Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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i wish yoshi's island acknowledged the ugly parts of american history

zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

definitely some robber-baron critique going on with wario

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 21:43 (thirteen years ago)

wario is a hurtful stereotype, probably. i'm not italian so

adam, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

an australian video game criticism article was more effective at making me interested in an american history thing/what that american history thing means than the game it's criticizing did. tbf i'm non-american... but still.

honestly though this is less about the acceptance of racism/sexism in games tho and more about BI not being very good at being a mature story or w/e

I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 02:43 (thirteen years ago)

I think you're right about that, tho the whole rickety crashing end to the story really is fun. Except for all the press f to trigger next cutscene approach

adam, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 03:01 (thirteen years ago)

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乒乓, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 03:02 (thirteen years ago)

honestly though this is less about the acceptance of racism/sexism in games tho and more about BI not being very good at being a mature story or w/e

― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:43 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark

the casual use of the history of oppressed peoples to make your video game have ~moral heft~ is probably the exact kind of casual racism that fits within the ambit of this thread

nb i havent played BI

乒乓, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 03:12 (thirteen years ago)

i meant that my comment was about above, not the conversation at large

I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 04:21 (thirteen years ago)

http://theyreallsobeautiful.com/interview-with-evan-narcisse/

乒乓, Sunday, 21 April 2013 13:34 (thirteen years ago)

THE HENRY
I am a: hairy Asian muscle panda

no idea an asian bear was a panda i mean yes i get it but seriously?

H-E-double-s1ockisticks (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 April 2013 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

that was new to me too

Nhex, Sunday, 21 April 2013 22:16 (thirteen years ago)

what do you have against it xp

乒乓, Sunday, 21 April 2013 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

just that it sounds like the kinda thing that would be racist if it was engendered outside the community? and it's not really clear that it was? like is a black bear a... well i dunno, a black bear?

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:12 (thirteen years ago)

this is outside my ambit but as far as im concerned a gay asian dude can call himself whatever hte fuck he wants

乒乓, Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

not arguing that fact, you asked what i had against it

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

what im asking is, what puts you in a position to judge?

乒乓, Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:22 (thirteen years ago)

hooboy, not going down that road with you dude. are you genuinely offended/surprised that i wrote "seriously?" on the internet at a first exposure to the idea of a gay asian subgroup called "pandas"?

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

the whole subgroup may just be THE HENRY for all i know o'course

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:58 (thirteen years ago)

seriously thought forks wrote endangered outside the community and thought he was taking this all way too literally

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.barefootcollege.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/wwf20logo.gif

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:07 (thirteen years ago)

hooboy, not going down that road with you dude. are you genuinely offended/surprised that i wrote "seriously?" on the internet at a first exposure to the idea of a gay asian subgroup called "pandas"?

― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:54 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm just wondering what made u decide to share ur opinion about this topic that u have a lot of experience with

乒乓, Monday, 22 April 2013 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

^solitary posts, etc
i decided to share my opinion precisely BECAUSE i have no experience with it and was hoping one of ilx's many all-purpose mavens would step up and let me know "yes this is a thing, here's some background *let me google that for you*" or alternately "i am a large gay asian man and ime this dude is on some ish that's just his own thing".
of course, this being ilx, i am being capn-save-a-panda'd

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:14 (thirteen years ago)

i'll take it that u acted in good faith, but u couldn't have phrased it in a better way??

乒乓, Monday, 22 April 2013 00:16 (thirteen years ago)

iirc i actually typed "are asian bears seriously called pandas?" and then realised that i was inviting a zing

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:18 (thirteen years ago)

what im asking is, what puts you in a position to judge?

― 乒乓, Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

uhh judging owns

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

stfu

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 22 April 2013 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

Actual pandas are not even bears, which makes this more confusing

Dr. Adorbius (mh), Monday, 22 April 2013 03:32 (thirteen years ago)

Red pandas, I mean. Which I think means they're communist

Dr. Adorbius (mh), Monday, 22 April 2013 03:33 (thirteen years ago)

Or native American.

how's life, Monday, 22 April 2013 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

who judges the judges?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 April 2013 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

the Supreme Court?

we're up all night to get picky (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 April 2013 14:55 (thirteen years ago)

reread thread, guess i can see where "Seriously?" could be read as a guffaw, hope it's clear twas not meant as such

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 April 2013 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

so there's some stupid fucking anime game (dragon's crown) (this is all i know about it) with big tittied ladies and people are mad about it, which is fine, and the penny arcade asshole weighs in:

It’s very weird to pull up a story about a game with frankly visionary art and hear why it shouldn’t exist, or to hear what I supposedly fantasize about, or what kind of power I supposedly revere, and any attempt to defend oneself from these psychotic projections or to assert that creators may create is evidence of a dark seed sprouting in the heart. It’s an incredible state of affairs. They’re not censors, though - oh, no no. You’ll understand it eventually; what you need to do is censor yourself.

i just... hate this guy. this like george will smugness. it enrages me.

adam, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

why am i even posting about penny arcade. we all know.

adam, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

did this go unmentioned at the time? just started playing saboteur. the free-with-purchase dlc adds... tits.

goole, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

afaict it adds no 'real' game content, but makes all the burlesque showgirls topless. jfc.

goole, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

yo is that game any good? i got it for like a dollar but haven't even booted it up

adam, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

concept, variety of activity, mission design (so far): good!
story, v/o, etc: average-to-poor. depends on your tolerance for one euro accent after another.
visuals, gameplay: average for 09, pretty dated now

goole, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

goole that is terrible but I can't stop laughing

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/12/03/the-saboteur-day-one-dlc-unlocks-nudity-self-loathing/

sorry, it also adds "new Parisian hiding spots, [and] a new minigame"

goole, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

there are lots of good reasons to hate oneself, but pixelated titties? eh

Nhex, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

are the new parisian hiding spots in breasts?

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

no, those are exposed

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

"dragon's crown" is pretty bad as far as the fantasy title stakes go

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

i keep trying to think of a similarly useless (fantasy noun + possessive marker + fantasy noun) name but they all end up making more sense. chimeara's sword. orc's ring. goblin's robes. wtf does a dragon even want a crown for. mb he is ruling over other dragons, nm, is there a kingdom of dragons in this game, that could rule

someone posted some of the concept art upthread but it's been occluded by the whole panda thing

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

i like vanillaware generally

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

http://media.tumblr.com/1218669e5e644575b5dbff208b25c78a/tumblr_inline_ml6n4roM0q1qz4rgp.gif

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

generally

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

i mean it looks like a fun game?

did they run this feature before or after guy put his foot in his mouth i wonder

http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/you-dont-like-breasts-you-must-like-men-the-disappointing-conversation-and

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

dont read the comments dont read the comments why do i always read the comments

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:58 (thirteen years ago)


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