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I need to get VC. Is it better on PC or on PS2?

How about GTA3?

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 17 November 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

if you were bored with LCS, don't get GTA3 - its' the same.

VC is graphically better on PC, to a small degree. But it's superb on PS2 anyway (runs better than San Andreas anyway). But again there's no swimming or climbing walls. The neon lighted graphics and music more than makes up for this, imho.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I'd mind about the loss of swimming and climbing in a game that's a few years old. It really hacks me off in a new game like LCS. That said it was designed for PSP but I thought they were meant to be pretty good.

What got me the day before yesterday was when I was cruising around for hidden packages how empty or inaccessible the majority of the landscape was. Pretty crap imo!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

the landscape in LCS is a lot more accessible/functional than in GTA3, and its the same map more or less. Because you get bikes in LCS, you can jump onto roofs etc for unique jumps and hidden package locations. not so in GTA3, most of the roofs have holes in - you find that out when you managed to glide the Dodo high enough.

Oh god that's it, now I'm off to Amazon to buy a PSP and Vice City Stories.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

You're a danger to yourself, Ste!

teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

i know, only gone and chuffin ordered tho haven't I.

wierd as well, i put a camera tripod in my amazon basket this morning, hesitated on clicking the submit button for some reason. Just checked it now and it's since gone down in price by almost twenty quid! that was lucky.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Stepaws!

I'll keep at it with a hangover on Sunday (only way to do these things). I got in a boat the last time I played and was gutted how badly they steered :(

It had machine guns though so that was fairly rad. Pity there was nothing to use them on though :(((

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 17 November 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

I used the weird wk chariot balcony quirk to fly a helicopter UNDER THE MAP in GTA:VC last night. Really, really,REALLY weird, & slightly disturbing to me seeing as I'm such a saddo for VC that it's almost like a real place to me. I flew a helicopter through one of the shipwrecks, even! So wrong!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 17 November 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I keep trying to do that (flying into the basement pool area of the mansion), but when I tried to go further ahead, I just popped out on the street, scaring the bejeezus out of a pedestrian.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 17 November 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

shit Pash I know what you mean totally. When someone showed me that ghost tower glitch it was completely earth shattering to me, it was like I was watching a *real* building vanish in front of my real eyes. Instead of just some lines of code on a circuit board :/

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 17 November 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, w/r/t the ghost tower, and worse still THE WHOLE EXTRA BIT OF LAND THAT VANISHES WHEN YOU CROSS THE 1/2WAY POINT I still look at that whenever I'm up in a helicopter, and I still get a slight wtf feeling of disorientation when I see it. I wonder if it's there in VCS?

I tried the swimming pool glitch, and the one where you go into the little apartment w/the bloodstained bathroom walls, and jump up on top of the bedside table, and cound't get them to work, the wk chariot (wk chariot, haha) one worked great, though. Fly the helicopter up to the front door, go vertically upwards into the little overhead awning thing, forward through the slot into the hotel itself (you can see the stairwell from that mission where you have to photograph congressman shrub, then drop down under the map. So weird.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 17 November 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

(plz to delete fucked up post, kingfish or g-kit, thx)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 17 November 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

cool i'll have to try that one

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 17 November 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

fixt.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 17 November 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

if you were bored with LCS, don't get GTA3 - its' the same.

I don't think I would agree with this. LCS bored me also, but GTA3 is my favorite of the 3.

The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 18 November 2006 06:58 (nineteen years ago)

Exploring the seabed north of the first island on Vice City, last night:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/ayrtrip06b011.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/ayrtrip06b004.jpg

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 18 November 2006 10:12 (nineteen years ago)

Do you like my submersible helicopter? Haha.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 18 November 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

The amazing thing about the second pic is that it actually does look somewhat like films I've seem made by scuba divers, the quality of the light, the surface of the sea as seen from beneath and so on.

The objects are not solid, and neither is the seabed, you can drop down through the seabed, and if you go down far enough the helicopter reappears in the carpark attached to the north point mall.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 18 November 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

OK, maybe it's not actually "amazing", more "mildly interesting, maybe".

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 18 November 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

Not bad for a location not even designed to be seen from the game in the first place.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 18 November 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
Finally getting in to Vice City. It's not as much fun as SA but it is still great just tearing around etc.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

I've been playing these again lately, as I'm getting bored with all my other games.

I've come to a slight halt in VCStories though, only because of the hardware. I have large hands and struggle playing any of the hand helds.

I've gone and cheated at finding one of the horseshoes in San Andreas. I'm so ashamed. Especially as it's somewhere where I've stood many times causing motorway accidents and watching the carnage. If I'd turned around I'd have found it.

If I start it all again from scratch can my pride be saved?

I've still got to 100% Liberty City Stories, on PS2 this time so controller is not a problem.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

mouse + kybd 4tw though

teh_kit never wins (g-kit), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

i tried playing gta3 on the pc but there's just little extra buttons on these games that the ps2 controller seems ideal for. even the xbox controller wasn't right for me.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like playing GTA:SA on the puter, but I've seen a controller in Game that's a near-exact copy of the PS2 controller, so maybe I'll buy it. But I'm not really that committed to playing on the computer just so's I can play Garth Vader on the radio and do the Hot Coffee thang.

It's Tough to Beat Illious (noodle vague), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

I've gone and cheated at finding one of the horseshoes in San Andreas. I'm so ashamed. Especially as it's somewhere where I've stood many times causing motorway accidents and watching the carnage. If I'd turned around I'd have found it.

Et tu, Ste? :(

If I start it all again from scratch can my pride be saved?

No but you were great for waiting so long! Which one was it in the end? Was it the very last one?

I don't like playing GTA:SA on the puter, but I've seen a controller in Game that's a near-exact copy of the PS2 controller, so maybe I'll buy it. But I'm not really that committed to playing on the computer just so's I can play Garth Vader on the radio and do the Hot Coffee thang.

I got the PS2 controller for PC and it was the best purchase ever! You can configure the buttons and there's auto-aim! BUY IT! The best part is for the sharp shooting you can switch to mouse which makes life easier x 10000000

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

No, I have one more to find - which i will not cheat at.

It was at the south end of the strip, carry on across the freeway up the small grass verge and its just there at the back of a small house.

so how far are you in VC ?

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Not at the point where I'm going to need walkthroughs :)

Nah, I've demolished a building, done a few missions for Diaz (incl. that fantastic helicopter one) and a couple of the phone calls. I'm finding the driving a bit harder in this one but switching to first person in the car works well.

I had to turn the radio off, the random thing was a real pain.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

is that the helicopter one where you're shooting the guys in the gang den, while Lance flies the chopper?

lol i'm gobsmacked that you've turned the radio off, I found it far better than the San Andreas one.

i've lost count how many times i've replayed vice city, a blimmin lot. and GTA3, i remember once i loaded that sucker up on a saturday afternoon and finished it sunday evening.

god, wait till you have to do 'driver', there's a knack to it but if you don't know what it is the mission is a bloody nightmare.

i think my favourite missions were,
voodoo woman, the remote control planes dropping bombs
phil, right at the end of the game. stealing back the guns from the Walton vans and then having all those motorbike thugs chase you.
Sir, Yes sir. stealing the tank. so many ways to do this one.
the taxi one where you have to fight several over cabs and then finally the zebra striped one.
the sanchez mission in the stadium, the kickstart type one.
shooting all the shop windows in the mall
killing the jury people (telephone mission)
chasing the dude in the golf caddy
messin with the man, having to cause all that destruction
rescuing lance from the scrapyard
dropping the flyers from the seaplane

fuckit i loved them all!

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

is that the helicopter one where you're shooting the guys in the gang den, while Lance flies the chopper?

Indeed!

Spoiler city above! Had to stop reading after first line. Soon I will be able to read them all, soon!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

oops, sorry :)

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

the gun you use on that chopper mission is awesome too. once i got 100% and obtained my infinite ammo i spent many a while standing in the shop doorway of the chemist on the main road of the second island, picking up an adrenalin pill, then using first person aim to just take out every sod who went past - in car or on foot.

Once you stay in aim mode and keep your finger on the aim button the adrenalin pill NEVER wears off. a small bug thats pleasant to abuse, on ps2 anyway.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Now THAT is worth knowing about! Cheers.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Gotta ask: why do you guys avoid walkthroughs when trawling for horseshoes, oysters, gang tags, etc.? I understand for regular missions, but looking for hidden stuff = massive pain to me.

c(,,c) (Leee), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm with you. I printed out their locations and just did them one by one.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

What really sucks is when you use the map and still only get 99.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

Because to me they're still part of the game. Getting all of the items in San Andreas rewards you with weapons and so if you've done this before you've finished the game you've kinda improved your chances at the main game.

I know I didn't collect mine until after, but still, it's a habit picked up from the previous games where you got rewards for every 'ten' or so items found.

Besides I like the exploring part anyway, I just felt that I'd explored enough of Las Venturos and was actually beginning to think that a bug had eaten my last couple of horseshoes. thats why i cheated.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

uh huh

sunny successor agrees: gay dad always trumps slutty mom (katharine), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I for one salute Ste for holding out this long!

I use 'em because a) I likes getting shiny weapons b) I wouldn't have the patience to explore everywhere.

For the first time I think I'll do a gather before the missions and give myself the abovementioned edge! I'll see though, it would be a real pity to turn the game into a chore...

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 8 February 2007 09:08 (nineteen years ago)

It's nice to have the Cougar gun available, you don't need all 100 items for that.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 8 February 2007 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

sorry I meant the Python

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 8 February 2007 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

Does it autoaim?

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 8 February 2007 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

yes, and its one shot kills too.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 8 February 2007 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

I want this more than anything now. Except the minigun, the bullet trails are so cool!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 8 February 2007 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

I just accidentally bought the safe house with the helicopter! Now to find the others!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 8 February 2007 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

thats a good place to buy, you get your hidden object rewards there too

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, that all seems a bit random (the hidden packages thing). Also my vest appeared at one of my Ocean Beach props but I can't find it!

I bought a python last night. I love it. Also MP5, glad to have that bad boy back!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 9 February 2007 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

the vest should be upstairs in the corridor

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 9 February 2007 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

That would make sense. Tell me, can I only get the assets after completing the "Shake Down" Mission? I've purchased the other safe houses (it was a long night last night!).

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 9 February 2007 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

which one was Shake Down?

if i recall you purchase assets after you've reclaimed the mansion on Starfish island and completed the 3 missions after that which lie around the mansion property.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 9 February 2007 10:20 (nineteen years ago)


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