Of Deathclaws & Radscorpions: A Fallout Thread

you need to tear down all your low-end power plants and replace them with nuclear

I'm a few hours into F3 and unfortunately finding it super unengaging. I remember Skyrim being a little slow to start, too, but something just isn't clicking with this one. I'm basically only pressing on at this point because so many people have talked about it like it's one of the best games ever. But is there a point where things start to pick up? I'm currently in Megaton, and I'm thinking about setting off the bomb just to make things a little more interesting.

Go for it, that's one of the first choices you really make in the game.

you need to tear down all your low-end power plants and replace them with nuclear

― Upright Mammal (mh), Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:09 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why? just to do it? i mean its all just grind now -- nothing really left to do/discover

to make the optimal vault, the best vault

god I hope they create a cloning chamber

I've been playing New Vegas again the past few days. Apparently before I stopped playing I got to the final Hoover Dam battle but never actually did it because I wanted to wander around doing more stuff first. So since restarting it, I've just been wandering around doing more stuff. Maybe I'll never actually finish the game properly.

fuck a bunch of fallout shelter. the base game is pretty ridic easy isn't it? just keep the growth slow and give your best weapons to the guys closest to the vault door and it seems like nothing much can go wrong. the only thing that makes it interesting after a certain point seems to be gearing up--but the RNG for finding gear out in the wasteland is ridiculously stingy--and if you pay real $$$ to buy lunchboxes it is ridiculously generous. I feel like i'm playing Destiny again all of a sudden.

pretty much. if they don't add new content in phases it'll be dead in the water.

I don't even remember what happens if you try and set the bomb off, but if you read all my posts early in this thread you'll see I wasn't too shit hot at this game anyway.

I got better but still never finished it.

supposedly luck impacts the quality of wasteland drops? xxp

that would make sense. I have no idea what half the character aspects are.

I had a l35 character with 10 luck out there for 40 hours and she came back with garbage. Just...GARBAGE.

I take that back. I know what rooms S, P, A, and I are helpful for. Supposedly C is good for baby-making but I haven't seen a huge difference. C is good for staffing the radio room, but I still keep attracting all level 1 useless dudes.

All C does for the radio room is increase the chances of attracting a level 1 useless dude, far as I can tell. You don't always call in a new vaultee at all. Maybe high C and high L will contribute to an infinitesimal chance to attract a rare recruit, but I kinda doubt it.

Similarly all C does for the baby-making is increase the speed at which the two will pair up. Doesn't affect the outcome at all, I'm pretty sure.

E seems like the only stat that has a variety of genuinely useful uses (dying more slowly in the wasteland, dying more slowly in raids/emergencies, and working in the nuka-cola plant).

How the hell does a stat like agility do nothing but help the character work in the cafeteria? You get a ninja costume with a massive agility buff and basically that means the guy wearing it can make sandwiches more efficiently.

I'm not even sure that your weapon makes a difference in the wasteland. Seems like it's just level, endurance and (supposedly) luck. Fuck this game.

the cafeteria is for ninjas, for sure

Yeah, I'm deleting the game. A week in and I've gotten enough out of it, and the only real way to get prime wasteland schwag is to buy lunch boxes.

Still, I picked up Wasteland 2, that'll give me my fallout fix for a while.

Now my dudes aren't dying all the time I think I'm done with it too.

Enjoying Wasteland 2. Man, if I knew that this was them just doing an isometric follow-up to FO2, I'da bought this last year. I like how mechanics from Xcom and other games have been worked into the Infinity Engine-like template.

Also, in the first big town I was in, I saved a dog for a local, and found out that the other locals _reaaaaaallly_ don't take kindly to digging up graves.

(Note: graverobbing also a mechanic in this game. Naturally.)

I don't know if we reported it here, but Chris Avellone left Obsidian recently(which he'd helped found in 2003). Rumor has it he's heading over to inXile, makers of Wasteland 2(and run by Brian Fargo), who are working on a new Bards Tale game.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-09-chris-avellone-leaves-obsidian-entertainment

Did anyone find Wasteland 2 really hard, or am I just rubbish? I need to get back to it.

nah it's not too bad. i've had to reload a bunch when combats go south (esp when i hit a combat i wasn't prepared for and didn't prep w/ positioning & reloading) but it's not like playing nethack or anything.

can I just say that the sex/baby making mechanic in Fallout Shelter is super, super silly

no

i have lost track of who is the father of whom and worry there is some madd incest going on in my vault

it's like that tv series bakersfield pd

it's apparently impossible to have an incestuous relationship; the characters just hang out and say things like "oh it's so nice spending time with family"

ahahaha okay then i have unintentionally tried and failed to initiate incestuous couplings in my vault as i recognise that phrasing too well

i think like cousins can tho bc i've definitely matched up two residents with the same last name who were willing to reproduce

http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=27085

My response to that: who cares

If you’re one of those people that can’t stand to hear people say bad things about stuff you like, then this is going to be hard for you. I’ve broken the series into five parts to help soften the blow.

lol

I wish there was a Fallout game with all the random character depth and some of the shooting

news flash: video game story is sophomoric

it's almost as if the story is there to serve the gameplay

I don't think it would've been asking too much for him to provide links for counseling services at the end of each part of his exposé.

I agree with some of the points, tho; the tone I enjoyed so much from FO1&2 and later found again in New Vegas was that Fallout wasn't just about post-apoc shootiness, but that it was deliberately riffing on 50s retro-futurism. New Vegas was able to have far more of that in terms of design, architecture, commercial illustration, etc(Googie everywhere), along with a particular vibe of black humor.

Hopefully Bethesda can do some mid-course correction and mix in a bit more of that vibe with the new outing.

http://www.bethblog.com/2015/07/04/happy-4th-of-july-from-bethesda-game-studios/

Kinda weird alt-history panel. They do know that the Fallout-version of the US was far more blatantly militaristic(if not full-on fascist) that invaded & annexed all of Canada, right? Why would you wanna mix that with real world 4th of July stuff, unless even the official blog is doing some ARG thing due to minutemen being in the actual game?

http://cdnstatic.bethsoft.com/bethblog/2015/06/CHjmZbcXAAAVWvi.png

fallout shelter for android is trying to get me to log in via google play games which is trying to get me to open a public google+ account eat a diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick

Odd

http://www.dealzon.com/deals/fallout-4#fallout-4

pre-order deal from GMG at like 23% off, which is tempting, but after the last year plus of big AAA releases being jank-as-fuck on day 0, I ain't pre-ordering shit.

Plus I'll probably upgrade video cards later this year and most likely there'll be a coupon inside.

http://news.yahoo.com/buy-fallout-4s-nuka-cola-210240373.html

God help me but I will purchase some Nuka Cola Quantum, and I _never_ buy tie-in merch.

https://bethesda.net/data/images/event/31/fallout4_grognak_full.jpg

More Grognak comix!

https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/645985936006889472

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPcAVZ2WUAAKK8U.jpg:large

Eff it. Bit the bullet and used Amazon cred accrued from all those hotel rewards to pre-order the game.

That being said, Bethesda posted some interesting audio bits:

https://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/bringing-voice-to-fallout-4/2015/11/03/43

Interview with the protagonist's two voice-actors.

also, dig this:

https://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/facing-the-music-in-fallout-4/2015/11/02/42

They hired Lynda Carter as a voice and to perform some of the songs on the radio.

The sample song they include is ok, but waaaaayyy too hi-fi for my tastes. I'll wait for some modder to dirty up the track a bit.

did anyone read this?

http://kotaku.com/the-relentless-champions-of-classic-fallout-1715984448

Maybe you’re rolling your eyes at what seems like a bunch of grizzled men and women writing corrosive forum poetry about how PC gaming is ruined forever. But here’s the thing. No Mutants Allowed aren’t wrong. Fallout 3 is a massive departure from what that series meant in the mid-’90s. The NMA users’ cynicism may be loud, but you have to remember, this is about ownership. It’s a battle as old as time. The hardcores. The casuals. The blood runs deep. These people love Fallout, and they saw Fallout become something else. Yeah it’s just a video game, but that helplessness is profound.

It's really poorly written, and seems an exercise in proving how gaming as a culture creates spoiled manbabies with no sense of perspective.

the bland freelance prose of that article is a lot worse than any of the 100%-otm opinions expressed in it by bitter nerds

i preordered this too

The first comment is about how clunky the gameplay of Fallout/Fallout 2 is... which is true!

The cult Fallout people on the web are right to praise the characterization and setting of the originals, but even with a bunch of third-party community patches and hacks to get it running the way it "should" run, it's a pretty glitchy game. The new games are a much different thing and feel like a different franchise that's inspired by the previous one, but that's the world we have. Not that many people want to play something that reminds you that life is nasty, brutish, and short, and if they do, they want to be able to respawn a moment later.

really, they should look into playing that weird eastern european Stalker-ripoff mmo that cankles documented on ilx a long time back

or they can play wasteland 2 which is basically the faithful sequel to the original isometric games.

those original 2 games were amazing but anyone who hates f3 bc it isn't another isometric RPG is an idiot. f3 is fantastic.

i don't think anyone says that (or few admit it), it's often because they had the "easy" mode/scaling/grinding of Bethesda games.
i greatly enjoyed FO3 but I totally understand people who don't like their design philosophies