Best Metal Gear poll

hahaha amazing

crazy that they don't make that clear and that it's secret
the madness surrounding this game has seduced me, i can see playing it in 2016

the fulton animations and sound effects are so unbelievably pleasing

i'm having a lot of fun with this. adam otm about night being easier (usually). i sort of suck at this, and one of the very earliest missions was just defeating me, but i waited til night and then boom walked right in. part of it has to do with light CUES, i.e. high-value areas are usually lit up so you don't waste time messing around with useless outbuildings.

lol i also decided to fire like half my guys cause they were "E" level in everything and suddenly my overall capability dropped and i'm unable to develop anything anymore. i guess shitty staff is better than no staff. i have ZERO idea about staff strategy and don't care; i hope that aspect of things doesn't become too important

I'm pretty sure when you get better soldiers they replace the worse ones automatically, cos yeah I made the same mistake!

my wife joined me on the couch for a while last night, just in time for the mission which introduces quiet. she was moderately interested in the sniper battle, then totally nonplussed when the ace sniper was revealed to be a woman in a bikini and ripped tights, whose prone form the camera shamelessly ogled.

it's really fucking embarrassing that kojima has created this beautiful, absurd, incredibly fun world to play in but every now and again he's going to take control of the action for TITSTITSTITS

male gaze solid morelike amirite

well, he's always put some "sexy/silly" aspects and innuendos in MGS. like the p0rn magazines, the crazy peep sessions in MGS3...
it's part of the game !

yeah, it's a shitty, tiresome part of some of the best games ever made and it's not at all just 'part of the game' - there's nothing in these games that's not a result of a deliberate choice by the developer. kojima has chosen to bundle leering sexism into these games and it's fucking uncomfortable to be forced to take time out from messing around with this game's utterly sublime mechanics to stare at some tits for minutes at a time.

yeah sure but just like many other cut scenes that are so long and unnecessary (I don't know about this one but the previous ones...).

you're right, bizarro (also the nurse's tits in the very opening cutscene) - but in the MGS series as a whole i'd say there's as much, possibly more, explicitly sexualized male leering? which is quite unusual for a video game

ahah, yeah, that's true !

i mean "leering at males" if that wasn't clear

I guess the idea is to make as many people uncomfortable and thinking "wtf" as possible, with all the silly ideas, including the creepy/sexy ones, throughout the games !

well and also to give the young male target demographic a stiffy by presenting women as sex objects, come on now

oh of course. hence the trolling with the same approach with some clearly homo-erotised scenes.

i don't think i'd say there was more leering at male characters but it is there for sure. however, there's not an entire team of traumatised men whose bodies are lingered over by the camera like the beauty and the beast squad in mgs iv, for example, and the sexualisation of men isn't compounded by the rest of the videogames industry's ongoing history of treating women like objects, so it's not exactly striking for a blow for equal opportunities to be focring gamers to look at raiden's butt every now and again or whatever.

i think what annoyed me most about the introduction of quiet was that, although i knew she was going to show up and it was going to suck, was that the mgsv is much less cutscene- and exposition-heavy so, fifteen hours into the game, i'd kinda managed to forget about the chest of the nurse from the prologue and enjoy tooling around the countryside with d-dog improvising my way through missions. quiet showing up and the game immediately going into TIIIIIIIITS mode was a real disappointment.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/287700/discussions/0/527273789700149875/

kojima obviously pervo nerd who loves boobs

the figurine has squeezable breasts

if ever there was a visionary video game creator who was likely to own a realdoll

yeah I suppose he might have real dolls of each of his heroines...

Solid Snake: Other people just complicate my life. I don't like to get involved.
Meryl Silverburgh: ...You're a sad, lonely man.

;_;

tbf he reproduces via cloning

Snake, that is. Kojima.... maybe someday

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--aNiuhLhY--/1419446399640225348.gif

related to the prior conversation:
http://boingboing.net/2015/09/07/the-queer-masculinity-of-steal.html

also that gif has made me add the game to my wishlist

ahah. great gif. so MGS...

it makes me think that in some of the sexy moments in the games there's also that off the wall and absurd approach.
like there's the obvious objectivization of the women's (and sometimes, men's) bodies but with a twist.
doesn't make it less creepy and problematic but... different from other misogynist games.

i want to agree with you but the games do nothing to question or subvert the general staring-at-tits proposition

yeah, as much as i might want to give kojima the benefit of the doubt after enjoying his games for two decades, there's really no qualitative difference between staring at tits for its own sake and staring at tits as part of some type of absurdist metagame whose rules and underpinning motivations are unclear and which might not actually exist at all.

I don't think it questions the "staring at tits", it simply plays with the idea and does it in a different way, maybe.
I don't know, these sequences seemed sillier than sexy in my memory but I don't really remember the other games and haven't played this one (yet !).

yessssssss

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nice

i still have my plain old fulton

this is going to be like a 100+ hour game isn't it

i'm only on mission 12 or something and i'm already like 24 hours in so yeah that seems entirely possible

(admittedly some of that runtime is leaving the console on while i'm waiting for a mother base expansion to be completed)

surely the phantom cigar would do the same thing?

nah, unfortunately you have to wait out the development in real time - the phantom cigar doesn't work to speed that stuff up, presumably so you don't end up building everything within the first couple of hours

in the MGS series as a whole i'd say there's as much, possibly more, explicitly sexualized male leering? which is quite unusual for a video game

Not unusual in videogames at all really. Maybe more pronounced but I think that may have to do with cultural differences between Japan and the US. You won't play Call of Duty and run into a 10 minute cutscene about the horrors of nuclear proliferation or philosophical debates on the nature of war because of this cultural difference either.

As for the series as a whole, go back and play MGS and it is filled with James Bond-style flirting and fawning and objectifying. It's part of the style. It's also designed to be played primarily by teenagers sitting in their room with all the free time in the world rather than a mature married couple staying in for the evening.

I mean the first MGS has a character named after Otaku, who are an entire class of shut-ins that favor that kind of stuff. Giant robots and giant tits. It's part of his audience.

I'd say it's much more mature aside from the costume. The writing is way less pandering to a male only view immo (in my male opinion). In the first game Snake is hitting on women as soon as they meet and they are in turn incessantly receptive to his advances. In TPP Big Boss meets Quiet as a buddy by first having to best her in combat. You can't kill her in this combat. Actually I think the very first time you meet her she is wearing full clothes also but not sure that may be a storyline thing.

I want to say more but don't want to spoil anything. Suffice to say she is integral to the story and gameplay in far more than a sex object way.

She's also apparently integral to wiping your save file based on what my friend said & what the daily updates said, y'all make sure you don't bring her as a buddy to either 'Mission 29' or 'Mission 42'.

ilg lookin out for ilg

sheesh it's true!

https://uk.secure.konami-europe.com/link/portal/30031/30044/Article/2809/Regarding-save-data-for-METAL-GEAR-SOLID-V-THE-PHANTOM-PAIN-becoming-corrupt-under-specific-circumstances

I'm taking my sweet time just spent half an hour walking around the zoo watching animals grace amongst flowers.

If you were gonna choose between this or The Witcher III?

This by miles. Witcher III seems cool but I don't really care for the story and the open world thing is much more locked in, this game really lets you goof off and go nuts. I remember the start of W3 was a pixel hunt in a room to advance some cutscene hence it really didn't start off on the right foot for me.

i should prob play ground zero first tho' yes? excellent indicator of how this plays?

did you miss it when it was on ps plus?

yeah tho ground zeroes is a LITTLE different but it's mostly representative + the space is actually a little cooler (albeit way smaller) than what i've seen so far in TPP. highly recommend GZ.

no, it's on my hard drive. if it's basically the same it should tell me whether to buy this or not... so thanks!