. The tutorial at least is the most involving, interesting game tutorial I've played in a really, really long time. I also love the character creation process and didn't realize I could have made the female character look like my wife (although as soon as I got into the tutorial I was really fucking glad I hadn't)

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 16 November 2015 20:35 (ten years ago)

game has finally grabbed me, could play a whole game based around Nick Valentine Investigates tbh.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 16 November 2015 20:55 (ten years ago)

Realized this weekend that the "noodle cup" is of course a Blade Runner ref

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Monday, 16 November 2015 21:44 (ten years ago)

http://gfycat.com/SlimLeafyGorilla

i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:43 (ten years ago)

level 3
power armor is awesome
haven't been anywhere
killed by deathclaw

wack wingtips, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 02:26 (ten years ago)

Stay on the roof, or fast travel home to repair your armor first

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 03:42 (ten years ago)

is there a good video on the very basics of this settling/workshop stuff? ive been asked to build beds in sanctuary but it seems real unwieldy and vague - where do they want them? i cant put stuff all that far away. whole thing takes too long for a non-sims guy like me

NI, Thursday, 19 November 2015 00:16 (ten years ago)

once you've opened up the workshop you can walk around anywhere. put the beds in a house. remember you can scrap like everything for materials

Mordy, Thursday, 19 November 2015 00:18 (ten years ago)

Yeah, I just flung beds & mattresses everywhere like it was a punk squat. I think you can improve happiness by also building items that have the little yellow numbers under them in the build menu.

Also, you can assign non-active companions to tasks, so Codworth can start earning his keep on a scavenger station, for example.

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Thursday, 19 November 2015 00:44 (ten years ago)

I tried to stay on the roof but the DC was down the street and wouldn't come to me...so I went down and he got glitch-caught in a wall and was able to just pummel him with the minigun. I didn't mind the minor cheat - I'm not sure how bethesda expects you to kill one so early on.

calstars, Thursday, 19 November 2015 03:44 (ten years ago)

xposts, thanks, will give it another go. what does it do for the game, is it just the ability to make better weapons and items? don't want to spend half my game time crafting so aiming to do the minimum needed

NI, Thursday, 19 November 2015 15:45 (ten years ago)

if you stay up on the roof, the battle is fairly easy (although drawn out). i got him down to about a 1/3 health from the roof, and then when he disappeared behind buildings and wouldn't come back, i dropped onto the ground and took out his remaining health from a moderate distance.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 November 2015 15:47 (ten years ago)

what does it do for the game

it gives you power armor, which you'll probably need to get through areas later in the game. (i assume. i haven't used the power armor since the deathclaw battle because i'm overly stingy and don't want to use up my power cores for some reason)

it also kicks off the minutemen line of quests

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 November 2015 15:49 (ten years ago)


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