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"Chicago would be grate if they set it in the 30s with bootleggers, gangsters, and G-men on the take!"

NO THAT WOULD SUCK

― INSANE CLOWN FOSSE (Adrian Langston), Saturday, 13 May 2006 00:22 (twenty years ago)

look. i just want to shoot people.

― sunny successor (katharine), Saturday, 13 May 2006 13:33 (twenty years ago)

to the sounds of the allman brothers

― sunny successor (katharine), Saturday, 13 May 2006 13:34 (twenty years ago)

wtf

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:16 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

I've been playing Vice City a bit, the computer I have SA on has some issues w/overheating & shutting down. I was playing GTA:Vice City on another computer last night - I was driving a car over the bridge by the golf course in the direction of the 2nd island, and I noticed the "ghost tower". I'd read about this somewhere, it's a remnant from an earlier prototype version of the game, that still shows up. The airport originally was larger apparently, and that odd little curved runway that just seems to end in a backlot originally extended out across where the military base was. If you go to the place behind the sunshine autos showroom, there's a map of the 2 islands as they must have been originally designed - a lump of beach missing in the north-east, and the stadium missing in the north-west, but the area just north of the airport/military base a fair bit larger.

If you look across from many places on the east island to the west island you can clearly see the ghost tower on the skyline - a largish skyscraper with a big thick aerial sticking up from the top of it. Drive across a bridge, or take a boat towards the west island, and after you get to the crossover point where it briefly displays the "welcome to vice city" then the tower vanishes. I presume there are 2 files, one for each island, with the other island just as background images. The blue and yellow "welcome to Vice City" screens are presumably to cover the files getting swapped over? I guess the background image file for the first island didn't get updated when they changed the 2nd island map. Weirdest of all was taking a helicopter up and flying between the 2 islands - position the helicopter correctly, and you can see the tower, as well as the original map layout, blurred in the distance. As you approach the shore of the 2nd island, everything starts to pull into focus a little more, the palm trees next to the dual carriagewar appear, then you hit the load screen, and suddenly the tower, and a big lump of land just vanishes.

I got a really odd and strong feeling of dislocation doing this, and I went back and did it several times. I guess some of these game locations must exist as real places somewhere in your mind, and to see something just change like that does your head in in some way. Weird shit, eh.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 09:35 (nineteen years ago)

here it is!

http://www.affekong.de/html/vicecity/files/screens/ghosttower01.jpg

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

cor! i've never heard of this, i'll check it out when i get home.

(does it work on ps2?)

― Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

yes it's there! that is a bit spooky, especially when you do the helicopter thing

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 29 June 2006 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

Cool

― def zep (calstars), Thursday, 29 June 2006 11:14 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone else hear that the next GTA will be coming out for the XBox?

― def zep (calstars), Friday, 30 June 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Well, they all have been since GTA3. I think it's just that it's coming out at the same time on 360/PS3.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 30 June 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

gta q: do the drugs (pill icons) serve any purpose other than making us say 'hahaha everything is slow! hes high!!'?

― sunny successor (katharine), Sunday, 9 July 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, the drugs slow the world down more than they slow you down, so they can be quite useful for speeding up your reflexes in a fight.

― The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 10 July 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

i think they're mostly useful for sniping, there's a mission in vice city where you have to snipe a ruck of gang members quickly. A pill is right near where you position for sniping, handily.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

the helicopter mission? where you fly out to the island with lance vance and he does the umm lance vance dance? or was that the boat? the helicopter/island mission is what stops me from going back to vice city despite the sweet ass soundtrack. who knew it would be so fun to kill random people to the sounds of 'steppin' out'?

― sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

No, he means that mission you do for the Voodoo lady voiced by Madame Cleo or whatever her name was. Two gangs are fighting, and you have to snipe the guys from one of the gangs.

― The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

Yellow kid is correct

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 07:24 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

I've gone from San Andreas to GTA3 to Liberty City and now I'm finally getting started on Vice City. This time, I'm aiming for 100% completion and relying on a Walk-through. It seems like that wouldn't be the fun way to go about it, but it's kinda neat, like going on a prescribed diet. The weird part is that I'm supposed to avoid the missions until I'm done with all the hidden packages, taxi rides, etc. I drive past that lawyer's office every once in awhile. That guy's gotta be getting pissed by now that I haven't showed back up since the drug heist.

One funny part of the walkthrough was in the list of hidden packages I can get right now on the east island. I saw on the map that there was one near the parking deck with the corkscrew ramp. I got a motorcycle up there, ramped off across the street, landed on the building on the other side ... got the package. I look at the list and it says something like "(42.) Don't worry about this one. It's too hard to get right now."

HA. SHOWED YOU, GAMER!

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

The walkthrough let me down. Apparently, there's a rampage in Vice City somewhere that DISAPPEARS if you don't complete it in one try. I get to the last rampage in my walkthrough and my stats say "34 of 35". Now, I'll never get 100%.

Gah.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

surely an intermittent problem, no way did i complete all the rampages first try and i have 100%

this doesn't help you though. thats a real bummer. :(

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

I had to go through about seven pages deep into a Google search before I found dudes on messageboards saying "Better get that one by the hotel done in one try or you're fUKKed lol."

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

is this on PC or PS2, or xbox?

― Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

PS2. They say it's the rampage at the other corner of the hotel where you find the PCJ to do the motorcycle challenge, at the end of the Ocean Beach strip.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 05:57 (nineteen years ago)

is that the flamethrower or molotov one? i think I know what you're talking about luckily I read abt it before hand. don't sweat it tho, all you get for 100% is a t-shirt. seriously.

― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 06:57 (nineteen years ago)

and infinite ammo, and +50 to health and armour, and the ability to hire goons that follow you around (but they are useless tbh), and double car health.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

i know which rampage you mean, its a shotgun one. i think its rather easy as well, maybe i did complete it first time !?

― Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's just around the building, on the south east corner that the PCJ is on south west corner of, in some bushes.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

ehy what do you need all the ammo and cash and health for when youve already done everything? am i missing something?

― sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

some people, like my good self, carried on playing/driving/killing etc way way *way* after 100% mark. It's just too much fun.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone buying Vice City Stories? Unfortunately it looks like it's getting some so-so reviews.

― antexit (antexit), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

Got a link? If the price for the eventual PS2 release is as cheap as Liberty City Stories, I'll buy it.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/psp/grandtheftautovicecitystories

But don't be fooled by the number; all the reviews talk mostly about how frustrating the problems with it are, but then say "but it's still GTA and it's still amazing so thumbs up."

And it's not coming out on PS2, sorry! However, you can swim in it, which is a Vice City dream come true.

― antexit (antexit), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

How is it not coming out on PS2?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

They said the same thing about LCS and look what happened.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 00:37 (nineteen years ago)

anyone else not get that link to work.

i'm hoping it will be out for ps2 yes, i'm sure it will eventually.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

I still haven't finished LCS. Got quite near the end and then just got bored in a way. So much *empty* space compared to SA. Unfair, I know!

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

The hidden packages were fun to find, lots of bike jumping needed to areas i'd never been to in GTA3.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Anyone playing Vice City Stories?

Am enjoying it, but it seems glitchy - have had problems with enemies getting absorbed by buildings (and surviving, and therefore becoming very difficult indeed to shoot), and defending your businesses when they are under attack from rival gangs is extreme glitchy, with gang members either driving away to the other side of Vice City before returning to attack the business - but you aren't allowed to chase after them, you just have to stand there and wait for them to return. and when they do, further multiple gang members will just start materialising in the foreground.

the rest of the game is pretty good, some missions are compellingly tricky, the soundtrack is aces - but these glitches give the game a rushed, cheap feel.

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 16 November 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds good. Finished missions in Liberty City Stories. I thought the game itself was fairly boring. I can't be arsed getting to 100% in this one, there's nothing to absorb like SA. The whole not being able to climb walls thing and lack of swimming really pisses me off!

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 17 November 2006 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i have to really mind-shift my focus for LCS, and pretend that I'm playing a direct add-on to GTA3 released back then, instead of a game only a year old.

i'm tempted to get a PSP and VCS, due to my love affair with Vice City originally.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 17 November 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

I need to get VC. Is it better on PC or on PS2?

How about GTA3?

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 17 November 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

if you were bored with LCS, don't get GTA3 - its' the same.

VC is graphically better on PC, to a small degree. But it's superb on PS2 anyway (runs better than San Andreas anyway). But again there's no swimming or climbing walls. The neon lighted graphics and music more than makes up for this, imho.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I'd mind about the loss of swimming and climbing in a game that's a few years old. It really hacks me off in a new game like LCS. That said it was designed for PSP but I thought they were meant to be pretty good.

What got me the day before yesterday was when I was cruising around for hidden packages how empty or inaccessible the majority of the landscape was. Pretty crap imo!

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

the landscape in LCS is a lot more accessible/functional than in GTA3, and its the same map more or less. Because you get bikes in LCS, you can jump onto roofs etc for unique jumps and hidden package locations. not so in GTA3, most of the roofs have holes in - you find that out when you managed to glide the Dodo high enough.

Oh god that's it, now I'm off to Amazon to buy a PSP and Vice City Stories.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

You're a danger to yourself, Ste!

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

i know, only gone and chuffin ordered tho haven't I.

wierd as well, i put a camera tripod in my amazon basket this morning, hesitated on clicking the submit button for some reason. Just checked it now and it's since gone down in price by almost twenty quid! that was lucky.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Stepaws!

I'll keep at it with a hangover on Sunday (only way to do these things). I got in a boat the last time I played and was gutted how badly they steered :(

It had machine guns though so that was fairly rad. Pity there was nothing to use them on though :(((

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 17 November 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

I used the weird wk chariot balcony quirk to fly a helicopter UNDER THE MAP in GTA:VC last night. Really, really,REALLY weird, & slightly disturbing to me seeing as I'm such a saddo for VC that it's almost like a real place to me. I flew a helicopter through one of the shipwrecks, even! So wrong!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 17 November 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I keep trying to do that (flying into the basement pool area of the mansion), but when I tried to go further ahead, I just popped out on the street, scaring the bejeezus out of a pedestrian.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 17 November 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

shit Pash I know what you mean totally. When someone showed me that ghost tower glitch it was completely earth shattering to me, it was like I was watching a *real* building vanish in front of my real eyes. Instead of just some lines of code on a circuit board :/

― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 17 November 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

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