I saw Tom Green when I was a teenager, I thought it was funny for a month and moved on
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 20:50 (nine years ago) link
basically saying Biddle's article completely otm
― mh, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
this is all starting to remind me of my parents idiot ex-neighbor. he was on hold for a while after calling some company and as soon as he was able to talk to a representative, he made some "joke" to the effect of "Well, you wouldn't have had me on hold so long if I told you I put anthrax in your ventilation system."
This was around 2002. Said neighbor then proceeded to do some time in the federal penitentiary.
― mh, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
holy shit
― goole, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
The prison is part of the joke, it's a long-con.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link
oh boy I never actually googled thathttp://njlaw.rutgers.edu/collections/resource.org/fed_reporter/F3/381/381.F3d.404.html
― mh, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
The defendant also argues that § 2332a is an unconstitutional use of Congress's powers under the Commerce Clause.
what could go wrong
― goole, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link
Through the lens of GamerGate
― you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
IT WAS A GOOF
― lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
See now mh's neighb story is what pisses me off about all this. Guy makes one anthrax joke on the phone and gets time in the slammer.
Guys make endless, repeated, direct threats of death and rape to women online here and... nothing? Cops say 'stop looking at it'? People say "trolls wll b trolls"? Fucks sake.
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link
well, he did say this less than one month after someone sent anthrax to people in the US
― mh, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
whereas we're def at 31+ days without incident when it comes to violence against US women. good job USA!
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
that is... not what I was implying
― mh, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link
oh fuck is accuracy the standard for cheap zings now?
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 22:36 (nine years ago) link
wtf
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 23:04 (nine years ago) link
you used violence against women for a cheap zing? not parsing something right here.
― mh, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 01:45 (nine years ago) link
The difference between writing something on the internet and calling a 30-year-old national mortgage company and verbally saying something is pretty great. For one thing I'm sure Countrywide has a strict policy about what to do when someone says something like that. Their entire business is based around stability and mitigating risk.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:30 (nine years ago) link
Also LOL at the number 2 result when I googled Countrywide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countrywide_financial_political_loan_scandal
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:31 (nine years ago) link
But thats the point, why should it be? Why is it any less punishable on social media?
And for that matter, thats bollocks, given that kid who posted the cop and gun emojis on FB and got arrested for it.
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:37 (nine years ago) link
Social media is not reality
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:39 (nine years ago) link
because people don't think of words against women as imminent threats and local police are either uninformed, unequipped, or biased
federal action is a decent option and it looks like the FBI is in the loop on some recent cases, especially viable due to the interstate nature of internet threats.
women getting harmed as a result of a direct threat from strangers online should be actionable! but to an extent, local police are right -- harm comes usually from people known to the victim, and they're poorly trained to filter the outliers.
― mh, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:44 (nine years ago) link
also police are really self-protecting and reactionary, them construing anything other than praise as a threat is kind of their standard.
― mh, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:45 (nine years ago) link
Bullshit.
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:45 (nine years ago) link
I think he meant that sarcastically but AB speaks in very strictly worded screeds so idk
― mh, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:49 (nine years ago) link
Oh ok, if that is so, my apologies. Irony is hard to read on here.
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:54 (nine years ago) link
I just mean there is a difference between telling someone personally with your own voice vs. posting a video that reaches a thousand people simultaneously and is admittedly not posted in full faith.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:57 (nine years ago) link
The police are also there to protect moneyed interests, of which a mortgage company is #1. Versus, say, a video game commentator.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:59 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, if it is someone you know you can gauge their intent, with a stranger you can't tell, absent past interaction or public history, whether they are a wackjob who will drive across country to kill you.
― mh, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:59 (nine years ago) link
Just because twitter has a wide audience does not diminish the fact the threats in question are clearly directed at a specific person!
Not to mention some of the women having gotten privately sent emails/messages/videos of genuine threat. Are they also no real?
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 03:00 (nine years ago) link
No they are definitely real. Maybe I should have said "Not of importance to authority figures" instead.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 03:02 (nine years ago) link
I mean, look at the writings or Internet comments of any spree shooter. People might say all kinds of shit, but some of them are completely for real, and it's not random citizen's ability to tell which is which.
― mh, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 03:02 (nine years ago) link
OK I accept theyre not "real" to the authorities, but that just goes back to the point I was making. They should be.
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 03:14 (nine years ago) link
Is threats over a carriage service not a crime in the US? It is in my country.
offs people.
mh, the zing was cheap in that i understood your intent was not to trivialize non-anthrax threats
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 03:19 (nine years ago) link
The US justice system has a great deal of issues, particularly at the moment. I am putting this extremely lightly.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 03:21 (nine years ago) link
ah, I rest my arguments
also when I read carriage I thought of a horse and buggy
― mh, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 03:22 (nine years ago) link
lol @ "particularly at the moment"
― mh, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 03:23 (nine years ago) link
http://badassdigest.com/2015/03/03/davis-aurini-fired-from-serious-investigative-documentary-the-sarkeesian-ef/
― IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
entertaining
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link
This is gonna be great
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:05 (nine years ago) link
shocked
― goole, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:07 (nine years ago) link
#teamdavis
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:15 (nine years ago) link
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I'm guessing you weren't very old yet in 2008-09
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:21 (nine years ago) link
Old enough to have Insider Money in Politics Scandal Where No-One Goes to Jail fatigue.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:42 (nine years ago) link
omg that link upthread
Cinephiles everywhere have been following the production of The Sarkeesian Effect, a work of serious investigative journalism that we first mentioned back in August. Spearheaded by skull fancier Davis Aurini and bathrobe couture pioneer Jordan Owen, it seeks to expose the corruption and collusion of Social Justice Warriors like Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn, including but not limited to their reckless squandering of crowdfunded money.
I was not aware there was a fiduciary duty between crowdfunder and crowdfundees.
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:44 (nine years ago) link
that's a parody right? I mean that reads like the Onion.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 01:04 (nine years ago) link
It is entirely sarcastic.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 01:06 (nine years ago) link
I hope Aurini lost the skull in the divorce
― Andrew Kornfan, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 01:23 (nine years ago) link
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, March 3, 2015 6:42 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No, I mean the fact that Countrywide was basically at the epicenter of the mortgage crisis and would no longer exist if not bought by Bank of America. Just kind of lulzy to say that the House of Mozillo's "entire business is based around stability and mitigating risk."
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 02:29 (nine years ago) link
xp i was totally fooled, i admit, though it was real
― Nhex, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 02:43 (nine years ago) link