yes
― raccoon shipoopi (how's life), Monday, 27 October 2014 13:41 (nine years ago) link
What Neil said
Sam Kriss @sam_kriss · 2h 2 hours agoahahaha i'm getting unironic rts from gamergate for posting one of their stupid bios
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I think he's joking
Sam Kriss @sam_kriss · 1h 1 hour agoPassionate About Pixels. Frontline #GamerGate Soldier. I Googled Bell Hooks Once So Don't You DARE Try To Tell Me What Sexism Is.
― Nhex, Monday, 27 October 2014 13:47 (nine years ago) link
hahaha
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 13:54 (nine years ago) link
Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously 14h14 hours agoAn anonymous tipster in PR informed me Gawker is engaging in astroturfing. Many of the loudest anti-#GamerGate proponents are on payroll.
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 October 2014 14:09 (nine years ago) link
the rabbit hole goes even deeper than I imagined
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link
Deepthroat to Cernovich's Woodward & Bernstein
― Barry Gordy (Neil S), Monday, 27 October 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link
So weird that the right wing response these days is the classic Pee Wee Herman "I know you are but what am I?" defense
― Nhex, Monday, 27 October 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link
Many people who disagree with GamerGate work for a company. Indeed, there is troubling evidence that suggests huge swaths of those who disagree with GamerGate work for one or more companies. I can't disclose my sources lest they be overtaken by the firestorm this post will produce. But worry not, dear reader, I'll keep reporting until they silence me.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 27 October 2014 14:16 (nine years ago) link
Let's send investigators to San Juan and Ponce, smoke this tipster out once and for all.
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link
expressed as a percentage how likely is it that the tipster is a. playing a prank b. fictional
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 October 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link
'i'm fighting for ethics in journalism! that's why i'm posting unsourced bullshit on twitter!'
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link
To all appearances, snl did not in fact do a gamergate sketch this weekend.
― raccoon shipoopi (how's life), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
clearly the threats of #gamergate reprisals cowed them into submission
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link
A PR guy told me that ALL of the SNL skits were really about gamergate
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link
that's how the liberal media works
― Nhex, Monday, 27 October 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
actually the skits were about ethics in gaming journalism
― Clay, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link
^ the moment the joke died
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link
smh
― mookieproof, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link
in the end, i'd like to by sympathetic to gg WAIT WAIT HEAR ME OUT i'm sure the "gaming press" is "corrupt" (no shots to anyone present) in that, to my eyes, it has the same relationship to the games industry that fashion mags to the clothing industry or car mags to the auto industry. there's a thin slice of good writing and history and industry investigation and a huge block of heycheckitout PR
but you look at this thing, over the past several weeks, what they've done, their language, and it's like heeey why does your internet crusade seem to pick up the internet's worst people? why did it, in plain blank fact, start with them?
i mean:
https://twitter.com/tinybaby/status/526771179861073920
― caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link
who are the people who led the charge against anita sarkeesian before this gg bullshit had a name?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsdIHK8O5yo
warning: anglo cheeky affect, gross shit. kinda funny tho
― caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link
xp
yeah but their crusade is not about that type of actual industry capture at all, it's about uncovering the "vast SJW conspiracy"
― anonanon, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link
yes exactly
― caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
have we done davis aurini's men's rights / martial arts short movie itt yet? it's incredible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJSGc2ylZe4
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
oh... oh my god
― caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link
tommy wiseau would weep
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link
made with a $10k grant from the canadian government. thx canada!
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link
i'm sure the "gaming press" is "corrupt" (no shots to anyone present) in that, to my eyes, it has the same relationship to the games industry that fashion mags to the clothing industry or car mags to the auto industry. there's a thin slice of good writing and history and industry investigation and a huge block of heycheckitout PR
seriously what the fuck do people want? y'all motherfuckers love to see new screenshots, new little bits of info, new trailers, etc etc, that's what YOU FUCKING CLICK okay? So sorry there's no way to dress up like a janitor and sneak into a company and steal a build...
number two, and people don't want to hear this but it's sometimes really fucking irresponsible to write off a game based on a preview...alien isolation looked liked a 10/10 in the months running up, turned out somewhat disappointing.....uncharted, on my honor, looked like a FUCKING MESS the E3 prior to release....the last deus ex which turned out pretty cool look like actual feces when we saw it...
the fact is that games are fucking super complicated and some games that look great early never develop, some games look like a hot mess and they throw 700 ppl on them in the last 6 months and they turn out great!
you can talk about fundamental probz or concerns with design, and possible technical shit that may be a concern of not getting fixed, but it's hard, they can implement some new physics on something or new textures or new camera shit and it can break a whole bunch of stuff.....
so i'm sorry but i see ppl say this shit a lot and in my experience it's good to express concerns about stuff that could be issues moving forward but it's honestly hard to tell how shit turns out IMO.
if anyone could show me a form of entertainment journalism that's ever been PRIMARILY investigative i'd love to see it
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
I know this is getting stale at this point but still lolled
https://twitter.com/caseyjohnston/status/524963580983390208
― anonanon, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
I got to "Abuser, abused: two sides of the same coin" and had to stop watching
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
also can I say what I want from gaming journalism is pretty much what I've gotten from PC Gamer, Edge and Game Informer; articles about games, reviews that describe the gameplay and storylines if necessary, a shit-ton of screenshots, and a list of release dates
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link
haha, that's exactly where I stopped x-post.
― Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
hey ums i think i came off a little too harsh and i want to reiterate that i have immense respect for you and enjoy your work
i put "corrupt" in scare quotes because i think that yeah an enthusiast or entertainment press is just naturally, inevitably going to have a different relationship to the industry it covers than general journalism will to general industry. and that's fine! the analogies of fashion and car mags weren't meant to be damning: you pick them up because you want to look at clothes or cars.
what they charge as corruption (esp in the indie scene) is not that at all. they're treating it like they've just discovered that pravda is run by the comintern or something.
anyway, sorry
― caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
Next Gen used to be my shit
― 龜, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link
actually PC Gamer also had a hardware column that used to be fantastic until they promoted the dude who wrote it to EiC
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link
no worries goole
it's just like gamers say they want "investigative journalism" but they really want angry blogs about how some game isn't in 1080p
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link
It actually seems like gamergaters have a pretty coherent position -- using money/advertising to gain favorable coverage is ok, even encouraged, it's only using "sexual charms" that is corrupt
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
http://actuallyethics.tumblr.com/image/101067587454
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link
=(
the only context under which "investigative gaming journalism" makes sense is if someone actually uncovers an indoctrination plot where someone is using a shooting game to train its players to become more efficient killers, and well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Army#Reception
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link
xp: well that meme was fun while it lasted
Dan, The Last Starfighter is not a true story
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link
Just checking to make sure the picture of IT in the sewage drain has already been captioned with 'Actually, it's about...'
― 龜, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
Actually, it's about 1080p
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
yeah the point here is that focused mags are inherently "in bed" with the industry they cover (what up guitar magazines), what these fucksticks dont seem to realize is that its always been that way, and it isnt a problem per se. this whole ethics in journo crap is a bunch of ignorant dudes getting rope a doped by outside right wing woman hating shitheels that convince them that their little special world is under attack. ive got a whole conspiratorial swing here that wonders if koch brother style operators are standing by to mobilize low info voters into sandbagging womens issues for years because feminazis are stealing their precious RTS man club.
― Ass Tchotchke! (jjjusten), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
Someone throw some cash at me, I'll do some objective videogame reviews.
"This game is 1.1 GB in size, which is 300 MB larger than its predecessor."
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link
^ But are these numbers in base 2 or base 10? Is DJP actually a biased Mac gamer?
― 龜, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/a-90-second-guide-to-determine-if-your-internet-cause-bs/1817 comments; don't read any of themi found this because i had the thought "what does seanbaby think about gamergate?" i had that thought. time for a break
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link
just look at this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gamergate_controversy
don't actually
― caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link
xp Late to the party I'm afraid, Dan.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link