until they develop a technology that gives you peripheral vision, "1st person perspective" is predicated on the protagonist having some kind of sight disorder.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 11 November 2011 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
How much harder would this game be to play in 3pp? I remember thinking that 3pp looked wonky in Oblivion.
― polyphonic, Friday, 11 November 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
it was hilariously bad, but apparently decent in skyrim
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 11 November 2011 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
doing realist-ish melee combat is probably best done w/ a locked 3rd kind of POV like gears of war. you need to be able to be aware of what the whole body of your character is doing, especially if there's a defense mechanic
plus peripheral vision, yeah
― goole, Friday, 11 November 2011 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
plus half the fun of rpgs is cool gear, why not see it?
― goole, Friday, 11 November 2011 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
Don't attack when he is black.
cosign this tho
hahahaaaa
― Princess Nancy (jjjusten), Friday, 11 November 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
I was reading lorax's post above on zing and there were multiple paragraphs before I saw who wrote it but I instantly knew it was lorax <3
― Mordy, Friday, 11 November 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
Roberto Spiralli otm. strip everything away from a first person shooter, and it is chasing an object with a reticle and clicking the mouse button furiously when they overlap. But at least in a shooter you get to enjoy the illusion of the projectile going toward the target, leading the target based on the speed of the projectile, etc. With melee you don't even get to see much of your character's body moving, and there's no sense of depth or physics. So it's like some guy who has no depth perception fighting with a cardboard box on his head. The real thing that kills me about FPS games is how much it limits your movement. I want to play a multiplayer map with a Just Cause, Prototype, or InFamous type game.
― rockapads, Friday, 11 November 2011 00:57 (twelve years ago) link
Grand theft auto 4 multiplayer is this^
― Princess Nancy (jjjusten), Friday, 11 November 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't actually tried that. No word of mouth of it being fun from any of my friends, either. Any good?
― rockapads, Friday, 11 November 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
the gametypes were p uninvolving and hence nobody plays it iirc
― goole, Friday, 11 November 2011 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
would love a city-wide capture the flag mode for Just Cause 2
― rockapads, Friday, 11 November 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
The idea of a never ending adventure sandbox is simultaneously enthralling and terrifying.
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 November 2011 06:01 (twelve years ago) link
I have a friend who says he wants to be put on life support and play Skyrim forever
― rockapads, Friday, 11 November 2011 06:08 (twelve years ago) link
okfor no reason at all i feel like i might justify buying this tomorrow. despite not liking oblivion at all.hmmm
― Princess Nancy (jjjusten), Friday, 11 November 2011 06:39 (twelve years ago) link
i'm in the oblivion-sucked camp but the something awful people (who are the whiniest bitchiest gamers on the internet) seem to be having a good time. my pre-order should arrive before i get home from work tonight.
i think arena, the first elder scrolls game, could be remade into something awesome. as i remember one could wander across the entire continent of tamriel. the landscape and most towns and settlements were randomly generated and really repetitive but the vastness was fucking nuts, especially in 1994. a remake with decent graphics and 21st century complexity, like a minecraft that doesn't look like a bag of assholes mixed with all this procedural quest-generation stuff mixed with the fact that arena was SUPER FUCKING HARD, would be killer. i was 13 with all the hyperfocus a 13 year old can bring to a video game and i often got killed during the quasi-tutorial dungeon. shit was real.
― adam, Friday, 11 November 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
and by oblivion sucked i mean i still put like 100 hours into it.
― adam, Friday, 11 November 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
took the day off and will be running down the stairs at regular intervals to see if the game is amazonged to my front door yet
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 November 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
last exercise for a while i assume
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 11 November 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
would answer that zing but am out of breath
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
i think arena, the first elder scrolls game, could be remade into something awesome
remake daggerfall imho. same scope but such a better game and story.
― Mordy, Friday, 11 November 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/11/11/in-skyrim-bucket-head-the-perfect-crime.aspx
― this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
LOL
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 11 November 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
perusing wikia, the character system looks... intersting
no attributes? perks?
― goole, Friday, 11 November 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
buckets on heads was indeed the dumbest/best thing I've seen today
― Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 11 November 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
the design of this seems kinda modern fallouty, which is part of why my interest is growing quickly
― Princess Nancy (jjjusten), Friday, 11 November 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha buckethead!
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 November 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
pc version is crashing occasionally on looting gold. still pretty fun though. plays like a more polished version of oblivion.
my thief is named 'shank badu'.
― ain't nothing nice (bnw), Friday, 11 November 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
I can see your crashes on Steam.
― Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 11 November 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
ditto
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 November 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
Just bought this! Also my first elder scrolls game.
― double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Friday, 11 November 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
Wondering whether I should install this to my xbox to reduce load times. Have you guys heard anything wrt that?
― Mordy, Friday, 11 November 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
rumours of textures not displaying properly when installed on 360 - don't know for sure tho
― zappi, Friday, 11 November 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
ok well confirmed, patch incoming
"Skyrim uses a lot of dynamic streaming systems, including textures. We've seen a few reports of certain textures temporarily scaling down on the Xbox 360, and not scaling back up. We have verified that this issue does not occur when playing off the disk and when the game is fully cached (not installed). Skyrim makes heavy use of the Xbox 360 caching system, and caches over the normal course of play while in menus or interiors. This cache can be wiped when other games are played or when the user manually removes it. We're working on a solution in the next title update for those who have installed the game."
― zappi, Friday, 11 November 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
goddammit ups i am very busy and need you to deliver this now so i can start wasting time
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 November 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
you can see my crashes? you mean sudden log off/log on?
― ain't nothing nice (bnw), Friday, 11 November 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
yup
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 November 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
How do you design AI to avoid that bucket trick? I guess you could give NPCs a desire to see a given patch of space? And have them move / move objects to make that happen?
― lukas, Friday, 11 November 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
Just purchased. Can't wait to get home and play.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 11 November 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
just mark "putting bucket on my head" as a threatening action, like stealing apparently is for non-bucketheads.
― this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
idk if npc's have a sense of touch. they do if you bump into them maybe, plenty of games have that. it's an interesting design problem. shopkeepers should probably have an 'ideal layout' of their space in mind, if something changes w/o being paid they should get suspicious.
i always liked how you could walk up their private stairs to the apartments and it would be nbd unless they found you up there personally, maybe not even then.
― goole, Friday, 11 November 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
put eyeholes in every in-game bucket
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
elder scrolls has that dumb "glass" material, make buckets out of that
― goole, Friday, 11 November 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
trying very hard to make a character that doesn't look hideous. failing so far.
― Mordy, Friday, 11 November 2011 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
anyone been able to lower the drawbridge in the embershard mine? i even cheated and looked at a guide, and it's just like "use the switch to lower the drawbridge". but i...can't...find...the....switch...
― double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
NEVERMIND
*turns brightness up on display*
― double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
Loving this so far. Perhaps even more than Dark Souls.
― polyphonic, Saturday, 12 November 2011 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
i'm loving it too, although i'm a completely overwhelmed with sidequests already! no surprise, i guess, based off of everything i've ever heard about elder scrolls games.
one nitpick: it's a little annoying to not know how much a spell costs (in magika or whatever) before you buy the spell book. for example, i purchased the stoneflesh spell (increases armor), but when i tried to cast it found out that i don't have enough magika to use it, even at max levels.
d'oh!
― double whooooaaaaa! (Z S), Saturday, 12 November 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link
lol, just hit my first freeze. bethasda, never change.
― Mordy, Saturday, 12 November 2011 03:08 (twelve years ago) link