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― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link
How many character models are there? 3? I think the CGI ones are the same as the battle ones but there are definitely some CGI scenes that use the super-deformed lego style models.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
At any rate, it's funny that the battle models are the most 'realistic' and yet the battle is the most absurd, biology/physic/religion-breaking batshit part of the game!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
have you gotten KOTR yet
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
It's weird to read people surprised that newcomers enjoy this game, with it's 'dated' graphics, yet you never read anyone say that Super Mario Bros. 3 has dated graphics.
well the appeal of (and advertising campaign for) ff7 when it came out was mostly about a polished level of presentation which hadnt been seen before. smb3 wasnt coming on that 'just give the guys who make cartridges a cigarette and a blindfold' tip
it's kind of ground zero for modern sandbox gaming
lol
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 23:47 (ten years ago) link
^ hah i was gonna make a similar argument - FF7 was what everybody thought killed the n64 at the time (though looking back, i think everybody fondly remembers goldeneye), and it was largely because the ad campaigns only featured FULL MOTION VIDEO which the n64 COULD NOT DO because it was CARTRIDGE BASED
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link
Hah Goldeneye. I remember playing that (and having a lot of fun in multiplayer) but just thinking "Man, Doom is WAYYYY better than this, and it was years ago."
FFVII is VERY ahead of it's time. For good and for bad. I always thought QTE's were some modern variation on Interactive Movies, that craze that was supposed to hit before The Internet came out and destroyed every VCR with a loud eeeee-rrrrrrrr modem death shriek. Constructing an interactive movie was one of the end goals of the optical media revolution.
I haven't gotten KOTR yet. I plan on it! Maybe a Gold Chocobo as well! I'm probably near the end of Disc 2 and wondering if I haven't effed myself over by not doing certain things in time. There were only 3 Huge Materia in Cosmo Canyon when I was there recently, I think I may have missed the one on the train. Was that when Cid had to alternate the brakes or something? I'm pretty sure I never caught up with the other train, or really had a clue what was going on.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 04:47 (ten years ago) link
I have to say it is nice to not have heroes that steal every single thing that is not nailed down to the floor! Ultima I am looking at you!
Also, they do give some story time to the female characters here, even though Aeris is somewhat of a Woman in a Fridge. I think Tifa saved Cloud twice and spent time as the captain of the airship (?). Also when she got tied up she freed herself with a cool minigame puzzle.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 04:55 (ten years ago) link
Ok wait I need a Gold Chocobo for the KOTR. Ok. Thing is I think I sold my Steal Materia. Well I can buy one at the Gold Saucer, and I love playing that Sub minigame (seriously, this is probably the best sub game that ever came out for 32-bit systems).
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 04:57 (ten years ago) link
I mean, I can buy the Carob Nut at the Gold Saucer? Do I need that to get the Gold Chocobo?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 04:58 (ten years ago) link
Watch yourself - I made basically this statement on the ILX video game ballot poll thread and was nearly run out of town on a rail.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 12:04 (ten years ago) link
Goldeneye is ALL ABOUT multiplayer tho
― what a horribly farmed "cock" (wins), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 12:13 (ten years ago) link
relevant
http://ryanhemsworth.bandcamp.com/track/battle
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 25 October 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link
sorry to be that guy but can we change the title of this thread? it's not really cool to use a word when intellectually disabled people are offended by it (no matter the context) and are asking people not to use it
http://www.r-word.org/
― reckless woo (Z S), Friday, 25 October 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link
you're right about Doom vs. Goldeneye, but it was much harder to set up a LAN party and networking over DOS vs. some drinks and a bunch of your idiot friends over to GODDAMNIT ODDJOB
― Nhex, Saturday, 26 October 2013 02:42 (ten years ago) link
I also would endorse changing the thread title.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 26 October 2013 03:19 (ten years ago) link
kind of treeship in retrospect
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 26 October 2013 03:56 (ten years ago) link
otm. Maybe "Kind of Silly in Retrospect"?
I just finished Disc 02 (Hojo was pretty easy for me!) so i think Disc 3 is just the last dungeon + Sephiroth battle + long FMV ending? I will probably goof around, get my limit breaks maxed, collect missing materia, play tons of sub game missions, raise/race Chocobo, etc. before attempting the end.
Is that last cave the best place to level up? I did go in there for a minute and some weird gargoyle guys kicked my ass promptly.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 26 October 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
there are 41 ILX thread titles containing the word "retarded", although the practice does seem to have tapered off somewhat in recent years
― random accies memories (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 26 October 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link
Barenaked Ladies thread probably the worst outstanding example, in terms of things that remain an active part of the hivemind.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 26 October 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link
enjoyed this revive. tho the series is generally execrable, the "final fantasy & philosophy" book had one interesting article about the environmental themes of the game & shinto. a good bit on the sector 7 cutscene w/ president shinra looking down listening to... haydn? that was a great scene
― ogmor, Saturday, 26 October 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
Haydn's The Creation!
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Saturday, 26 October 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
yeah! that was a pretty nifty deployment. all the eden/fall stuff was interesting iirc, tho I was 11 when I played this
― ogmor, Saturday, 26 October 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
I'm in the final dungeon. I actually made it to Jenova (WTF giant naked woman/vaginal space-brain from Wayne Coyne's infinite nightmare) and Sephiroth before OMG what is going on, why is the planet Pluto on the screen? After that, 5 minutes of destroying the solar system, only to have it not completely kill me! Hahahah soooooo awesome. I intend on grinding a bit in that last dungeon and then traveling around, beating the weapons, getting a Gold Chocobo, etc. 55+ hours of play so far. What a game!
It's funny to read reviews of the FF series and have them compared to each other in any way. I mean it is basically a formula, a huge world with sprawling characters, lots of side quests, etc. Airships. Chocobos. Summons. Etc. I played IV and VI (on the SNES) but can't remember any of the stories at all. I think VII has a big hand up in that department because the story is actually about a small group of people that all know each other and all have a past together. When I think back to IV it's "Oh, here's King _______ of the kingdom of _______ and he needs your help". Maybe my memory is screwed.
The 16-bit RPGs are my main source of comparison, so I think VII is a HUGE step up. Graphics were always horribly dull in those games, just made out of tiles, and it's a huge breath of fresh air to have ornate picture-book ruined forests and snowy wastelands to trace your path through. That and the floating camera that gets all cinematic during the battles. At the very least it makes grinding a hell of a lot more fun.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link
Oh, and I'm convinced that the basketball minigame is the single greatest basketball videogame simulator ever. It really is all about knowing the precise microsecond at which is let go of the ball.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link
I probably spent at least 5 hours playing that damn b-ball game.
No regrets!
― reckless woo (Z S), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
Adam, you should replay VI! Maybe not as batshit as VII but there's tons to love.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 01:07 (ten years ago) link
VI is the consensus pick for best FF, I thought
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 01:09 (ten years ago) link
Yeah that's what I heard. Any reasons why that is? I know the opera scene is amazing and all but that's like one scene out of a long game.
I'll probably replay it, but my new roommate has FFVIII and I haven't played many post-16-bit RPGs so that might be fun. Not sure I'll replay VII for a bit, I now have a Gold Chocobo but still have to kill the Weapons and Sephiroth, and by the time that is done, I'll probably have spent as much time on this game as I did playing through Skyrim 2.5 times.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 1 November 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
man I hate that I wrote this thread title
― the doleful cant of a bigot blinded by fear and hate (DJP), Friday, 1 November 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
ugh I hate that I titled this thread this― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, March 9, 2009 8:53 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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― the doleful cant of a bigot blinded by fear and hate (DJP), Friday, 1 November 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
Ha, opera scene probably my least favorite part of FF6!
It's just big, so much world, so many side quests, so many characters. Actually, probably too many on the last, but there's a strong core of 6-10 leads who are totally interesting IMO. Within the 16-bit palette you also get a real sense of a variety of environments and so on. I mean, I haven't seriously played it all the way through since I got it on emulator in the late 90s, so I don't know how completely this holds up. But I remember finding it broad and chewy. More to find and do than Chrono Trigger, though muddier-looking, and with some seriously flawed sections and certainly a less unique story.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 1 November 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link
Yeah that's what I heard. Any reasons why that is? I know the opera scene is amazing and all but that's like one scene out of a long game.― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, November 1, 2013 8:50 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
best villain, arguably the best music, arguably the best easter eggs/hidden items.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 1 November 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link
then ask a mod to change it! i'd do it myself but my influence is not nearly so leveled up as yours
― reckless woo (Z S), Friday, 1 November 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link
i've been playing ff6 lately actually. my first final fantasy. (i did almost beat super mario rpg: LEGEND OF THE SEVEN STARS as a kid tho.) some of the sprite art is really great; the characters are really emotive for how tiny and cramped they are. peanuts-esque use of space. i partic loved the part where you pick up the guy who just saw his entire city poisoned, and you flee through the forest and wind up on the train full of ghosts going to the underworld, and it feels cartoony and random and dumb until finally after you disembark the refugee sees all the people from his town, including his wife and kids, climbing numbly aboard the train, and chases after it as it pulls away, and ends up standing on the edge of the empty platform staring offscreen with his lil sprite head hung. i thought that was terrific. the opera scene i knew was coming so some of its impact was diluted but the wordless synthesized 16-bit singing kind of blew my mind.
idk if i can finish it tho. it just goes on and on.
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 2 November 2013 04:26 (ten years ago) link
yeah i was not a kid when i played that scene and got pretty emo about it
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 2 November 2013 04:31 (ten years ago) link
Didn't they re-release it recently?
Mario RPG. Man, I've NEVER played that. Always heard it was real good too!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 2 November 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
SMRPG is fantastic & fun
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Saturday, 2 November 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
But too easy. Still enjoyable.
My terrible shame is that I have NEVER beat FFVI!
― reckless woo (Z S), Saturday, 2 November 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link
^ i share in your shame! i was playing on an emu but w/o a controller and i couldn't do sabin's blitzes on the keyboard and i didnt want to kick him out of my party because i felt terrible abt it so i just quit altogether
― 乒乓, Saturday, 2 November 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
pro-tip: you can do the blitzes very very slowly
press & hold left keypress & hold down keyrelease left keypress & hold right keyrelease down keyetc. etc.
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Saturday, 2 November 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
fools, get a gamepad for your PC
― Nhex, Saturday, 2 November 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link
on the emulated PSX version on VITA you can substitute either adjacent direction for diagonals and it still works, not sure if this was ever true of the other versions
Like, with the one where you have to do a hadouken d,df,f motion you can actually just press d, f, f OR d, d, f and it still comes out
― random accies memories (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 2 November 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link
I have also not finished FF6 despite starting it twice
the deathtrain bit is definitely weirdly powerful, poor little guy all jumping up and down with an exclamation mark over his head because his family got sent to the underworld
― random accies memories (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 2 November 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link
Any particular version of VI I should look for? I played the SNES III back in the day, but if there is a recent re-release with a better translation that would be ideal.
Yeah, I got an Afterglow Xbox 360 controller and it is USB and plugs right in and works with pretty much any game except some of the early GTA's where it WILL NOT map the analog sticks to the camera so it is pretty much impossible to play. Plus there is a button that turns your room into a gamma radiation isolation chamber (via lighting up insanely strong green LEDs).
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 2 November 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
the original VI translation is great! loaded for bear, even! (because the translator took strange liberties)
sad 4 all of you who never got to the heavy melodramas of the second half
― Nhex, Saturday, 2 November 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link
Any particular version of VI I should look for?
GBA version has a better translation (although less quirky) but slightly worse music than the SNES. PS1 version crippled by load times iirc. There's iOS and Android versions coming "this winter".
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 2 November 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link
It's a stronger ask if someone else does it IMO
― the doleful cant of a bigot blinded by fear and hate (DJP), Saturday, 2 November 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
xp GBA will be slightly downgraded visually too because of the resolution. the music is so great, just go with emulated SNES. the speed up function will help you grind through battles too
― Nhex, Sunday, 3 November 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
Ok I'm going with the original SNES. Cos I bought it already anyways.
I beat VII. Kind of amazed at the ending. I guess the high-end CGI was pretty rad but really it was mostly end credits. I tried watching Advent Children and it was kinda cool (really amazing battle scenes animation) but too colorless and serious, really. I know VII was set in a post-apocalyptic wasteland (or, hell, I guess it was actually pre-apocalyptic?) but it still had lots of interesting places, colorful characters, etc. I guess magic levitating jesters and battle dolphins are just too goofy for SERIOUS CGI MOVIE.
I tried beating Emerald Weapon a few times. Had Knights of the Round, and two copies of Mime, and went and did that for a bit. Died multiple times. At this point yeah is this even fun anymore? Maybe this game's steely grip on my brain is over. 70 hours of play!
Gonna play VI now. I tried playing it yesterday but reorienting myself to 16-bit graphics is going to take some getting used to. The battle scenes are somewhat brutal without the spinning camera and character animations but whatevs.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 November 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link