Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

the link to the osx one doesn't work!

bleurgh. this is exactly what i DON'T want from mgs. i.e. less fantasy, more military, less aloneness..

http://wire.ggl.com/2007/08/24/mgs4-the-beauties-are-beasts/

I was watching this the other day when I realized I had just reached the point where I didn't want to hear or watch one more thing about this game before I get to actually play it. It's the game I'm most anticipating right now, but I want some surprises left.

yeah, i've avoided all info on the game so far, really. i think the last thing i watched was that trailer from like a year ago, where a little robot with otakon's voice shows up or something.

Longish Eurogamer preview of MGO...
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=93022

Apparently June 12th, 2008!

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/855/855057p1.html

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/855/855057/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots--20080226051222749.jpg

Sweet Christmas, I just got a boner.

This makes me more excited than ever to get my hands on this game.

MGS4 Hands On

You might not want to read though!

MGO Beta footage on the loose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4k8iBDKVjg
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x57eht_mgo-la-catapulte-a-3-ahhhhhhhhhhhh_videogames
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/mgo/video/x57d7q_metal-gear-online-ingame_videogames

I can't think of a single thing worse that a multiplayer MGS

I'm honestly surprised about the appetite for this

haha those videos make it look as awful as I expected!

what d'you reckon, jeff, you interested?

I'm extremely skeptical. I do want to try out the man catapult though :)

I don't think it looks terrible... it looks a lot like Rainbow 6 / Graw with a sense of humor, but maybe a little more fussy in the control department (which probably isn't a good thing for a multiplayer game).

The guy in the youtube video is too stonered to narrate.
"This game is crazy, I didn't know it would be like this. like, I thought it would be like, you know, fun - and fun-NY."

I enjoyed this video where that dude tries out all his webcam settings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ojAIWNt4ms

good god, this thread is 2.5 years old.

The new multiplayer mode, where one player is snake and the rest are militia charged with hunting him down seems rather promising.

New theatrical trailer

Wow.

Writers of the UK magazine PSW have played the full game (their review can be found in the latest issue, which hit newstands today) and soon told their mates CVG that Metal Gear Solid 4 includes cut-scenes that approach the 90-minute mark. That's not a total, that's the length of at least one of the cutscenes, individually.

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/05/23/mgs4-features-90-minute-cutscenes-4-6gb-installation/

holy shit

does anyone actually want to sit through a 90 minute cut scene? 9 minutes would be too much for me.

I'm guessing that length includes radio communication. still ridiculous though.

somehow I can't believe that, although i can't access that article at work.

perhaps they said 19 ? and someone misheard? Still, long.

ugh

no. fuckin. way.

as a cut-scene hater, this dismays me.

I read somewhere that the ending cutscene is the one that's more than an hour long. The rest are what you'd expect Metal Gear wise.

The 90 minute cut scene thing has to be an exaggeration / mistake blown out of proportion thanks to the internet. If not - WOW! Maybe they meant that like in the last game you can unlock and watch the cut scenes after beating the game in several 90 minute chunks or something?

I truly wouldn't be surprised if it were 90 minutes including radio sequences. The end of MGS2 was like an hour with about 1 minute of play, maybe.

A 9.9 from IGN

if only i had time for this

I hear it requires 4.6Gb of your hard drive space too? That's a pretty meaty chunk for anyone who only has 20Gb to start with.

that's one reason I can't play new videogames ... they're waaayyyyyyyy too involved now. It's like you have to dedicate your life to these things. Just let me jump in and kill some shit while I'm waiting for my Boboli pizza to cook.

JimD - a lot of ps3 games require installs of about that size (about one-third to half of them?). I guess it's mainly to speed up loading because the blu-ray drive spins pretty slow. It is sort of a problem. I have a sixty gig drive and this will be the fifth or sixth game I've had to install on there - eventually I'll have to start deleting installs to play a new game - which is a drag because then if you want to play an old game again you're going to have to wait 20-30 minutes to re-install it. On the other hand, you can use any hard drive with your ps3 - so if it really bugs, you can always go buy a new 500 gig or whatever harddrive and never have to worry about space again (just like with any home computer).

Burt - there are plenty of just jump in and kill things games out new today too - c'mon. There has always been long involved video games (well, since the late 1980s) and shorter experience too.

Anyway, I'm glad I'm heading out of town for a while and am not sitting around here getting over-hyped for this game like I did with GTA IV. And I'll have something to look forward to returning home - finally getting to play this thing (and getting to watch those 90 minute cut scenes, I guess)

lol

Uh oh, the Gekkou have started to move!

The new controls are taking a bit of getting used to but this is incredible.

So excited about this. Tonight!

Have finished the first section. So much of the game is cut-scenes, it's sort of more of a tv mini-series than a game, but the cut-scenes are usually pretty impressive. So far I don't mind that over half the time I'm playing I don't need to even hold the controller, but I do hear that the second half of the game becomes even more cut-scene heavy, which I guess does worry me a bit... mostly because I do like the actual game play so far. Sneaking works pretty good - shooting is fine & switching in and out of first person works well. The graphics are really nice.

lovin this so far. i can't tell if hideo kojima is the most brilliant man alive or just insane and drunk on his own power.

one of the mgs4 reviews i read said he has collected every pokemon in every pokemon game.

i can't tell if hideo kojima is the most brilliant man alive or just insane and drunk on his own power.

So far I don't mind that over half the time I'm playing I don't need to even hold the controller

what?! i'm no hater of story and cut-scenes in games, but that's inexcusable.

There is no doubt it's an incredible game but even the most die hard MGS fan would have to admit some of the cutscenes are a bit much. I've never minded the cutscenes in Metal Gear games but if you're going to have long cutscenes then the balance with the gameplay needs to be right.

The opening was incredible, Otacon got mad at me for trying to take on the Gekko, lol. I did the hold up and crotch grab on one of the super female soldiers then she CQC'd my ass. The little Snatcher bot is awesome.

how is tha vaunted non-linearness of it?

Somebody tried sharing a load of MGS4 spoilers with me today, but I'm so unaware of the backstory that none of them even made sense to me.

just beat this.
wowee that ending was long. good though.

i spoiled the ending for myself, since there's no way i''ll get a chance to play this anytime soon.

liked the ending, it wraps everything up pretty nicely. in a metal gear sorta way.

i really want to play the game now.

just beat this.
wowee that ending was long. good though.

-- Creeztophair, Thursday, 19 June 2008 03:32 (16 hours ago) Link

Was the last cut scene really 90 minutes??

oh yeah wtf is with the game installing in between chapters? the first time that happened i thought my PS3 was losing its mind

suddenly the difficulty has skyrocketed. i made it through most of act 4 with no problem, took out the Sniper Wolf robot, was enjoying the constant nostalgia and Otacon saying awestruck things about the first MGS, literally saying "You are the shit", etc.

now i am in the split screen duel. on the right half Raiden is in a fight with Vamp and on the left i am stuck in a little spot of ground in front of the Metal Gear and charged with killing endless waves of gekkos. now this is bullshit and not fun. i have heat seeking rocket launchers and a rail gun, i can call up Drebben in the middle of a fight and buy ammo as much as i want, but no matter what i keep dying. inevitably there is a gekko that jumps next to me, count down to self destruction, and explodes, killing me in the process. even if i have rations equipped, i still die. any tips for this part?

ok some quick googling told me to charge the rail gun. will try that...

https://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/02/28/the-story-behind-metal-gear-solid-4-39-s-bizarre-intro.aspx

this is pretty awesome read talking about the making of the intro live action segments.

also i watched the Superbunnyhop review last night. i LOL'd at him pointing out that this game has the main villains

a) shutting down all guns, resulting in the first total global ceasefire
b) curing cancer with nanomachines

it is hilarious that halfway through the game the main bad guy has inadvertently caused world peace.

Man, do I ever not remember any of this nonsense, which almost makes me question if I ever even played 4 (which I did, because old Snake, and Johnny Diarrhea).

i finished this game today. the end of the game is like 3 hours of cutscenes w some gameplay just tossed in. really once you get through Shadow Moses the game goes entirely linear, to the point where you are just holding forward for a good while.

it's a shame cos the gameplay during the start is a nice evolution of MGS3-style but by halfway through there is nothing stealthy about it. the last few hours you shoot like a million bullets. often there will be a room but of badguys and you just fight them over and over until the game just steps in and takes the control away from you.

still, it's pretty enjoyable. definitely worth a watch a least once. it really feels like the sequel to MGS everyone wanted from MGS2. the ending is super melodramatic. i like how during the very last bonus audio Snake calls himself a "blue rose", Kojima w the FWWM reference.

shoot i didn't have this thread bookmarked, v happy to read all of your posts on here adam! so many things i love abt this game, thought i talked abt it around here somewhere, maybe on one of the other mgs threads. the gear vs gear 5-minute combat remains one of my most favourite video game things ever because it's just such an absurd waste of development money for something that is completely unused at any ohter point. not even in a dumb dlc rush mode or something.

i loved that bit. all the MGS games have a OTT action setpiece, usually near the end of the game, where it just goes crazy. MGS2 had that bit at the end of the postmodern part where you just fight 2 dozen enemies in room after room that is also completely at odds with the rest of the game, where you stealth your way past a dozen enemies spread out over the entire game map. it is part and parcel with the cutscenes, the interactive cinematic stylisms that are the bread and butter of the series.

was kind of surprised that half the game was just a recreation of MGS, tho i guess that IS what the fans wanted, the expectation subverted by MGS2. the happy endings were all pretty nice, Big Boss as always pulling a fast one on everybody, Raiden waking up to have his life also revealed as a life and bestowing a suburban fairy tale ending on the ultimate tortured edgelord emo robot ninja of all time.

i liked how at one point they are all stuck and Johnny is the only one that can help them, and it turns out that him having diarrhea and being a general weirdo meant that he refused the nanomachines treatment, so he is free to save the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWqlz0wsQQ4

Raiden's speech starting around 3:00 in is so classic. "I'm a shadow, one that no light will shine on". you could open a Hot Topic just selling t-shirts with every line that he says here.

"It was never going to work out for me. It even rained the day I was born."

"I have nothing. I have always been alone. Always."

i think it would rank near the bottom for me though, i like playing 2/3/V way more, i like the stories in those games more as well. still a lot of fun and worth seeing at least once.

https://www.polygon.com/news/475091/metal-gear-solid-3-eva-voice-actor-revealed