Of Deathclaws & Radscorpions: A Fallout Thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7BQqt-jhhw

Unpacking now. Wish I would have remember to install all this to the SSD first.

i'm glad bethesda's char model creator caught up to mario 64!

Vault Tec salesman modeled after Harry Dean Stanton, only with far creepier mouth articulation.

they deflated special! i think! i was very confused. it was deflated to begin with; imagine how confused the d&d kids are.

meanwhile elder scrolls stats are all like 72.

picking stuff up is definitely improved.

as the wife (accident, but going with it) i was very resistant to the vault idea, but guess how much my opinion counted with "nate".

"quick look"

1:22:11

Digging it, minus the weird character mouth animations and the fact that I don't know what the threshholds for speech checks are. As a speech-heavy player who was taught thru several Black Isle games, I don't like not knowing what the speech thresholds should be.

Thresholds for speech checks?

i finally got the hang of the base-building system after an embarassingly long period of total confusion last night - it adds a pretty interesting new mechanic to the game

Speech checks, which looked like this in FO3

http://s700.photobucket.com/user/gtg633w/media/fallout3_lp/03_Goat/067.jpg.html

speech checks: you try the jedi mind trick, and if you don't pass the speech skill threshold they gun you down like a raider in the street

P. Much.

Also, can't get the phone app to connect to my game, even with the setting enabled. Wonder if it's a Windows firewall/public network thing.

last time i played f1 i put my int just at the threshold of dumb and took the "night person" perk, so i could pass speech checks at night but not in the daytime. highly recommended.

hell, add an alcohol dependency and... me irl

nuka-cola quantum hasn't made it out to the big island target yet. considered buying some spam instead as a kind of diy tie-in, but (a) it wouldn't be CRAM and (b) i'd like to keep my consumption on a musubi basis

DLH where did you move to? You were in Portland for years, right?

i went back to vvardenfell.

(i live in my hometown which is on the east coast of the largest hawaiian island. i have an actual savings account these days so the inchoate plane is to leave, again, soon, probably, unless i buy land, or possibly, ideal scenario, even if i buy land.)

the dog in this is pretty cool!

(on the other hand they sure shove you into power armor fast. my battery ran out and i'm hoping they don't give me another one for a long time, but even so it was very DON'T GET BORED, EVENTUALLY YOU'LL BE A GOD LIKE ALWAYS, WE PROMISE)

Yeah, Gerstmann mentioned that, too. As if they were either over-correcting for FO3's delayed usage of the dog and power armor or just reaaaallly wanting to draw attention to these things they dumbed a lot of time into.

The users have spoken:

http://i.imgur.com/9qrch0L.jpg

I don't think I currently have any system set up that can play this sucker. By the time I do, all the bugs will be fixed, or at least enough. Thank you all for beta testing this for me.

http://files.shanelenzen.com/fix-fallout-4.html

How to make Fallout 4 PC not feel like shit
Fix an otherwise amazing game. INIs are located in C:\Users\{YOUR NAME}\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\
Problem 1: Mouse aiming feels like shit because of mouse acceleration
Open both Fallout4.ini and Fallout4Prefs.ini
In the [Controls] section of both files, add this line:
bMouseAcceleration=0
Problem 2: Mouse aiming still feels like shit because vertical sensitivity is half as much as horizontal (seriously Bethesda?)
Open Fallout4.ini
In the [Controls] section, find fMouseHeadingXScale
On the next line, make fMouseHeadingYScale 2x the amount of fMouseHeadingXScale
Problem 3: The FOV is locked at 70/80 because you're playing this on a couch from 8 feet away with a controller, right? Oh, you aren't?
Open both Fallout4.ini and Fallout4Prefs.ini
In the [Display] section of both files, add the following lines:
fDefaultWorldFOV=90
fDefault1stPersonFOV=90
90 is the default FOV of most FPS games, but you can change that to whatever makes you happy
♥ greyfell

This should actually solve the weird FOV vibe I was getting last night.

For those so inclined, check the user reviews on MC for the PC version of the game. Note the contrast in 0-review #s between that one & the console releases.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fallout-4/user-reviews

As someone on SA mentioned today, "These are the people who hated _Fury Road_."

tbf, we alone expect all bugs to be fixed and everything bethesda left out (food/drink requirements etc) to be put back in.

True.

Its perhaps not the best expectation, but it is one with plenty of evidence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx8_pI3utlk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYV8Y9Ywh8

I think this counts as advertorial?

stuff like this has me worried :(

The dialogue is beyond simplified and therefore the core of RPG lore and world-building has been eradicated almost entirely. The dialogue "options" aren't informative at all and on top of that, the game's writing is putrid. The player character's voice is even predetermined for you and nothing you do actually alters the direction of the game's narrative. This doesn't deliver the masterful narrative potential Fallout has and initially strove to achieve.

There is no choice and consequence, no reputation changes from your actions, and no feedback to anything you do. "Freedom" means nothing in an RPG when none of your available actions mean anything. I find this particularly disheartening since it saps me of any motivation to do anything when the narrative provided for those actions is not only weak, but nothing I do matters. What's truly astounding is that Bethesda actually regressed in this area since the days of Morrowind or even Oblivion where at least a basic reputation system existed and guards hailed me as the Champion of the Arena or something.

The gunplay and actual gameplay beyond dialogue and decision-branching don’t fare much better. This game is too simplified in every way right down to leveling-up and the lack of a proper RPG difficulty curve (ie. start weak, play a lot, progressively get better). The game's internal logic is highly inconsistent and the world is most certainly not immersive as a result.

i mean i was gonna wait until after a few patches before i bought it so the bugs/framerate are not a huge deal for me. but if they just added on some "of the moment" features like settlement building/management and minigun sequences, without pushing themselves creatively in storytelling, then that'd be very disappointing.

this kind of has that feeling that the last mass effect and mgs games gave, just stripping away what made them unique in an attempt to be everything to everyone.

but its still early, i know.

haven't you heard, the last mgs game was the best game ever and anyone who doesn't think that it gives you several hundred hours of exactly what you want out of a videogame isn't a Real Gamer

i mean the above is what i thought of 3, which i can see myself coming to prefer this to, even though it was obvious from the first scene that this is not going to be doing new vegas. from the first two hours this is probably not sufficiently different or innovative to re-charm people who loved 3 but who knows what is to come. the game definitely just sort of throws quests at you and every npc you meet assumes you are a reliable+available fixer. this is of course a feature of rpgs in general but what i've seen so far seems particularly artless on this front.

i do think the graphics have improved a lot more than the (console) reviews say they have. people's teeth/lips situations are all fucked up but the brighter colors really work imo, the contrast between the peppy prewar hues and the dead trees everywhere is much better than 3's green haze or fnv's commitment to making everything orange. i also appreciate that there are so many trees; it distinguishes "the commonwealth" from wastelands past. character behavior is nicer; your dog runs ahead and doubles back and radroaches crawl up vertical surfaces and molerats burst out of the ground etc.

i do much prefer the idea of having grown up in a vault and seeing the outside world for the first time to your character's origin story in this (like basically she is in the vault for 90 seconds of experienced time) altho i get why they wanted some variety (and, probably more importantly sigh, a big opening armageddon setpiece). but i like imagining my character totally mystified and overawed by things like the skeletal freeways. the iron-age greeks called it cyclopean, because who else could have built it. anyway today i found walden pond and eavesdropped on one raider telling another about thoreau. don't hate this.

probably the worst reaction i've had to anything in it so far is "oh good, a skill tree".

today i found walden pond and eavesdropped on one raider telling another about thoreau

this sounds cute

toh the graphics stuff sounds like you are mistakenly evaluating 'graphics' on properties of 'aesthetic appeal' and not 'technical accomplishment', marking you as another Fake Gamer get out

Beginning to wonder if "hard" is too difficult for an ideal first playthru.

Inventory mgmt is bleah right now, but like with everything else, I am content knowing it will get fixed or modded.

Kinda amused by the old lady you feed street drugs to to power her precog abilities. If she were a child or a special person, this would be Stephem King-like.

Voice-log holotapes are an interesting way to expand how they give background info, but it'd be better just doing straight audio logs you pick up and listen to wandering on to the next place,

so i installed and started this up last night. i got up until the protag escapes from the vault in the very beginning and then got too tired and shut it off. the opening is not very strong and it definitely takes way too long to actually get to the meat of the game. i plan to play more tnite - i hope it goes better.

I did the same thing - played until the end of the vault, then stopped because it was late.

i played up until just getting to the first town. the settlement stuff had me a bit "meh", probably because its a bit overwhelming right out of the gate. but the rest of it I thought was great. like the main character speaking and the more personal story-line.

i let brad shoemaker's enthusiasm sway me and look what i get. More Bethesda Game.

Anyone using the app while playing the game?

i went to best buy yesterday and left with... nba 2k16. i wasn't ready for the fallout

i also got to the first settlement and quit for the night.

for some reason the way the character says "Excuse me" and "Hey" and "Hello there" as the default interaction really, really cracks me up. the end of the world is nigh and families are scrambling and he's like "Hello there"

xp 2k16 is a solid choice, the spike lee joint main story is a little weird in places, but the rest of the mechanics are good.

i made some beds and a couple water pumps and logged off rather than wait to harvest & replant melons again. so far game seems promising, i am personally not to chagrined about quick progression (splitting little game time with several games) and i actually enjoy the opening story and progression thus far. interested to see where it goes from here, not sure what to expect at this pt

Beginning to wonder if "hard" is too difficult for an ideal first playthru.

been wondering the same; bullet sponges really break mimesis.

i also kind of have the sense the game expects you to play as the guy, because he is a soldier, but i'm playing as the housewife, and every hypertrophied marine type i meet sends me on dangerous errands. it is a little weird.

so, that village building game within a game (i don't know the official name yet - the one where you can craft a bunch of things, houses, beds, items, whatever). is it worth doing? i haven't messed around with it yet, but i'm trying to figure out if it's worth using my "junk" items on it and if there's any benefit to doing so, or if it's just a game within a game that'll keep obsessed people playing a bit longer to maximize their village or whatever.