jacobin piece undercooked
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:17 (ten years ago) link
it's just lag00n's in thread strong take (gaming = consumerism) + unpacked into verbosity
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:19 (ten years ago) link
took a quick look at the tag on twitter, came away with this gem
https://twitter.com/Bendilin/status/512708381186854912
― goole, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:21 (ten years ago) link
― Mordy, Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:19 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
idk i thought it was pretty good
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:31 (ten years ago) link
idk i expect more from jacobin i guess
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:32 (ten years ago) link
but tbf consumerism is pretty much ubiquitous on our culture so maybe its unfair to pick on teh poor gamers, in the preceding piece he does spell out how everyone is a geek now https://www.jacobinmag.com/2013/08/on-geek-culture
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link
this is good:
There are a few small issues with this analysis. One is the notion that the slights imagined by gamers are just that: imaginary. But they aren’t, and gamers must be taken at face value when they claim to feel threatened. Gamer culture is under threat, though the notion that it’s dead or dying is both overstated and premature.
When your identity has been manufactured by corporations urging you to consume certain things in prescribed ways, then any change, no matter how small, is an existential threat. When women challenge decades of almost exclusively male fantasies of sex and power, this alters the content the gamer consumes. And when that content is altered, gamer identity itself under threat. The vitriol isn’t contrived or artificially manufactured. It has a source.
― goole, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:36 (ten years ago) link
Neoliberalism has made geeks of us all: jocks, nerds, and dweebs alike.
― Nhex, Friday, 19 September 2014 02:26 (ten years ago) link
how to write for Jacobin:
1. Identify a thing that's definitely bad.2. Blame neoliberalism for that thing.3. Something something Adorno?
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Friday, 19 September 2014 05:36 (ten years ago) link
i mean
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 19 September 2014 06:11 (ten years ago) link
um neoliberalism is bad hello
― lag∞n, Friday, 19 September 2014 13:50 (ten years ago) link
it's not that there aren't interesting things to still say about neoliberalism, but that well is pretty dry in 2014.
― Mordy, Friday, 19 September 2014 13:54 (ten years ago) link
naw i agree that those on the left tend to just call everything and everyone they dont like neoliberalism
― lag∞n, Friday, 19 September 2014 13:57 (ten years ago) link
but i mean its just one sentence
― lag∞n, Friday, 19 September 2014 13:58 (ten years ago) link
i think someone very bright could write a very interesting piece about the history of gaming as it intertwines w/ (as well as subverts) neoliberalism + consumerism. i envision something like Attali's Noise but for games instead of music.
― Mordy, Friday, 19 September 2014 14:13 (ten years ago) link
jesus
https://twitter.com/Nero/status/513082652518535168
― goole, Friday, 19 September 2014 21:55 (ten years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate
― Mordy, Saturday, 20 September 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link
whoa
― example (crüt), Saturday, 20 September 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link
The correct title of this article is #GamerGate. The substitution or omission of the # is because of technical restrictions.
― lag∞n, Saturday, 20 September 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link
53 footnotes, damn
― Nhex, Saturday, 20 September 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link
omg lolololol
https://twitter.com/congressedits/status/514080679030566912
holy shit
― goole, Monday, 22 September 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link
"Cultural Marxism" ?!?!
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 22 September 2014 16:04 (ten years ago) link
you are in for a world of fun if you dig around for that phrase
― goole, Monday, 22 September 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link
hahahahahahahahaha
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Monday, 22 September 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link
facepalm of sadness
― Nhex, Monday, 22 September 2014 16:27 (ten years ago) link
http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/38832734/boobs.0.0_standard_800.0.jpg
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 September 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K4s7cV4Us4and it has come to this
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 04:38 (nine years ago) link
is he a double agent
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 05:13 (nine years ago) link
I find it kind of humorous (tinged with sadness) that someone paid AEI to make that.
― alanbatman (abanana), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 11:35 (nine years ago) link
In Japan, the number of female gamers is rapidly increasing. And as a result there are more and more games being made specifically for the female gamer market. Some have a very exaggerated 'cuteness' than seems to be deliberately 'non-sexual'. Others have suggestive sexual content but with the gender roles reversed. There are also many games featuring homosexual male characters but they are clearly aimed at female gamers.
― Tokyo Crow, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link
That almost reads like a direct reflection of how manga markets have been for over a decade.
― tsrobodo, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, that's true. There's a very big overlap between the manga/anime audience and the video game audience.
Multimedia franchises - play the game, read the comic, watch the anime, buy the soundtrack, buy the figures/merchandise, play the pachinko machine, read the light novel, watch the movie etc.
― Tokyo Crow, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
Oh good, that's happening
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link
Dammit. https://twitter.com/hashtag/comicgate
https://twitter.com/djperry1973/status/514813517715623936
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
haha #NotAllRadioDisneySingles
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
then they came for milo manara and i was silentbecause i had been bound tightly in leather straps and a ball gag
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/x8t39eu.png
lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
hahahahaha
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/features/12306-Female-Game-Developers-Make-Statements-on-GamerGate
― goole, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link
The general response appears to be that it's a shame that the ladies are so ill-informed about what GamerGate is about.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 25 September 2014 09:48 (nine years ago) link
if only some MANS would exPLAIN it to them!
― A college wearing a sweater that says “John Belushi” (stevie), Thursday, 25 September 2014 10:13 (nine years ago) link
http://recode.net/2014/10/01/under-pressure-from-gamers-intel-pulls-advertising-from-gamasutra/
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 2 October 2014 07:07 (nine years ago) link
"this is about corruption in journalism!" starting to sound a lot like "the civil war was about states rights!"
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 2 October 2014 07:34 (nine years ago) link
That's really depressing. The comments are really depressing. The only hope I can draw from this is that the men behind it are so noxious and emotionally stunted they will never get to multiply.
― A college wearing a sweater that says “John Belushi” (stevie), Thursday, 2 October 2014 08:27 (nine years ago) link
The subject of this article has actually been going out of her way to berate, provoke and insult gamers for years. Calling them things like nerds, losers etc and how they "take their hobby way too seriously".-- Joe Random Asshole Commenter
I can't say I had particularly noticed this vibe in Leigh Alexander's articles "for years" but either way it's funny how they don't mind it when Milo Yiannopoulos does it:
Personally, I don't understand grown men wasting their lives playing computer games. It seems a bit sad to me. . . . Is it me, or do these weirdos need therapy and their internet connections taken away by mum?
Anyway it sucks that this has happened, very disappointing
(plus, Gamasutra is for game design/developers and 99% of the gamergate brigade strike me as... not having spent the time thinking about games on the level required to/inspired by actually trying to make one, at whatever point on the continuum from dabbling to professionalism. so screw those guys for getting out their pretending-to-be-target-audience crayons. but y'know that's a totally unjustified kneejerk assumption and could be entirely wrong.)
― club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 2 October 2014 09:49 (nine years ago) link
really shitty behaviour on the part of intel too imo
― A college wearing a sweater that says “John Belushi” (stevie), Thursday, 2 October 2014 10:02 (nine years ago) link
"we pay a lot of attention to what our awful moronic immature sexist manchild customers think"
― A college wearing a sweater that says “John Belushi” (stevie), Thursday, 2 October 2014 10:03 (nine years ago) link
Pulling ads from that particular site seems really misguided
― ⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:12 (nine years ago) link
i had dinner with leigh alexander once and, unprovoked, she went on a long spiel about how important sierra adventure games were to her worldview. anybody who thinks she's not a hardcore game nerd has never met her.
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link