Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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yeah those are good

ciderpress, Thursday, 23 October 2014 14:56 (eleven years ago)

this manifesto is bad and you should feel bad

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:00 (eleven years ago)

one of the scarier things about the internet is it allows people to grow up in an environment where actions don't have consequences

ciderpress, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:21 (eleven years ago)

what, you mean like Wall Street bankers? *rimshot*

Nhex, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:35 (eleven years ago)

i can't even tell serious posts from fakeposts anymore https://twitter.com/uurow1/status/525066805896032258

ciderpress, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:39 (eleven years ago)

looks like a real account to me, but who knows maybe it's *false flag* lol
https://twitter.com/uurow1

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:46 (eleven years ago)

Pixel Knight @uurow1 · 16h 16 hours ago
#Gamergate hates women, despite loving games like Uncharted, Legacy of Kain, Jak and Daxter, Assassin's Creed, and King's Quest.

guys we love women so much we love these games with male protagonists

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:49 (eleven years ago)

yeah what does that mean are those games that women were involved in developing? Games with female characters? I need a gamer translator/guide for all this.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:50 (eleven years ago)

i think the former? kinda missing the forest for the trees there tho 'pixel knight'

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:51 (eleven years ago)

Let us remember all the shit Jade Raymond(who just split Ubisoft for Occulus?) got 7 years ago when AC was first released.

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:52 (eleven years ago)

otm

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:52 (eleven years ago)

the eurogamer story i read on her announcing her resignation was still filled with oafs commenting on her appearance

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:53 (eleven years ago)

Pixel Knight @uur0w1 · 16h 16 hours ago
#Gamergate hates women, despite loving games like Uncharted, Legacy of Kain, Jak and Daxter, Assassin's Creed, and King's Quest.

lol xp
Famed feminists Jak and Daxter.
Famous woman positive game Assassin's Creed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeisccPBZA8

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:53 (eleven years ago)

all of those games have what passes for "strong female characters" in video games

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:54 (eleven years ago)

i'll bet dollars to doughnuts pixel knight's never played king's quest and is just boosting his pro-women cred by mentioning it

fuckin fake geek boys smdh

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:56 (eleven years ago)

hey, king's quest 4 and 7 had women protagonists!

ciderpress, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:57 (eleven years ago)

i take it all back i am now on board with #gamergate #notyourshield

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:58 (eleven years ago)

*casts a throwaway primary vote for Herman Cain because not racist*

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:59 (eleven years ago)

Amy Hennig wrote the scripts and was creative director for all the Uncharted games (recently departed now making unannounced Star Wars game at EA)

I *think* they may think that Amy worked on Jak & Daxter, which she may have a little but certainly wasn't one of the main ppl behind that, she would have still been at Crystal for a lot of that

Amy was one of the principals on Legacy of Kain back at Crystal in the day

Jade Raymond was lead on AC

I don't know that much abt King's Quest

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:14 (eleven years ago)

seriously tho, back to topic, fuckin a

https://twitter.com/mrconnorobrien/status/525238071441100801

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:18 (eleven years ago)

perfect

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:21 (eleven years ago)

i see those ads on like every gaming site these days

ciderpress, Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:22 (eleven years ago)

yah they are google ad served i think, it sucks you often don't get a lot of control over what goes up on those

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:25 (eleven years ago)

UMS, am I wrong in saying that there are "strong female protagonists" in all those games though?

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:29 (eleven years ago)

yes in uncharted
AC kinda there was the Vita one set in New Orleans w/female lead
Legacy of Kain, man it's been awhile there were a few of those maybe?
Jak & Daxter kinda but i dunno you're really scraping the barrel to find one in that case
king's quest is a blind spot for me as i said

either way the point that the game industry has often had sexist, hyper-sexualized/objectified, and dumb portrayals of women -- and that by and large protagonists have been white males, is so completely objectively TRUE that you'd have to be some sort of moron to argue otherwise

i mean ppl are bringing up Lara Croft as a counter example, she is literally a female because when they were developing the first one, a programmer thought it would be more pleasant to stare at a hot female butt than a man's butt

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:34 (eleven years ago)

King's Quest games suck

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:37 (eleven years ago)

Also as though there being a handful of popular female protagonists makes a lick of difference in re the severe harassment of women who criticize gaming culture or get "too uppity" or something

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:39 (eleven years ago)

KQ1 was Roberta Williams

Oh man, I'm disappointed they didn't mention Phantasmagoria

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:41 (eleven years ago)

i have misremembered the lead in one of the Kain games being a woman. go figure. there was a rush of female protagonists in the wake of Tomb Raider's ridiculous success but not many characters that have hung on till current gen systems.
for non-gamers, it is perhaps instructive to recognize that Sony, the creator of the Playstation and arguably the most important company in console gaming, has claimed "Fat Princess" as their signature female character for the past five years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHjQzBwawNM

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:43 (eleven years ago)

and she's not even playable!

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:44 (eleven years ago)

I just remember with Jade Raymond, Ubi put her right out front for the promotion of the game and boy did she catch shit for it, even to the point of the horrible nsfw cartoon somebody drew

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:47 (eleven years ago)

corey cole who co-created the quest for glory games was talking about gamergate recently, and he mentioned that roberta williams got hate mail for making a woman the protagonist of king's quest 4. the more things change, etc.

you little affront to god (reddening), Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:52 (eleven years ago)

speaking of the more things change, here's jay smooth otm in 2012 and sounding like he posted this yesterday
http://vimeo.com/44117178

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:03 (eleven years ago)

https://twitter.com/Sargon_of_Akkad/status/525314068870336513 aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:09 (eleven years ago)

who cares about rape/death threats women get FREE IMAGINARY SWORDS

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:10 (eleven years ago)

#notyourchitinshield

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:11 (eleven years ago)

man I can't laugh at any of this shit at this point no matter how blinkered and childish it is, people are getting hurt out there and these fuckwits need to have their oxygen supply cut off

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:15 (eleven years ago)

(their metaphorical oxygen giving them voice in the twitterverse/tumblrverse/blogosphere, not advocating the suffocation of teenagers)

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:16 (eleven years ago)

Philip Burkhill ‏@philyburkhill 1h1 hour ago

@Sargon_of_Akkad My guild went out of its way to accommodate women, no rape jokes allowed etc

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:17 (eleven years ago)

I sat across from someone on the bus this morning with a Social Justice Ranger pin on their backpack and I showed them my Social Justice Wizard pin that's on my lanyard right now. We had a moment. It was reassuring.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:17 (eleven years ago)

xp form an orderly queue, ladies

Barry Gordy (Neil S), Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:17 (eleven years ago)

xp YES THAT TWEET, OMFG

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:19 (eleven years ago)

Warlobster ‏@Gossenphilosoph 2h2 hours ago
@Sargon_of_Akkad Don't forget they would also see this as sexism. "You can't buy a womans love"-type of shit. You can't win.

am0n, Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:37 (eleven years ago)

war.......lobster

am0n, Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:37 (eleven years ago)

FREE IMAGINARY SWORDS

everyone heard this like that cure song in their head right

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:37 (eleven years ago)

women. can't threaten to kill them, can't purchase them like commodities. amirite fellas.

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:38 (eleven years ago)

lol biscuits

Nhex, Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:48 (eleven years ago)

#winfail

am0n, Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:48 (eleven years ago)

this argument is exactly backwards from "journalistic integrity"

https://twitter.com/johndurant/status/525145389687910400

goole, Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:52 (eleven years ago)

otm

Flipped through my roommate's GameInformer and found a pleasant, to-the-point Sarkeesian interview. Wonder if this is raising hackles or if the GG types have already long since checked out on GameInformer.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:56 (eleven years ago)


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