as sad it this all is, the "Dark Souls prepared to fight against social justice" angle is hilariousactually that sounds like a false flag, i'm gonna call it
― Nhex, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link
iirc a lot of that screed by Quinn's ex was an attempt to show her an SJW fraud, because she had expressed a belief that sex with someone you're cheating on is non-consensual sex
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link
Show her as
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
if you have the emotional bandwidth for it:
https://twitter.com/GGBeingSexist
― goole, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
well, he claims she expressed lots of things and still painted himself in a horrible light without even realizing it, so...
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link
I guess the better way to address that is: who gives a fuck? If she said these things and acted in a hypocritical way, that is between two people. There are many people who I don't feel like actively devaluing in the public sphere despite the fact I might not get along with them as individuals. That goes doubly so for people I've dated.
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link
knowing he is not a fully formed human and none of us are
― Walter MIDI (Crabbits), Monday, October 13, 2014 11:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is great thank you
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link
its amazing how people adapt to very weird shit completely effortlessly― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 04:02
Absolutely OTM!
― hyggeligt, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link
Basically, these people are the products of the games they play. I know that angle's been suggested a lot in the media I've read on this and its the one takeway I do think I understand: these reddittoheads honestly approach this like they would a WOW or COD campaign or a fucking laser tag match.
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link
its funny when previously cloistered subcultures pop into the mainstream and nothing they do makes any sense to anyone else, their smartest coolest dudes turn out to be incapable of even communicating to the wider world much less convincing anyone of their superiority
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link
these reddittoheads honestly approach this like they would a WOW or COD campaign or a fucking laser tag match.
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:06 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i suspect they consider it good training for irl rather than seeing it for the artificial environment it is set up to guide them to success w/only the slightest obstacles along the way
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link
theres obvs reasons people seek out these cultures and become so immersed in them, like theyre m/l the same reasons why everyone plays games just minus any self awareness
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link
the artificial environment it is set up to guide them to success w/only the slightest obstacles along the way
This is interesting and worth lingering on IMO - - - I know I keep wanting to bring the content of games into play here, but this is a great way of looking at it that doesn't just focus on the manifest content of getting your thrills out of blowing stuff up and killing people. I mean, what kind of claim is it that you've struggled and gotten back up in an era where games are designed to drip-feed you bits of content at a very learnable, achievable rate? I'd be a lot more impressed if they claimed to have died a hundred times and kept going in some actual fucking hard-ass old-school game where there was no wheel-greasing at all to get you through and completely pathetic rewards for getting better at it anyway. I mean, they'd still be egregious shitheads, but I wonder if the rhetoric/social styling would be different.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link
yeah idk its still all games, there are no stakes, many of them are very cool but not like the best for life lessons
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link
oh, no question! Not saying banging my head against the same impossible level of Blaster Master eighty times was good and character-building for me - just saying it might condition a slightly different form of gamer self-identity, particularly with regard to things that read to me as weird, distorted entitlement. The latter of course can be pretty basically explained as "well, sexism," but the thread title does prompt the question, why this form of sexism in this sub-culture?
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link
yeah its an interesting question i have no idea, tho for one thing i doubt games wld be as popular as they are if they were harder
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link
tho now that im an expert in league of legends http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/12/technology/riot-games-league-of-legends-main-attraction-esports.html it does seem very hard
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link
By complete chance a mate of mine posted this Deadspin article just now on his FB that makes the whole mess clear in a not-exhausting/confusing manner
http://deadspin.com/the-future-of-the-culture-wars-is-here-and-its-gamerga-1646145844
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
The key part I didnt know clearly:"In August, the ex-boyfriend of an obscure game developer writes a long, extensively documented, literally self-dramatizing, and profoundly deranged blog post about the dissolution of their relationship. Among his many accusations, he claims she slept with a gaming journalist in return for favorable coverage. ...Once Gjoni's breakup post was made public, with its sotto voce intimations of sex-for-coverage exchanges, this cycle was set back into motion and supercharged. It's important to note that the initial claim that sparked Gamergate was not only untrue, but totally nonsensical—neither Grayson nor anyone else even reviewed the game at Kotaku, and while Grayson did write about Quinn in late March in a feature about a failed reality show, that was before they'd begun their romantic relationship.
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link
will it ever stop? this is making me sick. http://www.standard.net/Police/2014/10/14/Utah-State-University-student-threatens-act-of-terror-if-feminist.html
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 00:05 (nine years ago) link
gamergate will stop in a couple weeks prob, misogynistic sociopaths will never stop
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 00:08 (nine years ago) link
”They determined the threat seems to be consistent with ones (Anita Sarkeesian) has received at other places around the nation,” he told the Standard-Examiner. “The threat we received is not out of the norm for (this woman).”
wtf is wrong with people
― GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 00:10 (nine years ago) link
As I was just saying on FB, lets just call this what it is - terrorism. Straighy up.
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 02:03 (nine years ago) link
If I ever meet anyone who agrees with this shit they will lose the use of their nads, just sayin.
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 02:04 (nine years ago) link
you won't b/c they won't leave their moms' basements tbh
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link
the event has been canceled.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 02:25 (nine years ago) link
can i just
A gamergate is a reproductively viable female worker ant that is able to reproduce with mature males when the colony is lacking a queen. Most commonly occurring within the primitive species of the poneromorph subfamilies, gamergate females differ from their fellow workers by a combination of elevated fecundity and aggression-related mutilation of competitors' secondary sexual characteristics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate
― everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 02:28 (nine years ago) link
re: mass shooting threat upthread- the loons are saying that Anita did this herself (which is exactly the kind of panicked nonsense you'd expect) but i think the whole terrorism thing is turning people off. critical mass perhaps reached
― i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 03:01 (nine years ago) link
you won't b/c they won't leave their moms' basements tbh― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:15 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:15 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if only this were true
― GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link
i read elsewhere that anita asked if weapons would be permitted in the venue, and the school said they couldn't stop people with valid concealed-carry licenses from bringing in a gun. that's pretty !!! so i'm glad anita canceled, even while being furious that yet again a terroristic threat has "worked."
― you little affront to god (reddening), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
no scare quotes needed
― Nhex, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 03:15 (nine years ago) link
LOGAN — Canadian-American author, blogger and feminist Anita Sarkeesian has cancelled her scheduled Wednesday speech at Utah State University after learning the school would allow concealed firearms at the event despite an anonymous terror threat promising “the deadliest school shooting in American history.”
http://www.standard.net/Police/2014/10/14/Feminist-speaker-cancels-appearance-at-USU-after-terror-threat.html
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 03:23 (nine years ago) link
Man it feels weird where they need to add "feminist" like it was another one of her job titles
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 03:24 (nine years ago) link
that is def. not the weirdest thing in that sentence.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 03:31 (nine years ago) link
poll
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 03:32 (nine years ago) link
If they do not hunt that stalker down and jackboot him into next week I will lose what little faith in authority I have left. You know right now he'd already have a jillion FBIs around him if he were middle eastern/black/a tinfoil teaparty dude.
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 03:34 (nine years ago) link
(ugh Im never reactionary about authority/punishment, this feels gross, but I cant fucking put "bomb threats" and "over women talking about video game" together without losing a large chunk of brain).
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 03:35 (nine years ago) link
USU officials earlier consulted with federal, local and state law enforcement and determined it was safe to allow Anita Sarkeesian to give her presentation, said spokesman Tim Vitale.In order to determine the degree of risk the letter posed, police ran the information they had through the FBI cyber terrorism task force and a number of other statewide database analysis information centers.”They determined the threat seems to be consistent with ones (Sarkeesian) has received at other places around the nation,” he told the Standard-Examiner. “The threat we received is not out of the norm for (this woman).”
In order to determine the degree of risk the letter posed, police ran the information they had through the FBI cyber terrorism task force and a number of other statewide database analysis information centers.
”They determined the threat seems to be consistent with ones (Sarkeesian) has received at other places around the nation,” he told the Standard-Examiner. “The threat we received is not out of the norm for (this woman).”
Wow, is this really how police do threat assessments? "She hasn't been murdered those other few times, so no need to worry about her being murdered this time."
― jmm, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 03:38 (nine years ago) link
this keeps getting more grossly offensive and stupid
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 03:44 (nine years ago) link
Xp - i mean i assume that these guys are all cowards but i wouldn't bet someone else's life on that assessment
― i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 03:45 (nine years ago) link
without looking, i'm sure some idiot has already accused Sarkeesian of cancelling the event to somehow promote herself by ignoring the police's low-enough risk assessment
― Nhex, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link
yup
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 04:05 (nine years ago) link
ur prediction is too conservative she has been accused of fabricating the threat against herself of course
― anonanon, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 04:07 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/052qGZB.png
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 04:09 (nine years ago) link
going into the mentions on any tweet by any remotely prominent person about this whole thing is basically being in hell
― Clay, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link
Wow a gamergate fatwa wtf
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 04:24 (nine years ago) link
Hang on are the feds saying "its ok, its safe to proceed she gets threats like this all the time nbd" ?? Cos thats sure as shit how it reads.
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 04:25 (nine years ago) link
it def reads that way
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 04:29 (nine years ago) link
one wld hope they used some other more standard risk assessment other than hey they havent killed her yet
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 04:31 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/gpUJTpb.png
lol hanging out in someones mentions straight claiming ownership of the whole scene these people are loony as hell
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 04:41 (nine years ago) link